Re: Email client; was: Re: Threading.

2019-07-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 06:15:42 (-0700), pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > From: Reco > Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:26:13 +0300 > > In short, please consider using another e-mail client. > > I compose the reply from the debian-user Web page. I don't know of a > MUA capable of reading a page and composing

Re: Email client programs

2004-02-01 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Day Brown wrote (2004-01-31 18:50): >Thorsten Haude wrote: >> * Day Brown wrote (2004-01-31 06:00): >> >Well, now thatcha mention it, I am somewhat bemused by the loss of email >> >functionality since I quit using QWKMAIL and the BBS nets, and went on >> >the internet. >> >> I had similar t

Re: Email client programs

2004-02-01 Thread Day Brown
Thorsten Haude wrote: > > Hi, > > * Day Brown wrote (2004-01-31 06:00): > >Well, now thatcha mention it, I am somewhat bemused by the loss of email > >functionality since I quit using QWKMAIL and the BBS nets, and went on > >the internet. > > I had similar thoughts. I used Crosspoint on Fido, an

Re: Email client programs

2004-01-31 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Day Brown wrote (2004-01-31 06:00): >Well, now thatcha mention it, I am somewhat bemused by the loss of email >functionality since I quit using QWKMAIL and the BBS nets, and went on >the internet. I had similar thoughts. I used Crosspoint on Fido, and still miss some features from both. >

Re: Email client programs

2004-01-31 Thread Nate Duehr
On Friday, Jan 30, 2004, at 22:00 America/Denver, Day Brown wrote: I see where people in email now continually complain of being misquoted, how attribution with the system of single, double, triple,.. angle brackets is often misleading. But my QWKMAIL put my words up here in amber, and before cit

Re: Email client programs

2004-01-31 Thread Brett Carrington
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 09:00:00PM -0800, Day Brown wrote: > Perhaps I have not expressed myself well, but the point is, that it is > more difficult to use email now than it used to be; given the reputation > of the computer business for 'progress', that's odd. So are you looking for a solution? Be

Re: Email client programs

2004-01-31 Thread Day Brown
Well, now thatcha mention it, I am somewhat bemused by the loss of email functionality since I quit using QWKMAIL and the BBS nets, and went on the internet. The BBS posts were 8 bit. You had the entire 256 IBM CMOS bitmaps. The BBS posts offered ANSI color. It's not just mono like this. HTML giv

Re: Email client programs

2004-01-30 Thread John Hasler
Derrick writes: > One possibility is uuMail. It is a commercial mail tool (and protocol) > that does really high compression to minimize the bandwidth needed to > transfer messages. A proprietary version of UUCP. Why not use the real thing? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill El

Re: Email client programs

2004-01-30 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 05:27:42PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: [...] | It's not IMAP, alone, that provides this. It is the IMAP clients | (such as isync or Oops, I forgot to come back and fill this in after the apt-cache search in the other window finished. I meant to say "such as isync

Re: Email client programs

2004-01-30 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 10:59:15PM -0800, Curtis Vaughan wrote: | > | >hi ya curtis | > | >On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Curtis Vaughan wrote: | > | >>But doesn't IMAP have more traffic involved than POP3? I mean each | >>time you connect, it has to check to see what's on the server and | >>what's on your

RE: Email client programs

2004-01-30 Thread Ben Yau
> -Original Message- > From: Ben Yau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > > From: Nate Duehr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Neither POP3 nor IMAP nor anything else will fix a problem at the > > network level. This seems obvious. Either the network works well,

RE: Email client programs

2004-01-29 Thread Soumyadip Modak
Hi, > On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Ben Yau wrote: > > > True, but you can do your best to workaround the network issue. In this > > case, a mail client that would actually do something akin to > > > > retr 1 > > del 1 > > retr 2 > > del 2 > > retr 3 > > del 3 > > > > Instead of retrieving all message

Re: Email client programs

2004-01-28 Thread Mike M
On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 09:44:47PM -0800, Curtis Vaughan wrote: > I know this is not a windows list and I have never yet asked a question > like this on here before, but perhaps there is someone who knows the > answer to this question. > > Because our vessels have to get mail over lines that are

