Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"

2013-09-19 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 18 Sep 2013, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: [snip] > > So, if you want to try them (you said you have time, right? ;) ) > start with an easy one like i3, and if and when you will like the > idea behind, feel free to try more advanced ones. > [snip] I like i3 a lot but I don't like th

Re: Thank you - was [Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"]

2013-09-18 Thread Richard Owlett
*CAVEAT LECTOR* - long winded humor included in following Ralf Mardorf wrote: I recommend to stay with Debian and to stay for Debian with the Linux kernel and what ever boot loader you're using now. Test WMs and DEs, win experiences and in the future you still can decide to use FreeBSD, another

Re: Thank you - was [Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"]

2013-09-18 Thread berenger . morel
Le 18.09.2013 22:28, Richard Owlett a écrit : berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: [*SNIP*] I guess this is why Debian meet my needs: you can tinker things easily, and so learn a lot even if you have poor starting knowledge. But do not worry, it seem that on that list, everyone is still learni

Re: Thank you - was [Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"]

2013-09-18 Thread Richard Owlett
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: [*SNIP*] I guess this is why Debian meet my needs: you can tinker things easily, and so learn a lot even if you have poor starting knowledge. But do not worry, it seem that on that list, everyone is still learning things regularly. That "tinkering" is gener

Re: Thank you - was [Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"]

2013-09-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I recommend to stay with Debian and to stay for Debian with the Linux kernel and what ever boot loader you're using now. Test WMs and DEs, win experiences and in the future you still can decide to use FreeBSD, another Linux distro and/or other bootloaders. I prefer Linux over FreeBSD, but have bot

Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"

2013-09-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
me, lxde, kde, and xfce. I > >>>>> did some > >>>>> test runs of each. I chose xfce for my initial Wheezy > >>>>> install based > >>>>> almost exclusively on "look and feel". It felt "comfortable" > >

Re: Thank you - was [Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"]

2013-09-18 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:20:02 +0200 Richard Owlett wrote: > What's the best? I still don't know. Mr. Owlett, I would just like to add to the usual suggestions since you're interested in tinkering with Debian, a worthy hobby to be sure, that no one has suggested the now forgotten UDE with the i

Re: Thank you - was [Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"]

2013-09-18 Thread berenger . morel
Le 18.09.2013 13:31, Richard Owlett a écrit : Richard Owlett wrote: /Background [snip] /Questions 1. Given that I prefer LILO over GRUB and xfce over Gnome/lxde/kde, what GUIs should I investigate further. 2. Given that internet is effectively non-existent and internal/external disk space is

Thank you - was [Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"]

2013-09-18 Thread Richard Owlett
Richard Owlett wrote: /Background [snip] /Questions 1. Given that I prefer LILO over GRUB and xfce over Gnome/lxde/kde, what GUIs should I investigate further. 2. Given that internet is effectively non-existent and internal/external disk space is effectively unlimited, how can I make as many as

Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"

2013-09-18 Thread Richard Owlett
f how a GUI should 'act'. It was an educational experience. Each had something I'd like to see in an ideal installation. I also did more web browsing comparing "Desktop Environments" to "Windows Managers" and product comparisons within those classifications. /Ques

Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"

2013-09-18 Thread berenger . morel
7;. It was an educational experience. Each had something I'd like to see in an ideal installation. I also did more web browsing comparing "Desktop Environments" to "Windows Managers" and product comparisons within those classifications. /Questions 1. Given that I p

Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"

2013-09-18 Thread berenger . morel
mething I'd like to see in an ideal installation. I also did more web browsing comparing "Desktop Environments" to "Windows Managers" and product comparisons within those classifications. /Questions 1. Given that I prefer LILO over GRUB and xfce over Gnome/lxde/kde, what

Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"

2013-09-18 Thread Luis Bandarra
I didn't explain myself well, now that i have time, i'll see to it. I use Xephyr[1] to create a new X server in the current X host session. Then i launch the application i which to use on the new display. On 18-09-2013 07:49, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 17 Sep 2013, Luis Bandarra wrote: This

Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"

2013-09-18 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 06:44:28PM -0400, Rob Owens wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 01:57:54PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > Someone in private mail suggested Enlightenment. Openbox was already > > on my list. > > Desktop environments lean towards over kill. > > Enlightenment and awesome w

Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"

