Re: how NOT to work with debian

On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 01:25:48AM +0200, Richard Lyons wrote: > I previously today posted my problem with KDE breaking. Not getting any quick > help, I tried to use aptitude to update, thinking that if the KDE supplied > with Knoppix were to be updated, it would be reconfigured and solve my >

Re: how NOT to work with debian

Trust me when i say by killing X you have not done ANYTHING that bad. this can all be fixed ease most likely. if you let debconf change your XF86Config-4 and did not use the correct video driver in the install then that could be your problem. There are some other possiblities but i would start

Re: how NOT to work with debian

On Monday 11 August 2003 4:08 pm, Michael D. Schleif wrote: > > > Try this: > > > > > > > > > > >.7%4 0gated-at.bofh.it> > > > > We-ell. That looks horrible. 31 or 32 packages to remove by name [...] > All I know is that

Re: Changing window managers The Debian Way (was Re: how NOT to work with debian)

On Monday 11 August 2003 4:39 am, Ron Johnson wrote: [...] > Isn't it The Debian Way to do: > # update-alternatives --config x-window-manager Now that's useful. I was able to select icewm. A bit clumsy, but at least it runs. Mozilla, qcad, gimp, gnumeric, abiword (not used it before, but if OO

Re: how NOT to work with debian

On Monday 11 August 2003 5:06 am, Michael D. Schleif wrote: [...kde dead after upgrade...] > Try this: > > > 0gated-at.bofh.it> We-ell. That looks horrible. 31 or 32 packages to remove by name (and the names of sev

Re: how NOT to work with debian

On Monday 11 August 2003 3:39 am, Damien Solley wrote: > It seems to me that if you are seeing the debian logo (xdm, kdm?) then X > is NOT broken. X is starting, but not giving a login prompt (or was it > set to auto-login?). I hate graphic logins, so I always set to text loginand startx explicit

Re: how NOT to work with debian

On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:35:00 +0200 Richard Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We-ell. That looks horrible. 31 or 32 packages to remove by name (and > the names of several are truncated by the display from dpkg -l so I don't > even > know them all). But dpkg --configure kdebase leads to dependen

Re: how NOT to work with debian

After writing the .xinitrc, give it executable permissions: chmod +x .xinitrc If startkde doesn't exist, then you will have to use something else (xterm, icewm, xfce, whatever) until you can get kde installed properly. See my previous mail. On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 10:18, Richard Lyons wrot

Re: how NOT to work with debian

Also sprach Richard Lyons (Mon 11 Aug 02003 at 11:28:17PM +0200): > On Monday 11 August 2003 4:08 pm, Michael D. Schleif wrote: > > > > > Try this: > > > > > > > > > > >.7%4 0gated-at.bofh.it> > > > > > > We-ell. That looks

Re: how NOT to work with debian

On Monday 11 August 2003 4:11 am, Damien Solley wrote: > Looks like X is running fine. You just need a window manager other than > twm! > from a console, edit your ~/.xinitrc file. For simplicity, this file can > have just one line, reading: > startkde That fails - command not found > > Tha

Re: how NOT to work with debian

On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 02:03:14 +0200 Richard Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes. I do 'startx' - it switches to tty7 and a big debian logo on > crumpled paper appears. Looks like correct screen res. etc. The mouse is > active. There is a square thing called 'main' with a paperclip icon and >

Re: how NOT to work with debian

On Monday 11 August 2003 5:19 am, Damien Solley wrote: > Yes, it seems kde is not installed. startkde should work. > Perhaps you should rerun apt-get and see if you can install kde? > apt-get install kdebase > Perhaps there is a problem with the installation? Maybe even run: > apt-get i

Re: how NOT to work with debian

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Also sprach Richard Lyons (Mon 11 Aug 02003 at 09:35:00AM +0200): >> On Monday 11 August 2003 5:06 am, Michael D. Schleif wrote: >> [...kde dead after upgrade...] >> >> > Try this: >> > >> > >> >

Re: how NOT to work with debian

It seems to me that if you are seeing the debian logo (xdm, kdm?) then X is NOT broken. X is starting, but not giving a login prompt (or was it set to auto-login?). If KDE is b0rked, then you should still likely get Can you be more specific about the problem? Was the computer set to auto-login when

Re: how NOT to work with debian

On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 18:13, Howell Evans wrote: > Trust me when i say by killing X you have not done ANYTHING that bad. > this can all be fixed ease most likely. Examining /var/log/XFree86.0.log should also help. > if you let debconf change your XF86Config-4 and did not use the correct > video

Re: how NOT to work with debian

what is in your .xinitrc? all you have to have in it is "startkde". i think its startkde anyways. if it isnt that its kdestart. cheers -Howell Richard Lyons wrote: On Monday 11 August 2003 3:36 am, Antony Gelberg wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 01:25:48AM +0200, Richard Lyons wrote: [...

Re: how NOT to work with debian

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Also sprach Richard Lyons (Mon 11 Aug 02003 at 09:35:00AM +0200): > On Monday 11 August 2003 5:06 am, Michael D. Schleif wrote: > [...kde dead after upgrade...] > > > Try this: > > > > > >

Re: how NOT to work with debian

Looks like X is running fine. You just need a window manager other than twm! from a console, edit your ~/.xinitrc file. For simplicity, this file can have just one line, reading: startkde That'll start kde (if it's installed correctly). Otherwise you can specify: gnome-session #(

Re: how NOT to work with debian

Yes, it seems kde is not installed. startkde should work. Perhaps you should rerun apt-get and see if you can install kde? apt-get install kdebase Perhaps there is a problem with the installation? Maybe even run: apt-get install kdebase --reinstall Otherwise, you could (if desper

Re: how NOT to work with debian

On Monday 11 August 2003 1:43 am, Howell Evans wrote: > what is in your .xinitrc? > > all you have to have in it is "startkde". i think its startkde anyways. > if it isnt that its kdestart. No ~/.xinitrc at all. I wrote one for a user and did 'startx' - got same thing, ut after a cuple of second

Re: how NOT to work with debian

You're just running WindowMaker. Check to see if KDE is installed correctly, first. If it is, then simply type "ln -sf /usr/bin/startkde /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager" and jab at the Enter key. I'm not sure whether or not this might break something with Debian's alternatives system (or simply

Re: how NOT to work with debian

On Monday 11 August 2003 3:36 am, Antony Gelberg wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 01:25:48AM +0200, Richard Lyons wrote: [...general description snipped...] > Give more technical detail. How are you trying to start X? Most > importantly of all, what do the error messages say? Yes. I do 'startx'

Re: how NOT to work with debian

Also sprach Richard Lyons (Mon 11 Aug 02003 at 01:25:48AM +0200): > I previously today posted my problem with KDE breaking. Not getting any quick > help, I tried to use aptitude to update, thinking that if the KDE supplied > with Knoppix were to be updated, it would be reconfigured and solve my

Re: how NOT to work with debian

* Richard Lyons ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Monday 11 August 2003 3:36 am, Antony Gelberg wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 01:25:48AM +0200, Richard Lyons wrote: > [...general description snipped...] > > Give more technical detail. How are you trying to start X? Most > > importantly of all,