Re: Hard Drive Encryption

2018-05-22 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
On 22/05/2018 19:25, Matthew Crews wrote: On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 6:33:17 AM MST you wrote: It is possible to encrypt a hard drive at anytime in Debian? HP Garcia Yes, using any number of tools, including LUKS. Is it possible to encrypt your root partition at any time? Not while the system

Re: Hard Drive Encryption

2018-05-22 Thread Teemu Likonen
Herb Garcia [2018-05-22 06:33:17-07] wrote: > It is possible to encrypt a hard drive at anytime in Debian? As others have already told the tool/system is LUKS. If by "anytime" you mean convert a running system and partition then the answer is no. You must create a new encrypted partition, open th

Re: Hard Drive Encryption

2018-05-22 Thread Matthew Crews
On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 6:33:17 AM MST you wrote: > It is possible to encrypt a hard drive at anytime in Debian? > > HP Garcia Yes, using any number of tools, including LUKS. Is it possible to encrypt your root partition at any time? Not while the system is running, as far as I know. If it is,

Re: Hard Drive Encryption

2018-05-22 Thread Eero Volotinen
yes, with luks. ti 22. toukok. 2018 klo 16.34 Herb Garcia kirjoitti: > It is possible to encrypt a hard drive at anytime in Debian? > > HP Garcia > >

Re: Hard Drive Issues - smartmontools

2015-01-06 Thread Jape Person
On 01/06/2015 01:30 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Dienstag, 6. Januar 2015, 12:21:45 schrieb Jape Person: Hello, folks! Please help me save my old Sony VAIO desktop system. I have two very old Sony VAIO systems, one desktop and one notebook. They have PATA drives. I run Debian testing (upda

Re: Hard Drive Issues - smartmontools

2015-01-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 6. Januar 2015, 12:21:45 schrieb Jape Person: > Hello, folks! > > Please help me save my old Sony VAIO desktop system. > > I have two very old Sony VAIO systems, one desktop and one > notebook. They have PATA drives. I run Debian testing (updated > every day) on them. They've run t

Re: hard drive clean / microsoft hidden partition

2012-09-23 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 12:33:47PM -0700, Scarletdown wrote: > On 9/22/2012 12:20 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/yourdrive bs=1M > > But does that remove the partitions themselves? I thought the OP > was wanting to actually delete the MS partitions, which are used to > resto

Re: hard drive clean / microsoft hidden partition

2012-09-23 Thread Brian
On Sun 23 Sep 2012 at 15:41:06 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 23/09/12 15:30, Camaleón wrote: > > > >> please respond by email only as I do not have reliable email > > > > I think you meant "by telephone". If so, you have to be kidding :-) > > How did that get changed? The original post

Re: hard drive clean / microsoft hidden partition

2012-09-23 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 23/09/12 15:30, Camaleón wrote: > >> please respond by email only as I do not have reliable email > > I think you meant "by telephone". If so, you have to be kidding :-) How did that get changed? The original post most certainly said "telephone". I had the same thought as Camaleón -- Tony

Re: hard drive clean / microsoft hidden partition

2012-09-23 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:31:06 -0400, d d wrote: > I need advice on removal of the microsoft hidden partition and other > software from a hard drive > leaving a completely clean hard drive. You can use your manufacturer's hard drive disk utilities to perform a low-level format. > please respond

Re: hard drive clean / microsoft hidden partition

2012-09-22 Thread Russell L. Harris
* d d [120922 18:51]: > I need advice on removal of the microsoft hidden partition and other > software from a hard drive > leaving a completely clean hard drive. > > please respond by email only as I do not have reliable email > > Dick > 315+399-6113 It sounds as if your wish is simply to purg

Re: hard drive clean / microsoft hidden partition

2012-09-22 Thread Jude DaShiell
http://dban.sf.net/ ought to help. download iso and burn to dvd or cd and read up on dban and boot dban disk and dban will clean windows real good. I think enter at the boot: prompt autostart 5 then go away and let dban do its work. A 200MB disk if I remember right took 8 hours to clean so f

Re: hard drive clean / microsoft hidden partition

2012-09-22 Thread Scarletdown
On 9/22/2012 12:56 PM, Neal Murphy wrote: Yes. The command writes zeroes to every block on the drive. Recovering the data would require dismantling the drive and using specialized hardware to read the edges of each track (to find residual data). It's not a cryptographically secure erase, but fo

