On Fri 03 Jan 2025 at 10:54:21 (-0500), Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> Heh. I remember a 300 baud modem where you had to dial the number on a phone
> and then flip the switch on the modem when the other end answered. Whether
> you selected the answer or originate mode was a crap shoot, there we
On 1/1/25 7:04 PM, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 31/12/2024 11:01, Marc Shapiro wrote:
What about LVM? Is it usable (or even useful) with UEFI?
Do you expect expect UEFI boot from purely LVM drives? Out of the box
EFI system partition (fat) must be outside of LVM volumes. There is a
chance that s
On 1/4/25 22:54, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 04/01/2025 17:19, gene heskett wrote:
One does get tired and short tempered when a copy/paste error post
bullseye that wrecks udev is said to not be fixed before trixie.
Thats not excusable when the fix is a one line patch we've all done
years ago. Get
On 1/4/25 22:47, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 04/01/2025 17:19, gene heskett wrote:
On 1/3/25 22:51, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 02/01/2025 23:05, poc...@homemail.com wrote:
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2025 at 10:38 AM "Max Nikulin"
On 02/01/2025 10:41, poc...@homemail.com wrote:
Lookup Gene and network
On Sat 04 Jan 2025 at 05:19:23 (-0500), gene heskett wrote:
> I also have a couple radio clocks that self set in the wee hours when
> skip from WWWV in Boulder CO is best, they indicate good signals, but
> are off an hour, like the timezone files are duff. However, when I
> went to check them at 04
On 04/01/2025 17:19, gene heskett wrote:
One does get tired and short tempered when a copy/paste error post
bullseye that wrecks udev is said to not be fixed before trixie. Thats
not excusable when the fix is a one line patch we've all done years ago.
Get it from a pinned post on discord/klippe
On 04/01/2025 17:19, gene heskett wrote:
On 1/3/25 22:51, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 02/01/2025 23:05, poc...@homemail.com wrote:
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2025 at 10:38 AM "Max Nikulin"
On 02/01/2025 10:41, poc...@homemail.com wrote:
Lookup Gene and networkmanager,
I wrote my previous just to
On 1/3/25 22:51, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 02/01/2025 23:05, poc...@homemail.com wrote:
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2025 at 10:38 AM "Max Nikulin"
On 02/01/2025 10:41, poc...@homemail.com wrote:
Lookup Gene and networkmanager,
Do you really believe it is a precise enough reference? My
impressi
On 02/01/2025 23:05, poc...@homemail.com wrote:
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2025 at 10:38 AM "Max Nikulin"
On 02/01/2025 10:41, poc...@homemail.com wrote:
Lookup Gene and networkmanager,
Do you really believe it is a precise enough reference? My impression is
that despite NetworkManager can ea
On 1/3/25 05:05, mick.crane wrote:
On 2025-01-03 02:59, gene heskett wrote:
On 1/2/25 21:20, mick.crane wrote:
On 2025-01-01 21:46, gene heskett wrote:
On 1/1/25 13:48, Joe wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:58:25 +0100
poc...@homemail.com wrote:
[...]
In fact I'm sure you've noticed that help is
On Fri, Jan 03, 2025 at 10:54:21AM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
And of course people would pick up the phone while you were connected...
When I got a second phone for the modem I was truly living the dream. :D
On Thursday 02 January 2025 06:48:20 pm Andy Smith wrote:
> > 24TB drive - WOW - just thinking about that hurts.
>
> Even several models of NVMe are available now at ~61TB with ~122TB
> coming soon. 😀
>
>
> https://www.servethehome.com/the-samsung-bm1743-is-a-61-44tb-today-with-a-122-88tb-d
On Thursday 02 January 2025 06:43:07 pm George at Clug wrote:
> > Maybe as good as your phone...this was probably 30 years ago or more.
>
> LOL - I do recall using 1200 and 2400 baud modems. When 9600 baud modems
> came out, it was like WOW. (ouch the memory cells hurt)
>
Heh. I remember a 3
Hi,
On Fri, Jan 03, 2025 at 02:20:19AM +, mick.crane wrote:
> I've no idea what gene is talking about but his questions indicate somebody
> who wants to be in control of his own operating system.
