Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-25 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Hi, On Thu Nov 21, 2024 at 6:30 AM GMT, David Wright wrote: > But can I ask you why you stopped using f=f when you changed address. It wasn't a change of address, but a change of MUA or MUA config. I certainly had it enabled at some point with mutt, and I changed the way I used mutt (from mostly

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread gene heskett
On 11/21/24 19:01, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 18:32:38 -0500, gene heskett wrote: The =20 tells me its been converted to html style encoding some where. No, =20 is "quoted printable" encoding. It's extremely common for email; it can be used whenever the source content is HTM

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread David Wright
On Wed 20 Nov 2024 at 11:35:28 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > On 11/20/24 10:49, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > > > On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > > > Your sig separator arrives here as "--". If it leaves you as "-- ", > > > > which it seems

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 18:32:38 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > The =20 tells me its been converted to html style encoding some where. No, =20 is "quoted printable" encoding. It's extremely common for email; it can be used whenever the source content is HTML or plain text or a calendar invitation o

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread gene heskett
On 11/21/24 10:00, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 15:31, gene heskett wrote: On 11/20/24 15:16, gene heskett wrote: On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no traili

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 Nov 2024 at 10:11:56 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 20/11/2024 22:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, eben wrote: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > > > This line has one

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 Nov 2024 at 14:38:02 (-0500), eben wrote: > On 11/21/24 11:46, eben wrote: > > On 11/21/24 11:07, eben wrote: > >> On 11/20/24 10:13, eben wrote: > >> > >>> Just for kicks: > >>> This line has no trailing spaces. > >>> This line has one trailing space. > >>> This line has two trailing spa

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread eben
On 11/21/24 11:46, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/21/24 11:07, e...@gmx.us wrote: >> On 11/20/24 10:13, e...@gmx.us wrote: >> >>> Just for kicks: >>> This line has no trailing spaces. >>> This line has one trailing space. >>> This line has two trailing spaces. >> >> OK, I changed "mail.html_compose" fr

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 11:46:01 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: Hello e...@gmx.us, >This is a long line that is more than seventy-two characters that >should end with a space. It is wrapped on my end. > >This is a long line that is more than seventy-two characters that >should end with two spaces. It is al

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread eben
On 11/21/24 11:07, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/20/24 10:13, e...@gmx.us wrote: > >> Just for kicks: >> This line has no trailing spaces. >> This line has one trailing space. >> This line has two trailing spaces. > > OK, I changed "mail.html_compose" from true to false.  Now to see if it > makes a di

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 11:07:07 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: Hello e...@gmx.us, >This line has no trailing spaces. >This line has one trailing space. >This line has two trailing spaces. No trailing spaces anywhere. Sorry. :-( -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}"

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread eben
On 11/21/24 11:07, e...@gmx.us wrote: OK, I changed "mail.html_compose" from true to false.  Now to see if it makes a difference: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces. Narrator: It did not.

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 10:13, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces. OK, I changed "mail.html_compose" from true to false. Now to see if it makes a difference: This line has no trailing spaces. This line

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread tomas
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 10:00:11AM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/20/24 15:31, gene heskett wrote: > > On 11/20/24 15:16, gene heskett wrote: > > > On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: > > > > On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread Max Nikulin
On 21/11/2024 10:11, Max Nikulin wrote: Eben, you may try to inspect sources of your messages ([Ctrl+U]) from sent and draft folders. Interesting, signature separator is lost by gmane, see w3m -m 'nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.linux.debian.user/622024' however it is present in USENET group and w

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 15:31, gene heskett wrote: On 11/20/24 15:16, gene heskett wrote: On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing s

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread John Crawley
On 21/11/2024 15:10, gene heskett wrote: That doesn't affect the dozens of miss-configured email agents here that violate those SOP's for text emails. My mail filter for debian-user seems to be working OK, everything sent to the right place. Maybe it's because I have fewer filters than you (3

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread gene heskett
On 11/20/24 23:46, John Crawley wrote: On 21/11/2024 05:31, gene heskett wrote: Which is what I am sending from latest t-bird in what I think is plain text, as below, and it works, my too long comment is not greyed out in the incoming echo from the listserver. You should see it incoming but no

