Re: Zoom

2025-01-31 Thread D MacDougall
On 1/31/25 23:13, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: I just wanted to dispell the impression that "there's no choice". That's what a commercial entity's marketing department wants you to believe -- after all, they get paid for that. As another encouraging datapoint, there's Senfcall [0], a not for profit s

Re: Zoom

2025-01-31 Thread D MacDougall
On 1/31/25 01:50, Hans wrote: Hi folks, I am following this discussion here with great interest. We all know, that Zoom is not quite secure and we all know, that our data are transferred int the US (where they probably will be processed further on). Thus, many alternatives were mentioned li

Re: Zoom

2025-01-31 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 10:26:45PM -0800, D MacDougall wrote: > On 1/31/25 02:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Thing is -- you always have some. Use it. Sometimes it's direct, > > sometimes via advocacy groups, the best being to combine both. > ... > > Most of the time, the "normal" size is 30s to 4

Re: Zoom

2025-01-31 Thread D MacDougall
On 1/31/25 02:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Thing is -- you always have some. Use it. Sometimes it's direct, sometimes via advocacy groups, the best being to combine both. ... Most of the time, the "normal" size is 30s to 40s of users. And I have seen BBB perform surprisingly well there. Two exam

Re: Zoom

2025-01-31 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 01:10:39AM -0800, D MacDougall wrote: [...] > I wholeheatedly agree in principle and in circumstances where one has some > amount of influence. Thing is -- you always have some. Use it. Sometimes it's direct, sometimes via advocacy groups, the best being to combine both.

Re: Zoom

2025-01-31 Thread Hans
Hi folks, I am following this discussion here with great interest. We all know, that Zoom is not quite secure and we all know, that our data are transferred int the US (where they probably will be processed further on). Thus, many alternatives were mentioned like Jitsi, Jami and BBB. But I won

Re: Zoom

2025-01-31 Thread D MacDougall
On 1/30/25 23:33, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 11:02:25PM -0800, D MacDougall wrote: 4. If you want or need to join Zoom meetings that you do not control you [...] Or convince your partners to move to Jitsi. Or BBB. Sometimes that effort works out, and this is *definitel

Re: Zoom

2025-01-30 Thread George at Clug
On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 18:02 D MacDougall wrote: > On 1/29/25 05:39, Gregory Forster wrote: > > Hi, I've been using Debian for about 3 months, still a newbie. I'm > > trying to get totally off of Windows.One program I'm not sure about is > > Zoom.If you go to their web site, they detect you're

Re: Zoom

2025-01-30 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 11:02:25PM -0800, D MacDougall wrote: > On 1/29/25 05:39, Gregory Forster wrote: > > Hi, I've been using Debian for about 3 months, still a newbie. I'm > > trying to get totally off of Windows.One program I'm not sure about is > > Zoom.If you go to their web site, they detec

Re: Zoom

2025-01-30 Thread D MacDougall
On 1/29/25 05:39, Gregory Forster wrote: Hi, I've been using Debian for about 3 months, still a newbie. I'm trying to get totally off of Windows.One program I'm not sure about is Zoom.If you go to their web site, they detect you're using Linux and ask which distro you're using.  I'm a little appr

Re: Zoom

2025-01-30 Thread Bret Busby
On 31/1/25 05:16, George at Clug wrote: Bret, Thanks for replying. On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 07:31 Bret Busby wrote: On 31/1/25 04:05, George at Clug wrote: On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 01:11 Bret Busby wrote: On 30/1/25 17:44, D MacDougall wrote: On 1/29/25 21:20, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On

Re: Zoom

2025-01-30 Thread George at Clug
On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 09:07 Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > On Thursday 30 January 2025 09:11:16 am Bret Busby wrote: > > One report that was previously cited in previous discussions of zoom on > > this list, that should have been read by people recommending zoom, is > > the report at > > htt

Re: Zoom

2025-01-30 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Thursday 30 January 2025 09:11:16 am Bret Busby wrote: > One report that was previously cited in previous discussions of zoom on > this list, that should have been read by people recommending zoom, is > the report at > https://www.theregister.com/2023/0/15/software_freedom_conservancy_zoom/ >