2013-09-17 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 17 Sep 2013, Luis Bandarra wrote: > > #!/bin/sh > > # script to start a new server with i3 > DISPLAY=:0 > Xephyr :1 -ac -br -reset -terminate -screen 1280x1024 2> /dev/null & > sleep 2 > DISPLAY=:1 > i3 & > > but you can use just the command line's commands... > > Hope it helps... > I use

Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"

2013-09-17 Thread Cláudio E. Elicker
did it. Now I'm in Openbox with no apparent way of switching back > without logging out, so I'll have to figure out how Fluxbox does > that... > > -Rob I'm a Openbox user. If the 'menu' package is installed you will have a entry in Openbox menu to switch to oth

Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"

2013-09-17 Thread Rob Owens
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 01:57:54PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Someone in private mail suggested Enlightenment. Openbox was already > on my list. > Desktop environments lean towards over kill. > Enlightenment and awesome will be investigated further. > Then I'd also suggest Fluxbox. By the

Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"

2013-09-17 Thread Joe
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 13:57:54 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > >> 2. Given that internet is effectively non-existent and > >> internal/external disk space is effectively unlimited, how can I > >> make as many as possible of the DE &/or WM on the distribution DVD > >> simply available to expe

Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"

2013-09-17 Thread Brian
ience. Each had something I'd like to see > in an ideal installation. I also did more web browsing comparing > "Desktop Environments" to "Windows Managers" and product comparisons > within those classifications. "Ideal installation"? What is that? I've

Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"

2013-09-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 01:57:54PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Desktop environments lean towards over kill. In that case, have a look at fvwm. http://www.fvwm.org/ -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who ar

Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"

2013-09-17 Thread Luis Bandarra
On 16-09-2013 22:50, Richard Owlett wrote: Dan Ritter wrote: On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 01:57:54PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: 2. Given that internet is effectively non-existent and internal/external disk space is effectively unlimited, how can I make as many as possible of the DE &/or WM on the

Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"

2013-09-16 Thread Cláudio E. Elicker
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:53:39 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > Cláudio E. Elicker wrote: > > On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 13:57:54 -0500 > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >> > >> An implied questions include: > >> how do I switch between them while comparing? > >> will thy potentially interfere with

Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"

2013-09-16 Thread Richard Owlett
Dan Ritter wrote: On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 01:57:54PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: 2. Given that internet is effectively non-existent and internal/external disk space is effectively unlimited, how can I make as many as possible of the DE &/or WM on the distribution DVD simply available to experim

Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"

2013-09-16 Thread Richard Owlett
and seemed to express my somewhat vague ideas of how a GUI should 'act'. It was an educational experience. Each had something I'd like to see in an ideal installation. I also did more web browsing comparing "Desktop Environments" to "Windows Managers" and prod

Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"

2013-09-16 Thread Richard Owlett
Cláudio E. Elicker wrote: On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 13:57:54 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: An implied questions include: how do I switch between them while comparing? will thy potentially interfere with each other? Thank you. The choosewm package is an option. Hopefully not. It m

Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"

2013-09-16 Thread Cláudio E. Elicker
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 13:57:54 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > > An implied questions include: > how do I switch between them while comparing? > will thy potentially interfere with each other? > > Thank you. > The choosewm package is an option. Hopefully not. -- EMACS is my operating s

Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"

2013-09-16 Thread Richard Owlett
ideal installation. I also did more web browsing comparing "Desktop Environments" to "Windows Managers" and product comparisons within those classifications. /Questions 1. Given that I prefer LILO over GRUB and xfce over Gnome/lxde/kde, what GUIs should I investigate further.

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-10-04 Thread cga2000
On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 10:45:32AM EDT, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 06:36:46PM EDT, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > On 09/28/07 17:21, Manu Hack wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > > > > >

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-10-04 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 06:36:46PM EDT, Ron Johnson wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 09/28/07 17:21, Manu Hack wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > Yeah, will do if I have the time. But at the moment I'm very > > > happy with x

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-10-03 Thread cga2000
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 06:36:46PM EDT, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/28/07 17:21, Manu Hack wrote: > [snip] > > > > Yeah, will do if I have the time. But at the moment I'm very happy > > with xfce4.4 (fast and with the real transparency stuff). :

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-29 Thread didier gaumet
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:59:56 -0500, Preston Boyington wrote: [...] > and fyi, i use debian with fluxbox on my P133, 16mb, compaq laptop. :D Hello Preston, what version of debian are you talking about? On a P133, 32MB, Dell Laptop it seemed to me that the last Debian version usable (speed...) was