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 15:32:47 (+), Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue Nov 19, 2024 at 3:02 PM GMT, eben wrote: > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k > > attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you see? > > I'm afraid not. Looking at your

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread gene heskett
On 11/21/24 01:10, gene heskett wrote: On 11/20/24 23:46, John Crawley wrote: On 21/11/2024 05:31, gene heskett wrote: Which is what I am sending from latest t-bird in what I think is plain text, as below, and it works, my too long comment is not greyed out in the incoming echo from the listse

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread John Crawley
On 21/11/2024 05:31, gene heskett wrote: Which is what I am sending from latest t-bird in what I think is plain text, as below, and it works, my too long comment is not greyed out in the incoming echo from the listserver. You should see it incoming but not in a reply you make that quotes my ms

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-11-20 at 12:08, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/20/24 11:37, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2024-11-20 at 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: >>> Does anyone using Thunderbird _not_ get trailing spaces stripped, >>> or is it just me? >> >> I don't (see signature below), but it may be worth noting that I

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread Max Nikulin
On 20/11/2024 22:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, eben wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed This line has one trailing space. [...] This line has two leading and two trailing spaces.

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread David Wright
On Wed 20 Nov 2024 at 11:35:28 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > > So, naturally you use an editor to compose your posts. > > Not sure why you would assume that, but let's run with it. How would I > configure Tbird do do such a thing? I see no relevant settings for "editor" > or "path" but maybe they're

Re: mail sig separator

2024-11-20 Thread Felix Miata
eben composed on 2024-11-20 12:08 (UTC-0500): > BTW I received your separator as "--=20". But that's once saved as eml. > Onscreen it looks fine, and the signature is greyed out. Anyone know how to > get a pure text version, if such a thing exists? Where is your .sig coming from? If it's in a p

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread gene heskett
On 11/20/24 15:16, gene heskett wrote: On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces.

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread gene heskett
On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces. In the message I received, none of th

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 12:08:02 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: > Anyone know how to > get a pure text version, if such a thing exists? Possibly storing one's emails in maildir format. Each email is its own raw text file. Suitable grepping or use of mairix or the like should then locate particular messages

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:08:02PM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/20/24 11:37, The Wanderer wrote: > > On 2024-11-20 at 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: > > > > > On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > If I had to guess, I would guess that Thunderbird is composing > > > > HTML email, and

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 11:37, The Wanderer wrote: On 2024-11-20 at 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: If I had to guess, I would guess that Thunderbird is composing HTML email, and then translating it to plain text, with trailing spaces being lost during that translation.

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces. In the message I received, none of these lines have any trailing spaces. D

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 09:49:58AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > > On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 eben@… wrote: > > > > > > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 10:49, David Wright wrote: On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote: On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: Your sig separator arrives here as "--". If it leaves you as "-- ", which it seems to be based on your attached image, I'm not sure what's happening. I guess u

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-11-20 at 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> If I had to guess, I would guess that Thunderbird is composing >> HTML email, and then translating it to plain text, with trailing >> spaces being lost during that translation. Including the trailing >> space

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 eben@… wrote: > > > > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k > > > attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: > Just for kicks: > This line has no trailing spaces. > This line has one trailing space. > This line has two trailing spaces. In the message I received, none of these lines have any trailing spaces. If I had to guess, I would guess that

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 00:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 07:41:25PM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: Hello e...@gmx.us, That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k attachme

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread Eric S Fraga
Response below/inline for email e...@gmx.us wrote: > (original email sent 19 Nov 2024 at 10:02) > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k > attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you see? Your post/email comes through without the space after t

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread tomas
On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 07:41:25PM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 > > e...@gmx.us wrote: > > > > Hello e...@gmx.us, > > > > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k > > > attachment. This mess

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread eben
On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: Hello e...@gmx.us, That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you see? I see what Jonathan sees. Your sig separ

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread Markus Schönhaber
19.11.24, 16:02 +0100 e...@gmx.us: > On 11/19/24 05:19, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Sun Nov 17, 2024 at 7:05 PM GMT, eben wrote: >>> -- >> >> Just to point out that the mail signature separator is '-- ', i.e. with >> a suffixed ' ' character. Without it, Mail User Agent programs may n

