Re: SpamAssassin and false-negative spam

2003-09-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 00:44, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 06:10:42AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Ok, clarification: I'm not asking for the score parameters; I'm > > asking for the score of each individual email. > > Check the

Re: SpamAssassin and false-negative spam

2003-09-25 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 06:10:42AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > Ok, clarification: I'm not asking for the score parameters; I'm > asking for the score of each individual email. Check the headers. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :'

Re: SpamAssassin and false-negative spam

2003-09-25 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 05:22:30AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > How can I find out the SA (v2.55) scores of all email? /usr/lib/spamassassin - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Deb

Re: SpamAssassin and false-negative spam

2003-09-25 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Die, 2003-09-23 at 13:18, Colin Watson wrote: > By default, every mail scanned by SA, ham or spam, comes out with an > X-Spam-Status: header which lists the score and the triggered tests. Not for me :) Actually, I wanted to ask this for a couple of days (/me being a Swen victim). I run spamd

Re: SpamAssassin and false-negative spam

2003-09-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 05:22:30AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > How can I find out the SA (v2.55) scores of all email? Run it through spamassassin and it'll tell you? > I ask that because I'd like to see how it scores spam that it thinks > is ham. Once I know that, I know which knobs to tweak. B

Re: SpamAssassin and false-negative spam

2003-09-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:22:30 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I ask that because I'd like to see how it scores spam that it thinks > is ham. Once I know that, I know which knobs to tweak. From man mail::spamassassin::conf always_add_headers { 0 | 1 } (default: 1)

Re: SpamAssassin and false-negative spam

2003-09-23 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 09:32:14AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > Yes, I know. I mean that I don't have anything like that in any > of my mails, neither ham nor spam. (But the spams get quarantined > and I get a SPAM FROM email from amavisd-new, so that doesn't bother > me.) Wait... You're calling

Re: SpamAssassin and false-negative spam

2003-09-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 08:58, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 08:48:44AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 06:28, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: > > > X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-7.2 required=4.0 > > > tests=BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TE

Re: SpamAssassin and false-negative spam

2003-09-23 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 09:24:51AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 07:44, Richard Humphrey wrote: > > Add this to your local.cf file and each email will contain the results of > > the tests, so you can compare ham vs spam etc. > > > > always_add_report 1 > > Ok, I added th

Re: SpamAssassin and false-negative spam

2003-09-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 07:44, Richard Humphrey wrote: > Add this to your local.cf file and each email will contain the results of > the tests, so you can compare ham vs spam etc. > > always_add_report 1 Ok, I added these to /etc/spamassassin/local.cf, and restarted SA, but still don't have

Re: SpamAssassin and false-negative spam

2003-09-23 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 08:48:44AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 06:28, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: > > X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-7.2 required=4.0 > > tests=BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, > > REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LON

Re: SpamAssassin and false-negative spam

2003-09-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 06:28, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 06:10:42AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Ok, clarification: I'm not asking for the score parameters; I'm > > asking for the score of each individual email. > > Isn't it in the headers? My configuration does nothing

Re: SpamAssassin and false-negative spam

2003-09-23 Thread Richard Humphrey
Add this to your local.cf file and each email will contain the results of the tests, so you can compare ham vs spam etc. always_add_report 1 -- Richard Humphreyhttp://www.rhumphrey.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: SpamAssassin and false-negative spam

2003-09-23 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
> It does, actually. I was thinking of the more detailed report that > comes in the body of spam messages, and which lists each matched > test's score and description. Ah, I see. I used to check each score in /usr/share/spamassassin, but I agree -- piping it through spamassassin -t (as you suggest

Re: SpamAssassin and false-negative spam

2003-09-23 Thread Robert Vollmert
> I always pipe it through "spamc", and the report is added to the > headers, even when it's ham. > > Doesn't that work for you, too? It does, actually. I was thinking of the more detailed report that comes in the body of spam messages, and which lists each matched test's score and description.

Re: SpamAssassin and false-negative spam

2003-09-23 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 01:24:52PM +0200, Robert Vollmert wrote: > easiest seems to be to pipe the message to 'spamassassin -t'. > Depending on your mailclient, of course. > I'm sure it's also possible to make spamassassin insert its report > header into every mail it checks. I always pipe it thr

Re: SpamAssassin and false-negative spam

2003-09-23 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 06:10:42AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > Ok, clarification: I'm not asking for the score parameters; I'm > asking for the score of each individual email. Isn't it in the headers? My configuration does nothing but to put names in whitelists/blacklists, and I always get the sc

Re: SpamAssassin and false-negative spam

2003-09-23 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 06:10:42AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > How can I find out the SA (v2.55) scores of all email? > > Ok, clarification: I'm not asking for the score parameters; I'm > asking for the score of each individual email. easiest seems to be to pipe the message to 'spamassassin

Re: SpamAssassin and false-negative spam

2003-09-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 05:37, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: > > How can I find out the SA (v2.55) scores of all email? > > I think it's in /usr/share/spamassassin, in the .cf files. > > > I ask that because I'd like to see how it scores spam that it thinks > > is ham. Once I know that, I know which

Re: SpamAssassin and false-negative spam

2003-09-23 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
> How can I find out the SA (v2.55) scores of all email? I think it's in /usr/share/spamassassin, in the .cf files. > I ask that because I'd like to see how it scores spam that it thinks > is ham. Once I know that, I know which knobs to tweak. Change the scores in /etc/spamassassin/local.cf J.

SpamAssassin and false-negative spam

2003-09-23 Thread Ron Johnson
Hi, How can I find out the SA (v2.55) scores of all email? I ask that because I'd like to see how it scores spam that it thinks is ham. Once I know that, I know which knobs to tweak. Thanks -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]