Re: Zoom

2025-01-30 Thread David Wright
On Thu 30 Jan 2025 at 22:11:16 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: > As I have previously said, the issue of zoom was previously discussed > on this list, and, people interested in considering zoom, should have > searched the list archive, and, found previous discussions relating to > zoom. > > One report

Re: Zoom

2025-01-30 Thread George at Clug
On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 07:38 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 07:05:32 +1100, George at Clug wrote: > > Is there a way to search for "zoom" in some debian-user archive? > > Google accepts "site:lists.debian.org" in its search box. > > Using this gives you a URL like >

Re: Zoom

2025-01-30 Thread David Wright
On Fri 31 Jan 2025 at 07:05:32 (+1100), George at Clug wrote: > Is there a way to search for "zoom" in some debian-user archive? > > I found https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ ? But I am way to lazy to > search through all those pages looking to see if at any time some had made a > comment

Re: Zoom

2025-01-30 Thread George at Clug
Bret, Thanks for replying. On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 07:31 Bret Busby wrote: > On 31/1/25 04:05, George at Clug wrote: > > > > > > On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 01:11 Bret Busby wrote: > >> On 30/1/25 17:44, D MacDougall wrote: > >>> On 1/29/25 21:20, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Jan 29, 2

Re: Zoom

2025-01-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 07:05:32 +1100, George at Clug wrote: > Is there a way to search for "zoom" in some debian-user archive? Google accepts "site:lists.debian.org" in its search box. Using this gives you a URL like which is pretty

Re: Zoom

2025-01-30 Thread George at Clug
Jami looks very useful. Thanks for mentioning this program. On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 02:52 Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 01:44:28 -0800 > D MacDougall wrote: > > > The Wikipedia article on Jitsi > > says that due to it's hosting on AWS Jitsi is not GDPR compliant.  Do > > you or

Re: Zoom

2025-01-30 Thread Bret Busby
On 31/1/25 04:05, George at Clug wrote: On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 01:11 Bret Busby wrote: On 30/1/25 17:44, D MacDougall wrote: On 1/29/25 21:20, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 12:28:55PM -0800, Donald MacDougall wrote: I've been using Zoom from the beginning of the Corona v

Re: Zoom

2025-01-30 Thread George at Clug
On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 01:11 Bret Busby wrote: > On 30/1/25 17:44, D MacDougall wrote: > > On 1/29/25 21:20, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 12:28:55PM -0800, Donald MacDougall wrote: > >>> I've been using Zoom from the beginning of the Corona virus epidemic > >>> [...] >

Re: Zoom

2025-01-30 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 01:44:28 -0800 D MacDougall wrote: > The Wikipedia article on Jitsi > says that due to it's hosting on AWS Jitsi is not GDPR compliant.  Do > you or anyone have alternative that can be said with confidence to be > better? Jami is package in Debian and does not use a centra

Re: Zoom

2025-01-30 Thread Dan Ritter
D MacDougall wrote: > From only the Wikipedia report and no further reading it's not clear to me > whether using a web browser to attend a zoom meeting would be any safer than > using the native application and I'm not doing international diplomatic > negotiations anyway.  All I can say is that it

Re: Zoom

2025-01-30 Thread Bret Busby
On 30/1/25 17:44, D MacDougall wrote: On 1/29/25 21:20, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 12:28:55PM -0800, Donald MacDougall wrote: I've been using Zoom from the beginning of the Corona virus epidemic [...] and haven't had any trouble that I think could be related to Zoom [...]

Re: Zoom

2025-01-30 Thread D MacDougall
On 1/29/25 21:20, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 12:28:55PM -0800, Donald MacDougall wrote: I've been using Zoom from the beginning of the Corona virus epidemic [...] and haven't had any trouble that I think could be related to Zoom [...] Thanks for your report. Prompted by thi

Re: Zoom

2025-01-29 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 12:28:55PM -0800, Donald MacDougall wrote: > I've been using Zoom from the beginning of the Corona virus epidemic [...] > and haven't had any trouble that I think could be related to Zoom [...] Thanks for your report. Prompted by this thread I went to the Wikipedia. After