Re: hard drive clean / microsoft hidden partition

2012-09-22 Thread Neal Murphy
On Saturday, September 22, 2012 03:33:47 PM Scarletdown wrote: > On 9/22/2012 12:20 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Sb, 22 sep 12, 14:31:06, d d wrote: > >> I need advice on removal of the microsoft hidden partition and other > >> software from a hard drive > >> leaving a completely clean hard dri

Re: hard drive clean / microsoft hidden partition

2012-09-22 Thread Scarletdown
On 9/22/2012 12:20 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 22 sep 12, 14:31:06, d d wrote: I need advice on removal of the microsoft hidden partition and other software from a hard drive leaving a completely clean hard drive. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/yourdrive bs=1M But does that remove the partitio

Re: hard drive clean / microsoft hidden partition

2012-09-22 Thread Scarletdown
On 9/22/2012 11:31 AM, d d wrote: I need advice on removal of the microsoft hidden partition and other software from a hard drive leaving a completely clean hard drive. please respond by email only as I do not have reliable email Since when is GMail not reliable email? Anyway, since you are

Re: hard drive clean / microsoft hidden partition

2012-09-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 22 sep 12, 14:31:06, d d wrote: > I need advice on removal of the microsoft hidden partition and other > software from a hard drive > leaving a completely clean hard drive. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/yourdrive bs=1M > please respond by email only as I do not have reliable email http://www.d

Re: Hard drive failing? [OT]

2011-10-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011, Bob Proulx wrote: > Is that "-d sat" needed anymore? I think that these days it is always Sometimes it is. I don't recall where I needed it, but I think it was on a SATA disk connected to a SAS HBA. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring

Re: Hard drive failing? [OT]

2011-10-04 Thread Bob Proulx
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > You probably also want to use "-d sat" on all smartctl commands if it is > an directly attached ATA device (i.e. not USB, and not connected through > a hardware RAID card). Is that "-d sat" needed anymore? I think that these days it is always automatically det

Re: Hard drive failing? [OT]

2011-10-04 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011, Mark Panen wrote: > # 1 Extended offlineCompleted: read failure 90% 17291 > 1019262483 Get a new disk, transfer all the important data you still can (or restore from backups), secure erase, and send it in for replacement if it is still in warranty. --

Re: Hard drive failing? [OT]

2011-10-04 Thread Mark Panen
On 4 October 2011 20:00, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Tue, 04 Oct 2011, Mark Panen wrote: >> I am running "smartctl -t long /dev/xxx" how do i  get the output of >> the log file once it's finished? man page is unclear. > > smartctl --xall will tell you everything and then some.  If it d

Re: Hard drive failing? [OT]

2011-10-04 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011, Mark Panen wrote: > I am running "smartctl -t long /dev/xxx" how do i get the output of > the log file once it's finished? man page is unclear. smartctl --xall will tell you everything and then some. If it doesn't work, use smartctl -a. You probably also want to use "-d sat

Re: Hard drive failing? [OT]

2011-10-04 Thread Mark Panen
On 4 October 2011 17:55, Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 17:44:32 +0200, Mark Panen wrote: > >> Hi My 1.5 TB WD HDD has 384 bad sectors according to "fsck.ext4 -cvf >> /dev/x" Is this bad? Since last year October the HDD has been very slow >> to browse the folders. > > Mmm... hard to tell :-

Re: Hard drive failing? [OT]

2011-10-04 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 17:44:32 +0200, Mark Panen wrote: > Hi My 1.5 TB WD HDD has 384 bad sectors according to "fsck.ext4 -cvf > /dev/x" Is this bad? Since last year October the HDD has been very slow > to browse the folders. Mmm... hard to tell :-? Run "smartctl" (long test mode) and send the rep

Re: Hard drive failing? [OT]

2011-10-04 Thread Claudius Hubig
Mark Panen wrote: >Hi My 1.5 TB WD HDD has 384 bad sectors according to "fsck.ext4 -cvf >/dev/x" Is this bad? Since last year October the HDD has been very >slow to browse the folders. Probably, yes. The output of dmesg and smartctl -a /dev/x would be helpful. In any case, you should quickly back

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-15 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:17:14 +1000, yudi v wrote: > Got a reply back from WD asking me to return the drive, I wiped the > drive and tested the drive to see if it will throw up errors. > > Again, both the WD tool and the Debian disk utility do not report any > bad sectors. > > Can anyone explain