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-29 Thread Vivek.M
A properly configured olvwm WM. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, em

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-29 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
> I found that the litest is icewm. Works great on my P-II-133 with 64 MB > ram and on my 486DX4-100 with 32 MB ram. The 486 wouldn't run Etch so > it runs great with OpenBSD. Woody also runs great on it. Iceweasel > takes a long time to render. > > Doug. Try DWM. Much lighter than icewm. Als

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-29 Thread Vivek.M
A properly configured olvwm WM. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-29 Thread didier gaumet
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:59:56 -0500, Preston Boyington wrote: [...] > and fyi, i use debian with fluxbox on my P133, 16mb, compaq laptop. :D Hello Preston, what version of debian are you talking about? On a P133, 32MB, Dell Laptop it seemed to me that the last Debian version usable (speed...) was

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-29 Thread s. keeling
Pál Csányi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What about stumpwm? > > http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/ > > Use this window manager somebody on Debian Etch? You could (aptitude search): p stumpwm - a Common Lisp window manager and no I never have. -- Any technology distinguishable fro

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 01:50:35PM -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote: > On 9/27/07, Manu Hack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I have a general question which I got when trying out different > > windows managers/desktop environments. When I try to use windowmaker > &

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-29 Thread didier gaumet
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:59:56 -0500, Preston Boyington wrote: [...] > and fyi, i use debian with fluxbox on my P133, 16mb, compaq laptop. :D Hello Preston, what version of debian are you talking about? On a P133, 32MB, Dell Laptop it seemed to me that the last Debian version usable (speed...) was

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-29 Thread Vivek.M
A properly configured olvwm WM. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-29 Thread s. keeling
Pál Csányi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What about stumpwm? > > http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/ > > Use this window manager somebody on Debian Etch? You could (aptitude search): p stumpwm - a Common Lisp window manager and no I never have. -- Any technology distinguishable fro

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-29 Thread cothrige
"Pál Csányi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Have you read /usr/share/doc/stumpwm/README.Debian [3]? It contains > information about how to start StumpWM. I tried this too, and I think it takes a great deal for granted. There is just too much assumed about what you know for this stuff to work, IM

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-29 Thread Pál Csányi
2007/9/29, cothrige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > "Pál Csányi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The debian stumpwm package dependency are: sbcl cl-clx-sbcl. > > Yeah, and I actually met those, and it may have "worked" except I could > never get it started as I just didn't know how. It may be because I am

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-29 Thread cothrige
"Pál Csányi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello Patrick! Howdy, > No, I have not set it up. :( > Thank you for help! :) Glad to be able to do so. > The debian stumpwm package dependency are: sbcl cl-clx-sbcl. Yeah, and I actually met those, and it may have "worked" except I could never get

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-29 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
> > Where can I pass the -fn argument to xterm to set up font size, using dwm? Edit your config.h file. There are mod keys defined for specific programs. Edit the arguments there. -- Amit Uttamchandani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "uns

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-29 Thread Pál Csányi
Hello Patrick! 2007/9/29, cothrige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > "Pál Csányi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > What about stumpwm? > > > > http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/ > > > > Use this window manager somebody on Debian Etch? > > Yes, I have it installed using etch, and like it very much. Though it >

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-29 Thread cothrige
"Pál Csányi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What about stumpwm? > > http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/ > > Use this window manager somebody on Debian Etch? Yes, I have it installed using etch, and like it very much. Though it was kind of hard to get going. You may have already set it up, but just in

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-29 Thread s. keeling
Pál Csányi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What about stumpwm? > > http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/ > > Use this window manager somebody on Debian Etch? You could (aptitude search): p stumpwm - a Common Lisp window manager and no I never have. -- Any technology distinguishable fro

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread Pál Csányi
What about stumpwm? http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/ Use this window manager somebody on Debian Etch? -- Regards, Paul Csanyi http://www.freewebs.com/csanyi-pal/index.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 01:32:43PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: > Hmm. That seems like it'd be a pain with xterms, since text software often > doesn't take well to having its window resized. I try to keep my xterms as > close to 80x24 as possible to minimize problems with things like aptitude.