Re: Zoom

2025-01-29 Thread Donald MacDougall
I've been using Zoom from the beginning of the Corona virus epidemic on a couple of Debian computers as well as a couple of Android phones and have found them to work very well and haven't had any trouble that I think could be related to Zoom. I know there have been an incident or two that were

Re: Zoom

2025-01-29 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 11:07 AM Gregory Forster wrote: > > Hi, I've been using Debian for about 3 months, still a newbie. I'm > trying to get totally off of Windows.One program I'm not sure about is > Zoom.If you go to their web site, they detect you're using Linux and ask > which distro you're u

Re: Zoom

2025-01-29 Thread Klaus Singvogel
Steve Witt wrote: [...] > I have had no problems with it and it did not > affect those computers in any way so I believe that it is totally safe > to install it and use it. [...] No, isn't totally safe on Linux, for instance see: https://cybersecuritynews.com/zoom-app-vulnerability/ Note

Re: Zoom

2025-01-29 Thread Bret Busby
On 29/1/25 21:39, Gregory Forster wrote: Hi, I've been using Debian for about 3 months, still a newbie. I'm trying to get totally off of Windows.One program I'm not sure about is Zoom.If you go to their web site, they detect you're using Linux and ask which distro you're using.  I'm a little ap

Re: Zoom

2025-01-29 Thread Jerome BENOIT
On 29/01/2025 16:33, Steve Witt wrote: On 01/29, Gregory Forster wrote: Hi, I've been using Debian for about 3 months, still a newbie. I'm trying to get totally off of Windows.One program I'm not sure about is Zoom.If you go to their web site, they detect you're using Linux and ask which dist

Re: Zoom

2025-01-29 Thread Steve Witt
On 01/29, Gregory Forster wrote: > Hi, I've been using Debian for about 3 months, still a newbie. I'm trying to > get totally off of Windows.One program I'm not sure about is Zoom.If you go > to their web site, they detect you're using Linux and ask which distro > you're using.  I'm a little appreh

Re: Zoom

2025-01-29 Thread Dan Ritter
Gregory Forster wrote: > Hi, I've been using Debian for about 3 months, still a newbie. I'm trying to > get totally off of Windows.One program I'm not sure about is Zoom.If you go > to their web site, they detect you're using Linux and ask which distro > you're using.  I'm a little apprehensive ab

Re: Zoom

2025-01-29 Thread Eric S Fraga
I've had to use Zoom (and others) since the pandemic, on Debian based systems. For zoom, I usually connect through the browser (there's usually a not emphasised link somewhere on the zoom web page) and it works quite well typically. I have used the application but found it worked less well. --

Re: Zoom in the official repo is outdated

2024-04-24 Thread Stefan Monnier
Jeffrey Walton [2024-04-24 20:13:57] wrote: > On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 7:13 PM Van Snyder wrote: > >> On Wed, 2024-04-24 at 16:42 -0300, Luiz Romário Santana Rios wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> >> (Please cc me when replying as I'm not subscribed to the list) >> >> >> Earlier this month, I noticed I wa

Re: Zoom in the official repo is outdated

2024-04-24 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/4/24 08:13, Jeffrey Walton wrote: Related, if you control the venue, then you might consider using Jitsi. Jitsi is open source, and it does not have the obscene terms of service that companies like Google, Microsoft and Zoom push onto people using their service. With Jitsi, your mee

Note this thread Re: Zoom in the official repo is outdated

2024-04-24 Thread Peter Ehlert
On April 24, 2024 1:00:29 PM Luiz Romário Santana Rios wrote: Hello, (Please cc me when replying as I'm not subscribed to the list) Earlier this month, I noticed I was no longer able to login to Zoom meetings using the client installed from the Debian repos. In order to join meetings, I h

Re: Zoom in the official repo is outdated

2024-04-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 7:13 PM Van Snyder wrote: > On Wed, 2024-04-24 at 16:42 -0300, Luiz Romário Santana Rios wrote: > > Hello, > > > (Please cc me when replying as I'm not subscribed to the list) > > > Earlier this month, I noticed I was no longer able to login to Zoom > > meetings using the