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-14 Thread yudi v
Got a reply back from WD asking me to return the drive, I wiped the drive and tested the drive to see if it will throw up errors. Again, both the WD tool and the Debian disk utility do not report any bad sectors. Can anyone explain what's going on? -- Kind regards, Yudi

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 11/09/11 23:27, consul tores wrote: > Adding Slackware test information: > > bash-4.1# fdisk -l > > Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors > Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes > Sector size (logical/physical): 512

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 11/09/11 22:58, consul tores wrote: > 2011/9/11 Scott Ferguson : >> On 11/09/11 15:38, consul tores wrote: >>> >>> 2011/9/10 yudi v: >> >> -- Kind regards, Yudi >>> >>> I think that, it is a problem with Squeeze fdisk+GPT; please try >>> cfdisk, it seems updated. >>> >>> >> >>

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-11 Thread consul tores
Adding Slackware test information: bash-4.1# fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 byte

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-11 Thread consul tores
2011/9/11 Scott Ferguson : > On 11/09/11 15:38, consul tores wrote: >> >> 2011/9/10 yudi v: > > >>> >>> -- >>> Kind regards, >>> Yudi >> >> I think that, it is a problem with Squeeze fdisk+GPT; please try >> cfdisk, it seems updated. >> >> > > Yudi is not using GPT. Ooops, it should says: Squeeze

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-11 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 11/09/11 20:20, Andrew McGlashan wrote: Scott Ferguson wrote: Where did you get a version of cfdisk that is installable on normal Debian system? Umm, it is on my old lenny box and it is on my new squeeze box. I didn't do anything special to install it. Most installs that I do are minimal ba

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-11 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Scott Ferguson wrote: Where did you get a version of cfdisk that is installable on normal Debian system? Umm, it is on my old lenny box and it is on my new squeeze box. I didn't do anything special to install it. Most installs that I do are minimal base installs to start with. -- Kind Reg

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-11 Thread yudi v
> > cfdisk and fdisk are both part of (upstream) util-linux-ng[*1], so both > handle large sectors the same. In Squeeze they are both (currently) at > 2.17.2-9. > > I used gparted-live-0.8.1-3 (debian based with 2.6.38 kernel) to partition it, I believe util-linux version on this image is 2.19. The

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-11 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 11/09/11 15:38, consul tores wrote: 2011/9/10 yudi v: -- Kind regards, Yudi I think that, it is a problem with Squeeze fdisk+GPT; please try cfdisk, it seems updated. Yudi is not using GPT. cfdisk and fdisk are both part of (upstream) util-linux-ng[*1], so both handle large sectors

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-11 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 10/09/11 15:51, consul tores wrote: 2011/9/9 yudi v: I would simply request for a hard disk replacement, you will rest more relaxed after that :-) I will definitely ask for a replacement as it's still under warranty but I want to make sure it's not a software issue. -- Kind regards, Yudi

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-11 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 11/09/11 14:09, yudi v wrote: d-i uses parted (partman). NOTE: neither fdisk or parted is the cause of your original problem... This is what I thought. I suspect it's got something to do with the kernel. I am just using the default Sqeeze kernel 2.6.32-5-686. I'm unable to advice as

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-10 Thread consul tores
2011/9/10 yudi v : > d-i uses parted (partman). >> >> I know the first release of Squeeze failed to properly align 4K sectors >> with partitions - but using the udeb from Wheezy fixed that for me - it >> could be fixed in a previous point release, and, it could be just a DOS >> partition table issu

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-10 Thread yudi v
d-i uses parted (partman). > I know the first release of Squeeze failed to properly align 4K sectors > with partitions - but using the udeb from Wheezy fixed that for me - it > could be fixed in a previous point release, and, it could be just a DOS > partition table issue (what I used in that inst

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-10 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 10/09/11 18:22, yudi v wrote: Use GPD instead of DOS partition types, *and* use parted instead of fdisk. I used fdisk to partition the disk before installing the OS. d-i uses parted (partman). I know the first release of Squeeze failed to properly align 4K sectors with partitions

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-10 Thread yudi v
> Use GPD instead of DOS partition types, *and* use parted instead of fdisk. > I used fdisk to partition the disk before installing the OS. Just to make sure all the partitions started on the physical sector boundaries. The fdisk output posted above looks fine, doesn't it? I followed this article

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-10 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 10/09/11 16:39, yudi v wrote: Have you tried # parted -l, fdisk works with cylinders. here's the parted output: Model: ATA WDC WD7500BPKT-6 (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 750GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B Partition Table: msdos Sorry:- fdisk can't deal with *non-*4096B sectors.