It isn't possible to advise when his problems are complex and the
operating system he wants contr
On 2025-01-03 02:59, gene heskett wrote:
On 1/2/25 21:20, mick.crane wrote:
On 2025-01-01 21:46, gene heskett wrote:
On 1/1/25 13:48, Joe wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:58:25 +0100
poc...@homemail.com wrote:
[...]
In fact I'm sure you've noticed that help is often offered to users
of
other syst
On 1/2/25 21:20, mick.crane wrote:
On 2025-01-01 21:46, gene heskett wrote:
On 1/1/25 13:48, Joe wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:58:25 +0100
poc...@homemail.com wrote:
[...]
In fact I'm sure you've noticed that help is often offered to users of
other systems, but tentatively and with warnings th
On 2025-01-01 21:46, gene heskett wrote:
On 1/1/25 13:48, Joe wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:58:25 +0100
poc...@homemail.com wrote:
[...]
In fact I'm sure you've noticed that help is often offered to users of
other systems, but tentatively and with warnings that it may not work.
"Gene is a speci
Hi,
On Fri, Jan 03, 2025 at 10:34:47AM +1100, George at Clug wrote:
> On Friday, 03-01-2025 at 09:57 Michael Stone wrote:
> > Spinning disks are slow; 8 hours for 3TB is about 100MB/s and 8h is
> > about how much time I'd expect it to take to write a commodity disk that
> > size. It becomes real
On Friday, 03-01-2025 at 10:18 Michael Stone wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 03, 2025 at 09:59:20AM +1100, George at Clug wrote:
> >On Friday, 03-01-2025 at 09:46 fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote:
> >> i managed a half dozen hp9000 servers with 200 2gb drives
> >> lvm came in pretty handy :)
>
> I have no go
On Friday, 03-01-2025 at 09:57 Michael Stone wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 06:29:08PM +1100, George at Clug wrote:
> >I once used/tested with RAID 6 and was amazed how long it took to rebuild a
> >3TB swapped hard drive (about 8 hours, if I recall).
(This was using an Intel 8 port SAS/SATA
On Fri, Jan 03, 2025 at 09:59:20AM +1100, George at Clug wrote:
On Friday, 03-01-2025 at 09:46 fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote:
i managed a half dozen hp9000 servers with 200 2gb drives
lvm came in pretty handy :)
I have no good memories of hpux servers. :-D But yes, the linux LVM was
inspired
On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 22:46:07 +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote:
> i managed a half dozen hp9000 servers with 200 2gb drives
> lvm came in pretty handy :)
To be fair, HP-UX did not have the concept of disk partitions. There was
no msdos or gpt. Just "use the entire disk" or "use LVM on the
On Friday, 03-01-2025 at 09:46 fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Jan 2025, Michael Stone wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 06:29:08PM +1100, George at Clug wrote:
> >> LVM was introduced to allow extending storage by adding extra physical
> >> drives. Storage space is allocated as
On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 06:29:08PM +1100, George at Clug wrote:
I once used/tested with RAID 6 and was amazed how long it took to rebuild a 3TB
swapped hard drive (about 8 hours, if I recall).
Spinning disks are slow; 8 hours for 3TB is about 100MB/s and 8h is
about how much time I'd expect i
On Friday, 03-01-2025 at 09:39 Michael Stone wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 06:29:08PM +1100, George at Clug wrote:
> >LVM was introduced to allow extending storage by adding extra physical
> >drives. Storage space is allocated as virtualised storage, i.e. Logical
> >Volumes.
>
> Yes and no
On Thu, 2 Jan 2025, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 06:29:08PM +1100, George at Clug wrote:
>> LVM was introduced to allow extending storage by adding extra physical
>> drives. Storage space is allocated as virtualised storage, i.e. Logical
>> Volumes.
>
> Yes and no. LVM was intr
On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 10:04:51AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
I am unsure if grub images signed for Secure Boot include LVM drivers
or /boot should be outside of LVM as well.
grub should work fine these days without /boot being a separate
partition, unless you encrypt / (in which case you need
On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 06:29:08PM +1100, George at Clug wrote:
LVM was introduced to allow extending storage by adding extra physical drives.
Storage space is allocated as virtualised storage, i.e. Logical Volumes.
Yes and no. LVM was introduced to allow flexibility in how you assign
space.