RE: Email client programs

2004-01-28 Thread Alvin Oga
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Ben Yau wrote: > True, but you can do your best to workaround the network issue. In this > case, a mail client that would actually do something akin to > > retr 1 > del 1 > retr 2 > del 2 > retr 3 > del 3 > > Instead of retrieving all messages _and then_ deleting which is

RE: Email client programs

2004-01-28 Thread Ben Yau
> -Original Message- > From: Alvin Oga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 10:50 AM > To: Ben Yau > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Email client programs > On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Ben Yau wrote: > > > True, but you can do your

Re: Email client programs

2004-01-28 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Erich Waelde: > > > I don't think everyone is fully appreciating the problem. > That makes 2 of us ;) > > What comes to my mind: > a. (has been mentioned) use fetchmail to download the messages. Example >listing here: > ># fetchmail -d0 -a -f /etc/fetchmailrc >4 messag

RE: Email client programs

2004-01-28 Thread Ben Yau
> -Original Message- > From: Nate Duehr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 8:00 AM > To: Curtis Vaughan > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Email client programs > > > > Neither POP3 nor IMAP nor anything else will fix a problem

Re: Email client programs

2004-01-28 Thread Nate Duehr
Curtis Vaughan wrote: I know this is not a windows list and I have never yet asked a question like this on here before, but perhaps there is someone who knows the answer to this question. Netscape and Mozilla support "offline" modes where a user can sync themselves to the server and then be offl

Re: Email client programs

2004-01-28 Thread Erich Waelde
Hello Curtis, > I don't think everyone is fully appreciating the problem. That makes 2 of us ;) What comes to my mind: a. (has been mentioned) use fetchmail to download the messages. Example listing here: # fetchmail -d0 -a -f /etc/fetchmailrc 4 messages for myname at my.provider.co

Re: Email client programs

2004-01-28 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 09:44:47PM -0800, Curtis Vaughan wrote: > Because our vessels have to get mail over lines that are rather shaky, > we would like them to pull mail in a way whereby once they've received > a message it is considered downloaded.

Re: Email client programs

2004-01-28 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya curtis On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Curtis Vaughan wrote: > But doesn't IMAP have more traffic involved than POP3? I mean each > time you connect, it has to check to see what's on the server and > what's on your computer. What would be best is a solution that just w/ imap ... NOTHING is on

Re: Email client programs

2004-01-28 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Curtis Vaughan wrote (2004-01-28 06:44): >I know this is not a windows list and I have never yet asked a question >like this on here before, but perhaps there is someone who knows the >answer to this question. How about asking Microsoft support about it? Thorsten -- Jede Glorifizierung

Re: Email client programs

2004-01-28 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya curtis On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Curtis Vaughan wrote: > I know this is not a windows list and I have never yet asked a question > like this on here before, but perhaps there is someone who knows the > answer to this question. > > Because our vessels have to get mail over lines that are rath

Re: Email client programs

2004-01-28 Thread Curtis Vaughan
hi ya curtis On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Curtis Vaughan wrote: But doesn't IMAP have more traffic involved than POP3? I mean each time you connect, it has to check to see what's on the server and what's on your computer. What would be best is a solution that just w/ imap ... NOTHING is on your pc ...

Re: Email client programs

2004-01-27 Thread David Purton
On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 10:16:20PM -0800, Curtis Vaughan wrote: > But doesn't IMAP have more traffic involved than POP3? I mean each > time you connect, it has to check to see what's on the server and > what's on your computer. What would be best is a solution that just > says, "I don't care

Re: Email client programs

2004-01-27 Thread Curtis Vaughan
But doesn't IMAP have more traffic involved than POP3? I mean each time you connect, it has to check to see what's on the server and what's on your computer. What would be best is a solution that just says, "I don't care what you have or don't have, here are some new messages. Take them. "

