Re: How to find suitable mailing list or USENET group

2024-07-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/09/2024 06:01 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 12:51 PM Richard Owlett wrote: My particular problem is finding an active user oriented list/group for KDE's Kate editor. All I found is a developers' list. In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list

Reviving Usenet Was: How to find suitable mailing list or USENET group

2024-07-09 Thread John Hasler
Max writes: > Gnus (Emacs) should be a bit more than just text UI. Yes, of course Gnus: it's what I use. But there is no point in mentioning anything connected with Emacs when talking about enticing people away from Facebook et al even though it is actually quite easy to use these days. -- John H

Re: How to find suitable mailing list or USENET group

2024-07-09 Thread Max Nikulin
On 09/07/2024 23:15, John Hasler wrote: I don't think a graphical Usenet client exists but it easily could. Even easier might be a browser plugin. Thunderbird supports NNTP and likely Claws as well. Gnus (Emacs) should be a bit more than just text UI. I am in doubts what you me

Re: How to find suitable mailing list or USENET group

2024-07-09 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 12:51 PM Richard Owlett wrote: > > My particular problem is finding an active user oriented list/group for > KDE's Kate editor. All I found is a developers' list. > > In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group? > Other

Re: How to find suitable mailing list or USENET group

2024-07-09 Thread eben
On 7/9/24 16:32, cgi...@surfnaked.ca wrote: On Tue, 09 Jul 2024 18:20:01 +0200, John Hasler wrote: > I don't think a graphical Usenet client exists but it easily could. > Even easier might be a browser plugin. The Pan newsreader does the job nicely and is about as graphical as

Re: How to find suitable mailing list or USENET group

2024-07-09 Thread cgibbs
On Tue, 09 Jul 2024 18:20:01 +0200, John Hasler wrote: > I don't think a graphical Usenet client exists but it easily could. > Even easier might be a browser plugin. The Pan newsreader does the job nicely and is about as graphical as you'd want to get. Although I norma

Re: How to find suitable mailing list or USENET group

2024-07-09 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/09/2024 12:30 PM, Van Snyder wrote: On Tue, 2024-07-09 at 07:55 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: My particular problem is finding an active user oriented list/group for KDE's Kate editor. All I found is a developers' list. This is somewhat tangential to the main question, but I find that ned

Re: How to find suitable mailing list or USENET group

2024-07-09 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/09/2024 12:25 PM, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: My particular problem is finding an active user oriented list/group for KDE's Kate editor. All I found is a developers' list. In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group? Others

Re: How to find suitable mailing list or USENET group

2024-07-09 Thread Van Snyder
On Tue, 2024-07-09 at 07:55 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > My particular problem is finding an active user oriented list/group > for > KDE's Kate editor. All I found is a developers' list. This is somewhat tangential to the main question, but I find that nedit has everything I need. If you can't

Re: How to find suitable mailing list or USENET group

2024-07-09 Thread debian-user
Richard Owlett wrote: > My particular problem is finding an active user oriented list/group > for KDE's Kate editor. All I found is a developers' list. > > In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group? > Others must have the same general problem

Re: How to find suitable mailing list or USENET group

2024-07-09 Thread Richard Owlett
your name. :-D In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group? Others must have the same general problem. In general, I leverage presearch or duckduckgo to find something, anything, pertinent relating to what I am researching. If I find a good resource, I bookmark it so that

Re: How to find suitable mailing list or USENET group

2024-07-09 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/09/2024 08:59 AM, Michel Verdier wrote: On 2024-07-09, Richard Owlett wrote: When posting, I assumed a mailing list would be the more likely solution. I just don't know how to find suitable list. Did you try the general KDE mailinglist? https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde I do

Re: How to find suitable mailing list or USENET group

2024-07-09 Thread John Hasler
Sirius writes: > Usenet is rather quiet these days, something I hope will change once > people tire of web-forums that is more preoccupied with showing you > ads than they are solving your problem. Not as long as browsers fail to support it and the myth that it cannot handle anything

Re: How to find suitable mailing list or USENET group

2024-07-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 9/7/24 22:06, Sirius wrote: On tis, 2024/07/09 at 07:55:28 GMT, Richard Owlett wrote: My particular problem is finding an active user oriented list/group for KDE's Kate editor. All I found is a developers' list. Mailing lists, well.. You could ask Debian Project nicely if they would cr

Re: How to find suitable mailing list or USENET group

2024-07-09 Thread Sirius
how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group? > Others must have the same general problem. In general, I leverage presearch or duckduckgo to find something, anything, pertinent relating to what I am researching. If I find a good resource, I bookmark it so that I have it to hand.