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue Nov 19, 2024 at 3:02 PM GMT, eben wrote: > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k > attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you see? I'm afraid not. Looking at your message source, I see Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable and

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: Hello e...@gmx.us, >That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k >attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you see? I see what Jonathan sees. Your sig separator arrives here as "--". If it leaves

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread eben
On 11/19/24 05:19, Jonathan Dowland wrote: Hi, On Sun Nov 17, 2024 at 7:05 PM GMT, eben wrote: -- Just to point out that the mail signature separator is '-- ', i.e. with a suffixed ' ' character. Without it, Mail User Agent programs may not recognise your signature as such. That is what I

Re: mail tags in kmail?

2024-05-17 Thread Anssi Saari
Hans writes: > Dear list, > > does anyone know, where kmail is storing its tags for mails? The tags I mean > are those like "already read". I've never done that but maybe this helps, from https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kmail/kmail2/faq.html#transfer-mail-and-settings: 6.10. How do I transfer

Re: mail headers not set (cf question re tar)

2022-09-27 Thread Max Nikulin
On 24/09/2022 02:37, jr wrote: On Thursday, 22 September 2022 at 16:30:05 UTC+1, Max Nikulin wrote: ... Debian mail list archive has a rare mhonarc configuration that adds reply to list action (usually only reply to sender is available) and these mailto: links contain proper In-Reply-To value ht

Re: Mail Transfer Agent

2022-08-22 Thread David Christensen
On 8/20/22 23:36, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:  Hi,  I'm having problem with my actuel email provider (the one that goes with  my web hosting plan) ... ... would you have any suggestion for a service ? On Sun, 21 Aug 2022, David Christensen wrote: I have had a domain host plan (

Re: Mail Transfer Agent

2022-08-22 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, August 21, 2022 01:09:09 PM Karen Lewellen wrote: > Well, if we are going to plug services, shellworld is fantastic! > Even under new management service remains profoundly wonderful. > My personal site is hosted here too, with my paying $60 for both > accounts. Is that shellworld.net?

Re: Mail Transfer Agent

2022-08-21 Thread Karen Lewellen
suppose that applies to Jude as well. On Sun, 21 Aug 2022, john doe wrote: On 8/21/2022 8:30 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Can you stop hijacking this thread and stop promoting your own interest. -- John Doe

Re: Mail Transfer Agent

2022-08-21 Thread john doe
On 8/21/2022 8:30 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Can you stop hijacking this thread and stop promoting your own interest. -- John Doe

Re: Mail Transfer Agent

2022-08-21 Thread Karen Lewellen
Wow, that is profoundly unfortunate. Did you ever investigate via the admin at the time? Have been with shellworld more than 20 years now. makes me wonder if that was back in the block an address suspected, even with no reason, days? Microsoft did that to me to hotmail, and the admin at the

Re: Mail Transfer Agent

2022-08-21 Thread Jude DaShiell
After I got blacklisted on shellworld.net I moved on to panix.com with much dislocation some of which took me a couple years to correct. The blacklisting wasn't done by shellworld.net either. I found out about the blacklisting by looking my shellworld.net address up with google and the one that p

Re: Mail Transfer Agent

2022-08-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 12:39:18PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > I have had a telnet account with panix.com I think for 8 years and service > has been excellent. Webmail is also available for those that want it. > Telnet accounts here cost $100 per year. I chose telnet since I do better > with cl

Re: Mail Transfer Agent

2022-08-21 Thread Karen Lewellen
Well, if we are going to plug services, shellworld is fantastic! Even under new management service remains profoundly wonderful. My personal site is hosted here too, with my paying $60 for both accounts. Not to cast a cloud on Jude's suggestion below, but my personal efforts to explore Panix wer

Re: Mail Transfer Agent

2022-08-21 Thread Jude DaShiell
I have had a telnet account with panix.com I think for 8 years and service has been excellent. Webmail is also available for those that want it. Telnet accounts here cost $100 per year. I chose telnet since I do better with cli than gui. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of libe