Re: email client

2003-12-18 Thread Mark Roach
On Wed, 2003-12-17 at 23:06, Paul Johnson wrote: > I guess only some time for you to gain experience living in a gift > culture before you realize why you're wrong there. Good luck getting > help when you need it, I hope that goes well for you. I was never asking for your help, so I don't know w

Re: email client

2003-12-18 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:06:33PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 09:26:17AM -0500, Mark Roach wrote: > > > http://www.linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/#offlist > > > (You sent a private-mail reply to my attempt to help you on a mailing > > > list, and failed to mention having done so

Re: email client

2003-12-17 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 09:26:17AM -0500, Mark Roach wrote: > > http://www.linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/#offlist > > (You sent a private-mail reply to my attempt to help you on a mailing > > list, and failed to mention having done so.) > > No, I sent you

Re: email client

2003-12-17 Thread Mark Roach
On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 19:47, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > http://www.linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/#offlist > (You sent a private-mail reply to my attempt to help you on a mailing > list, and failed to mention having done so.) No, I sent you a private messa

Re: Starting new threads (was: Re: email client (OT))

2003-12-16 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 10:26:41AM -0800, Nunya wrote: > If I hit "e" to edit headers, and add these headers in the right place: > In-Reply-To: > Yeah, just add the message you're replying to to the end of whatever reference header there may be. Th

Re: email client

2003-12-16 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://www.linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/#offlist (You sent a private-mail reply to my attempt to help you on a mailing list, and failed to mention having done so.) On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 02:32:07PM -0500, Mark Roach wrote: > > kmail or mutt are the de-fa

Re: Starting new threads (was: Re: email client (OT))

2003-12-16 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 10:26:41AM -0800, Nunya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 10:18:43AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > Alternatively: deleting any "In-Reply-To:" and "References:" headers, > > if your MUA supports header editing. > > Question: sometimes I delete a messa

Re: Starting new threads (was: Re: email client (OT))

2003-12-16 Thread Nunya
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 10:18:43AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > Alternatively: deleting any "In-Reply-To:" and "References:" headers, > if your MUA supports header editing. Question: sometimes I delete a message and empty my trash, and later decide to reply to a thread. The mailto: in my cvs

Starting new threads (was: Re: email client (OT))

2003-12-16 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:33:23PM -0600, Damon L. Chesser ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Here I like to thank Andreas Janssen for letting me know that replacing > >the subject line on an email does not start a new thread > Opps, I did not know this, what does start a new thread? Composing an em

Re: email client (OT)

2003-12-15 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:33:23 -0600, "Damon L. Chesser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Gruessle wrote: > > >Here I like to thank Andreas Janssen for letting me know that > >replacing the subject line on an email does not start a new thread > > > Opps, I did not know

Re: email client (OT)

2003-12-15 Thread Damon L. Chesser
Gruessle wrote: I have some problems and what I have learned so far is that I need to send you guys more info so you can help me. First think I should do I guess is setup an email client on the Debian box otherwise I will have to type all the errors in to my email. How do I do that and which ema

Re: email client

2003-12-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 04:32:22AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > When I started, I used the email client Pine. It is a basic text-based > mail client. Some people do not like it because it is not Free Software. Not to mention pine lacks important basic f

Re: email client

2003-12-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Please turn on your line wraps to around 72 columns. On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:17:40AM -0800, Gruessle wrote: > How do I do that and which email client is easy to use? kmail or mutt are the de-facto MUAs. I use mutt, myself, but Windows addicts may

Re: email client

2003-12-15 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:17:40AM -0800, Gruessle wrote: > > I have some problems and what I have learned so far is that I need to send you guys > more info so you can help me. > > First think I should do I guess is setup an email client on the Debian box otherwise > I will have to type all th

Re: email client

2003-12-15 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:17:40AM -0800, Gruessle wrote: > > I have some problems and what I have learned so far is that I need to send you guys > more info so you can help me. > > First think I should do I guess is setup an email client on the Debian box otherwise > I will have to type all th

