Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Tuesday, 25 Sep 2018 at 15:01, Brian wrote: > Aren't standard utilities whatever you want them to be? Who could live > without netcat, midnight commander and oneko? emacs :-) -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.1.13 on Debian buster/sid

Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread David Wright
On Tue 25 Sep 2018 at 15:56:11 (+0100), Brian wrote: > On Tue 25 Sep 2018 at 12:11:56 +, Matthew Crews wrote: > > On 9/25/18 2:08 AM, Thakur Mahashaya wrote: > > > Hi! > > > Please tell me what is the list of standard utilities in Debian?wget, > > > apt, curl, transport-https, sources.list

Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Brian wrote: > You're after a fight, aren't you? :) Given the topic, it would be unnatural if no branches and twigs would appear in this thread. (My apologies to Thakur Mahashaya.) I wrote: > > (Hey. You smuggled the word "system" between "standard" and "utility.) > Does it count as going

Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Brian
On Tue 25 Sep 2018 at 12:11:56 +, Matthew Crews wrote: > On 9/25/18 2:08 AM, Thakur Mahashaya wrote: > > Hi! > > Please tell me what is the list of standard utilities in Debian?wget, > > apt, curl, transport-https, sources.list, man, dd, sha256sum,..what > > else? > > > > I took a

Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Brian
On Tue 25 Sep 2018 at 13:24:48 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Brian wrote: > > There can be no dispute over the meaning of "standard system > > utilities". These are the ones which have a "Priority: standard" > > field in the package description. > > There can always be a dispute. q.e.d. You're

Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/25/18, Thakur Mahashaya wrote: > Hi! > Please tell me what is the list of standard utilities in Debian?wget, > apt, curl, transport-https, sources.list, man, dd, sha256sum,..what > else? I saw everyone else's great responses. Dissecting a debootstrap encounter comes to mind for me.

Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > No command line CD/DVD/BD burning: Dave Sherohman wrote: > Sounds pretty far from "standard" to me. Bordering on "esoteric", even. Burn programs compensate for a shortcomming of the Linux kernel and the Unix device model. If a burner drive is built into the machine, then a driv

Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 01:24:48PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > But i am not sure whether the official classification in > https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-priorities > of the first three priorities really matches the idea of a set of > "standard [system] utilities": >

Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 06:28:46AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 12:08:54PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, mick crane wrote: > have a look in /usr/bin ? Not to forget /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin : https://wiki.debian.org/FilesystemHierarchyStandard /bin is specified to hold

Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Jack Dangler
On 09/25/2018 06:28 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 12:08:54PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, mick crane wrote: have a look in /usr/bin ? Not to forget /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin : https://wiki.debian.org/FilesystemHierarchyStandard /bin is specified to hold "essential" pr

Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Curt
On 2018-09-25, Thakur Mahashaya wrote: > no trick to be honest > The expression "standard utilities" seems to have thrown people for a minor loop. Me being naturally loopy to begin with, I navigated the treacherous semantic waters of your inquiry with my usual aplomb. I would consider the packa

Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Jack Dangler
On 09/25/2018 06:17 AM, Brian wrote: On Tue 25 Sep 2018 at 12:08:54 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, mick crane wrote: have a look in /usr/bin ? Not to forget /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin : https://wiki.debian.org/FilesystemHierarchyStandard /bin is specified to hold "essential" programs.

Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Matthew Crews
On 9/25/18 2:08 AM, Thakur Mahashaya wrote: > Hi! > Please tell me what is the list of standard utilities in Debian?wget, > apt, curl, transport-https, sources.list, man, dd, sha256sum,..what else? > I took a peek at /usr/share/tasksel/descs/debian-tasks.desc, and this is what I see: Ta

Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Brian wrote: > There can be no dispute over the meaning of "standard system > utilities". These are the ones which have a "Priority: standard" > field in the package description. There can always be a dispute. q.e.d. (Hey. You smuggled the word "system" between "standard" and "utility.) Hig

Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Thakur Mahashaya
is that what ls -l /bin needs? 25.09.2018, 12:08, "Thakur Mahashaya" : > Hi! > Please tell me what is the list of standard utilities in Debian?wget, > apt, curl, transport-https, sources.list, man, dd, sha256sum,..what else?

Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Brian
On Tue 25 Sep 2018 at 06:28:46 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 12:08:54PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > mick crane wrote: > > > have a look in /usr/bin ? > > > > Not to forget /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin : > > https://wiki.debian.org/FilesystemHierarchyStandard >

Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Dan Ritter
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 12:08:54PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > mick crane wrote: > > have a look in /usr/bin ? > > Not to forget /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin : > https://wiki.debian.org/FilesystemHierarchyStandard > > /bin is specified to hold "essential" programs. > /sbin is its add-on

Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Brian
On Tue 25 Sep 2018 at 12:08:54 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > mick crane wrote: > > have a look in /usr/bin ? > > Not to forget /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin : > https://wiki.debian.org/FilesystemHierarchyStandard > > /bin is specified to hold "essential" programs. > /sbin is its add-on for

Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, mick crane wrote: > have a look in /usr/bin ? Not to forget /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin : https://wiki.debian.org/FilesystemHierarchyStandard /bin is specified to hold "essential" programs. /sbin is its add-on for system administrators. /usr/bin + /usr/sbin together hold nearly 4000 files on m

Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Thakur Mahashaya
are you sure this is the place? there's some programs that I listed for example and use. 25.09.2018, 12:48, "mick crane" : > On 2018-09-25 10:08, Thakur Mahashaya wrote: >>  Hi! >>  Please tell me what is the list of standard utilities in >>  Debian?wget, apt, curl, transport-https, sources.l

Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Thakur Mahashaya
no trick to be honest 25.09.2018, 12:46, "Thomas Schmitt" : > Hi, > > Thakur Mahashaya wrote: >>  Please tell me what is the list of standard utilities in Debian? > > If this is a trick question: Good one. It makes me think. > > A standard utility is supposed to be installed often. The popularity

Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread mick crane
On 2018-09-25 10:08, Thakur Mahashaya wrote: Hi! Please tell me what is the list of standard utilities in Debian?wget, apt, curl, transport-https, sources.list, man, dd, sha256sum,..what else? have a look in /usr/bin ? mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Thakur Mahashaya wrote: > Please tell me what is the list of standard utilities in Debian? If this is a trick question: Good one. It makes me think. A standard utility is supposed to be installed often. The popularity of Debian packages is ranked at https://popcon.debian.org/by_inst A pa

Re: Utilities for keeping time sync for a machine behind a firewall ?

1999-10-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
Shaul Karl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I am behind a firewall. > What utilities are there that will let me keep the time synchronized with > another machine on the Internet ? Ouch. Your best bet would be to ask your firewall administrator to synchronize the firewall with NTP, and then to synch

Re: Utilities for keeping time sync for a machine behind a firewall ?

1999-10-28 Thread Joe Block
Patrick Kirk wrote: > > xntp3 is excellent. Just type apt-get install xntp3 and it will take you > through configuration. If you need a server, try salmon.math.tcd.ie and > sundial.columbia.edu tick.usno.navy.mil tock.usno.navy.mil Easier to remember :-) jpb -- Joe Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Utilities for keeping time sync for a machine behind a firewall ?

1999-10-28 Thread Patrick Kirk
xntp3 is excellent. Just type apt-get install xntp3 and it will take you through configuration. If you need a server, try salmon.math.tcd.ie and sundial.columbia.edu Patrick - Original Message - From: Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 10:49 AM Subject:

RE: Utilities for keeping time sync for a machine behind a firewall ?

1999-10-28 Thread Paul McHale
I added the following command to my root crontab (type: crontab -e): 1 0 * * * /usr/sbin/rdate ntp2.usno.navy.mil >> $HOME/tmp/out 2>&1 This updates the local clock once a day which is more than is probably needed ... Take out the ">> $HOME/tmp/out 2>&1" and root will get a mail message whe