Re: most lightweight debian server

2008-03-31 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 08:10:07PM +0800, paragasu wrote: > > There is a lot more than just the I/O scheduler. It just popped into my > > head because I am doing the configuration right now, myself, and because > > of the debate/controversy about it. Also, you will want to build the > > device dr

Re: most lightweight debian server

2008-03-31 Thread Mark Allums
Mark Allums wrote: paragasu wrote: i will love to find out all the option available. I just one to ask one more thing. i hope it is not too much. Isn't the kernel have modular support. able to load and unload the needed and unneeded modules on the fly? How much is the improvement compare to t

Re: most lightweight debian server

2008-03-31 Thread Mark Allums
paragasu wrote: i will love to find out all the option available. I just one to ask one more thing. i hope it is not too much. Isn't the kernel have modular support. able to load and unload the needed and unneeded modules on the fly? How much is the improvement compare to the strip down versio

Re: most lightweight debian server

2008-03-31 Thread paragasu
> There is a lot more than just the I/O scheduler. It just popped into my > head because I am doing the configuration right now, myself, and because > of the debate/controversy about it. Also, you will want to build the > device drivers you need as modules, and configure the system to unload > mo

Re: most lightweight debian server

2008-03-31 Thread Mark Allums
paragasu wrote: thanks Mark Allums, Honestly, i spent less time looking on the kernel side. i will look at the documentation for the I/O scheduler options. great information you have ;) Ron Johnson gets the credit. The idea is, you are low on RAM, so prevent anything from using RAM. If you

Re: most lightweight debian server

2008-03-31 Thread Mark Allums
paragasu wrote: There are three I/O schedulers in the 2.6.24 distribution. The deadline, anticipatory, and completely fair. You will see these as options when you run make gconfig (or whichever config you run). Completely Fair (CFQ) is now the default. This was mildly controve

Re: most lightweight debian server

2008-03-31 Thread paragasu
> There are three I/O schedulers in the 2.6.24 distribution. The > deadline, anticipatory, and completely fair. You will see these as > options when you run make gconfig (or whichever config you run). > Completely Fair (CFQ) is now the default. This was mildly controversial > when they made the

Re: most lightweight debian server

2008-03-31 Thread Mark Allums
paragasu wrote: BSD 7.0 is alleged to be better than Linux 2.6.xx, but that is disputed. You might want to use a different scheduler and I/O scheduler than the default if you use a 2.6.24 kernel. As the man said, compile your own. well, add RAM is out of question, because it is a

Re: most lightweight debian server

2008-03-31 Thread paragasu
> BSD 7.0 is alleged to be better than Linux 2.6.xx, but that is disputed. > You might want to use a different scheduler and I/O scheduler than the > default if you use a 2.6.24 kernel. As the man said, compile your own. > > I can't answer as well about the userlands. That depends on what > envi

Re: most lightweight debian server

2008-03-31 Thread Mark Allums
On 03/30/08 19:54, paragasu wrote: I find on my boxes with 64 MB ram or less, that I hit swap often. Etch is like that. So for old boxes, I run OpenBSD. No re-compiling necessary. Doug. are u suggesting that OpenBSD use better resource than debian etch? "Better"? Not if y

Re: most lightweight debian server

2008-03-30 Thread Mihira Fernando
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:17:59 +0800 paragasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i have a small vps with only 64MB memory. i am trying to run a costume > made PHP > scripts in there but i have trouble. when i install mysql server 5.0 > and apache2 server. > it is so slow. in fact too slow. thus two server

Re: most lightweight debian server

2008-03-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/08 19:54, paragasu wrote: > > I find on my boxes with 64 MB ram or less, that I hit swap often. Etch > is like that. So for old boxes, I run OpenBSD. No re-compiling > necessary. > > Doug. > > > > are u suggesting that

Re: most lightweight debian server

2008-03-30 Thread paragasu
> I find on my boxes with 64 MB ram or less, that I hit swap often. Etch > is like that. So for old boxes, I run OpenBSD. No re-compiling > necessary. > > Doug. > are u suggesting that OpenBSD use better resource than debian etch? is there any way to customize debian etch so it use server reso

Re: most lightweight debian server

2008-03-30 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 01:17:59AM +0800, paragasu wrote: > i have a small vps with only 64MB memory. i am trying to run a costume made > PHP > well, assume i don't have enough money to buy a better server. it is > possible to make a > very fast server with compiling the source code etc.. > > th