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2025 at 10:38 AM
> From: "Max Nikulin"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon
>
> On 02/01/2025 10:41, poc...@homemail.com wrote:
> > Lookup Gene and networkmanager,
>
> Do you really
On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 06:54:55PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
>
> > > > > > Good question Marc. I'm searching for someone who knows how to
> > > > > > combine 4
> > > > > > ea 4T SSD's into one volume for use with amanda, the lvm docs are
> > > > > > somewhat confusing, lacking the context that a
On 02/01/2025 10:41, poc...@homemail.com wrote:
Lookup Gene and networkmanager,
Do you really believe it is a precise enough reference? My impression is
that despite NetworkManager can easily handle his cases, he often
demonstrate unmotivated aggression against NetworkManager developers.
The
On 02/01/2025 11:22, gene heskett wrote:
On 1/1/25 21:57, Max Nikulin wrote:
The problem is that he can not use some search engine to find guides
related to LVM. He believes that everything must be documented in man
pages, but he ignores any tool that may help to find locally installed
man pag
Hi Gene,
On Wed, Jan 01, 2025 at 04:46:37PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> The hardware I use has nothing non-std in the field I work in. But 99% of
> you folks haven't the foggiest idea of what we get the dirt under our
> fingernails from, or how we "get it done".
I'm disappointed to read that you
On Thursday, 02-01-2025 at 15:22 gene heskett wrote:
>
> On 1/1/25 21:57, Max Nikulin wrote:
> > On 01/01/2025 00:55, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> >> On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 11:32:17PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> Good question Marc. I'm searching for someone who knows how to
> combine
On Wed 01 Jan 2025 at 16:46:37 (-0500), gene heskett wrote:
> On 1/1/25 13:48, Joe wrote:
> "Gene is a special case in that he uses non-standard hardware to do
> things that the rest of us don't do, working in ways that we don't
> work. We do our best, but that's often not good enough".
>
> The ha
On 1/1/25 21:57, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 01/01/2025 00:55, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 11:32:17PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
Good question Marc. I'm searching for someone who knows how to
combine 4
ea 4T SSD's into one volume for use with amanda, the lvm docs are
somewhat
On 02/01/2025 09:36, poc...@homemail.com wrote:
From: "Max Nikulin"
On 01/01/2025 20:58, poc...@homemail.com wrote:
Try to get it corrected and you will/must be attacked.
My experience does not match yours.
Of course it doesn't, people here are not 100% against you
What wiki pages you tri
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2025 at 10:29 PM
> From: "Max Nikulin"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon
>
> On 02/01/2025 09:36, poc...@homemail.com wrote:
> >> From: "Max Nikulin"
> >> On 01/01/
On 31/12/2024 11:01, Marc Shapiro wrote:
What about LVM? Is it usable (or even useful) with UEFI?
Do you expect expect UEFI boot from purely LVM drives? Out of the box
EFI system partition (fat) must be outside of LVM volumes. There is a
chance that somebody has written a LVM driver for UEFI
On 01/01/2025 23:58, poc...@homemail.com wrote:
You forgot this one.
https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/fetchmail
Description=Fetchmail
After=network.target
[Service]
User=fetchmail
ExecStart=/usr/bin/fetchmail --pidfile /run/fetchmail/fetchmailrc.pid -f
/etc/fetchmailr
On 01/01/2025 20:58, poc...@homemail.com wrote:
In the great number of cases most look to Archlinux for setting up and
running packages.
Why because the wiki is no nonsense and just works in almost every case.
debians wiki is woefully incomplete and contains old out dated
information which in mos
On 01/01/2025 00:55, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 11:32:17PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
Good question Marc. I'm searching for someone who knows how to combine 4
ea 4T SSD's into one volume for use with amanda, the lvm docs are
somewhat confusing, lacking the context that actu
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2025 at 9:19 PM
> From: "Max Nikulin"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon
>
> On 01/01/2025 20:58, poc...@homemail.com wrote:
> > In the great number of cases most look to Archlinux for s
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2025 at 9:09 PM
> From: "Max Nikulin"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon
>
> On 01/01/2025 23:58, poc...@homemail.com wrote:
> > You forgot this one.
> >
> > https://git
On 1/1/25 13:48, Joe wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:58:25 +0100
poc...@homemail.com wrote:
[...]