Re: How to find suitable mailing list or USENET group

2024-07-09 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-07-09, Richard Owlett wrote: > When posting, I assumed a mailing list would be the more likely solution. I > just don't know how to find suitable list. Did you try the general KDE mailinglist? https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde

Re: How to find suitable mailing list or USENET group

2024-07-09 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/09/2024 08:25 AM, Michel Verdier wrote: On 2024-07-09, Richard Owlett wrote: In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group? For usenet you can search the active file of your server. I was using news.eternal-september.org Subscribe to some groups and see if

Re: How to find suitable mailing list or USENET group

2024-07-09 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-07-09, Richard Owlett wrote: > In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group? For usenet you can search the active file of your server. I was using news.eternal-september.org Subscribe to some groups and see if someone respond. But usenet is almost dead nowadays :/

How to find suitable mailing list or USENET group

2024-07-09 Thread Richard Owlett
My particular problem is finding an active user oriented list/group for KDE's Kate editor. All I found is a developers' list. In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group? Others must have the same general problem.

Re: Usenet access.

2022-01-19 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
songbird writes: > pe...@easthope.ca wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Can anyone suggest an alternative to Google Groups for access to >> sci.electronics.repair. I'd be happy to pay a small subscription for >> access without tedious complications. > > i really liked individual.net and gladly paid them fo

Re: Usenet access.

2022-01-19 Thread songbird
Dan Ritter wrote: > songbird wrote: ... >> i really liked individual.net and gladly paid them for >> the service, it wasn't much, but then they stopped taking >> overseas payments so i had to find another service. > > They will take PayPal internationally; I don't know if it's > worthwhile for y

Re: Usenet access.

2022-01-19 Thread songbird
Anssi Saari wrote: > songbird writes: > >> eternal-september works well for my use now, but it does >> have hiccups here or there. so it's good to be patient >> and go read a book or something here or there. > > What kind of hiccups? I haven't noticed but I see in my Gnus config file > there ha

Re: Usenet access.

2022-01-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
, but free text-only Usenet service. It offers the sci.* hierarchy and carries the group you want. -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org 🔗 https://jmtd.net

Re: Usenet access.

2022-01-19 Thread Anssi Saari
songbird writes: > eternal-september works well for my use now, but it does > have hiccups here or there. so it's good to be patient > and go read a book or something here or there. What kind of hiccups? I haven't noticed but I see in my Gnus config file there have been issues connecting via

Re: Usenet access.

2022-01-18 Thread Richmond
pe...@easthope.ca writes: > Hi, > > Can anyone suggest an alternative to Google Groups for access to > sci.electronics.repair. I'd be happy to pay a small subscription for > access without tedious complications. > > Thx, ... P. news.aioe.org has it

Re: Usenet access.

2022-01-18 Thread Dan Ritter
songbird wrote: > pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Can anyone suggest an alternative to Google Groups for access to > > sci.electronics.repair. I'd be happy to pay a small subscription for > > access without tedious complications. > > i really liked individual.net and gladly paid the

Re: Usenet access.

2022-01-18 Thread songbird
pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Hi, > > Can anyone suggest an alternative to Google Groups for access to > sci.electronics.repair. I'd be happy to pay a small subscription for > access without tedious complications. i really liked individual.net and gladly paid them for the service, it wasn't much

Re: Usenet access.

2022-01-18 Thread Joe
on usage. Note the paid subscriptions often do a data block plan which they may not advertise prominently. I use about one 10GB block a year: https://www.tweaknews.eu/en/usenet-plans I did use NewsDemon, with which I was very happy, until one day it just stopped working with my setup and I was unable to resto

Re: Usenet access.

