On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 14:51:29 +0200
<to...@tuxteam.de> wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 08:02:46AM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> > On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 09:21:49 +0200
> > <to...@tuxteam.de> wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > Can you pose one concrete use case where it is unavoidable?
> > 
> > What about cases where the software simply isn't in Debian at all?
> > Recently, I've used IntelliJ IDEA and Android Studio [...]
> 
> I see. I'm more of an Emacs guy, so I lack some experience in
> that department, I admit.
> 
> > and I'd like to
> > set up an OwnCloud server when I get a chance.
> 
> Why not NextCloud? It seems that it is there where the action is
> taking place these days.

Sorry, I meant NextCloud - I sometimes forget which was the original
and which is the later and greater version. I suppose that the word
"next" should make it easy to remember ;)

> > These, and many other
> > complex / fast-changing applications aren't in Debian, but are
> > available in containerized app formats.
> 
> Yes, fast-changing is a bad match for the "classical distro" model.
> 
> I still love the classical distro model: a stable base which doesn't
> move too quickly (and thus doesn't require much of my attention),
> which is well-vetted by maintainers (*thank you so much*), and a
> couple of apps I particularly care about which I do build myself
> from time to time.

I fully agree, but the fact is that some really useful software just
doesn't fit into the classic distro model. In addition to the examples
I've given, there are also the main FLOSS Zoom alternatives we've
discussed in previous threads: Jitsi, BigBlueButton, etc.

> I understand that my "model" won't be everyone's, though.
> 
> That's why I asked for other people's experiences.

Celejar

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