Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was "Mutt's Editor"

2000-10-16 Thread Damien
> i get no syntax hilighting at all (the 'file ends here, so > we'll show a tilde from here own down' is blue but that's all > that's colored). from the docs (place in .vimrc): """ Colour support and syntax highlighting """ " Some systems have a terminfo entry f

Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was "Mutt's Editor"

2000-10-16 Thread Dwight Johnson
On Sun, 15 Oct 2000, will trillich wrote: > On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 10:00:15AM -0700, Pann McCuaig wrote: > > If you want vim to be really useful you need the vim-rt package as well. > > I suspect that tips the balance. > > okay, so i > # apt-get install vim vim-rt > and vi still points to

Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was "Mutt's Editor"

2000-10-16 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 11:56:16PM -0500, will trillich wrote: > On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 10:00:15AM -0700, Pann McCuaig wrote: > > If you want vim to be really useful you need the vim-rt package as well. > > I suspect that tips the balance. > > okay, so i > # apt-get install vim vim-rt > and

Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was "Mutt's Editor"

2000-10-15 Thread will trillich
On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 10:00:15AM -0700, Pann McCuaig wrote: > If you want vim to be really useful you need the vim-rt package as well. > I suspect that tips the balance. okay, so i # apt-get install vim vim-rt and vi still points to elvis, so i # update-alternatives --install `wh

Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was "Mutt's Editor"

2000-10-15 Thread Damien
> what's this dependency thing listed for vim-rt? seems odd: > > recommended: > vim > suggested: > exuberant-ctags > or elvis > > eh? elvis? > vim-rt is basically all the vim support files. vim supports ctags, but it doesn't include its own tags file generator. thus you need e

Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was "Mutt's Editor"

2000-10-14 Thread will trillich
On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 10:00:15AM -0700, Pann McCuaig wrote: > On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 23:56, will trillich wrote: > > according to packages.debian.org/vim: > > > > stable18% vim 5.6.070-1 (309.4k) > > Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor > > > > according to packages.debian.

Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was "Mutt's Editor"

2000-10-14 Thread Pann McCuaig
On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 23:56, will trillich wrote: > On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 12:51:24PM -0500, Jeff Howie wrote: > > I cut my teeth on vim (4.x or so). and haven't looked back. > > > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 11:59:06AM -0500, will trillich wrote: > > > emacs fans, please turn the other cheek-- >

Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was "Mutt's Editor"

2000-10-14 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 06:44:26PM +0200, Paul Seelig wrote: > RefTeX is besides AUCTeX the second best reason to use any kind of > Emacsen for one's LaTeX editing. The first best reason for it is > AUCTeX... ;-) > > I've learned LaTeX a few years ago with vim actually but after having > become

Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was "Mutt's Editor"

2000-10-14 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 06:16:48AM -0500, will trillich wrote: > > > > Is there anything like reftex for vim? > > i haven't the faintest idea. not much of a tex person, here. I do a lot of LaTeX in Vim. What's reftex? Mike -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "...the word HACK is

Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was "Mutt's Editor"

2000-10-14 Thread will trillich
On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 09:25:53AM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Pann McCuaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I still use nvi on occasion 'cause it will show me ^M's in a file and > >it's easier to `nvi file` than to look up how to get vim to do it. ;-> >

Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was "Mutt's Editor"

2000-10-14 Thread will trillich
On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 10:10:35AM +0200, Andre Berger wrote: > will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > emacs fans, please turn the other cheek-- > > > > how does vim compare to elvis? which is the resource hog? > > which does better syntax highlighting? which makes your teeth > > whiter?

Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was "Mutt's Editor"

2000-10-14 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pann McCuaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I still use nvi on occasion 'cause it will show me ^M's in a file and >it's easier to `nvi file` than to look up how to get vim to do it. ;-> vim -b file (binary mode). Also handy to edit binaries to change hardcoded string

Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was "Mutt's Editor"

2000-10-14 Thread Andre Berger
will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > emacs fans, please turn the other cheek-- > > how does vim compare to elvis? which is the resource hog? > which does better syntax highlighting? which makes your teeth > whiter? Is there anything like reftex for vim? -- Andre

Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was "Mutt's Editor"

2000-10-13 Thread will trillich
On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 12:51:24PM -0500, Jeff Howie wrote: > I cut my teeth on vim (4.x or so). and haven't looked back. > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 11:59:06AM -0500, will trillich wrote: > > emacs fans, please turn the other cheek-- > > how does vim compare to elvis? which is the resource hog? >

Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was "Mutt's Editor"

2000-10-13 Thread Wayne Topa
Subject: Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was "Mutt's Editor" Date: Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 02:50:54PM -0500 In reply to:will trillich Quoting will trillich([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Bud Rogers wrote: > > > > On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, will trillich wrote: > > Will

Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was "Mutt's Editor"

2000-10-13 Thread Erik Steffl
will trillich wrote: > > Bud Rogers wrote: > > > > On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, will trillich wrote: > > > > > how does vim compare to elvis? which is the resource hog? > > > which does better syntax highlighting? > > > > I don't know about relative resource use, but vim's syntax highlighting is > > the b

Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was "Mutt's Editor"

2000-10-13 Thread will trillich
Bud Rogers wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, will trillich wrote: > > > how does vim compare to elvis? which is the resource hog? > > which does better syntax highlighting? > > I don't know about relative resource use, but vim's syntax highlighting is > the best I've seen. Ever. Anywhere. i'm p

Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was "Mutt's Editor"

2000-10-13 Thread Jeff Howie
I cut my teeth on vim (4.x or so). and haven't looked back. On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 11:59:06AM -0500, will trillich wrote: > emacs fans, please turn the other cheek-- > how does vim compare to elvis? which is the resource hog? Not sure about that, but I would assume that vi(elvis) would be on the

Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was "Mutt's Editor"

2000-10-13 Thread Bud Rogers
On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, will trillich wrote: > how does vim compare to elvis? which is the resource hog? > which does better syntax highlighting? I don't know about relative resource use, but vim's syntax highlighting is the best I've seen. Ever. Anywhere. -- Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was "Mutt's Editor"

2000-10-13 Thread Pann McCuaig
On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 11:59, will trillich wrote: > emacs fans, please turn the other cheek-- > > how does vim compare to elvis? which is the resource hog? > which does better syntax highlighting? which makes your teeth > whiter? FWIW, I was an early (early 90's) user of elvis. I switched to v

Vim vs Elvis -- was "Mutt's Editor"

2000-10-13 Thread will trillich
On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 01:15:45PM +1100, Damon Muller wrote: > Quoth Nate Bargmann, > > In ~./mutt/muttrc check this line: > > > > set editor=/usr/bin/vim > > You may also want to include the contents of > /usr/share/doc/vim/examples/mail in your ยท/.vimrc - it does cool things > like colour sig