2022-01-18 Thread 황병희
pe...@easthope.ca writes: > Hi, > > Can anyone suggest an alternative to Google Groups for access to > sci.electronics.repair. I'd be happy to pay a small subscription for > access without tedious complications. + september with Gnus! Sincerely, Byung-Hee

Re: Usenet access.

2022-01-17 Thread Dan Ritter
Thomas Hochstein wrote: > pe...@easthope.ca schrieb: > > > Can anyone suggest an alternative to Google Groups for access to > > sci.electronics.repair. > > - free > (private one-man show, but very reliable) > > - 10 EUR/year (

Re: Usenet access.

2022-01-17 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
I've been using eternal-september.org for well over a decade.

Re: Usenet access.

2022-01-17 Thread Thomas Hochstein
pe...@easthope.ca schrieb: > Can anyone suggest an alternative to Google Groups for access to > sci.electronics.repair. - free (private one-man show, but very reliable) - 10 EUR/year (about 11,40 $) (offered by the Computer Cen

Re: Usenet access.

2022-01-17 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Monday 17 January 2022 03:09:27 pm pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Hi, > > Can anyone suggest an alternative to Google Groups for access to > sci.electronics.repair. I'd be happy to pay a small subscription for > access without tedious complications. > > Thx, ... P. > They're on grou

Usenet access.

2022-01-17 Thread peter
Hi, Can anyone suggest an alternative to Google Groups for access to sci.electronics.repair. I'd be happy to pay a small subscription for access without tedious complications. Thx, ... P. -- mobile: +1 778 951 5147 VoIP: +1 604 670 0140 48.7693 N 123.3053 W

Re: usenet and firewalld

2019-07-22 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 04:16:58PM -0500, Charles Zeitler wrote: > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:33 AM Reco wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 08:22:41AM -0500, Charles Zeitler wrote: > > > how do i configure firewalld to allow nntp? > > > > Unless you did something very unconvention

Re: usenet and firewalld

2019-07-22 Thread Charles Zeitler
On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:33 AM Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 08:22:41AM -0500, Charles Zeitler wrote: > > how do i configure firewalld to allow nntp? > > Unless you did something very unconventional, firewalld should not > prevent you from establishing outbound connecti

Re: usenet and firewalld

2019-07-22 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 08:22:41AM -0500, Charles Zeitler wrote: > how do i configure firewalld to allow nntp? Unless you did something very unconventional, firewalld should not prevent you from establishing outbound connections from your host. Therefore no configuration should be req

usenet and firewalld

2019-07-22 Thread Charles Zeitler
how do i configure firewalld to allow nntp? thanks charles zeitler -- The Perfect Is The Enemy Of The Good Enough

Re: usenet connection solved

2019-07-21 Thread Charles Zeitler
it turns out my firewall was borked. thanx again charles zeitler On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 9:11 AM Charles Zeitler wrote: > > for a couple of days it sufficed me to stop firewalld service > to get a usenet connection. > > today i get : > Sat Jul 20 08:59:46 2019 - Error connec

Re: usenet connection

2019-07-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 20 iul 19, 11:50:45, Charles Zeitler wrote: > On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 9:11 AM Charles Zeitler wrote: > > > > for a couple of days it sufficed me to stop firewalld service > > to get a usenet connection. > > can someone tell me how to confirm > sudo systemct

Re: usenet connection

2019-07-20 Thread Charles Zeitler
On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 9:11 AM Charles Zeitler wrote: > > for a couple of days it sufficed me to stop firewalld service > to get a usenet connection. can someone tell me how to confirm sudo systemctl stop firewalld.service? charles zeitler -- The Perfect Is The Enemy Of The Good Enough

Re: usenet connection

2019-07-20 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-20, Charles Zeitler wrote: > thanks for your reply. > > i didn't want to say this, but i get connected on my windows installation. > Have you tried any of the ipv4 addresses, rather than a ipv6 one (perhaps unrelated, but I saw a straw and I grabbed it). eunews.frugalusenet.com or eu