In fact I'm sure you've noticed that help is often offered to users of
other systems, but tentatively and with warnings that it may not work.
"Gene is a special case in that he uses non-standard har
On 1/1/25 12:15, Michael Stone wrote:
On Wed, Jan 01, 2025 at 09:29:01AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
Please don't feed the trolls.
It's a tough line to walk. On the one hand, yeah, we don't want to
feed the trolls. But if the trolls keep going anyway with no sign they
will stop, we run th
On Wed, Jan 01, 2025 at 09:29:01AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
Please don't feed the trolls.
It's a tough line to walk. On the one hand, yeah, we don't want to feed
the trolls. But if the trolls keep going anyway with no sign they will
stop, we run the risk of implicitly supporting unchallen
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2025 at 11:51 AM
> From: "Michael Stone"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon
>
> On Wed, Jan 01, 2025 at 05:18:58PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote:
> >Thank you for proving my point,
On Wed, Jan 01, 2025 at 05:18:58PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote:
Thank you for proving my point, I knew I would not be disappointed.
Your proof positive that my point is well established.
What point? The reactions you encounter are those that you've earned.
Some of the valuable content y
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 10:37:38 -0500
Michael Stone wrote:
> You've been trolling with messages that add exactly zero value,…
Please don't feed the trolls.
--
Does anybody read signatures any more?
https://charlescurley.com
https://charlescurley.com/blog/
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2025 at 10:37 AM
> From: "Michael Stone"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon
>
> On Wed, Jan 01, 2025 at 03:35:25PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote:
> >I was just attacked on this list fo
On Wed, Jan 01, 2025 at 03:35:25PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote:
I was just attacked on this list for posting a systemd unit file that came from
Archlinux.
It was the first response in the thread.
Where were you?
I have been banned from the wiki and this list by cater and the debian elder
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2025 at 9:28 AM
> From: "Frank Guthausen"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon
>
> On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:58:25 +0100
> poc...@homemail.com wrote:
> >
> > debians wiki is woefull
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:58:25 +0100
poc...@homemail.com wrote:
>
> debians wiki is woefully incomplete and
> contains old out dated information which in most cases it just flat
> out incorrect.
This happens when no individual person takes
responsibility for updating things. You could
be this person
> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2024 at 6:54 PM
> From: "gene heskett"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon
> >
> > If these are Banana Pi 5 and you want them supported *in Debian*, go and
> > talk to the folks on IRC
On 12/31/24 17:51, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 04:53:53PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
On 12/31/24 12:56, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 11:32:17PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
Marc
Good question Marc. I'm searching for someone who knows how to combine 4
ea
On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 04:53:53PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
>
> On 12/31/24 12:56, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 11:32:17PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> > > > Marc
> > > > Good question Marc. I'm searching for someone who knows how to combine 4
> > > > ea 4T SSD's into one
On 12/31/24 12:56, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 11:32:17PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
Marc
Good question Marc. I'm searching for someone who knows how to combine 4
ea 4T SSD's into one volume for use with amanda, the lvm docs are
somewhat confusing, lacking the context that
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 20:01:41 -0800
Marc Shapiro wrote:
>
> What about LVM? Is it usable (or even useful) with UEFI?
UEFI has an effect on installing and finding the bootloader. The
bootloader will boot the kernel as it does on legacy BIOS systems.
Then the kernel is in charge and assembles devi
On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 11:32:17PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> >
> > Marc
> > Good question Marc. I'm searching for someone who knows how to combine 4
> > ea 4T SSD's into one volume for use with amanda, the lvm docs are
> > somewhat confusing, lacking the context that actually teaches.
> >
Hi
On 12/30/24 23:02, Marc Shapiro wrote:
On 12/27/24 8:19 AM, David Wright wrote:
On Thu 26 Dec 2024 at 14:30:38 (-0800), David Christensen wrote:
On 12/26/24 11:35, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
On Saturday 21 December 2024 08:14:11 pm Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
On Saturday 21 December 2024
On 12/27/24 8:19 AM, David Wright wrote:
On Thu 26 Dec 2024 at 14:30:38 (-0800), David Christensen wrote:
On 12/26/24 11:35, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
On Saturday 21 December 2024 08:14:11 pm Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
On Saturday 21 December 2024 02:20:20 pm Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
Set
On Thursday 26 December 2024 05:30:38 pm David Christensen wrote:
> > It's a real PITA to switch which input this monitor is using, taking many
> > button presses on buttons that I can't even see because they're under the
> > front of the monitor.