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-10 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 10/09/11 16:39, yudi v wrote: Have you tried # parted -l, fdisk works with cylinders. here's the parted output: Model: ATA WDC WD7500BPKT-6 (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 750GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B -- Kind regards, Yudi fdisk can't deal with non-4096B sectors. It

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-09 Thread yudi v
> Have you tried # parted -l, fdisk works with cylinders. > here's the parted output: Model: ATA WDC WD7500BPKT-6 (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 750GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B Partition Table: msdos Number Start End SizeType File system Flags 1 1049kB 53.7GB 53.

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-09 Thread consul tores
2011/9/9 yudi v : > I would simply request for a hard disk replacement, >> >> you will rest more relaxed after that :-) > > I will definitely ask for a replacement as it's still under warranty but I > want to make sure it's not a software issue. > -- > Kind regards, > Yudi Have you tried # parted

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-09 Thread yudi v
> > I would just return-back the unit. It is clearly new (less than 400 hours > of use!) and should not throw any error nor message about its SMART > health. This does not have to mean a bad drive per se, of course, but > better safe than sorry. If a new unit still fails, I would recheck the > cabl

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-09 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 00:47:58 +1000, yudi v wrote: > smartctl -a /dev/sda output > Device Model: WDC WD7500BPKT-60PK4T0 (...) Fiuu!... it's a WD :-P > Error 669 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 312 hours (13 days + 0 > hours) > When the command that caused the error occurred, the devi

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-09 Thread yudi v
smartctl -a /dev/sda output smartctl 5.40 2010-07-12 r3124 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Device Model: WDC WD7500BPKT-60PK4T0 Serial Number:WD-WX31E1177192 Firmware Version:

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-09 Thread yudi v
I would simply request for a hard disk replacement, > you will rest more relaxed after that :-) > I will definitely ask for a replacement as it's still under warranty but I want to make sure it's not a software issue. -- Kind regards, Yudi

Re: Hard drive bad sector warning

2011-09-09 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 22:50:39 +1000, yudi v wrote: > Disk utility tells that there are bad sectors on the new hard drive. "New" driver with bad sectors? What is the output of "smartctl -a /dev/sda" > I had the same issue before and I was about to send it back to get it > replaced. I wrote rand

Re: hard drive configuration

2011-06-11 Thread Freeman
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 02:28:26PM +0200, Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:28:32 -0700 > Freeman wrote: > > >The disadvantage is wasted space, since each partition has some expansion > >room that equals lost contiguous bulk space. (Reading up on LVM's is on my > >todo list.) > >

Re: hard drive configuration

2011-06-11 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:28:32 -0700 Freeman wrote: >The disadvantage is wasted space, since each partition has some expansion >room that equals lost contiguous bulk space. (Reading up on LVM's is on my >todo list.) You really should, there's no reason not to use LVM, especially for wacky setup

Re: hard drive configuration

2011-06-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 04:50 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 06/11/2011 04:22 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > [snip] > > > > I don't like to insert a CD either :). > > > > I can't tell if you're telling a joke or being eccentric. Both :), kidding here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@

Re: hard drive configuration

2011-06-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/11/2011 04:22 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: [snip] I don't like to insert a CD either :). I can't tell if you're telling a joke or being eccentric. -- "Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.

Re: hard drive configuration

2011-06-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 04:17 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 6/10/2011 2:11 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 21:49 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> for single user or > >> > >> / > >> /home > >> /media/big -> /home/$user1/big > >> /media/big -> /home/$user2/big > > > > For a sing

Re: hard drive configuration

2011-06-11 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 6/10/2011 2:11 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 21:49 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> for single user or >> >> / >> /home >> /media/big -> /home/$user1/big >> /media/big -> /home/$user2/big > > For a single user I switched from / + /home to / only. > For special tasks I add e.g.