Re: Zoom in the official repo is outdated

2024-04-24 Thread Bob McGowan
On 4/24/24 01:28 PM, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 24 Apr 2024 16:42 -0300, from luizroma...@tecgraf.puc-rio.br (Luiz Romário Santana Rios): Earlier this month, I noticed I was no longer able to login to Zoom meetings using the client installed from the Debian repos. In order to join meetings, I h

Re: Zoom in the official repo is outdated

2024-04-24 Thread Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ
On Mittwoch, 24. April 2024 15:42:39 -04 Luiz Romário Santana Rios wrote: > Hello, > > (Please cc me when replying as I'm not subscribed to the list) > > Earlier this month, I noticed I was no longer able to login to Zoom > meetings using the client installed from the Debian repos. In order to >

Re: Zoom in the official repo is outdated

2024-04-24 Thread Luiz Romário Santana Rios
I forgot I had installed zoom from the official zoom deb package, not from the Debian repo. And, as it turns out, they provide just the deb package[1], not a repo where the push updates, so I'd have to manually download the new deb package in order to update Zoom. Whoops... Sorry for the nois

Re: Zoom in the official repo is outdated

2024-04-24 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 24 Apr 2024 16:42 -0300, from luizroma...@tecgraf.puc-rio.br (Luiz Romário Santana Rios): > Earlier this month, I noticed I was no longer able to login to Zoom meetings > using the client installed from the Debian repos. In order to join meetings, > I had to uninstall it then install the flatpa

Re: Zoom in the official repo is outdated

2024-04-24 Thread Dan Ritter
Luiz Romário Santana Rios wrote: > Hello, > > (Please cc me when replying as I'm not subscribed to the list) > > Earlier this month, I noticed I was no longer able to login to Zoom meetings > using the client installed from the Debian repos. In order to join meetings, > I had to uninstall it the

Re: Zoom in the official repo is outdated

2024-04-24 Thread Van Snyder
On Wed, 2024-04-24 at 16:42 -0300, Luiz Romário Santana Rios wrote: > Hello, > > (Please cc me when replying as I'm not subscribed to the list) > > Earlier this month, I noticed I was no longer able to login to Zoom > meetings using the client installed from the Debian repos. In order to > join

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

2023-12-19 Thread David
On Tue, 2023-12-19 at 20:57 -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 18:30:55 -0500 > Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > Use Jitsi, if possible. You can even run your own Jitsi server, if > > desired. And it is open source. . > > You might also look at Jami, which has the

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

2023-12-19 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 18:30:55 -0500 Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Use Jitsi, if possible. You can even run your own Jitsi server, if > desired. And it is open source. . You might also look at Jami, which has the virtue of being in the Debian repos. apt show jami-daemon -- Does an

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

2023-12-19 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 5:29 AM Bret Busby wrote: > > On 19/12/23 17:53, John Conover wrote: > > Does the Zoom client work on Bookworm with pipewire? > > > Are you aware of Zoom using video calls for spying on, and, collecting > personal information from, users, causing > > "The Software Freedom C

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

2023-12-19 Thread Tom Dial
On 12/19/23 02:53, John Conover wrote: Does the Zoom client work on Bookworm with pipewire? Zoom works fine on Bookworm using mainstream Logitech camera/microphone. It coexists with pipewire on the system where I use it, but does not show that as a dependency. Installing it will drag in it

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

2023-12-19 Thread Kent West
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 3:30 PM Kent West wrote: > > > On 12/19/23 10:53, John Conover wrote: >> > Does the Zoom client work on Bookworm with pipewire? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > John >> > > Yes. > > I have version 5.17.0 of the desktop client running on my sid/trixie box > at this ver

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

2023-12-19 Thread Kent West
On 12/19/23 10:53, John Conover wrote: > > Does the Zoom client work on Bookworm with pipewire? > > > > Thanks, > > > > John > Yes. I have version 5.17.0 of the desktop client running on my sid/trixie box at this very moment. -- Kent West<")))>< IT Support / Clien

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

2023-12-19 Thread err404
On 12/19/23 10:53, John Conover wrote: Does the Zoom client work on Bookworm with pipewire? Thanks, John you can use zoom.us in your web browser there is less options, but it work well.

