Re: Reply to list vs. group reply [was: Inlclusive terminology...]

2024-02-25 Thread Geert Stappers
Summary: exposing a troll On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 10:48:17AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 10:35:33AM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: > } troll tomas wrote: > } } I think I'm out of it. *Plonk* > [Adjusting the topic] > > > For keeping that promise would it be better t

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

2021-08-12 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-12 1:17 p.m., Nicolas George wrote: > Curt (12021-08-12): >> Certainly. But you did volunteer to comment on a conflictual discussion >> between a mere pair of users, both of whom violated the Debian mailing >> list rules. Of these two violations, why you chose to call out the >> inn

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

2021-08-12 Thread Brian
On Thu 12 Aug 2021 at 19:17:42 +0200, Nicolas George wrote: [...] > My next mail in this thread will be to give an account of the > configuration of the printer, but it will have to wait a little that I > have upgraded the relevant host to Bullseye. Personally, I look forward to that. Please try

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

2021-08-12 Thread Nicolas George
Curt (12021-08-12): > Certainly. But you did volunteer to comment on a conflictual discussion > between a mere pair of users, both of whom violated the Debian mailing > list rules. Of these two violations, why you chose to call out the > innocuous one, for which a reasonable explanation was given,

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

2021-08-12 Thread Curt
On 2021-08-12, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 12:36:46PM -, Curt wrote: >>He was also quite wrong, which you fail to point out in all your >>admirably enthusiastic rectitude > > I don't have the spoons to police every poster to the list. I'm fairly Certainly. But you did vo

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

2021-08-12 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 12:36:46PM -, Curt wrote: He was also quite wrong, which you fail to point out in all your admirably enthusiastic rectitude I don't have the spoons to police every poster to the list. I'm fairly sure I've gone a few rounds with Nicolas myself, in the past. If your po

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

2021-08-11 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Wed, 11 Aug 2021, Charles Curley wrote: The signal to noise ratio is getting pretty bad around here. "Around here?" Every poster brings to the list a bit of the world-at-large as they are experiencing it. This occurs quite outside of conscious control. It is pre-reflective behaviour. Can

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

2021-08-11 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 11/08/2021 12:25, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 11 August 2021 04:02:14 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Debian is about choice Polyna. That is mine. Quit monopolizing the conversation unless you are helping the user SOLVE his/her problem. +1 -- Tony van der Hoff| mai

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

2021-08-11 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 11 Aug 2021 07:25:40 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > Speaking as one user who would like to see this list go back to being > a place where howto questions are answered by folks with intimate > knowledge of how its done, an educational resource, ... Hear, hear! Well and timely said, Gene. T

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

2021-08-11 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 06:07:21AM -0700, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > On 8/11/21 5:02 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > > > > >On 11/08/2021 12:25, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>On Wednesday 11 August 2021 04:02:14 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > >>wrote: > > > >>Debian is about choice Polyna. That is mine

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

2021-08-11 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 12:23:53PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2021-08-11, wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 07:25:40AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> This is a mailing list, one I've been subbed to for at least a decade. It > >> has rules, often violated without realizing it.

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

2021-08-11 Thread Dan Ritter
Gene Heskett wrote: > Speaking as one user who would like to see this list go back to being a > place where howto questions are answered by folks with intimate > knowledge of how its done, an educational resource, even having healthy > arguments about methods because we are social creatures and

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

2021-08-11 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 8/11/21 5:02 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 11/08/2021 12:25, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 11 August 2021 04:02:14 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Debian is about choice Polyna. That is mine. Quit monopolizing the conversation unless you are helping the user SOLVE his/her p

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

2021-08-11 Thread Curt
On 2021-08-11, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 04:02:14AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: >>Seems like kindness or understanding on the flexibility or some rules >>are hard to understand. >> >>I've got told it is okay to act this way on this list because of the >

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

2021-08-11 Thread Curt
On 2021-08-11, wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 07:25:40AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > >> This is a mailing list, one I've been subbed to for at least a decade. It >> has rules, often violated without realizing it. You come roaring in here > > Agreed. Less roaring would be... nicer.