Re: Mail Transfer Agent

2022-08-21 Thread Karen Lewellen
David, I am sure you are respecting security, but can we have a way to research hurricane electrics mail shell options? Thanks, On Sun, 21 Aug 2022, David Christensen wrote: On 8/20/22 23:36, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Hi, I'm having problem with my actuel email provider (t

Re: Mail Transfer Agent

2022-08-21 Thread David Christensen
On 8/20/22 23:36, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Hi, I'm having problem with my actuel email provider (the one that goes with my web hosting plan). It deals badly with mailing list and now has started to having delivery problem to email hosted by outlook.com . I believe their email server

Re: Mail Transfer Agent

2022-08-21 Thread Will Mengarini
Eskimo.com is $7/month for mail + Linux shell access (multiple servers, various distributions including Debian). * Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside [22-08/21=Su 02:36 -0400]: > Hi, > I'm having problem with my actuel email provider (the one that goes with > my web hosting plan). It deals badly w

Re: Mail Transfer Agent

2022-08-21 Thread John Hasler
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > I'd like a good email provider, as I ain't sure this (Postmark) will > fix all my delivery problem. Would it be better to get a paying plain > with Protonmail, who do offer a plan with IMAP/SMTP ? It's always better to get a paid plan. I've been using Pobo

Re: Mail Transfer Agent

2022-08-21 Thread fxkl47BF
On Sun, 21 Aug 2022, mick.crane wrote: > On 2022-08-21 07:36, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >> I'd like a good email provider, as I ain't sure this (Postmark) will >> fix >> all my delivery problem. Would it be better to get a paying plain with >> Protonmail, who do offer a plan with IM

Re: Mail Transfer Agent

2022-08-21 Thread Gregor Zattler
Hi Polyna-Maude, * Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside [2022-08-21; 02:36]: > I'm having problem with my actuel email provider (the one that goes with > my web hosting plan). It deals badly with mailing list and now has > started to having delivery problem to email hosted by outlook.com . I > believe

Re: Mail Transfer Agent

2022-08-21 Thread mick.crane
On 2022-08-21 07:36, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: I'd like a good email provider, as I ain't sure this (Postmark) will fix all my delivery problem. Would it be better to get a paying plain with Protonmail, who do offer a plan with IMAP/SMTP ? People have recommended posteo.de They s

Re: Mail Transfer Agent

2022-08-20 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 02:36:15AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > I'm having problem with my actuel email provider (the one that goes with > my web hosting plan). It deals badly with mailing list and now has > started to having delivery problem to email hosted by outlook.com

Re: mail monitoring

2022-06-22 Thread Philipp Ewald
Hi, i mean Server's sending all messages to our main mail account - like script outputs, general errors from services, kern.log and so on. we do already use mailfilter to direct same mails into same directory. my goal is it to read less mails -> only mails with (unkown) errors But spamassassin

Re: mail monitoring

2022-06-22 Thread Dan Ritter
Philipp Ewald wrote: > Hello guys, > > > our server sending all message to our main Mail Account. > Thats good we don't wanna change that. All Server sending all messages to > this address, mostly its not important. > > > I want to define "good" messages (with regex?) that can be filtered. Is

Re: mail service

2021-10-12 Thread 황병희
deloptes writes: > fxkl47BF wrote: > >> no offense taken >> i use expect_mkpasswd to generate passwords >> decades ago i got tired of trying to come up with user names >> i just use expect_mkpasswd to make a short unique name >> today everyone is trying to glean all of the personal info they can

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: mail service

2021-10-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 10 oct 21, 10:31:58, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > In general, the circumstances which would require one to use a tool like > > protonmail are not commonly observed in connection with a list like > > debian-user. > > While protonmail might be used for such situations, in my experience > most pr

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: mail service

2021-10-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 10 oct 21, 17:18:13, fxkl47BF wrote: > just one more thing > > posteo was mentioned as an alternative > i have a posteo account i will drop in a few months > their spam policy is to bounce it back to the sender > the account own has no say > > i also have a mailfence account i will drop >

Re: mail service

2021-10-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 10 oct 21, 13:41:33, fxkl47BF wrote: > > once again i totally agree and disagree > gmail, yahoo, gmx, etc. state that they scan mail going through their service They are free to scan all my postings to a publicly archived list, same as the rest of the internet ;) Kind regards, Andrei --