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

2023-12-19 Thread David
On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 at 11:04, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > can we efficiently jail zoom ? Hi, my approach is to do that on my laptop by using grub to boot into various different Debian installations. Multiboot is un-fashionable, but I find it useful and versatile. Hard drives are plenty big enough to

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

2023-12-19 Thread Dan Ritter
Jerome BENOIT wrote: > can we efficiently jail zoom ? It needs access to a microphone, camera, and the network. I suppose you could call that a jail, but for programs, that's pretty much everything except filesystems and root privileges. -dsr-

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

2023-12-19 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hi, can we efficiently jail zoom ? Jerome On 19/12/2023 11:28, Bret Busby wrote: On 19/12/23 17:53, John Conover wrote: Does the Zoom client work on Bookworm with pipewire? Thanks, John Are you aware of Zoom using video calls for spying on, and, collecting personal information

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

2023-12-19 Thread tomas
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 06:28:48PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: [...] > Are you aware of Zoom using video calls for spying on, and, collecting > personal information from, users, causing Thanks for pointing that out. It can't be overstated. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

2023-12-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/12/23 18:28, Bret Busby wrote: On 19/12/23 17:53, John Conover wrote: Does the Zoom client work on Bookworm with pipewire? Thanks, John Are you aware of Zoom using video calls for spying on, and, collecting personal information from, users, causing "The Software Freedom Co

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

2023-12-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/12/23 17:53, John Conover wrote: Does the Zoom client work on Bookworm with pipewire? Thanks, John Are you aware of Zoom using video calls for spying on, and, collecting personal information from, users, causing "The Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC) is calling on fr

Re: zoom client for bullseye

2021-08-30 Thread Steven Rosenberg
On Mon, 2021-08-30 at 08:15 +0800, Robbi Nespu wrote: > Last time (that time bullseye still on testing release) I tried with > they official deb, I getting dependencies issues too.. trying with > "apt-get -f install" solve the installation but somehow when I using > it, > it hang...and sometimes

Re: zoom client for bullseye

2021-08-30 Thread albcares
I would suggest trying a different browser: Vivaldi. It's a "fork" of chromium, with some interesting features. I.e. it solved my troubles with teams in mint 17.3; maybe not a solution, just a practical patch... Il lun 30 ago 2021 02:33 Robbi Nespu ha scritto: > Last time (that time bullseye sti

Re: zoom client for bullseye

2021-08-29 Thread Robbi Nespu
Last time (that time bullseye still on testing release) I tried with they official deb, I getting dependencies issues too.. trying with "apt-get -f install" solve the installation but somehow when I using it, it hang...and sometimes I can't close my camera properly. Then I switched to snap ver

Re: zoom client for bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Brian
On Sun 22 Aug 2021 at 14:51:17 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Sun, 2021-08-22 at 14:47 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 02:37:30PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > On Sun, 2021-08-22 at 14:17 -0400, Thomas George wrote: > > > > The zoom client downloaded from the zoom web

Re: zoom client for bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Brian
On Sun 22 Aug 2021 at 14:27:12 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 02:17:15PM -0400, Thomas George wrote: > > The zoom client downloaded from the zoom web page seems to have been written > > for Debian 8 > > > > Installing it in bullseye fails, dependency problems > > There's n

Re: zoom client for bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, 2021-08-22 at 14:47 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 02:37:30PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > On Sun, 2021-08-22 at 14:17 -0400, Thomas George wrote: > > > The zoom client downloaded from the zoom web page seems to have been > > > written for Debian 8 > > > > > > In

Re: zoom client for bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 02:37:30PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Sun, 2021-08-22 at 14:17 -0400, Thomas George wrote: > > The zoom client downloaded from the zoom web page seems to have been > > written for Debian 8 > > > > Installing it in bullseye fails, dependency problems > > > > Works f

Re: zoom client for bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, 2021-08-22 at 14:17 -0400, Thomas George wrote: > The zoom client downloaded from the zoom web page seems to have been > written for Debian 8 > > Installing it in bullseye fails, dependency problems > Works for me (Deb11 + Cinnamon). IIRC, after running dpkg -i zoom.deb you need to run

Re: zoom client for bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-22 2:17 p.m., Thomas George wrote: > The zoom client downloaded from the zoom web page seems to have been > written for Debian 8 > > Installing it in bullseye fails, dependency problems > What is the dependencies that fail ? It does run on Debian Buster. -- Polyna-Maude R.-Summersid