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

2021-08-11 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 07:25:40AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > This is a mailing list, one I've been subbed to for at least a decade. It > has rules, often violated without realizing it. You come roaring in here [...] Agreed. Less roaring would be... nicer. For all of us :-) Cheers -

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

2021-08-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 11 August 2021 04:02:14 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-11 3:49 a.m., Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > > On 8/11/21, Nicolas George wrote: > >> Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside (12021-08-11): > >>> Sorry if this annoyed yourself but a long time Debian user of thi

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

2021-08-11 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 04:02:14AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Seems like kindness or understanding on the flexibility or some rules are hard to understand. I've got told it is okay to act this way on this list because of the number of user who post without being subscriber.

Re: End of the line [ was Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)]

2021-08-11 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-11 4:01 a.m., Nicolas George wrote: > Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside (12021-08-11): >> Great for you, I find it rude and offensive. >> >> You may think it's wrong > > I did not THINK it is wron, I quoted to you the rules of this mailing > that state explicitly it is wrong. > Rule

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

2021-08-11 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-11 3:49 a.m., Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > On 8/11/21, Nicolas George wrote: >> Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside (12021-08-11): >>> Sorry if this annoyed yourself but a long time Debian user of this >>> mailing list, who could also be considered "part of Debian" gave me the >>> hint of

Re: End of the line [ was Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)]

2021-08-11 Thread Nicolas George
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside (12021-08-11): > Great for you, I find it rude and offensive. > > You may think it's wrong I did not THINK it is wron, I quoted to you the rules of this mailing that state explicitly it is wrong. > The first message I've answered you was sent in CC, that's all.

End of the line [ was Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)]

2021-08-11 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-11 3:41 a.m., Nicolas George wrote: > Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside (12021-08-11): >> Sorry if this annoyed yourself but a long time Debian user of this >> mailing list, who could also be considered "part of Debian" gave me the >> hint of replying directly to the user when it come

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

2021-08-11 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 8/11/21, Nicolas George wrote: > Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside (12021-08-11): >> Sorry if this annoyed yourself but a long time Debian user of this >> mailing list, who could also be considered "part of Debian" gave me the >> hint of replying directly to the user when it comes to this mailing

Re: Reply semantics, yet again (was Re: Zoom- best practice?)

2020-06-11 Thread Nicolas George
[ It comes back to Jitsi and its license after a few paragraphs. And it is appalling. ] The Wanderer (12020-06-10): > What's with the stray 1, here? We are in 12020 HE = 2020 CE, HE stands for Holocene Era, or possibly Human Era, it is just shifted by 1 from the Common Era. As a consequence,

Re: Reply to a message in the Web presentation.

2020-02-12 Thread tomas
On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 11:08:36AM -0800, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > * From: David Wright > * Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 14:10:10 -0600 > > Er, there was at least one posted here within the last week: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/02/msg00189.html > > That's just one that happe

Re: Reply to a message in the Web presentation.

2020-02-12 Thread peter
* From: David Wright * Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 14:10:10 -0600 > Er, there was at least one posted here within the last week: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/02/msg00189.html > That's just one that happened to still be in my inbox. Interesting, thanks. Does the header show

Re: Reply to a message in the Web presentation.

2020-02-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 11 feb 20, 10:53:45, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > Thanks for challenging my claim. Without your reply I probably > wouldn't have made the test. That was certainly not my intention, so I apologize to the list for the additional traffic. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FA

Re: Reply to a message in the Web presentation.

2020-02-11 Thread David Wright
On Tue 11 Feb 2020 at 07:36:49 (-0800), pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > * From: Andrei POPESCU > * Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2020 21:43:11 +0200 > > Without In-Reply-To a mail reader has no way to which message the reply > > belongs, so it's more important than References. > > Please look at the W

Re: Reply to a message in the Web presentation.