Re: mail service

2021-10-10 Thread deloptes
fxkl47BF wrote: > no offense taken > i use expect_mkpasswd to generate passwords > decades ago i got tired of trying to come up with user names > i just use expect_mkpasswd to make a short unique name > today everyone is trying to glean all of the personal info they can > i try not give out any mo

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: mail service

2021-10-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 10 Oct 2021 at 19:46:39 +, fxkl47BF wrote: [Mangled quoted text deleted] > > You have a link to a statement of this policy? > > > > - > > > > Brian. > > i do not > only a personal email from supp...@posteo.de I tend to take such mails f

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: mail service

2021-10-10 Thread fxkl47BF
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, October 10th, 2021 at 1:46 PM, Brian wrote: > On Sun 10 Oct 2021 at 17:18:13 +, fxkl47BF wrote: > > > just one more thing > > > > posteo was mentioned as an alternative > > > > i have a posteo account i will drop in a few months > > > > their spam

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: mail service

2021-10-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 10 Oct 2021 at 17:18:13 +, fxkl47BF wrote: > just one more thing > > posteo was mentioned as an alternative > i have a posteo account i will drop in a few months > their spam policy is to bounce it back to the sender > the account own has no say You have a link to a statement of this

[OFFTOPIC] Re: mail service

2021-10-10 Thread Stefan Monnier
> In general, the circumstances which would require one to use a tool like > protonmail are not commonly observed in connection with a list like > debian-user. While protonmail might be used for such situations, in my experience most protonmail users I've seen are just people that are sufficiently

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: mail service

2021-10-10 Thread fxkl47BF
just one more thing posteo was mentioned as an alternative i have a posteo account i will drop in a few months their spam policy is to bounce it back to the sender the account own has no say i also have a mailfence account i will drop a while back i stopped getting mail from my bank i investigate

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: mail service

2021-10-10 Thread fxkl47BF
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, October 10th, 2021 at 9:31 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > In general, the circumstances which would require one to use a tool like > > > > protonmail are not commonly observed in connection with a list like > > > > debian-user. > > While protonmail mig

Re: mail service

2021-10-10 Thread fxkl47BF
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, October 10th, 2021 at 9:30 AM, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 01:44:50PM +, fxkl47BF wrote: > > > but on another mailing list i used this same address > > > > i was banned > > > > the admin apologized and explained later my add

Re: mail service

2021-10-10 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 01:44:50PM +, fxkl47BF wrote: > but on another mailing list i used this same address > i was banned > the admin apologized and explained later my address looked suspicious Here they do not ban users based on e-mail domain alone. You have to do something wor

Re: mail service

2021-10-10 Thread fxkl47BF
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, October 10th, 2021 at 8:23 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 09:32:55AM +, fxkl47BF wrote: > > > in a different mailing list it was implied that if a person uses protonmail > > they must be up to no good > > > > i've used protonm

Re: mail service

2021-10-10 Thread fxkl47BF
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, October 10th, 2021 at 8:16 AM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 01:09:03PM +, fxkl47BF wrote: > > > i understand and respect what you are saying > > > > i also reject it > > > > we have no way of knowing you are roberto > > > >

Re: mail service

2021-10-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 09:32:55AM +, fxkl47BF wrote: > > in a different mailing list it was implied that if a person uses protonmail > they must be up to no good > i've used protonmail for about 6 months now and been satisfied > what am i missing I suspect I know which mailing list you're t

Re: mail service

2021-10-10 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 01:09:03PM +, fxkl47BF wrote: > > i understand and respect what you are saying > i also reject it > we have no way of knowing you are roberto > following what you say it would make people feel warm and fuzzy if i called > myself george washinton > it's just judging a b

Re: mail service

2021-10-10 Thread fxkl47BF
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, October 10th, 2021 at 7:17 AM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 09:32:55AM +, fxkl47BF wrote: > > > in a different mailing list it was implied that if a person uses protonmail > > they must be up to no good > > > > i've used pr

Re: mail service

2021-10-10 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 09:32:55AM +, fxkl47BF wrote: > > in a different mailing list it was implied that if a person uses protonmail > they must be up to no good > i've used protonmail for about 6 months now and been satisfied > what am i missing > Services like protonmail have an importan