Re: hard drive configuration

2011-06-10 Thread Freeman
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 09:23:08AM -0700, prad wrote: > in the past we've had two partitions: > / > /data > into the latter went home, www, mail and we'd softlink from the > appropriate places. the nice thing about this setup has always been that > when we upgraded or tried a different system there

Re: hard drive configuration

2011-06-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 00:54 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 10 iun 11, 21:11:49, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > The advantage to have / only, including /home is, that you don't need > > think that much about allocation of free space. You anyway can do > > separated backups. And having tons of

Re: hard drive configuration

2011-06-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 10 iun 11, 21:11:49, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > The advantage to have / only, including /home is, that you don't need > think that much about allocation of free space. You anyway can do > separated backups. And having tons of individual mounted directories > won't speed up anything or won't ha

Re: hard drive configuration

2011-06-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 21:49 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > for single user or > > / > /home > /media/big -> /home/$user1/big > /media/big -> /home/$user2/big For a single user I switched from / + /home to / only. For special tasks I add e.g. /music_productions to /mnt or /home. The advantage to

Re: hard drive configuration

2011-06-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 06 iun 11, 09:23:08, prad wrote: > in the past we've had two partitions: > / > /data > into the latter went home, www, mail and we'd softlink from the > appropriate places. the nice thing about this setup has always been that > when we upgraded or tried a different system there wasn't any da

Re: hard drive configuration

2011-06-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/06/2011 11:23 AM, prad wrote: in the past we've had two partitions: / /data into the latter went home, www, mail and we'd softlink from the appropriate places. the nice thing about this setup has always been that when we upgraded or tried a different system there wasn't any data copying to

Re: hard drive configuration

2011-06-06 Thread Chris Brennan
* prad [2011-06-06 09:23:08 -0700]: > in the past we've had two partitions: > / > /data > into the latter went home, www, mail and we'd softlink from the > appropriate places. the nice thing about this setup has always been that > when we upgraded or tried a different system there wasn't any data

Re: Hard Drive Spin Down

2008-10-17 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 08:56:51AM +0200, Neil wrote: > On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 04:26:17PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > >> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:46:30 -0400 > >> "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > On Thu,

Re: Hard Drive Spin Down

2008-10-16 Thread Neil
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 04:26:17PM -0400, Celejar wrote: >> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:46:30 -0400 >> "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:35:17PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > >> I underst

Re: Hard Drive Spin Down

2008-10-16 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 04:26:17PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:46:30 -0400 > "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:35:17PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > I understand that I don't need much processing power; that's why I was > thinking of an embe

Re: Hard Drive Spin Down

2008-10-16 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:46:30 -0400 "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:35:17PM -0400, Celejar wrote: ... > > But IIUC, the power draw, especially of an old and probably energy > > inefficient computer, is much higher than that of a dedicated external > > di

Re: Hard Drive Spin Down

2008-10-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008, Sam Leon wrote: >>> Hmm, sounded like a good idea but with the drive unmounted and spun >>> down, it still spins up right before a shut down or a reboot. :( >> >> Hmmm, very puzzling. I'd ask lkml. Not puzziling at all. Most HDs have utter crap inside that is too dumb to f

Re: Hard Drive Spin Down

2008-10-16 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:35:17PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:33:11 -0400 > "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Or, the cheapest external multi-drive enclosure I've found is called > > someone's old computer. Turn it on when you want to do a backup, backup > >

Re: Hard Drive Spin Down

2008-10-16 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:33:11 -0400 "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > Or, the cheapest external multi-drive enclosure I've found is called > someone's old computer. Turn it on when you want to do a backup, backup > over rsync or NFS, and turn it off. If it does wake-on-lan you

Re: Hard Drive Spin Down

2008-10-16 Thread Sam Leon
Ron Johnson wrote: On 10/15/08 19:16, Sam Leon wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 10/14/08 12:12, Sam Leon wrote: I have added a large drive to my desktop for back up purposes. I am using rsnapshot to backup just a couple of times a week. Since the drive will be rarely accessed I added: /dev/sd

Re: Hard Drive Spin Down

2008-10-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On 10/15/08 19:16, Sam Leon wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 10/14/08 12:12, Sam Leon wrote: I have added a large drive to my desktop for back up purposes. I am using rsnapshot to backup just a couple of times a week. Since the drive will be rarely accessed I added: /dev/sdb { spindown_time =