2020-02-11 Thread David Wright
On Tue 11 Feb 2020 at 10:53:45 (-0800), pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > Now we can see the result of the test. > > Messages > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/02/msg00416.html > and > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/02/msg00420.html > both thread back to your reply which threads

Re: Reply to a message in the Web presentation.

2020-02-11 Thread peter
Andrei, Now we can see the result of the test. Messages https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/02/msg00416.html and https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/02/msg00420.html both thread back to your reply which threads back to my original message. They have the same References. 416 was i

Re: Reply to a message in the Web presentation.

2020-02-11 Thread Henning Follmann
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 07:49:42AM -0800, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > This is a deliberate 2nd copy of a message. In-Reply-To is omitted > from the header to test threading. > > Well you've proven your point. My MUA does indeed thread this in the correct order. However, what actually is your poi

Re: Reply to a message in the Web presentation.

2020-02-11 Thread peter
This is a deliberate 2nd copy of a message. In-Reply-To is omitted from the header to test threading. Andrei, * From: Andrei POPESCU * Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2020 21:43:11 +0200 > Without In-Reply-To a mail reader has no way to which message the reply > belongs, so it's more important

Re: Reply to a message in the Web presentation.

2020-02-11 Thread peter
Andrei, * From: Andrei POPESCU * Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2020 21:43:11 +0200 > Without In-Reply-To a mail reader has no way to which message the reply > belongs, so it's more important than References. Please look at the Web view of your reply. (If your mailer linkifies this URL, click

Re: Reply to a message in the Web presentation.

2020-02-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 10 feb 20, 10:36:18, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > Given that References includes the In-Reply-To identifier, I'm not > sure In-Reply-To is necessary for threading. Without In-Reply-To a mail reader has no way to which message the reply belongs, so it's more important than References.

Re: Reply-default etiquette (was Re: KISS gpg)

2019-11-03 Thread Joe
On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 22:00:39 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 31 oct 19, 11:55:01, The Wanderer wrote: > > > > (IMO the correct behavior should be chosen automatically by > > "reply", and there should be separate "reply to sender", "reply to > > all", and "reply to list" options in the client

Re: Reply-default etiquette (was Re: KISS gpg)

2019-11-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 31 oct 19, 11:55:01, The Wanderer wrote: > > (IMO the correct behavior should be chosen automatically by "reply", and > there should be separate "reply to sender", "reply to all", and "reply > to list" options in the client. I don't know of anything which > implements that, however.) I see

Re: Reply-default etiquette (was Re: KISS gpg)

2019-10-31 Thread Nicolas George
Gene Heskett (12019-10-31): > And this is something that the kmail of yore, now forked to TDE, makes > simple. If you sort incoming mail to list yy in its own folder, then it > is sufficient to name that list in the folder definitions. I've been > doing that for so long I'd consider any email a

Re: Reply-default etiquette (was Re: KISS gpg)

2019-10-31 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 31 October 2019 12:10:01 Nicolas George wrote: > The Wanderer (12019-10-31): > > IMO, the correct behavior should indeed be the same for lists as for > > private mail: reply to the source from which you received the > > message. > > ... and everybody who got it too. > > For example, if

Re: Reply-default etiquette (was Re: KISS gpg)

2019-10-31 Thread Nicolas George
Andrew McGlashan (12019-11-01): > Do you also have "ignore list-post:" in your muttrc ? Of course not. What a strange question: the ignore directive is for display, not for controlling the recipients. In case you confused it with ignore_list_reply_to, look at the comment on its side: "Press L for

Re: Reply-default etiquette (was Re: KISS gpg)