Re: email client

2003-12-15 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Gruessle (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I have some problems and what I have learned so far is that I need to > send you guys more info so you can help me. > > First think I should do I guess is setup an email client on the Debian > box otherwise I will have to type all the errors in to my

Re: email client

2003-12-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:17:40AM -0800, Gruessle ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I have some problems and what I have learned so far is that I need to > send you guys more info so you can help me. ...and wrap your mail at 72 characters. > First think I should do I guess is setup an email clien

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-28 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Fri, 28 Dec 2001 01:40:09PM +0530, Sridhar M.A. insinuated: > On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 09:11:48AM -0600, Drew Raines wrote: >> You can with mutt. Set pager_index_lines to a number greater than 0. >> > Nice feature. How does one switch between the panes? not sure what you mean by panes

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-28 Thread Sridhar M.A.
On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 09:11:48AM -0600, Drew Raines wrote: > > You can with mutt. Set pager_index_lines to a number greater than 0. > Nice feature. How does one switch between the panes? -- Sridhar M.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't look now, but there is a multi-

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-27 Thread Drew Raines
Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > the problem with text based MUAs is that you cannot see > folders/index/message at the same time... (AFAIK, haven't found it in mutt > or pine) You can with mutt. Set pager_index_lines to a number greater than 0. -- Drew

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-27 Thread Erik Steffl
Craig Dickson wrote: ... > If good IMAP support was common in mail clients, I'd probably be more > inclined to explore it, but in my experience many clients either don't > support IMAP, or the support is limited and/or buggy. it's getting better, IMO it's a lot simler than file storage support (

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-27 Thread Erik Steffl
Craig Dickson wrote: > > Erik Steffl wrote: > > > > Also, with fetchmail, you don't have to bother telling your mail client > > > about your POP or IMAP server -- it's one less thing to configure if you > > > > provided that you want to download emails from IMAP which is not a > > very good way

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Erik Steffl
Carel Fellinger wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 05:32:31PM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: > > Craig Dickson wrote: > ... > > I guess, I still like to see it all at once... I guess I can open few > > windows, each with it's own view:-) > > > > BTW the other annoying thing is that it requires pass

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 05:32:31PM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: > Craig Dickson wrote: ... > I guess, I still like to see it all at once... I guess I can open few > windows, each with it's own view:-) > > BTW the other annoying thing is that it requires password to IMAP > everytime I start it - i

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread dman
On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 11:46:44AM -0800, Vaughan, Curtis wrote: | I am wondering what other Debian Users recommend for an email client | program. I like mutt the best. It is good, makes good use of screen real-estate, has good threading and list support, and is light, fast, and stable. The one

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread dman
On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 05:36:15PM -0800, Lev Lvovsky wrote: | On Thu, 27 Dec 2001, martin f krafft wrote: | | > > why the insistence on fetchmail? | > | > it's the unix philosophy -- let one program do its job and do it well, | > let other programs use that... | | hehe, really? I guess you can

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Craig Dickson
Erik Steffl wrote: > > Also, with fetchmail, you don't have to bother telling your mail client > > about your POP or IMAP server -- it's one less thing to configure if you > > provided that you want to download emails from IMAP which is not a > very good way to use IMAP. I guess it's desirable

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Craig Dickson
Erik Steffl wrote: > mail retrieval is indeed separate issue (and it can be both job of > fetchamil (active retrieval) and MTA (accepting delivery)) > > then there's mail storage - IMO the task for IMAP server > > only then the MUA comes in - in between user and IMAP, the actual > email ma

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Lev Lvovsky
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Craig Dickson wrote: > Lev Lvovsky wrote: > > > why the insistence on fetchmail? > > Without fetchmail or something like it, if your network is down when you > decide to run your mail client, you can't check your mail server for new > messages. Even if the network is up, you h

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Erik Steffl
Craig Dickson wrote: > > Lev Lvovsky wrote: > > > why the insistence on fetchmail? ... > Also, with fetchmail, you don't have to bother telling your mail client > about your POP or IMAP server -- it's one less thing to configure if you provided that you want to download emails from IMAP which

