Hi,
I wonder if koffie is not a subscriber to debian-user and so has not
seen any of the replies here to their mail?
Below is a direct copy of perhaps the most helpful one, but the bottom
line is: you need to use an Ubuntu support forum for Ubuntu help, not a
Debian one.
Thanks,
Andy
On Sun, De
On 4/7/21, Dan Ritter wrote:
>> riveravaldez wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I was under the impression that (besides being fully open) Flatpak
>> had
>> better confinement method that Canonical's Snap, anybody knows if this is
>> correct?
>
> "Two years ago I wrote about then heavily-pushed Flatpak,
> self-proc
On 4/9/21 9:26 PM, Brian wrote:
In response to this well-argued post: which is less risky when not
installing a package from the archives?
* Install the vendor .deb.
* Install from the snap store.
Both are providing about the same level of isolation. One can make more
bad things with you
On 4/6/21 2:49 PM, Brian wrote:
On Tue 06 Apr 2021 at 11:20:58 +0200, Yoann LE BARS wrote:
Hello everybody out there!
On 2021/04/06 at 01:53 am, Paul Johnson wrote:
There's nothing user-unfriendly about .debs. They just don't want to
maintain their software and are looking for a "fire and fo
On Fri, 09 Apr 2021 21:30:45 +0200
Linux-Fan wrote:
> Celejar writes:
>
> > On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 20:48:01 +0300
> > Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > > On Vi, 09 apr 21, 08:02:46, Celejar wrote:
> > > > What about cases where the software simply isn't in Debian at all?
> > > > Recently, I've used Int
Celejar writes:
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 20:48:01 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 09 apr 21, 08:02:46, Celejar wrote:
> > What about cases where the software simply isn't in Debian at all?
> > Recently, I've used IntelliJ IDEA and Android Studio, and I'd like to
> > set up an OwnCloud server wh
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 20:48:01 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 09 apr 21, 08:02:46, Celejar wrote:
> >
> > What about cases where the software simply isn't in Debian at all?
> > Recently, I've used IntelliJ IDEA and Android Studio, and I'd like to
> > set up an OwnCloud server when I get a cha
On Fri 09 Apr 2021 at 20:43:58 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 09 apr 21, 06:34:32, riveravaldez wrote:
> > On 4/9/21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > >
> > > Is it really unavoidable? Or just a tad less convenient?
> >
> > Well, that's a pretty subjective issue, to be honest... ;)
> >
> > >
On Vi, 09 apr 21, 08:02:46, Celejar wrote:
>
> What about cases where the software simply isn't in Debian at all?
> Recently, I've used IntelliJ IDEA and Android Studio, and I'd like to
> set up an OwnCloud server when I get a chance. These, and many other
> complex / fast-changing applications ar
On Vi, 09 apr 21, 06:34:32, riveravaldez wrote:
> On 4/9/21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >
> > Is it really unavoidable? Or just a tad less convenient?
>
> Well, that's a pretty subjective issue, to be honest... ;)
>
> > Can you pose one concrete use case where it is unavoidable?
>
> Not sure if
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 08:23:59PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 09 apr 21, 13:39:27, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 01:09:31PM +0200, Yoann LE BARS wrote:
> > >
> > > Now, I have develop a few small applications who do not have much users
> > > and are not in the po
On Vi, 09 apr 21, 13:39:27, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 01:09:31PM +0200, Yoann LE BARS wrote:
> >
> > Now, I have develop a few small applications who do not have much users
> > and are not in the position to integrate the distribution. For the few
> > users of these pro
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 11:01:13AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > But I'll bitch and moan loudly to my interlocutor.
>
> Good.
>
> > Perhaps I'll lie and say that I've got just a telephone or something.
>
> Better not: better tell them clearly why you refuse to use that tool.
I forgot the ton
Hello everybody out there!
On 2021/04/09 at 2:51 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> I still love the classical distro model: a stable base which doesn't
> move too quickly (and thus doesn't require much of my attention),
> which is well-vetted by maintainers (*thank you so much*), and a
> cou
Hello everybody out there!
On 2021/04/09 at 2:45 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> But that only really works out when the customer is nearly all-Debian,
> which this one is.
Like I said: not all the users are on Debian.
Best regards.
--
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https://le-bars.net/yoann/
D
> But I'll bitch and moan loudly to my interlocutor.
Good.