2019-10-31 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 1/11/19 3:10 am, Nicolas George wrote: > Possible with Mutt: > > send-hook . "unmy_hdr Reply-To:" send-hook > ~cdebian-u...@lists.debian.org my_hdr "Reply-To: > debian-user@lists.debian.org" Do you also have "ignore list-post:" in your muttrc

Re: Reply-default etiquette (was Re: KISS gpg)

2019-10-31 Thread Nicolas George
The Wanderer (12019-10-31): > IMO, the correct behavior should indeed be the same for lists as for > private mail: reply to the source from which you received the message. ... and everybody who got it too. For example, if I reply to: # From: Colleague # To: Me # Cc: Boss it should be: # From:

Re: Reply semantics (was Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag)

2018-02-06 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2018-02-06 10:47:30 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2018-02-06 at 10:00, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2018-02-06 08:49:01 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > > > >> On 2018-02-06 at 08:18, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > >>> This is not contradictory with the setting of > >>> "Mail-Followup-To:". > >>

Re: Reply semantics (was Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag)

2018-02-06 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-02-06 at 10:00, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2018-02-06 08:49:01 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2018-02-06 at 08:18, Vincent Lefevre wrote: >>> This is not contradictory with the setting of >>> "Mail-Followup-To:". >> >> Arguably, if the mailing list does not default replies back to

Re: Reply semantics (was Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag)

2018-02-06 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2018-02-06 08:49:01 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2018-02-06 at 08:18, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2018-02-06 14:36:31 +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > >> On 06/02/18 02:11, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > >> > >>> You should set up a "Mail-Followup-To:" for that. This is > >>> entirely your problem

Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again

2017-06-10 Thread Fungi4All
From: joel.r...@gmail.com > And Now Google Doesn't Think Users Should Ever Set Headers. > Progress is progress. Yeah. Progress is progress. ahem. Sorry. I guess I forgot something. {irony}Progress is progress.{end-irony} -- Joel Rees If you live in a cave this may actually have some meaning amo

Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again

2017-06-10 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 10:52 PM, Fungi4All wrote: > UTC Time: June 10, 2017 2:13 AM > > From: joel.r...@gmail.com > > On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 12:57 AM, Nicolas George wrote: >> Le primidi 21 prairial, an CCXXV, The Wanderer a écrit : >>> Disagreed. This results in sending extra copies to people

Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again

2017-06-10 Thread Fungi4All
UTC Time: June 10, 2017 2:13 AM From: joel.r...@gmail.com On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 12:57 AM, Nicolas George wrote: > Le primidi 21 prairial, an CCXXV, The Wanderer a écrit : >> Disagreed. This results in sending extra copies to people who are >> subscribed to the list, which is incorrect. > > Not

Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again

2017-06-09 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 12:57 AM, Nicolas George wrote: > Le primidi 21 prairial, an CCXXV, The Wanderer a écrit : >> Disagreed. This results in sending extra copies to people who are >> subscribed to the list, which is incorrect. > > Not if the list is properly configured. > > Debian's lists are

Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again

2017-06-09 Thread The Wanderer
On 2017-06-09 at 11:57, Nicolas George wrote: > Le primidi 21 prairial, an CCXXV, The Wanderer a écrit : > >> Disagreed. This results in sending extra copies to people who are >> subscribed to the list, which is incorrect. > > Not if the list is properly configured. What configuration would avoi

Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again

2017-06-09 Thread Nicolas George
Le primidi 21 prairial, an CCXXV, The Wanderer a écrit : > Disagreed. This results in sending extra copies to people who are > subscribed to the list, which is incorrect. Not if the list is properly configured. Debian's lists are badly configured, it results in burden to all users, but the users

Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again (was: https_port)

2017-06-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 09 June 2017 10:47:29 Nicolas George wrote: > Le primidi 21 prairial, an CCXXV, Charlie Kravetz a écrit : > > When replying to the mailing list, hit reply. Do not use "Reply to > > All", since that sends individual emails to the person you are > > answering. > > This recommendation is un

Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again (was: https_port)

2017-06-09 Thread Fungi4All
UTC Time: June 9, 2017 2:47 PM From: geo...@nsup.org To: Charlie Kravetz debian-user@lists.debian.org Le primidi 21 prairial, an CCXXV, Charlie Kravetz a écrit : > When replying to the mailing list, hit reply. Do not use "Reply to > All", since that sends individual emails to the person you are >

Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again

2017-06-09 Thread The Wanderer
On 2017-06-09 at 10:47, Nicolas George wrote: > Le primidi 21 prairial, an CCXXV, Charlie Kravetz a écrit : > >> When replying to the mailing list, hit reply. Do not use "Reply to >> All", since that sends individual emails to the person you are >> answering. > > This recommendation is unsustain

Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work

2014-06-27 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 1:38 PM, wrote: > On Sun, 22 Jun 2014, Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Bret Busby wrote: >>> On Fri, 20 Jun 2014, Bob Proulx wrote: This is one of those religious wars that has been fought and won and lost many times across the Internet. Pl

Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work

2014-06-26 Thread davidson
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote: have you looked at alpine's roles? Main menu > Setup > Roles. Correction: Main menu > Setup > *Rules* > Roles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work

2014-06-26 Thread davidson
Hi Bret. On Wed, 18 Jun 2014, Bret Busby wrote: On 18/06/2014, Steve Litt wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 00:28:45 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: Now, if only the list defaulted to "Reply To List", it would be good, and, make replying to the list, easier... As far as I know, it does. As far as I kno

Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work

2014-06-24 Thread Bret Busby
On 23/06/2014, Bob Proulx wrote: > Bret Busby wrote: >> Tom H wrote: >> > Bret Busby wrote: >> >> Bob Proulx wrote: >> >>> This is one of those religious wars that has been fought and won and >> >>> lost many times across the Internet. Please don't start it up again >> >>> here. If you do really w

Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work

2014-06-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Bret Busby wrote: > Tom H wrote: > > Bret Busby wrote: > >> Bob Proulx wrote: > >>> This is one of those religious wars that has been fought and won and > >>> lost many times across the Internet. Please don't start it up again > >>> here. If you do really want to do so please use the off-topic mail

Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work

2014-06-22 Thread Bret Busby
On 23/06/2014, Tom H wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Bret Busby wrote: >> On Fri, 20 Jun 2014, Bob Proulx wrote: >>> >>> This is one of those religious wars that has been fought and won and >>> lost many times across the Internet. Please don't start it up again >>> here. If you do real

Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work

2014-06-22 Thread davidson
On Sun, 22 Jun 2014, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Bret Busby wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2014, Bob Proulx wrote: This is one of those religious wars that has been fought and won and lost many times across the Internet. Please don't start it up again here. If you do really want to

Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work

2014-06-22 Thread Bzzzz
On Sun, 22 Jun 2014 13:13:39 -0400 Tom H wrote: > Requesting that you take a religious-type discussion (like a list's > "Reply To" settings) to the OT list isn't trolling! Let's launch Troll-CD, a pure ubuntu distro on a USB key, multiple points of failure, etc. -- If we ping Santa, is there

Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work

2014-06-22 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Bret Busby wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jun 2014, Bob Proulx wrote: >> >> This is one of those religious wars that has been fought and won and >> lost many times across the Internet. Please don't start it up again >> here. If you do really want to do so please use the off-

Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work

2014-06-20 Thread Bret Busby
On Fri, 20 Jun 2014, Bob Proulx wrote: Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 14:53:14 From: Bob Proulx To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work Bret Busby wrote: email, for the latter, due to the power of PINE

Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work

2014-06-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Bret Busby wrote: > email, for the latter, due to the power of PINE), and both show no > presence of a Reply-To value having been set. This is one of those religious wars that has been fought and won and lost many times across the Internet. Please don't start it up again here. If you do really w

Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work

2014-06-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 17 June 2014 18:52:08 Bret Busby wrote: > On 18/06/2014, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 00:28:45 +0800 > > > > Bret Busby wrote: > >> Now, if only the list defaulted to "Reply To List", it would be good, > >> and, make replying to the list, easier... > > > > As far as I know

Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work

2014-06-17 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 18 Jun 2014, Bret Busby wrote: > Where a list (and, I am assuming that the mailing list software for > this list allows it - from the full header, the mailing list software > used for this list, is Claws mail) is configured to by default, > Reply-To the mailing list, it generally is shown i

Re: reply-to-list for icedove? was Re: [OT] was Re: diff display

2008-09-11 Thread Rich Healey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 thveillon.debian wrote: > Johannes Wiedersich a écrit : >> On 2008-09-10 13:31, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: >> [snip] >> >> I am sorry for having accidentally sent that OT message to list. >> >> Does anyone know, if there is a way of fixing the missing

Re: reply-to-list for icedove? was Re: [OT] was Re: diff display

2008-09-11 Thread Chris Burkhardt
Ron Johnson wrote: > This works for me: > http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/replytolist-0.2.1.xpi > > v0.3.0 fails, since I use IMAP. > > I think that you need to install the Mnenhy add-on. Yes, downgrading to 0.2.1 works for me also. I don't think Icedove needs Mnenhy (but stock Thunderbird

Re: reply-to-list for icedove? was Re: [OT] was Re: diff display

2008-09-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On 09/11/08 02:53, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: On 2008-09-11 09:41, thveillon.debian wrote: I have "reply to mailing list 0.3.1" and it works ok with Icedove here. https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/thunderbird/addon/4455 It is considered "experimental" on Mozilla website I just noticed, but never h

Re: reply-to-list for icedove? was Re: [OT] was Re: diff display

2008-09-11 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
On 2008-09-11 09:41, thveillon.debian wrote: > I have "reply to mailing list 0.3.1" and it works ok with Icedove here. > > https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/thunderbird/addon/4455 > > It is considered "experimental" on Mozilla website I just noticed, but > never had a problem with it. Thanks! It wor

Re: reply-to-list for icedove? was Re: [OT] was Re: diff display

2008-09-11 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
On 2008-09-11 09:41, thveillon.debian wrote: > I have "reply to mailing list 0.3.1" and it works ok with Icedove here. > > https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/thunderbird/addon/4455 > > It is considered "experimental" on Mozilla website I just noticed, but > never had a problem with it. Thanks. It doe

Re: reply-to-list for icedove? was Re: [OT] was Re: diff display

2008-09-11 Thread thveillon.debian
Johannes Wiedersich a écrit : On 2008-09-10 13:31, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: [snip] I am sorry for having accidentally sent that OT message to list. Does anyone know, if there is a way of fixing the missing 'reply-to-list' functionally of icedove for lenny? Since the extension doesn't work an

Re: Reply to list (was Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question.)

2008-04-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 11:04:51AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 02:54:26PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > [..] > Regarding: > > http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html > > > yeah, it's tough. It was also a simply avoided mistake. We all make > > simple mist

Re: reply to list was Re:[Somewhat More OT] Closed source software

2008-04-05 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Mark Allums wrote: > > It's not my mailer, it's me (I use Thunderbird/Mozilla/Icedove), > > and I have to apologize for it. > > Please be considerate to others and use an email client that is aware > of reply-to-list feature. From > http://w

Re: reply to list was Re:[Somewhat More OT] Closed source software

2008-04-05 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Mark Allums wrote: > > It's not my mailer, it's me (I use Thunderbird/Mozilla/Icedove), and I > have to apologize for it. Please be considerate to others and use an email client that is aware of reply-to-list feature. From http://wiki.debian.org/ReplyToListEmailClients there are many email clie