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Lev Lvovsky
On Thu, 27 Dec 2001, martin f krafft wrote: > > why the insistence on fetchmail? > > it's the unix philosophy -- let one program do its job and do it well, > let other programs use that... hehe, really? I guess you can count mozilla out ;) while I like the concept of modularity, I can't imagine

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Erik Steffl
Craig Dickson wrote: > > Erik Steffl wrote: > > > IMO the MUA should not handle storage of email, so this is a non an > > issue:-) [the real causality goes in the other way] > > Well, the MUA should not have to worry about retrieval from POP servers. > That's fetchmail's job. But certainly the

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Craig Dickson
Lev Lvovsky wrote: > why the insistence on fetchmail? Without fetchmail or something like it, if your network is down when you decide to run your mail client, you can't check your mail server for new messages. Even if the network is up, you have to wait while the client connects to the server and

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Lev Lvovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.12.27.0144 +0100]: > > Well, the MUA should not have to worry about retrieval from POP servers. > > That's fetchmail's job. But certainly the MUA is the thing for > > interactively moving mails from one folder to another. > > why the insistence on

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Craig Dickson wrote: > > the problem with text based MUAs is that you cannot see > > folders/index/message at the same time... (AFAIK, haven't found it in > > mutt or pine) > > Right, AFAIK you can't do that in mutt. On the other hand, I don't find > that essential. GKrellM sh

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Lev Lvovsky
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Craig Dickson wrote: > Well, the MUA should not have to worry about retrieval from POP servers. > That's fetchmail's job. But certainly the MUA is the thing for > interactively moving mails from one folder to another. why the insistence on fetchmail? -lev

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Craig Dickson
Erik Steffl wrote: > IMO the MUA should not handle storage of email, so this is a non an > issue:-) [the real causality goes in the other way] Well, the MUA should not have to worry about retrieval from POP servers. That's fetchmail's job. But certainly the MUA is the thing for interactively mo

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Erik Steffl
David Z Maze wrote: > > Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ES> what's this netscpae 4.x bashing I see repeatedly? IMO it's a fairly > ES> good email client, stable (well, as stable as browser and it's really > ES> only stable when you disable java), has the main MUA features... > > Issues

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread David Z Maze
Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ES> what's this netscpae 4.x bashing I see repeatedly? IMO it's a fairly ES> good email client, stable (well, as stable as browser and it's really ES> only stable when you disable java), has the main MUA features... Issues with netscape mail at MIT: -- It h

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Lev Lvovsky
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Craig Dickson wrote: > Brian Nelson wrote: > > > > ... but I don't think I could get our users to go over to a non-GUI > > > program. > > > > Why is that? Because they've bought into the marketing pitch that > > pretty graphics == better software? That's bullshit. There's n

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Craig Dickson
Brian Nelson wrote: > > ... but I don't think I could get our users to go over to a non-GUI > > program. > > Why is that? Because they've bought into the marketing pitch that > pretty graphics == better software? That's bullshit. There's no good > reason any user couldn't become more proficien

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Craig Dickson
Vaughan, Curtis wrote: > I am wondering what other Debian Users recommend for an email client > program. > > First, let me state the needs of our company. We are currently very MS > based at present. The goal has been set to slowly move over to Linux. > Debian has been chosen, as it is the mos

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Erik Steffl
Lev Lvovsky wrote: > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Erik Steffl wrote: > > > imo it's very useful to have the eamil delivery&storage separate from > > email clients. > > > > from this point of view the ideal situation is to use IMAP, server > > side filtering (like sieve with cyrus) and let them use

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Erik Steffl
Brian Nelson wrote: ... Sylpheed is supposed to be a nice GUI mailer, though I haven't tried it. > Evolution is supposedly out of beta, though I wouldn't be surprised if > it crashed a lot, as you mentioned. KMail has weak IMAP support. > Mozilla Mail is still too buggy, as is Balsa. Netscape 4.