Re: usenet connection

2019-07-20 Thread Charles Zeitler
On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 11:21 AM Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 09:11:40 -0500 > Charles Zeitler wrote: > > Hello Charles, > > >Sat Jul 20 08:59:46 2019 - Error connecting to > >"news-v6.frugalusenet.com:563" (Cannot assign requested address) > >Sat Jul 20 09:02:02 2019 - Error connec

Re: usenet connection

2019-07-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 09:11:40 -0500 Charles Zeitler wrote: Hello Charles, >Sat Jul 20 08:59:46 2019 - Error connecting to >"news-v6.frugalusenet.com:563" (Cannot assign requested address) >Sat Jul 20 09:02:02 2019 - Error connecting to >"news.frugalusenet.com:563" (Connection timed out) Have you

Re: usenet connection

2019-07-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
ations without notifying you. Check your firewall settings. Contact your Usenet supplier admin with the problem, particularly if you're paying for the service. I always used free Usenet services. Never had a problem. B > On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 10:00 AM Patrick Bartek wrote: > > >

Re: usenet connection

2019-07-20 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, July 20, 2019 11:14:39 AM Charles Zeitler wrote: > thanks for your reply. > > i didn't want to say this, but i get connected on my windows installation. I can understand your reluctance to mention Windows on this list, but that is some useful / key information that would avoid going

Re: usenet connection

2019-07-20 Thread Charles Zeitler
irewalld service > > to get a usenet connection. > > > > today i get : > > Sat Jul 20 08:59:46 2019 - Error connecting to > > "news-v6.frugalusenet.com:563" (Cannot assign requested address) > > Sat Jul 20 09:02:02 2019 - Error connecting to > > &quo

Re: usenet connection

2019-07-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 09:11:40 -0500 Charles Zeitler wrote: > for a couple of days it sufficed me to stop firewalld service > to get a usenet connection. > > today i get : > Sat Jul 20 08:59:46 2019 - Error connecting to > "news-v6.frugalusenet.com:563" (Cannot assign

usenet connection

2019-07-20 Thread Charles Zeitler
for a couple of days it sufficed me to stop firewalld service to get a usenet connection. today i get : Sat Jul 20 08:59:46 2019 - Error connecting to "news-v6.frugalusenet.com:563" (Cannot assign requested address) Sat Jul 20 09:02:02 2019 - Error connecting to "news.fruga

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-22 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/04/2017 05:00 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: On Saturday, 2 Dec 2017 at 11:17, Richard Owlett wrote: This is part of my search for a LINUX PDA. [1] [2] OpenPandora and it's replacement, the Pyra (not yet ready, mind you). https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/ I have the former with Debian but aw

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/06/2017 05:36 AM, Richard Hector wrote: On 06/12/17 23:46, Dan Purgert wrote: Eric S Fraga wrote: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tuesday, 5 Dec 2017 at 14:53, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] I've seen the term "RSS", but never had any

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-06 Thread Richard Hector
On 06/12/17 23:46, Dan Purgert wrote: > Eric S Fraga wrote: >> --=-=-= >> Content-Type: text/plain >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >> On Tuesday, 5 Dec 2017 at 14:53, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> [...] > >>> I've seen the term "RSS", but never had any contact with it. Not sure >>

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/06/2017 04:46 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: Eric S Fraga wrote: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tuesday, 5 Dec 2017 at 14:53, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] I've seen the term "RSS", but never had any contact with it. Not sure if SeaMonkey 2.48 c

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-06 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric S Fraga wrote: > --=-=-= > Content-Type: text/plain > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Tuesday, 5 Dec 2017 at 14:53, Richard Owlett wrote: > > [...] > >> I've seen the term "RSS", but never had any contact with it. Not sure >> i

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-05 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Tuesday, 5 Dec 2017 at 14:53, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > I've seen the term "RSS", but never had any contact with it. Not sure > if SeaMonkey 2.48 can use it. No idea. Never used SeaMonkey... -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50, org 9.1.3 signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-05 Thread Richard Owlett
-based fora are lacking in functionality when compared with USENET unfortunately. Step backwards. My current pet peeve is discourse based systems (e.g. Julia language forum).