Re: Hard Drive Spin Down

2008-10-15 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 07:16:33PM -0500, Sam Leon wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >On 10/14/08 12:12, Sam Leon wrote: > Hmm, sounded like a good idea but with the drive unmounted and spun > down, it still spins up right before a shut down or a reboot. :( Over the years I've tried to sort this ou

Re: Hard Drive Spin Down

2008-10-15 Thread Sam Leon
Ron Johnson wrote: On 10/14/08 12:12, Sam Leon wrote: I have added a large drive to my desktop for back up purposes. I am using rsnapshot to backup just a couple of times a week. Since the drive will be rarely accessed I added: /dev/sdb { spindown_time = 180 } To hdparm.conf to spin down t

Re: Hard Drive Spin Down

2008-10-14 Thread Paul Johnson
Sam Leon wrote: > Does the hard drive have to spin up in order to flush a buffer or > something before shut down? Any way to get around this? Unmount the volume when not in use. Unmounted volumes do not need to spin up during shutdown. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Hard Drive Spin Down

2008-10-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On 10/14/08 14:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Ron is correct (as usual); there are lots of housekeeping that must Just on the easy stuff. Debian does so much for us, and daemons like Postfix are so stable, with simple-to-read text files that they can run unattended for years, leading to

Re: Hard Drive Spin Down

2008-10-14 Thread owens
> > > > Original Message >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Subject: Re: Hard Drive Spin Down >Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:25:58 -0500 > >>On 10/14/08 12:12, Sam Leon wrote: >>> I have added a large drive to my deskt

Re: Hard Drive Spin Down

2008-10-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On 10/14/08 12:12, Sam Leon wrote: I have added a large drive to my desktop for back up purposes. I am using rsnapshot to backup just a couple of times a week. Since the drive will be rarely accessed I added: /dev/sdb { spindown_time = 180 } To hdparm.conf to spin down the disk after 15 min

Re: hard drive problem [SOLVED - possibly]

2008-08-14 Thread Adam Hardy
Adam Hardy on 07/08/08 10:25, wrote: Adam Hardy on 06/08/08 01:26, wrote: Brian McKee on 06/08/08 00:30, wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Forsaken on 05/08/08 19:25, wrote: On Aug 5, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Adam Hardy wrote: I just took the hard drives f

Re: hard drive problem

2008-08-07 Thread Adam Hardy
Adam Hardy on 06/08/08 01:26, wrote: Brian McKee on 06/08/08 00:30, wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Forsaken on 05/08/08 19:25, wrote: On Aug 5, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Adam Hardy wrote: I just took the hard drives from one machine and installed them int

Re: hard drive problem

2008-08-06 Thread Adam Hardy
Brian McKee on 06/08/08 00:30, wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Forsaken on 05/08/08 19:25, wrote: On Aug 5, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Adam Hardy wrote: I just took the hard drives from one machine and installed them into another with a similar 500MHz CPU a

Re: hard drive problem

2008-08-06 Thread Dave Thayer
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 05:53:05PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: > Andrei Popescu on 05/08/08 17:22, wrote: > >> How old is that mobo anyway? 750 GB might be just a bit too much for it. > > Argh! Well, I don't really know anymore - probably 1998. So 10 years, +/- > 2 years. But then, the other mobo was

Re: hard drive problem

2008-08-05 Thread Brian McKee
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Forsaken on 05/08/08 19:25, wrote: >> >> On Aug 5, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Adam Hardy wrote: >>> >>> I just took the hard drives from one machine and installed them into >>> another with a similar 500MHz CPU and mobo, but it hasn't

Re: hard drive problem

2008-08-05 Thread Adam Hardy
Forsaken on 05/08/08 19:25, wrote: On Aug 5, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Adam Hardy wrote: I just took the hard drives from one machine and installed them into another with a similar 500MHz CPU and mobo, but it hasn't worked out smoothly. fsck.ext3: no such file or directory while trying to read /dev/h

Re: hard drive problem

2008-08-05 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue,05.Aug.08, 17:53:05, Adam Hardy wrote: > Andrei Popescu on 05/08/08 17:22, wrote: >> On Tue,05.Aug.08, 15:51:44, Adam Hardy wrote: >>> I just took the hard drives from one machine and installed them into >>> another with a similar 500MHz CPU and mobo, but it hasn't worked out >>> smoothly.