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Brian Nelson
Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > imo it's very useful to have the eamil delivery&storage separate from > email clients. > > from this point of view the ideal situation is to use IMAP, server > side filtering (like sieve with cyrus) and let them use any clients they > want... > > n

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Lev Lvovsky
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Erik Steffl wrote: > imo it's very useful to have the eamil delivery&storage separate from > email clients. > > from this point of view the ideal situation is to use IMAP, server > side filtering (like sieve with cyrus) and let them use any clients they > want... from a m

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Erik Steffl
imo it's very useful to have the eamil delivery&storage separate from email clients. from this point of view the ideal situation is to use IMAP, server side filtering (like sieve with cyrus) and let them use any clients they want... not sure how to get there from exchange, does exchange off

RE: Email client programs (w/o html formatting - sorry)

2001-12-26 Thread Lev Lvovsky
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Vaughan, Curtis wrote: > One of the reasons is monetary. Why pay MS for what is already out there, > and works just as well? > The other reason is example. We know of another company that is totally > Linux-based and has no problems. They can work not just at work, but als

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Brian Nelson
"Vaughan, Curtis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am wondering what other Debian Users recommend for an email client > program. Ooooh, I like a flamewar. > First, let me state the needs of our company. We are currently very MS > based at present. The goal has been set to slowly move over to Li

RE: Email client programs (w/o html formatting - sorry)

2001-12-26 Thread Vaughan, Curtis
One of the reasons is monetary. Why pay MS for what is already out there, and works just as well? The other reason is example. We know of another company that is totally Linux-based and has no problems. They can work not just at work, but also from home or from any computer anywhere through a

Re: Email client programs (w/o html formatting - sorry)

2001-12-26 Thread Lev Lvovsky
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Vaughan, Curtis wrote: > I am wondering what other Debian Users recommend for an email client > program. > > First, let me state the needs of our company. We are currently very MS > based at present. The goal has been set to slowly move over to Linux. > Debian has been chose

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-14 Thread Justin B Rye
Mike Fedyk wrote: [...] > I'm going to keep my search to a text based email client, because I > don't like to have to use vnc to view my email from home... Mutt is > great in an Xterm, and picture viewing is good too. I wonder if mutt > can use links or netscape for html viewing... Anyone know?

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-13 Thread Adam C Powell IV
Mike Fedyk wrote: > I'm going to keep my search to a text based email client, because I > don't like to have to use vnc to view my email from home... Mutt is > great in an Xterm, and picture viewing is good too. I wonder if mutt > can use links or netscape for html viewing... Anyone know? It's

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-10 Thread Andre Berger
* Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 20010311 02:25 +0100: > Andre Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > * Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 20010309 10:25 +0100: > > > Gnus 5.8 has the "nnmbox" backend, so which I assume reads and writes > > > mbox files. > > > > Theoretically yes. But it

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-10 Thread Colin Walters
Andre Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 20010309 10:25 +0100: > > Gnus 5.8 has the "nnmbox" backend, so which I assume reads and writes > > mbox files. > > Theoretically yes. But it doesn't work with anything else but ML (here), > and I can't find example

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-09 Thread kmself
on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 12:48:46PM -0800, MikeF ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 12:33:40PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > I'm switching to mutt right now. I've got to get off netscape, because > > it has crashed a couple times, and once just before I was going to reply > > to a

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-09 Thread brian moore
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 04:41:38PM -0800, Michael Epting wrote: > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 06:21:32PM -0500, MaD dUCK wrote: > > > > abook package where? > > In unstable, at least, it's in main/Mail. Just apt-get install abook. > > I took my Outlook Express (sorry!) address book and pulled it in

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-09 Thread Michael Epting
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 06:21:32PM -0500, MaD dUCK wrote: > > abook package where? In unstable, at least, it's in main/Mail. Just apt-get install abook. I took my Outlook Express (sorry!) address book and pulled it into (Windows) Netscape 4.76, then copied it over here to Debian. I think there

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-09 Thread MaD dUCK
> > Believing this to be true, I installed the abook package a while back. > > However, I have been unable to locate a shred of documentation on how > > mutt and abook work together. Any hints on where to look? abook package where? martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \_