> Perhaps I'll lie and say that I've got just a telephone or something.
Better not: better tell them clearly why you refuse to use that tool.
We have a duty to educate, I think.
Stefan
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 08:12:35 -0600
Charles Curley wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 15:39:23 +0200
> to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> > > Sorry, I meant NextCloud
> >
> > I see. I kept myself confusing those two for a while.
> >
> > AFAIK it's packaged in Debian? Too old?
>
> I use the zip package from
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 09:43:47AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2021-04-09 at 09:39, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 09:28:15AM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >> Sorry, I meant NextCloud
> >
> > I see. I kept myself confusing those two for a while.
> >
> > A
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 15:39:23 +0200
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 09:28:15AM -0400, Celejar wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Sorry, I meant NextCloud
>
> I see. I kept myself confusing those two for a while.
>
> AFAIK it's packaged in Debian? Too old?
The client is, but the server isn
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 15:39:23 +0200
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > Sorry, I meant NextCloud
>
> I see. I kept myself confusing those two for a while.
>
> AFAIK it's packaged in Debian? Too old?
I use the zip package from the NextCloud web site. Once you do the
manual install, it will update itself
On 2021-04-09 at 09:39, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 09:28:15AM -0400, Celejar wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Sorry, I meant NextCloud
>
> I see. I kept myself confusing those two for a while.
>
> AFAIK it's packaged in Debian? Too old?
What package are you thinking of?
When I 'a
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 09:28:15AM -0400, Celejar wrote:
[...]
> Sorry, I meant NextCloud
I see. I kept myself confusing those two for a while.
AFAIK it's packaged in Debian? Too old?
> > I still love the classical distro model [...]
> I fully agree, but the fact is that some really useful so
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 02:07:33PM +0100, Joe wrote:
[...]
> There's a lot to be said for web applications [...]
Not my cup of tea. As a user, I downright *hate* them. As a devel
(I'm currently working on such a PHP/Javascript nightmare myself),
I pity the users.
But there must be cup-of-teas f
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 14:51:29 +0200
wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 08:02:46AM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> > On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 09:21:49 +0200
> > wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > Can you pose one concrete use case where it is unavoidable?
> >
> > What about cases where the software simply isn't in Debian
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 01:55:21PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 12:51:14 +0200
> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Capitalists are like that.
> >
>
> Non-capitalists (i.e. governments) don't need to be [...]
(responded in private, to avoid starting an OT flood :)
> > Up to now, I've avoided the
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 14:45:31 +0200
wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 01:48:44PM +0200, Yoann LE BARS wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Concerning my own applications (they use a free licence),
> > really, it is better not to engage any integration into Debian: it
> > is not worth the effort nor for me,
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 12:51:14 +0200
wrote:
>
> Capitalists are like that.
>
Non-capitalists (i.e. governments) don't need to be, they simply
imprison you if you don't do things their way. I still have a choice
whether to use Zoom, etc., or at least a choice whether to install it
on a computer I
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 08:02:46AM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 09:21:49 +0200
> wrote:
[...]
> > Can you pose one concrete use case where it is unavoidable?
>
> What about cases where the software simply isn't in Debian at all?
> Recently, I've used IntelliJ IDEA and Android Stud
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 01:48:44PM +0200, Yoann LE BARS wrote:
[...]
> Concerning my own applications (they use a free licence), really, it is
> better not to engage any integration into Debian: it is not worth the
> effort nor for me, my users and the distribution. You cannot integrate
> a
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 04:15:07 -0300
riveravaldez wrote:
...
> I'm still with the doubt. Even considering all this: which has better
> (or less-worse) confinement, Flatpak or Snap (or AppImage)?
>
> Trying to decide which is less-worse in a scenario of unavoidable
> use of some of these.
A third
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 09:21:49 +0200
wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 04:15:07AM -0300, riveravaldez wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Trying to decide which is less-worse in a scenario of unavoidable
> > use of some of these.
>
> Is it really unavoidable? Or just a tad less convenient?
>
> Can you pose on
Hello everybody out there!
On 2021/04/09 at 1:39 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>> I have found some bugs in Musescore that are corrected on a higher
>> version than the one available in stable.
>>
>> I need some functionalities available in Ardour 6, which is not
>> available in stable.
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 01:09:31PM +0200, Yoann LE BARS wrote:
>
> Hello everybody out there!