Re: hard drive problem

2008-08-05 Thread Adam Hardy
Andrei Popescu on 05/08/08 17:22, wrote: On Tue,05.Aug.08, 15:51:44, Adam Hardy wrote: I just took the hard drives from one machine and installed them into another with a similar 500MHz CPU and mobo, but it hasn't worked out smoothly. The first drive is 40Gb and seems fine, but the second, a

Re: hard drive problem

2008-08-05 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue,05.Aug.08, 15:51:44, Adam Hardy wrote: > I just took the hard drives from one machine and installed them into > another with a similar 500MHz CPU and mobo, but it hasn't worked out > smoothly. > > The first drive is 40Gb and seems fine, but the second, a 750Gb drive, has > a partition tha

Re: Hard Drive Problem

2008-05-21 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Thomas H. George wrote: After cpu failure and replacement Debian Lenny system bootup fails with a message: /bin/cat: /sys/block/hdb/hdb1/dev No such file or directory This is repeated several times and then again for hdb5. Finally kernel panic. I have run Western Digital's extended tes

Re: hard drive problems

2008-05-06 Thread Alex Samad
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 10:17:23AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 06:08:47PM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: > > On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 09:33:19PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > > On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 07:10:34AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > >

Re: hard drive problems

2008-05-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 06:08:47PM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: > On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 09:33:19PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 07:10:34AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: > > > > > [snip] > > > > ?(if so how) > > > > First, ensure you have good recent backups. > > > > Then

Re: hard drive problems

2008-05-06 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 09:33:19PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 07:10:34AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: > > [snip] > > ?(if so how) > > First, ensure you have good recent backups. > > Then install smartmontools and run a long S.M.A.R.T. test and check the > results. >

Re: hard drive problems

2008-05-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 07:10:34AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: > > May 5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel: ata2: timeout waiting for ADMA IDLE, > stat=0x440 > May 5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel: ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct > 0x7fff SErr 0x0 action 0x0 > May 5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel: ata2.00: CPB resp_fl

Re: hard drive not spinning down.

2008-02-05 Thread Andrew Henry
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > what kernel are you running? the power management seems to be kind of > borked in 2.6.24 and requires some hacking to get it to funciton > reasonably. > 2.6.23-9 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [E

Re: hard drive not spinning down.

2008-02-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 07:22:22PM +0100, Andrew Henry wrote: > I run Lenny on an Acer Aspire 5021WLMi laptop as an ssh server and I > noticed that the hard drive is getting very very hot so that the > touchpad is almost burning hot. I suspect that the drive is not > spinning down when idle (and i

Re: hard drive not spinning down.

2008-02-04 Thread Andrew Henry
Paul Cartwright wrote: Well, if the fans are working on the laptop it should never get burning hot.  There's no reason why a laptop can't run with its drive spinning all the time (unless its on battery and you want to save the battery). I would like it to spin down not just to s

Re: hard drive not spinning down.

2008-02-04 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Mon February 4 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > I run Lenny on an Acer Aspire 5021WLMi laptop as an ssh server and I > > noticed that the hard drive is getting very very hot so that the > > touchpad is almost burning hot.  I suspect that the drive is not > > spinning down when idle (and it's ba

Re: hard drive not spinning down.

2008-02-04 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 07:22:22PM +0100, Andrew Henry wrote: > I run Lenny on an Acer Aspire 5021WLMi laptop as an ssh server and I > noticed that the hard drive is getting very very hot so that the > touchpad is almost burning hot. I suspect that the drive is not > spinning down when idle (and i

Re: Hard Drive hdb becomes hdf !!!

2007-03-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 07:39:33AM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: > I call my computer Phoenix because it has gone through a massive > upgrade. It had 1 GHz cpu, a motherboard with problems and two hard > drives - hda with windoz for a couple of trivial apps and Debian testing > for all the real wo

Re: Hard Drive hdb becomes hdf !!!

2007-03-05 Thread Thomas H. George
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 10:42:11PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 04:21:18PM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: > > I built a new computer with two hard drives and installed XP Home > > Edition on the first drive. The second drive contains my Debian system > > - kernel 2.6.1

Re: Hard Drive hdb becomes hdf !!!

2007-03-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 04:21:18PM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: > I built a new computer with two hard drives and installed XP Home > Edition on the first drive. The second drive contains my Debian system > - kernel 2.6.17 and Testing. I intended to use disc 1 of a Sarge > installation set a

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