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread Manu Hack
On 9/28/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/28/07 17:21, Manu Hack wrote: > [snip] > > > > Yeah, will do if I have the time. But at the moment I'm very happy > > with xfce4.4 (fast and with the real transparency stuff). :) > > What

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 06:21:31PM -0400, Manu Hack wrote: > On 9/27/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > its probably got more to do with memory *use* than management. By that > > I mean, you may end up wasting memory by using kde apps within a > > different wm. The kde app

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/28/07 17:21, Manu Hack wrote: [snip] > > Yeah, will do if I have the time. But at the moment I'm very happy > with xfce4.4 (fast and with the real transparency stuff). :) What's the benefit of transparency? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread Manu Hack
> > > > > > > I have a general question which I got when trying out different > > > > windows managers/desktop environments. When I try to use windowmaker > > > > (I wanted to make my computer faster as it's getting old), it > > >

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 01:32:43PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: > > On Sep 27, 2007, at 6:45 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >>So, for example, if I'm >>working in an x-term and I want another one, when it opens, the >>first one gets resized to half the screen and the new one gets the

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread Neil Watson
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 10:43:38PM +0200, Pál Csányi wrote: Where can I pass the -fn argument to xterm to set up font size, using dwm? You can assign you xterm properties in .Xdefaults: # fonts xterm*faceName: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold xterm*faceSize: 12 # other options xterm*geom

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread Pál Csányi
2007/9/28, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Sep 27, 2007, at 6:45 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >So, for example, if I'm >working in an x-term and I want another one, when it opens, the >first one gets resized to half the screen and the new one gets the >other half. O

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread David Brodbeck
On Sep 27, 2007, at 6:45 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: So, for example, if I'm working in an x-term and I want another one, when it opens, the first one gets resized to half the screen and the new one gets the other half. Open another, and they each get squeezed into 1/3, etc.

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 08:19:28PM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > > > > thanks. I've become sort of a wmii zealot in the last little > > while. It's been fun. hope I didn't steal your thunder. :) > > Lol no not at all. You should give DWM a try. I think there are improvements > over wmii. Al

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread Preston Boyington
didier gaumet wrote: > On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:59:56 -0500, Preston Boyington wrote: > > [...] >> and fyi, i use debian with fluxbox on my P133, 16mb, compaq laptop. :D > > Hello Preston, > > what version of debian are you talking about? On a P133, 32MB, Dell Laptop > it seemed to me that the las

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread didier gaumet
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:59:56 -0500, Preston Boyington wrote: [...] > and fyi, i use debian with fluxbox on my P133, 16mb, compaq laptop. :D Hello Preston, what version of debian are you talking about? On a P133, 32MB, Dell Laptop it seemed to me that the last Debian version usable (speed...) was

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-27 Thread Vivek.M
A properly configured olvwm WM. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-27 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
> > thanks. I've become sort of a wmii zealot in the last little > while. It's been fun. hope I didn't steal your thunder. :) Lol no not at all. You should give DWM a try. I think there are improvements over wmii. Also, there is a new fork from dwm called 'awesome' (yeah i know, apparently the

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 07:33:06PM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > I couldn't have explained it any better. I guess if I get asked, I will > simply forward your explanation to them ;). thanks. I've become sort of a wmii zealot in the last little while. It's been fun. hope I didn't steal your t

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-27 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
I couldn't have explained it any better. I guess if I get asked, I will simply forward your explanation to them ;). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-27 Thread Mumia W..
On 09/27/2007 03:41 PM, Manu Hack wrote: I agree. :) But I'm still confused as to why KDE can outperform (at least up to my experience) a supposedly light weight wm (maybe windowmaker is not lightweight enough, will try fluxbox later) on the same machine. Is that because of something like memor

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 07:25:48PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 09/27/07 18:58, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > >> I have to say, the screenshot has me intrigued. It's got a > >> pleasingly geeky sort of retro text GUI look, like something > >> Xerox PARC might have come up with in the 1970s. ;) >

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-27 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
> > With other WMs, you're not focused on the app and task? > Its hard for me to explain. I suggest you try it out. Of course, this is just my opinion and experiences. Just a suggestion. -- Amit Uttamchandani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/27/07 18:58, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: >> I have to say, the screenshot has me intrigued. It's got a >> pleasingly geeky sort of retro text GUI look, like something >> Xerox PARC might have come up with in the 1970s. ;) >> > > It is very effi