>
> On 2021/04/09 at 09:21 am, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > Can you pose one concrete use case where it is unavoidable?
>
> I have found some bugs in Musescore that are corrected on a higher
> vers
Hello everybody out there!
On 2021/04/09 at 09:21 am, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> Can you pose one concrete use case where it is unavoidable?
I have found some bugs in Musescore that are corrected on a higher
version than the one available in stable.
I need some functionalities a
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 06:34:32AM -0300, riveravaldez wrote:
> On 4/9/21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 04:15:07AM -0300, riveravaldez wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >> Trying to decide which is less-worse in a scenario of unavoidable
> >> use of some of these.
> >
> > Is it rea
On 4/9/21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 04:15:07AM -0300, riveravaldez wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Trying to decide which is less-worse in a scenario of unavoidable
>> use of some of these.
>
> Is it really unavoidable? Or just a tad less convenient?
Well, that's a pretty subjectiv
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 04:15:07AM -0300, riveravaldez wrote:
[...]
> Trying to decide which is less-worse in a scenario of unavoidable
> use of some of these.
Is it really unavoidable? Or just a tad less convenient?
Can you pose one concrete use case where it is unavoidable?
This may sound as
On 4/7/21, Dan Ritter wrote:
> riveravaldez wrote:
>> On Tuesday, April 6, 2021, Brian wrote:
>> > On Tue 06 Apr 2021 at 11:20:58 +0200, Yoann LE BARS wrote:
>> >
>> > I had occasion to install Zoom a few weeks ago;'snap install
>> > zoom-client'.
>> > Everything went smoothly and I quite like ha
riveravaldez wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 6, 2021, Brian wrote:
> > On Tue 06 Apr 2021 at 11:20:58 +0200, Yoann LE BARS wrote:
> >
> > I had occasion to install Zoom a few weeks ago;'snap install zoom-client'.
> > Everything went smoothly and I quite like having this proprietary package
> > strictl
On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 12:49:14 +0100
Brian wrote:
> On Tue 06 Apr 2021 at 11:20:58 +0200, Yoann LE BARS wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello everybody out there!
> >
> > On 2021/04/06 at 01:53 am, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > > There's nothing user-unfriendly about .debs. They just don't want to
> > > maintain the
On Tue 06 Apr 2021 at 11:20:58 +0200, Yoann LE BARS wrote:
>
> Hello everybody out there!
>
> On 2021/04/06 at 01:53 am, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > There's nothing user-unfriendly about .debs. They just don't want to
> > maintain their software and are looking for a "fire and forget"
> > solution.
Hello everybody out there!
On 2021/04/06 at 01:53 am, Paul Johnson wrote:
> There's nothing user-unfriendly about .debs. They just don't want to
> maintain their software and are looking for a "fire and forget"
> solution. I can't see this as anything but a bad thing, something the
> world can
On 4/5/21 4:53 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 11:39 AM George Shuklin
mailto:george.shuk...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It looks to me like they desperately want to jump away from debs into
'vendor friendly packaging'
There's nothing user-unfriendly about .debs. They just don
On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 11:39 AM George Shuklin
wrote:
> It looks to me like they desperately want to jump away from debs into
> 'vendor friendly packaging'
>
There's nothing user-unfriendly about .debs. They just don't want to
maintain their software and are looking for a "fire and forget" solu
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 07:38:53PM +0300, George Shuklin wrote:
> I'd like to stir some debates.
>
> Ubuntu (which is 'enterprise friendly Debian with ambivalent feeling about
> free software') started to push snaps onto servers for real. It looks to me
> like they desperately want to jump away fr
On Tue 31 May 2016 at 09:07:18 +, Marcin Solski wrote:
> I'm starting to use Debian. Chosen testing for now to support my latest
> hardware. I also need to install home wireless printer/scanner. I've found
> drivers and application on manufacturer website (
> http://www.canon.pl/support/consum
dd
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On Vi, 30 nov 12, 14:47:48, "Morel Bérenger" wrote:
> > I could install Ubuntu one on my win7 but cannot
^
> > login to my account with it. It says: Login failed.
>
> You are installing another operating sy
- Original Message -
From: oxy
To: Debian User Lists
Sent: 11/30/2012 1:12:57 PM
Subject: Ubuntu one login @ Win7
Hi,
I could install Ubuntu one on my win7 but cannot
login to my account with it. It says: Login failed.