Re: Reply to list

2007-03-18 Thread Paul Scott
Ron Johnson wrote: (snip) > > >> > > This first link doesn't work at the moment and the next link doesn't > > tell me anything useful. > >> [1] > >> http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/thunderbird/news/20060812T181723Z.html > >> > > I have Thunderbird from sid. How do I activate the ReplyToList

Re: Reply to list

2007-03-18 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mathias Brodala wrote: > Hello Paul. > > Paul Scott, 18.03.2007 19:35: >> Mathias Brodala wrote: >>> You don’t need another client since Thunderbird/Icedove has an >>> extension[0] >>> which enables you to reply to list only. I’m using it for a long t

Re: Reply to list

2007-03-18 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/18/07 13:35, Paul Scott wrote: > Mathias Brodala wrote: >> Hello Michael. >> You don’t need another client since Thunderbird/Icedove has an >> extension[0] >> which enables you to reply to list only. I’m using it for a long time >> now. Don’t >>

Re: Reply to list

2007-03-18 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hello Paul. Paul Scott, 18.03.2007 19:35: > Mathias Brodala wrote: >> You don’t need another client since Thunderbird/Icedove has an >> extension[0] >> which enables you to reply to list only. I’m using it for a long time >> now. Don’t >> worry about the patch mentioned on the site, it’s already i

Re: Reply to list [was Re: trying to use reportbug ...]

2006-01-09 Thread Richard Lyons
On Tuesday, 10 January 2006 at 9:42:08 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 05:41:46PM -0700, Paul Alan Scott wrote: > > > > BTW I tried "Reply to list" for this response (from mutt) and discovered > > it's not that magical. I appararently have to first tell mutt about any >

Re: reply-to munging

2005-12-22 Thread Steve Lamb
Felix Miata wrote: > Maybe people should be allowed to choose a MUA based on whether its > entire feature set best meets their overall needs. Maybe people who choose to use an MUA which is deficient in one area or another should complain to the authors of the MUA about said deficiencies instea

Re: reply-to munging

2005-12-22 Thread Felix Miata
Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2005-12-18 07:33:53, schrieb Felix Miata: > > This is a public discussion list, not a public questions/private answers > > list. You can't have a public discussion when people make their replies > > private. > Maybe you should use a RFC-Compliant MUA > which suppo

Re: reply-to munging

2005-12-22 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-12-18 07:33:53, schrieb Felix Miata: > That's only one admin's opinion. I find the opposite superior: > http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-useful.html > > This is a public discussion list, not a public questions/private answers > list. You can't have a public discussion when people

Re: reply-to munging

2005-12-19 Thread Steve Lamb
Felix Miata wrote: > The default (passive) choice to a public discussion list should always > be to the list, requiring no more thought than choosing to reply at all. > Choosing not to reply to the group should require an active choice, not > a passive choice. Private replies add nothing to the dis

Re: reply-to munging

2005-12-19 Thread Felix Miata
Steve Lamb wrote: >> Felix Miata wrote: > >> This is a public discussion list, not a public questions/private answers > >> list. You can't have a public discussion when people make their replies > >> private. > And it is up to the individual on how they wish to reply. Quite frankly > if s

Re: reply-to munging

2005-12-19 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2005-12-18, Felix Miata penned: > > That's only one admin's opinion. I find the opposite superior: > http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-useful.html > > This is a public discussion list, not a public questions/private > answers list. You can't have a public discussion when people make > th

Re: reply-to munging

2005-12-19 Thread Mike McCarty
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:36:10 -0800 Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Some software does honor list-post and those that don't often have a bug filed against it for failing to do so. How comes traditional *nix mailers can handle non-munging AND munging correctly

Re: reply-to munging

2005-12-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:36:10 -0800 Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some software does honor list-post and those that don't often have a bug > filed against it for failing to do so. How comes traditional *nix mailers can handle non-munging AND munging correctly and newer clients (of