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-27 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
> I have to say, the screenshot has me intrigued. It's got a > pleasingly geeky sort of retro text GUI look, like something Xerox > PARC might have come up with in the 1970s. ;) > It is very efficient. Especially tiling modes. I can't use any other Windowmanager now. I just can't. With DWM,

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 04:41:12PM -0400, Manu Hack wrote: > On 9/27/07, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 27. September 2007 21:02 schrieb Manu Hack: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have a general question which I got when trying ou

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-27 Thread Preston Boyington
Javier Vasquez wrote: > > Don't know about windowMaker, but you might try: > > fluxbox > icewm > pekwm > fvwm2 > > You might find some pretty light, and some besides offering lots of > fun and good looking features... I use fluxbox and a machine with > 512M main, and 64M ati-rage is performing

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/27/07 16:30, David Brodbeck wrote: > > On Sep 27, 2007, at 12:52 PM, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > >> I understand your frustration. >> >> I have an old powerbook laptop (Speed: 500MHz, RAM: 512MB). Mac OS X, >> GNOME, and KDE hogged to much reso

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-27 Thread David Brodbeck
On Sep 27, 2007, at 12:52 PM, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: I understand your frustration. I have an old powerbook laptop (Speed: 500MHz, RAM: 512MB). Mac OS X, GNOME, and KDE hogged to much resources. So I started from scratch and installed a base install of Debian. I then installed just th

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-27 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
I understand your frustration. I have an old powerbook laptop (Speed: 500MHz, RAM: 512MB). Mac OS X, GNOME, and KDE hogged to much resources. So I started from scratch and installed a base install of Debian. I then installed just the necessary packages and I am using a very very lightweight win

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-27 Thread Manu Hack
On 9/27/07, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 27. September 2007 21:02 schrieb Manu Hack: > > Hi all, > > > > I have a general question which I got when trying out different > > windows managers/desktop environments. When I try to use windowmaker

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-27 Thread cothrige
"Javier Vasquez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Don't know about windowMaker, but you might try: > > fluxbox > icewm > pekwm > fvwm2 > > You might find some pretty light, and some besides offering lots of > fun and good looking features... I use fluxbox and a machine with > 512M main, and 64M at

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-27 Thread Javier Vasquez
On 9/27/07, Manu Hack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a general question which I got when trying out different > windows managers/desktop environments. When I try to use windowmaker > (I wanted to make my computer faster as it's getting old),

Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-27 Thread Andy
Am Donnerstag, 27. September 2007 21:02 schrieb Manu Hack: > Hi all, > > I have a general question which I got when trying out different > windows managers/desktop environments. When I try to use windowmaker > (I wanted to make my computer faster as it's getting old), it >

efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-27 Thread Manu Hack
Hi all, I have a general question which I got when trying out different windows managers/desktop environments. When I try to use windowmaker (I wanted to make my computer faster as it's getting old), it certainly is fast for initialization. But after that when around 10-15 windows are o

Re: Adding Debian menu to windows managers

2004-08-09 Thread Patrick Albuquerque
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 11:40:59AM -0500, Scott Thompson wrote: > Both KDE and GNOME have menus full of links to all of the software installed > on the system, including the Debian menu. When I use any other installed > windows manager, i.e. fluxbox, blackbox, enlightenment or xfce4, the menus > a

Re: Adding Debian menu to windows managers

2004-08-09 Thread Brian Pack
On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 12:40, Scott Thompson wrote: > Both KDE and GNOME have menus full of links to all of the software installed > on the system, including the Debian menu. When I use any other installed > windows manager, i.e. fluxbox, blackbox, enlightenment or xfce4, the menus > are all empty.

Adding Debian menu to windows managers

2004-08-09 Thread Scott Thompson
Both KDE and GNOME have menus full of links to all of the software installed on the system, including the Debian menu. When I use any other installed windows manager, i.e. fluxbox, blackbox, enlightenment or xfce4, the menus are all empty. How can I get at least the Debian menu to appear in enlig

Re: Switching windows managers

1999-05-04 Thread Ben Messinger
Christian Dysthe wrote: > > Hi, > > I was wondering if there is any software available that makes it easy to > switch > window managers without having to edit too many ini files. > > TIA Go to freshmeat.net and look for guichooser. It is a gtk app that works great for switching between window