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-05 Thread Eric S Fraga
; As to web based fora, I've not discovered a way to efficiently > read/find posts of interest. I use gnus in Emacs for RSS feeds which can give you summaries of activities on some fora (but not all). Web-based fora are lacking in functionality when compared with USENET unfortunately.

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-05 Thread Richard Owlett
ad/find posts of interest. In mailing lists and USENET I make extensiveness use of the tagging and marking options of SeaMonkey. [I date from era of "paper tape"/"high speed paper tape. ;]

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-04 Thread Richard Hector
On 04/12/17 09:43, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/03/2017 09:13 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: >> On 12/03/2017 07:35 AM, Tom Furie wrote: >>> [snip] >>> >>> If you want "off the shelf", the closest that immediately comes to >>> mind is something like a Microsoft Surface or similar. >> >> Quick web searc

Re: Back to the question [Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group]

2017-12-04 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, December 04, 2017 08:22:39 AM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, December 03, 2017 11:10:16 AM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > BTW, if a device has WiFi access it can > > > > "interact" with cell phone users (by text or voice). > > See, for example, FreedomPop. Google voice and, hm

Re: Back to the question [Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group]

2017-12-04 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, December 03, 2017 11:10:16 AM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > BTW, if a device has WiFi access it can > "interact" with cell phone users (by text or voice). See, for example, FreedomPop. Google voice and, hmm, what's the new name-- hangups, hangouts, something like that, is another altern

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-04 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > It has an antenna. A sharp knife or some conductive tape or adhesive > and Bob's your uncle. Stefan writes: Hmm... I thought the antenna on those devices nowadays are physically just traces printed on a PCB. They are. > They're not necessarily very easy to find AFAIK... They're pret

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-04 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Saturday, 2 Dec 2017 at 11:17, Richard Owlett wrote: > This is part of my search for a LINUX PDA. [1] [2] OpenPandora and it's replacement, the Pyra (not yet ready, mind you). https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/ I have the former with Debian but awaiting the latter with eagerness... -- Eric

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-04 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 01:49:03AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > It has an antenna. A sharp knife or some conductive tape or adhesive > > and Bob's your uncle. > > Hmm... I thought the antenna on those devices nowadays are physically > just traces

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-03 Thread Ben Finney
Richard Owlett writes: > On 12/03/2017 04:14 AM, Ben Finney wrote: > > What specific features must the device omit, to meet this criterion? > > Presence of internal hardware capable of radiating in cell network > spectrum (omitting SIM card insufficient). If that is the *only* way to satisfy you

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
> It has an antenna. A sharp knife or some conductive tape or adhesive > and Bob's your uncle. Hmm... I thought the antenna on those devices nowadays are physically just traces printed on a PCB. They're not necessarily very easy to find AFAIK (hell, just opening the device such that you can clos

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-03 Thread The Wanderer
On 2017-12-03 at 22:49, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/03/2017 06:26 PM, David Wright wrote: > >> On Sun 03 Dec 2017 at 08:21:46 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: >> >>> On 12/03/2017 04:14 AM, Ben Finney wrote: What specific features must the device omit, to meet this criterion? >>> >>> Prese

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-03 Thread John Hasler
I wrote; > Disabling the radio in a smartphone should be easy. Stefan writes: > As a moral imperative, I agree. In practice it seems to be harder than > ... it should It has an antenna. A sharp knife or some conductive tape or adhesive and Bob's your uncle. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/03/2017 06:26 PM, David Wright wrote: On Sun 03 Dec 2017 at 08:21:46 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/03/2017 04:14 AM, Ben Finney wrote: Richard Owlett writes: 6. *NOT* be a "smartphone". What specific features must the device omit, to meet this criterion? Presence of internal

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Disabling the radio in a smartphone should be easy. ^^ As a moral imperative, I agree. In practice it seems to be harder than ... it should Stefan

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-03 Thread David Wright
On Sun 03 Dec 2017 at 08:21:46 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/03/2017 04:14 AM, Ben Finney wrote: > >Richard Owlett writes: > > > >>6. *NOT* be a "smartphone". > > > >What specific features must the device omit, to meet this criterion? > > Presence of internal hardware capable of radiatin

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/03/2017 09:13 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/03/2017 07:35 AM, Tom Furie wrote: [snip] If you want "off the shelf", the closest that immediately comes to mind is something like a Microsoft Surface or similar. Quick web search doesn't indicate if any meet my requirements as a handheld.