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-09 Thread brian moore
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 02:48:04PM -0800, Michael Epting wrote: > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 02:22:37PM -0800, brian moore wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 02:17:06PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > > Does mutt have any address book support? Autocompletion would be really > > > > yes. either the int

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-09 Thread Michael Epting
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 02:22:37PM -0800, brian moore wrote: > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 02:17:06PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Does mutt have any address book support? Autocompletion would be really > > yes. either the internal one, or using an external database. Believing this to be true, I in

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-09 Thread brian moore
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 02:17:06PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Does mutt have any address book support? Autocompletion would be really yes. either the internal one, or using an external database. > nice too. Does mutt or gnus have that? depends on what you mean. auto address completion? sure

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-09 Thread Mike Fedyk
Does mutt have any address book support? Autocompletion would be really nice too. Does mutt or gnus have that? Mike NOTE: please remove "mikef-linux-x86" from the last couple email messages from me to reply.

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-09 Thread Peter Kovacs
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 04:42:28PM -0500, Peter Kovacs wrote: > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 12:48:46PM -0800, MikeF wrote: > > Back to mutt and friends: > > Are there any utilities that will scan a mbox and delete messages older than > > a relative date in the past? Say, 30, 14 or 7 days? Maybe it ca

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-09 Thread Peter Kovacs
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 12:48:46PM -0800, MikeF wrote: > Back to mutt and friends: > Are there any utilities that will scan a mbox and delete messages older than > a relative date in the past? Say, 30, 14 or 7 days? Maybe it can move them > over to another mbox hierarchy for archive... Any ideas

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-09 Thread MikeF
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 12:33:40PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > I'm switching to mutt right now. I've got to get off netscape, because > it has crashed a couple times, and once just before I was going to reply > to a long message. THAT scared me, that's for sure! Oh, BTW. I've already switched fr

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-09 Thread Mike Fedyk
Sven LUTHER wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 05:33:34PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > mutt: didn't look very much, so don't know. > > It is very nice, let's you do a lot of things, and is compatible with balsa > (which is just a frontend to libmutt anyway). > > That said, use procmail for mail

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-09 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 04:22:59PM -0500, Josh Huber wrote: > > "Mike" == Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > What format does netscape use to store mail? Is it mbox-like, or > something else? I think it is an mbox + some index file. You would have to check first, then just

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-09 Thread Andre Berger
* Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 20010309 10:25 +0100: > Andre Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Could you perhaps tell how to make Gnus use mbox format by default? > > (serious question of course) > > Gnus 5.8 has the "nnmbox" backend, so which I assume reads and writes > mbox files.

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-09 Thread Colin Walters
Andre Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Could you perhaps tell how to make Gnus use mbox format by default? > (serious question of course) Gnus 5.8 has the "nnmbox" backend, so which I assume reads and writes mbox files. Using nnml is a lot nicer though. I hear mutt even groks nnml folders n

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-08 Thread David J. Roundy
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 04:22:59PM -0500, Josh Huber wrote: > > What format does netscape use to store mail? Is it mbox-like, or > something else? Netscape uses the mbox format. I made the switch from netscape to mutt just last year, and it goes pretty smoothly. You can pretty easily just use

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-08 Thread Andre Berger
On 20010308 22:54 +0100, Josh Huber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Mike" == Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've recently switched from using Mutt to Gnus, mostly because I > started to get frustrated with the mutt config file format and the > lack of a programming language to customi

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-08 Thread Josh Huber
> "Mike" == Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] What format does netscape use to store mail? Is it mbox-like, or something else? What another person suggested about transferring your mail to an IMAP server might be a good idea if you can't just transfer the spool files. Mike> mutt

Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32

2001-03-08 Thread kmself
on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 05:33:34PM -0800, Mike Fedyk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, > > I am not on the debian-user list, so please cc me as well as the > list... > > I have been using netscape mail for several years on winblows, and > have over 50 folders and even more filters. I have been ge

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