Re: Switching windows managers

1999-05-03 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Mon, 3 May 1999, Christian Dysthe wrote: > > I was wondering if there is any software available that makes it easy to > switch > window managers without having to edit too many ini files. > You just have to edit ~/.xsession, change "exec foowm" to "exec barwm". If you get Gnome 1.0 though,

Switching windows managers

1999-05-03 Thread Christian Dysthe
Hi, I was wondering if there is any software available that makes it easy to switch window managers without having to edit too many ini files. TIA --- Regards, Christian Dysthe Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~cdysthe ICQ 3945810 Date: 03-May-99 Ti

Re: X windows Managers

1998-10-25 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Sun, 25 Oct 1998, Derek McCabe wrote: > Ive been able to boot X, but I would like to run a windows manager with it > like window maker, but I get a Xterm window, and when I try to manually run a > manager, I cannot click on the buttons. What did I do wrong? I dpkged the > files, and they see

X windows Managers

1998-10-25 Thread Derek McCabe
Ive been able to boot X, but I would like to run a windows manager with it like window maker, but I get a Xterm window, and when I try to manually run a manager, I cannot click on the buttons. What did I do wrong? I dpkged the files, and they seem to install correctly...     Is this common f

Re: Windows Managers

1998-06-13 Thread M.C. Vernon
> > > Could anyone suggest some good windows manager packages and where to get > > them? I'm using debian 2.0, kernel 2.0.33-9, x11R6. I'd like to be > > I prefer Afterstep 1.42, I'm using it right now on a RH 5 system and it is > very functional, plus it is good-looking. Stability seems to be

RE: Windows Managers

1998-06-12 Thread Ted Harding
On 12-Jun-98 Dennis Dai wrote: > For a good comparison of window managers, take a look at > http://www.PLiG.org/xwinman The URL is in fact http://www.PLiG.org/~xwinman Cheers, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Da

Re: Windows Managers

1998-06-12 Thread Stuart Krivis
On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Brian Morgan wrote: > Could anyone suggest some good windows manager packages and where to get > them? I'm using debian 2.0, kernel 2.0.33-9, x11R6. I'd like to be I prefer Afterstep 1.42, I'm using it right now on a RH 5 system and it is very functional, plus it is good-lo

Re: Windows Managers

1998-06-12 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 12 Jun 1998 16:38:03 -0400, Brian Morgan wrote: >Could anyone suggest some good windows manager packages and where to get >them? I'm using debian 2.0, kernel 2.0.33-9, x11R6. I'd like to be >able to use something that would be compatible with the upcoming release >of GNOME for debian. (

RE: Windows Managers

1998-06-12 Thread Dennis Dai
For a good comparison of window managers, take a look at http://www.PLiG.org/xwinman. Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Brian Morgan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 12, 1998 1:38 PM > To: Debian User group > Subject: Windows Managers > > Coul

Re: Windows Managers

1998-06-12 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Brian Morgan wrote: > Could anyone suggest some good windows manager packages and where to get > them? Well... I'd suggest you to use icewm... it is small, fast, and it will be one of the gnome-aware window managers. Version 0.8.16 is available in hamm, 0.9.5 in slink. 0.9.

Re: Windows Managers

1998-06-12 Thread Shaleh
Debian GNOME packages are in the finalization process and will appear in slink RSN (Real Soon Now). This includes ALL GNOME apps we can get our hands on from CVS. If any are missed, I am sure the debian-user community will inform us (-: Brian Morgan wrote: > > Could anyone suggest some good win

Windows Managers

1998-06-12 Thread Brian Morgan
Could anyone suggest some good windows manager packages and where to get them? I'm using debian 2.0, kernel 2.0.33-9, x11R6. I'd like to be able to use something that would be compatible with the upcoming release of GNOME for debian. (Midnight Commander?) Is gmc available for debian? (ref. to

Re: Icons in windows managers

1998-03-14 Thread Frank Barknecht
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hat gesagt: // [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > For a long time, since two days after I first installed a pre 1.3 debian > system, most of the icons in fvwm2 menus stopped working. Until the latest > afterstep, only root could get all the icons in afterstep, but the latest > afterstep

Icons in windows managers

1998-03-10 Thread adavis
For a long time, since two days after I first installed a pre 1.3 debian system, most of the icons in fvwm2 menus stopped working. Until the latest afterstep, only root could get all the icons in afterstep, but the latest afterstep improves this at least to some extent. Is this a permissions is