Re: Back to the question [Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group]

2017-12-03 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, December 03, 2017 10:42:12 AM Richard Owlett wrote: > > Any suggestions for a suitable mailing list or USENET group? Try "Eco-Conscious Computing" I'm not exactly clear about what they are working towards, but even if it doesn't meet your needs they may

Back to the question [Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group]

2017-12-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/03/2017 09:19 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/03/2017 07:26 AM, The Wanderer wrote: Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw > Any suggestions for a suitable mailing list or USENET group. Who me? Having met Shaw's defini

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/03/2017 07:26 AM, The Wanderer wrote: Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw Who me?

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/03/2017 07:02 AM, John Hasler wrote: Richard Owlett writes: 6. *NOT* be a "smartphone". At a first pass not be what FCC describes as an "intentional radiator". Not sure how much that applies to WiFi or Bluetooth, neither are of particular interest to me. Disabling the radio in a smar

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/03/2017 07:35 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sun, Dec 03, 2017 at 06:57:30AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/02/2017 01:52 PM, John Hasler wrote: David Wright writes: what would be the principal use of this device, who would it be aimed at, and what would be the size of its market? I'd buy

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/03/2017 04:14 AM, Ben Finney wrote: Richard Owlett writes: 6. *NOT* be a "smartphone". What specific features must the device omit, to meet this criterion? Presence of internal hardware capable of radiating in cell network spectrum (omitting SIM card insufficient). Is it suffici

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/03/2017 04:07 AM, Curt wrote: On 2017-12-02, Richard Owlett wrote: This is part of my search for a LINUX PDA. [1] [2] Me me me me me me me. Ahhh Documented potential market has increased again. https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4biamr/a_list_of_handheldpocket_linux_computers/

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-03 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Dec 03, 2017 at 06:57:30AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/02/2017 01:52 PM, John Hasler wrote: > >David Wright writes: > >>what would be the principal use of this device, who would it be aimed > >>at, and what would be the size of its market? > > > >I'd buy one were it cheap enough (i

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/02/2017 02:01 PM, Joe wrote: On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 13:17:14 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/02/2017 12:02 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, December 02, 2017 12:17:39 PM Richard Owlett wrote: 6. *NOT* be a "smartphone". Well, I am curious about why you don't want it to be a s

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-03 Thread The Wanderer
On 2017-12-03 at 07:57, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/02/2017 01:52 PM, John Hasler wrote: > >> David Wright writes: >>> what would be the principal use of this device, who would it be >>> aimed at, and what would be the size of its market? >> >> I'd buy one were it cheap enough (it wouldn't be

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/02/2017 07:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: David Wright writes: what would be the principal use of this device, who would it be aimed at, and what would be the size of its market? I wrote: I'd buy one were it cheap enough (it wouldn't be). David Wright writes: Well, I just might¹. But I'm

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-03 Thread John Hasler
Richard Owlett writes: > 6. *NOT* be a "smartphone". > At a first pass not be what FCC describes as an "intentional > radiator". Not sure how much that applies to WiFi or Bluetooth, > neither are of particular interest to me. Disabling the radio in a smartphone should be easy. -- John Hasler j

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/02/2017 01:52 PM, John Hasler wrote: David Wright writes: what would be the principal use of this device, who would it be aimed at, and what would be the size of its market? I'd buy one were it cheap enough (it wouldn't be). I don't see why its price structure be more than a laptop or

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/02/2017 01:37 PM, David Wright wrote: On Sat 02 Dec 2017 at 13:17:14 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/02/2017 12:02 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, December 02, 2017 12:17:39 PM Richard Owlett wrote: 6. *NOT* be a "smartphone". Well, I am curious about why you don't want