>
> So, you have two computers, two keyboards,
On Thu 26 Dec 2024 at 14:30:38 (-0800), David Christensen wrote:
> On 12/26/24 11:35, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> > On Saturday 21 December 2024 08:14:11 pm Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> > > On Saturday 21 December 2024 02:20:20 pm Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > > > Set the machine to boot in UEFI
On 12/26/24 11:35, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
On Saturday 21 December 2024 08:14:11 pm Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
On Saturday 21 December 2024 02:20:20 pm Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
Set the machine to boot in UEFI mode if this is available rather than
legacy MBR / both.
Why is this preferable
On Saturday 21 December 2024 08:14:11 pm Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> On Saturday 21 December 2024 02:20:20 pm Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > Set the machine to boot in UEFI mode if this is available rather than
> > legacy MBR / both.
>
> Why is this preferable?
?
> > Do a network install. That
On 12/23/24 8:10 PM, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
On Monday 23 December 2024 08:50:25 am Richard Owlett wrote:
On 12/22/24 3:18 PM, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
[snip]
That depends. I want to be able to *use* the thing, right off, and not have
to fiddle with stuff to get it to work.
Confiden
On Monday 23 December 2024 08:50:25 am Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 12/22/24 3:18 PM, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> > [snip]
> > That depends. I want to be able to *use* the thing, right off, and not
> > have to fiddle with stuff to get it to work.
> >
> > Confident in my skills? Yeah, I'd sa
On 12/22/24 3:18 PM, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
[snip]
That depends. I want to be able to *use* the thing, right off, and not have to fiddle with stuff to get it to work.
Confident in my skills? Yeah, I'd say so. Though there's a whole
lot of stuff I'd rather not have to bother with to g
On Sunday 22 December 2024 11:13:53 am songbird wrote:
> Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> > So I have a DVD with 12.something on it, not too old. I plan to install
> > that, and then see what's on this workstation that I also might want to
> > install, and then go from there. I'm currently usin
Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> So I have a DVD with 12.something on it, not too old. I plan to install
> that, and then see what's on this workstation that I also might want to
> install, and then go from there. I'm currently using virtualbox on this
> machine, but would like to explore som
On Sat, Dec 21, 2024 at 08:14:11PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> On Saturday 21 December 2024 02:20:20 pm Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 21, 2024 at 12:44:34PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> > > So I have a DVD with 12.something on it, not too old. I plan to install
> > >
Roy,
I don't know what words I should use to say how nice I find your
choice. To keep it simple: 'Capable and cost effective'.
I usually like the i7 range, but this CPU has everything I look for
when choosing a computer to act as a Hypervisor, particularly for my
primary PC on which I test a nu
On Saturday 21 December 2024 06:29:29 pm George at Clug wrote:
> Roy,
>
> If you do not mind me asking, what is the make and model of the Video card
> (GPU) that will be in the new workstation? Will you be using two GPUs in the
> computer?
It's whatever is on the MB in the machine. The page w
On Saturday 21 December 2024 03:15:54 pm Joe wrote:
> He didn't say if the computer will come with Windows installed,
Nope. I made it a point to get a machine with no OS installed. From these
guys:
https://www.thinkpenguin.com/
--
Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting
On Saturday 21 December 2024 02:20:20 pm Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 21, 2024 at 12:44:34PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> > So I have a DVD with 12.something on it, not too old. I plan to install
> > that, and then see what's on this workstation that I also might want to
> >
Roy,
If you do not mind me asking, what is the make and model of the Video card
(GPU) that will be in the new workstation? Will you be using two GPUs in the
computer?
I would also be interested in knowing what brand and type of CPU is in the
computer.
These will affect virtualisation softwar
On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 19:20:20 +
"Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 21, 2024 at 12:44:34PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> > So I have a DVD with 12.something on it, not too old. I plan to
> > install that, and then see what's on this workstation that I also
> > might want to inst
On Sat, Dec 21, 2024 at 12:44:34PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> So I have a DVD with 12.something on it, not too old. I plan to install
> that, and then see what's on this workstation that I also might want to
> install, and then go from there. I'm currently using virtualbox on this
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