Re: wheezy how-to

2012-12-18 Thread berenger . morel
The plain-old window managers are sufficiently different from Windows and Apple that I feel comfortable stating that the developers are not interested in keeping up with the current desktop trends. That gives me high confidence that there won't be many major changes in the way those window man

Re: wheezy how-to

2012-12-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 15:23:16 Rob Owens wrote: > It's not clear how long the Gnome folks will continue to support the > Gnome Classic session (which upstream Gnome refers to as Gnome Legacy). > Some people may decide that their own ideals no longer align with the > ideals of the Gnome develo

Re: wheezy how-to

2012-12-18 Thread Rob Owens
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 04:21:47AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > Can you recommend a good Wheezy HOWTO for users forcibly being > migrated from the Gnome environment of Etch, Lenny, or Squeeze? > > I dread having to learn all the details of how to configure and use > Wheezy once it becomes sta

Re: wheezy how-to

2012-12-17 Thread Steve Witt
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012, Bob Proulx wrote: Russell L. Harris wrote: Can you recommend a good Wheezy HOWTO for users forcibly being migrated from the Gnome environment of Etch, Lenny, or Squeeze? -- snip -- You could try MATE or another of the GNOME 2 fork projects that will be around keeping

Re: wheezy how-to

2012-12-17 Thread Bob Proulx
Russell L. Harris wrote: > Can you recommend a good Wheezy HOWTO for users forcibly being > migrated from the Gnome environment of Etch, Lenny, or Squeeze? If you use GNOME 2 now and you upgrade to Wheezy then you will be upgraded to GNOME 3 which as you know is quite different. > I dread having

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-03 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:28:46 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: >>> Have anyone submit a bug report for it ? >> >> To enhance the gnome-keyring doc/readme? Nope (most probably because of >> the aforementioned lazyness) :-) > > I see ! > > > In fact, a bug report was submit in April: > > http://bugs.d

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-03 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello: On 03/08/11 19:04, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:33:39 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: On 03/08/11 14:07, Camaleón wrote: (...) Anyway, I sincerely doubt the only way to widely disable "gnome-keyring- ssh" starts by forcing the user to compile the application with ssh keyring-a

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-03 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:33:39 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > On 03/08/11 14:07, Camaleón wrote: (...) >> Anyway, I sincerely doubt the only way to widely disable >> "gnome-keyring- ssh" starts by forcing the user to compile the >> application with ssh keyring-app disable, that is a non-sense. >> A

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-03 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello: On 03/08/11 14:07, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 21:23:27 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: On 02/08/11 19:46, Camaleón wrote: (...) This does not actually remove gnome-keyring, but it does allow lower level system software to handle SSH keys, for instance. Yes, but is it a per us

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-03 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 21:23:27 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > On 02/08/11 19:46, Camaleón wrote: (...) >> This does not actually remove gnome-keyring, but it does allow >> lower level system software to handle SSH keys, for instance. > > Yes, but is it a per useir set up, not a syst

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-02 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20110802_090648, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Hello List: > > On 02/08/11 00:10, Paul E Condon wrote: > >On 20110801_230130, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>Indeed, because I would suspect that a lot of packages depend on > >>gnome-keyring > >>as I could read on Google. But as only a `minima

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-02 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello: On 02/08/11 19:46, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:22:06 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello: On 02/08/11 17:42, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 09:06:48 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: On 02/08/11 00:10, Paul E Condon wrote: (...) This does not actually remove gnome-keyrin

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-02 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:22:06 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Hello: > > On 02/08/11 17:42, Camaleón wrote: >> On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 09:06:48 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: >> >>> On 02/08/11 00:10, Paul E Condon wrote: >> >> (...) >> This does not actually remove gnome-keyring, but it does allow lo

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-02 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello: On 02/08/11 17:42, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 09:06:48 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: On 02/08/11 00:10, Paul E Condon wrote: (...) This does not actually remove gnome-keyring, but it does allow lower level system software to handle SSH keys, for instance. Yes, but is it a p