Also on ubuntu it was not quite free of problems,
but it
> I could install Ubuntu one on my win7 but cannot
> login to my account with it. It says: Login failed.
>
> Also on ubuntu it was not quite free of problems,
> but it worked.
>
> Does anyone here use ubuntu one on win7 or win xp?
>
>
> How is your experience?
>
>
> Is it a beta project?
Hum...
Ju
hey, sorry for this wrong post here ...
-- wrong post below --
Hi,
I could install Ubuntu one on my win7 but cannot
login to my account with it. It says: Login failed.
Also on ubuntu it was not quite free of problems,
but it worked.
Does anyone here use ubuntu one on win7 or
* On 2012 29 Feb 11:30 -0600, Paula Keezer wrote:
> Nate, I thought I would share some thoughts with you on the logistics
> of building a logging program, contest or or otherwise.
Hi Paula.
> As the author of the very first windows based logging program back in
> 1989 (logview, rigview, hamvie
Nate, I thought I would share some thoughts with you on the logistics of
building a logging program, contest or or otherwise.
As the author of the very first windows based logging program back in 1989
(logview, rigview, hamview and packview) I can tell you that developing and
keeping a loggi
Nate,
Good luck on this. If it was me, and I've thought about it from time to
time, I would have done it in Python first. The syntax and high level
aspects are so much easier than C/C++ IMO, and execution speed probably
isn't critical.
It seems that logging is a very personal thing. I haven't f
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:07:32AM BST, Darac Marjal wrote:
> Given the usual naming conventions, I would expect it to be either
> debian-user-engl...@lists.debian.org or debian-engl...@lists.debian.org
> (I'm not sure why there is debian-user-$LANG and debian-$LANG, but it
> may just be that, for
> From: mailingl...@darac.org.uk
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:41:34AM +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> > On 25/10/11 11:23, Luca Cappelletti wrote:
> > >2011/10/25 Mauro
> > >...
> >
> > I appear to have subscribed to the wrong mail list. Can anyone here
> > point me at the ENGLISH DEBIAN list,
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:41, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> On 25/10/11 11:23, Luca Cappelletti wrote:
>
>> 2011/10/25 Mauro
>> ...
>>
>
> I appear to have subscribed to the wrong mail list. Can anyone here point
> me at the ENGLISH DEBIAN list, please.
>
>
Sorry!!!
My fault, really sorry...
I canno
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:41:34AM +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> On 25/10/11 11:23, Luca Cappelletti wrote:
> >2011/10/25 Mauro
> >...
>
> I appear to have subscribed to the wrong mail list. Can anyone here
> point me at the ENGLISH DEBIAN list, please.
Given the usual naming conventions, I w
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2011/10/25 Mauro
...
> A dire il vero ho sempre usato sid.
> Ricordo i primi tempi in cui alle volte dava veramente del filo da
> torcere per farla funzionare da qualche anno invece sid non e' piu'
> cosi' cattiva e non ho mai avuto un problema.
>
>
ah ma certo se già la usi e ne hai confidenza a
2011/10/25 Luca Cappelletti :
> 2011/10/25 Mauro
>>
>> Qui lo usate in molti vero?
>> Mi hanno dato un nuovo portatile che usero' per sviluppo ecc. e non so
>> se metterci sid o ubuntu.
>> Che mi suggerite?
>>
>
> Installa tranquillamente Wheezy (assicurati nei repo che sia wheezy e non
> testing
2011/10/25 Mauro
> Qui lo usate in molti vero?
> Mi hanno dato un nuovo portatile che usero' per sviluppo ecc. e non so
> se metterci sid o ubuntu.
> Che mi suggerite?
>
>
Installa tranquillamente Wheezy (assicurati nei repo che sia wheezy e non
testing cosi atterri direttamente nella prossima st
On 04/25/2011 03:14 PM, Steven Rosenberg wrote:
> On 04/21/2011 03:14 AM, David Sanders wrote:
>> Hello List,
>>
>> I'm just returning to Debian after a long absence over in Ubuntu land.
>> The upcoming train-crash that is the Unity UI, and some over-political
<--deleted-->
>
> I personally woul
On 04/21/2011 03:14 AM, David Sanders wrote:
Hello List,
I'm just returning to Debian after a long absence over in Ubuntu land.