Re: reply-to munging

2005-12-19 Thread Michael Marsh
On 12/19/05, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: > > business. The [b]sender[/b] gets to choose. > > This is the result of too much time posting to phpbb forums. Mia culpa! Could be worse. You could have written: The .B sender gets to choose. -- Michael A. Marsh http:

Re: reply-to munging

2005-12-19 Thread Steve Lamb
Steve Lamb wrote: > business. The [b]sender[/b] gets to choose. This is the result of too much time posting to phpbb forums. Mia culpa! -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of soul

Re: reply-to munging

2005-12-19 Thread Steve Lamb
Mike McCarty wrote: > Felix Miata wrote: >> That's only one admin's opinion. I find the opposite superior: >> http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-useful.html Felix (I know, I'm replying to Mike but attribution is corerct here), this page is simply outdated. It references 822 and was wri

Re: reply-to munging

2005-12-19 Thread Mike McCarty
Gabriel wrote: Jon Dowland wrote: On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 10:11:43PM -0300, Gabriel wrote: And please, I know sometimes happens, but send the replys to the list. That's why we all should add a reply-to field on the messages we send to the list. (although I forgot to do this with this messag

Re: reply-to munging

2005-12-19 Thread Mike McCarty
Felix Miata wrote: Jon Dowland wrote: On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 10:11:43PM -0300, Gabriel wrote: And please, I know sometimes happens, but send the replys to the list. That's why we all should add a reply-to field on the messages we send to the list. (although I forgot to do this with this

Re: reply-to munging (Re: Shutdown w/o root password.)

2005-12-19 Thread Mike McCarty
Jon Dowland wrote: On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 10:11:43PM -0300, Gabriel wrote: And please, I know sometimes happens, but send the replys to the list. That's why we all should add a reply-to field on the messages we send to the list. (although I forgot to do this with this message :-P) No, we sh

Re: reply-to munging

2005-12-18 Thread Gabriel
Jon Dowland wrote: On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 10:11:43PM -0300, Gabriel wrote: And please, I know sometimes happens, but send the replys to the list. That's why we all should add a reply-to field on the messages we send to the list. (although I forgot to do this with this message :-P)

Re: reply-to munging

2005-12-18 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 07:33:53AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Jon Dowland wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 10:11:43PM -0300, Gabriel wrote: > > > > And please, I know sometimes happens, but send the replys to the list. > > > That's why we all should add a reply-to field on the messages we s

Re: reply-to munging

2005-12-18 Thread Felix Miata
Jon Dowland wrote: > On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 10:11:43PM -0300, Gabriel wrote: > > And please, I know sometimes happens, but send the replys to the list. > > That's why we all should add a reply-to field on the messages we send > > to the list. (although I forgot to do this with this message :-P)

Re: reply to list (mailing list) in thunderbird?

2005-12-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello Micha, Am 2005-12-03 20:28:01, schrieb Micha Feigin: Is it possible with mozilla thunderbird to do reply to list like some other mailing list friendly email clients can do (such as sylpheed-claws). No it does not. But you can: 1) Kill all Mozilla/T

Re: reply to list (mailing list) in thunderbird?

2005-12-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Micha, Am 2005-12-03 20:28:01, schrieb Micha Feigin: > Is it possible with mozilla thunderbird to do reply to list like some other > mailing list friendly email clients can do (such as sylpheed-claws). No it does not. But you can: 1) Kill all Mozilla/Thunderbird Core-Developer 2)

Re: reply to list (mailing list) in thunderbird?

2005-12-06 Thread Mike McCarty
Ralph Katz wrote: Thunderbird uses mbox formats. In thunderbird: Edit -> Account Settings -> Add Account -> Movemail ... Detail and Screenshots: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Help_Documentation:Creating_an_Account I use thunderbird for all mail including system mail and mail from account

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