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-03 Thread Ben Finney
Richard Owlett writes: > 6. *NOT* be a "smartphone". What specific features must the device omit, to meet this criterion? Is it sufficient that the device does not connect to a cellular telephone network? Or are there other features (which, specifically?) that must also be omitted? -- \

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-03 Thread Curt
On 2017-12-02, Richard Owlett wrote: > This is part of my search for a LINUX PDA. [1] [2] > Me me me me me me me. https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4biamr/a_list_of_handheldpocket_linux_computers/ Be a real hacker and make a NODE: https://n-o-d-e.net/terminal_2.html -- "Truly, truly, I

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-02 Thread John Hasler
David Wright writes: > what would be the principal use of this device, who would it be aimed > at, and what would be the size of its market? I wrote: > I'd buy one were it cheap enough (it wouldn't be). David Wright writes: > Well, I just might¹. But I'm afraid your reply doesn't actually > addre

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-02 Thread David Wright
On Sat 02 Dec 2017 at 13:52:41 (-0600), John Hasler wrote: > David Wright writes: > > what would be the principal use of this device, who would it be aimed > > at, and what would be the size of its market? > > I'd buy one were it cheap enough (it wouldn't be). Well, I just might¹. But I'm afraid

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-02 Thread Joe
On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 13:17:14 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/02/2017 12:02 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Saturday, December 02, 2017 12:17:39 PM Richard Owlett wrote: > >> 6. *NOT* be a "smartphone". > > > > Well, I am curious about why you don't want it to be a smartphone, > > and

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-02 Thread John Hasler
David Wright writes: > what would be the principal use of this device, who would it be aimed > at, and what would be the size of its market? I'd buy one were it cheap enough (it wouldn't be). -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-02 Thread David Wright
On Sat 02 Dec 2017 at 13:17:14 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/02/2017 12:02 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > >On Saturday, December 02, 2017 12:17:39 PM Richard Owlett wrote: > >>6. *NOT* be a "smartphone". > > > >Well, I am curious about why you don't want it to be a smartphone, > >and whet

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/02/2017 12:02 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, December 02, 2017 12:17:39 PM Richard Owlett wrote: 6. *NOT* be a "smartphone". Well, I am curious about why you don't want it to be a smartphone, and whether doing something like removing the SIM from a cell phone (and possibly ep

Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-02 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, December 02, 2017 12:17:39 PM Richard Owlett wrote: > 6. *NOT* be a "smartphone". Well, I am curious about why you don't want it to be a smartphone, and whether doing something like removing the SIM from a cell phone (and possibly epoxying the socket) would meet your needs?

[OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

2017-12-02 Thread Richard Owlett
have touchscreen display. 5. be able to read/write a USB flash drive. 6. *NOT* be a "smartphone". Any suggestions for a suitable mailing list or USENET group. TIA [1] Handhelds that conveniently run Debian https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/11/msg00256.html [2] Wanted - a Debian

Re: debian-user via USENET [was: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum]

2014-10-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 10 Oct 14:56 -0500, softwatt wrote: > On 10/10/2014 10:26 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > * On 2014 10 Oct 14:19 -0500, softwatt wrote: > >> > My "thanks" was not threaded correctly. Sorry. > > It was threaded correctly by Mutt for me. Check the threading in the > > list archive. Might be

Re: debian-user via USENET [was: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum]

2014-10-10 Thread softwatt
On 10/10/2014 10:26 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2014 10 Oct 14:19 -0500, softwatt wrote: >> > My "thanks" was not threaded correctly. Sorry. > It was threaded correctly by Mutt for me. Check the threading in the > list archive. Might be an issue with your MUA. Mutt seems smarter than the nor

Re: debian-user via USENET [was: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum]

2014-10-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 10 Oct 14:19 -0500, softwatt wrote: > My "thanks" was not threaded correctly. Sorry. It was threaded correctly by Mutt for me. Check the threading in the list archive. Might be an issue with your MUA. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds

Re: debian-user via USENET [was: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum]

2014-10-10 Thread softwatt
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