The upcoming train-crash that is the Unity UI, and some over-political
decision making in the community has led me to jump back to a more
sensible and technology-led di
On 23/04/11 05:24, teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
George Standish said:
Ubuntu regularly has issues upgrading from one version to another, now
you expect it to "upgrade" to a new distro... This idea doesn't seem
like a good idea to me.
-
I agree with this assessment though any ubuntu
On Jo, 21 apr 11, 11:55:05, George Standish wrote:
> On 21/04/11 06:14 AM, David Sanders wrote:
>
> >So, a small question - How suicidal is crossgrading back to Debian by
> >altering my APT sources?
>
> I was interested if this had any chance of working, so I tried in a
> VM to go from Ubuntu 10.
On 23 April 2011 04:24, wrote:
> George Standish said:
>
>
> Ubuntu regularly has issues upgrading from one version to another, now
> you expect it to "upgrade" to a new distro... This idea doesn't seem
> like a good idea to me.
>
In fairness to Ubuntu, I've been dist-upgrading since 8.10, and t
George Standish said:
Ubuntu regularly has issues upgrading from one version to another, now
you expect it to "upgrade" to a new distro... This idea doesn't seem
like a good idea to me.
-
I agree with this assessment though any ubuntu head will challenge any
statement like this with such
On 21/04/11 12:04 PM, shawn wilson wrote:
if you still have that vm up
:( No sorry, I've deleted it already. I couldn't even boot up the
system in recovery mode.
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On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:55 AM, George Standish
wrote:
> On 21/04/11 06:14 AM, David Sanders wrote:
>
>> So, a small question - How suicidal is crossgrading back to Debian by
>> altering my APT sources?
>
> I was interested if this had any chance of working, so
On 21/04/11 06:14 AM, David Sanders wrote:
So, a small question - How suicidal is crossgrading back to Debian by
altering my APT sources?
I was interested if this had any chance of working, so I tried in a VM
to go from Ubuntu 10.10 to Squeeze. I failed miserably (possibly due to
user error
On 21/04/11 06:14 AM, David Sanders wrote:
The upcoming train-crash that is the Unity UI, and some over-political
decision making in the community has led me to jump back to a more
sensible and technology-led distro..
Unity is what brought me to Debian. Recent Canonical decisions only
encour
> Really I think you'll have to bite the bullet and take it as it comes. But
> I'm not an expert by any means
That appears to be the case :-)
You may hear my screams on the list later today!
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David Sanders said:
So, a small question - How suicidal is crossgrading back to Debian by
altering my APT sources? I've seen a few blogs saying it works, and I
do have a lot of customised stuff on my main laptop which I'd prefer
not to have to recompile. I'm pretty technically-adept and don't mind
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 07:08:54AM -0400, Tom H wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Tom H wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
> > wrote:
> >> In , Tom H wrote:
> >>>On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
>
> With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Tom H wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
> wrote:
>> In , Tom H wrote:
>>>On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "5 years for a server" and "3 years for
a desktop" if you go with
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
wrote:
> In , Tom H wrote:
>>On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
>>>
>>> With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "5 years for a server" and "3 years for
>>> a desktop" if you go with an LTS release. What packages are server
>>> packages
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/06/2011 06:39 PM, Tom H wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
>>>
>>> With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "5 years for a server" and "3 years for
>>> a desktop" if you go with an LTS release. What packages are server
>>>
In , Tom H wrote:
>On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
>> With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "5 years for a server" and "3 years for
>> a desktop" if you go with an LTS release. What packages are server
>> packages and what ones are desktop packages?
>
>Server = X-less so WM-less, DE-les
In <20110406231712.gb7...@aurora.owens.net>, Rob Owens wrote:
>With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "5 years for a server" and "3 years for
>a desktop" if you go with an LTS release. What packages are server
>packages and what ones are desktop packages?
According to documents on Canonical's site, ther
Hello,
On 07/04/11 01:58, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/06/2011 06:39 PM, Tom H wrote:
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "5 years for a server" and "3 years for
a desktop" if you go with an LTS release. What packages are server
packages and what ones
On 04/06/2011 06:39 PM, Tom H wrote:
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "5 years for a server" and "3 years for
a desktop" if you go with an LTS release. What packages are server
packages and what ones are desktop packages? I don't know. It would b
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
>
> With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "5 years for a server" and "3 years for
> a desktop" if you go with an LTS release. What packages are server
> packages and what ones are desktop packages? I don't know. It would be
> nice to see a list somewhere.