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-02 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 09:06:48 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > On 02/08/11 00:10, Paul E Condon wrote: (...) >> This does not actually remove gnome-keyring, but it does allow lower >> level system software to handle SSH keys, for instance. > > Yes, but is it a per user set up, not a system wide set

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-02 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello List: On 02/08/11 00:10, Paul E Condon wrote: On 20110801_230130, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Indeed, because I would suspect that a lot of packages depend on gnome-keyring as I could read on Google. But as only a `minimal' Gnome is actually installed on my box, it appeared that no package de

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-01 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20110801_230130, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > > > > Indeed, because I would suspect that a lot of packages depend on gnome-keyring > as I could read on Google. But as only a `minimal' Gnome is actually > installed on my box, it appeared that no package depends on it. > OT: Gnome sounds heavy to me,

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-01 Thread Jerome BENOIT
On 01/08/11 22:16, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 13:16:43 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Camaleón wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: I disagree. If the package isn't useful then removing it is very likely the easiest solution. Why frustrate yourself trying to work around the problem when removing t

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-01 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 13:16:43 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Camaleón wrote: >> Bob Proulx wrote: >> > I disagree. If the package isn't useful then removing it is very >> > likely the easiest solution. Why frustrate yourself trying to work >> > around the problem when removing the problem is a good s

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-01 Thread Bob Proulx
Camaleón wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > I disagree. If the package isn't useful then removing it is very likely > > the easiest solution. Why frustrate yourself trying to work around the > > problem when removing the problem is a good solution too. > > IMO, removing should be the last resort, th

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-01 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 20:33:45 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > On 01/08/11 20:19, Camaleón wrote: >> On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 20:02:56 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: >> >> >>> On 01/08/11 19:53, Camaleón wrote: >> >> (...) >> Should you have removed/renamed >>> >>> If I remember well, this causes trouble

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-01 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 12:30:10 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Camaleón wrote: >> Jerome BENOIT wrote: >> > Finally I applied a brute force solution: I purged gnome-keyring. >> >> Wow, how drastic! > > I disagree. If the package isn't useful then removing it is very likely > the easiest solution. Why

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-01 Thread Jerome BENOIT
On 01/08/11 20:19, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 20:02:56 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: On 01/08/11 19:53, Camaleón wrote: (...) Should you have removed/renamed If I remember well, this causes trouble. I meant removing the `/etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop' It shou

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-01 Thread Bob Proulx
Camaleón wrote: > Jerome BENOIT wrote: > > Finally I applied a brute force solution: I purged gnome-keyring. > > Wow, how drastic! I disagree. If the package isn't useful then removing it is very likely the easiest solution. Why frustrate yourself trying to work around the problem when removing

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-01 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 20:02:56 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > > On 01/08/11 19:53, Camaleón wrote: (...) >> Should you have removed/renamed > > If I remember well, this causes trouble. It shouldn't, at all. Is what README file says (removing the involving elements from the menu so they don't ru

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-01 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello List: On 01/08/11 19:53, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 19:39:27 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: On 01/08/11 13:51, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 13:43:10 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: I have just migrated from Squeeze to Wheezy. It appeared that gnome-keyring agent interferes wi

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-01 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 19:39:27 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > On 01/08/11 13:51, Camaleón wrote: >> On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 13:43:10 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: >> >>> I have just migrated from Squeeze to Wheezy. It appeared that >>> gnome-keyring agent interferes with my ssh-agent set-up: I want to >>>

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-01 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello List: Thanks for the link. On 01/08/11 13:51, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 13:43:10 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: I have just migrated from Squeeze to Wheezy. It appeared that gnome-keyring agent interferes with my ssh-agent set-up: I want to disable gnome-keyring agent for ssh. A

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-01 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 13:43:10 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > I have just migrated from Squeeze to Wheezy. It appeared that > gnome-keyring agent interferes with my ssh-agent set-up: I want to > disable gnome-keyring agent for ssh. > > At the end of the README.Debian for gnome-keyring, it is suggest