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-09 Thread Francesco Florian
On Fr, 09 Jul 2021, Teemu Likonen wrote: > Excellent Emacs mail clients which I know: Notmuch Emacs and Gnus. Both > can render HTML mail in text format using a variable width font. Actually both can feed the html to a (customizable) renderer and display the result. Best -- Francesco Florian

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-09 Thread John Hasler
Andrei writes: > Did you mean maildrop here? I meant mailagent. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-09 Thread Teemu Likonen
* 2021-07-09 10:09:38+0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > One thing I forgot to mention about (neo)mutt is the level of automation > that can be achieved in day-to-day tasks. > Probably the only other clients that can match (and possibly surpass > this) are those based on Emacs, though the learning cu

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 08 iul 21, 19:38:36, Dan Ritter wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > I can only recommend things I have reasonably recent experience with. > > Mutt's awesome. I use it many times a day. [...] > Only mutt can handle 500,000 pieces of mail in an archive in a > way that is both performa

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 08 iul 21, 18:14:22, John Hasler wrote: > Gene writes: > > As do those of us who use fetchmail to feed procmail, and procmail with > > some spamassassin for deaths and diversions to feed the TDE version of > > kmail-1.9, all totally background processes. So it is all automatic... > > Poly

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-08 Thread Dan Ritter
Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 08 iul 21, 12:26:14, Curt wrote: > > On 2021-07-08, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > > wrote: > > > > > I understand that the use of terminal software may be some advantage but > > > > The use of terminal software can be fatal. > > > > I use alpine myself, but

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-08 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > As do those of us who use fetchmail to feed procmail, and procmail with > some spamassassin for deaths and diversions to feed the TDE version of > kmail-1.9, all totally background processes. So it is all automatic... Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside writes: > This sound like the s

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-08 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-07-08 9:53 a.m., Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 08 July 2021 08:34:26 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 12:26:14PM -, Curt wrote: >>> On 2021-07-08, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: I understand that the use of terminal software may be some >>

Re: Mail Reader (updated)

2021-07-08 Thread Francesco Florian
On Do, 08 Jul 2021, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > and Offlineiap3 didn't work either. Interesting, I didn't experience this, it seems that it is less stable than I thought. > mbsync has worked reliably as an offlineimap replacement > IMHO: DON'T USE OFFLINEIMAP[3] any more :) I won't replace it unti

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 08 iul 21, 12:26:14, Curt wrote: > On 2021-07-08, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > I understand that the use of terminal software may be some advantage but > > The use of terminal software can be fatal. > > I use alpine myself, but the core members of the group---who sometime

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 08 July 2021 08:34:26 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 12:26:14PM -, Curt wrote: > > On 2021-07-08, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > I understand that the use of terminal software may be some > > > advantage but > > > > The use of terminal software ca

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-08 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 12:26:14PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2021-07-08, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > I understand that the use of terminal software may be some advantage but > > The use of terminal software can be fatal. Definitely. It may get... addictive. > I use alpine myself

Re: Mail Reader (updated)

2021-07-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 11:24:35AM +0200, Francesco Florian wrote: > Hi, > I use a combination of three things; I don't think it's the setup you want, > but some of them can be replaced with others. > 1. offlineimap to fetch the emails from the mail server and store them in > Maildir format. As t

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-08 Thread Curt
On 2021-07-08, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > I understand that the use of terminal software may be some advantage but The use of terminal software can be fatal. I use alpine myself, but the core members of the group---who sometimes remind me of the dinosaurs in the back row of AA mee

Re: Mail Reader (updated)

2021-07-08 Thread Hans
Am Donnerstag, 8. Juli 2021, 10:17:25 CEST schrieb Polyna-Maude Racicot- Summerside: Hi, maybe you might want to take a look at clawsmail. Personally I am very happy with kmail, but if you do not want to run plasma, then it might be the wrong choice. However, you can run kmail in LXDE, as LXD

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-08 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 01:08:03PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 08 iul 21, 10:53:09, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 11:39:42AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > Any folder with more than a few hundred messages should probably be > > > converted to

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