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 06:15:26PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/05/2011 05:37 PM, Mark wrote:
> [snip]
> >upgrading. For all its flaws, one nice thing about Windows is that it
> >has a 10-year (14-year for XP) support cycle, so while there may be
> >service packs, etc., to the end user, the i
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 03:37:16PM -0700, Mark wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Freeman wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 03:03:41PM -0400, Matt Harrison wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
> > > wrote:
> > > > On 2011-04-05 12:24:39 Matt Harrison wrote
On Apr 5, 2011, at 7:15 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/05/2011 05:37 PM, Mark wrote:
> [snip]
>> upgrading. For all its flaws, one nice thing about Windows is that it
>> has a 10-year (14-year for XP) support cycle, so while there may be
>> service packs, etc., to the end user, the interface is
In , Tom H wrote:
>On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
> wrote:
>> Someone that doesn't necessarily want to upgrade on Debian's schedule.
>> With Ubuntu, you can get 5 years, as opposed to Debian's ~3 years. With
>> SLE* you can get 10 years. I'm not sure about RHEL, but I thi
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 06:15:26PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/05/2011 05:37 PM, Mark wrote:
> [snip]
> >upgrading. For all its flaws, one nice thing about Windows is that it
> >has a 10-year (14-year for XP) support cycle, so while there may be
> >service packs, etc., to the end user, the i
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 03:37:16PM -0700, Mark wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Freeman wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 03:03:41PM -0400, Matt Harrison wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > All fine pointshere you go:
> > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
On 04/05/2011 05:37 PM, Mark wrote:
[snip]
upgrading. For all its flaws, one nice thing about Windows is that it
has a 10-year (14-year for XP) support cycle, so while there may be
service packs, etc., to the end user, the interface is virtually the
same for 10 years. I realize that not upgradin
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
wrote:
>
> Someone that doesn't necessarily want to upgrade on Debian's schedule. With
> Ubuntu, you can get 5 years, as opposed to Debian's ~3 years. With SLE* you
> can get 10 years. I'm not sure about RHEL, but I think it is roughly a SL
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
wrote:
>
> 10. Can I install server packages on an Ubuntu Desktop installation
> and vice versa?
>
> Yes – Ubuntu’s flexibility makes it easy. The Ubuntu software repositories
> do not isolate packages to particular types of deployments. All th
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Freeman wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 03:03:41PM -0400, Matt Harrison wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
> > wrote:
> > > On 2011-04-05 12:24:39 Matt Harrison wrote:
> > >>
> > >>Are we seriously going to argue about which version
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 03:03:41PM -0400, Matt Harrison wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
> wrote:
> > On 2011-04-05 12:24:39 Matt Harrison wrote:
> >>
> >>Are we seriously going to argue about which version of Ubuntu is
> >>supported for how long?
> >
> > I think it
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
wrote:
> On 2011-04-05 12:24:39 Matt Harrison wrote:
>>On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
>> wrote:
>>> On 2011-04-05 12:07:16 George Standish wrote:
On 05/04/11 01:04 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On 2011-04-
On 2011-04-05 12:24:39 Matt Harrison wrote:
>On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
> wrote:
>> On 2011-04-05 12:07:16 George Standish wrote:
>>>On 05/04/11 01:04 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On 2011-04-05 11:51:13 George Standish wrote:
>> If you need more support tha
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
wrote:
> On 2011-04-05 12:07:16 George Standish wrote:
>>On 05/04/11 01:04 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>>> On 2011-04-05 11:51:13 George Standish wrote:
> If you need more support than Debian provides and<= 5 years, install an
>
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 07:32:39PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Wednesday 26 January 2011 17:20:05 Rob Owens wrote:
> > [M]aybe there is a way to convince apt/aptitude
> > to tell you what applications were installed purposedly (not
> > automatically installed to resolve dependencies).
On 2011-01-27 00:20, Rob Owens wrote:
> I would try to get a list of those applications that you really care
> about.
I fully agree with Rob, having done what you want to do already several
times.
- the selections and print them
- use an old-school pencil to mark what you want
- install your new
On Wednesday 26 January 2011 17:20:05 Rob Owens wrote:
> [M]aybe there is a way to convince apt/aptitude
> to tell you what applications were installed purposedly (not
> automatically installed to resolve dependencies).
aptitude search '~i!~M'
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