Re: zoom client for bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Gokan Atmaca
> Installing it in bullseye fails, dependency problems Can you share the log? Or run apt -f install? On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 9:25 PM Thomas George wrote: > > The zoom client downloaded from the zoom web page seems to have been > written for Debian 8 > > Installing it in bullseye fails, dependen

Re: zoom client for bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 02:17:15PM -0400, Thomas George wrote: > The zoom client downloaded from the zoom web page seems to have been written > for Debian 8 > > Installing it in bullseye fails, dependency problems There's not much we can do about that. If you really want the standalone applicati

Re: Zoom.

2021-05-03 Thread peter
From: Tom Dial Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 15:04:45 -0600 > The link above hints that you may have a broken install. You might want > to remove (most of) it by deleting the /opt/zoom directory. Removing Zoom with aptitude also "disappeared" linphone. After removing Zoom, aptitude showed lin

Re: Zoom.

2021-04-25 Thread Gary L. Roach
Hi all, OS debian10 amd -64 system I've been using zoom for some time and have had to reinstall twice due to system problems. I have used the "dpkg -i  install" method followed by --fix-missing clean up. Everything has worked fine both times. My only problem is with the sound. I use bluetooth

Re: Zoom.

2021-04-25 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Wednesday, 21 April 2021 20:21:56 CEST Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > I just had to do this AGAIN yesterday. I download the dotDEB file then > "dpkg -i" it. It always fails due to missing dependencies. You should use gdebi. This tool checks and installs required dependencies. HTH

Re: Zoom.

2021-04-25 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 10:08:19AM +0200, deloptes wrote: [...] > from time to time we share same POV :) ...we humans are like that >;-) Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Zoom.

2021-04-25 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Can confirm: it's juts the other way around -- the native app has > trouble with me. I don't trust it. So I never installed it, leading > to... not having had trouble with it ;-P +1 from time to time we share same POV :)

Re: Zoom.

2021-04-25 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 02:53:05AM +, Russell wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 08:01:02AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > >> Installed Zoom in Debian 10. > >> [...] > >> Ideas welcome. > > > > Instead of installing the Zoom package, try just using Zoom inside > > a

Re: Zoom.

2021-04-25 Thread Russell
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 08:01:02AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: >> Installed Zoom in Debian 10. >> [...] >> Ideas welcome. > > Instead of installing the Zoom package, try just using Zoom inside > a web browser. I've used it inside Google Chrome without any problems. > I

Re: Zoom.

2021-04-22 Thread peter
From: Tom Dial Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 15:04:45 -0600 > First, as Greg Wooledge and tomas noted, You can run it using a browser, > with some possible functional limitations. Scheduled to give it a try April 30. > recommend 4GB memory and an i3/i5/i7 or equivalent AMD CPU. These are 64 > b

Re: Zoom.

2021-04-21 Thread Tom Dial
On 4/21/21 09:01, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Hi, > > Installed Zoom in Debian 10. > > Checked dependancies listed here. > https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204206269-Installing-or-updating-Zoom-on-Linux > > A right click on the video camera icon and release on "Join Meeting..." gives

Re: Zoom.

2021-04-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 02:21:56PM -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > On 4/21/21, Richmond wrote: > > sudo apt install ~/Downloads/zoom_amd64.deb > > I just had to do this AGAIN yesterday. I download the dotDEB file then > "dpkg -i" it. It always fails due to missing dependencies. Somewhere > in th

Re: Zoom.

2021-04-21 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 4/21/21, Richmond wrote: > pe...@easthope.ca writes: > >> Installed Zoom in Debian 10. >> >> Checked dependancies listed here. >> https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204206269-Installing-or-updating-Zoom-on-Linux >> >> A right click on the video camera icon and release on "Join Meeting...

Re: Zoom.

2021-04-21 Thread Curt
On 2021-04-21, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Hi, > > Installed Zoom in Debian 10. > > Checked dependancies listed here. > https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204206269-Installing-or-updating-Zoom-on-Linux > > A right click on the video camera icon and release on "Join Meeting..." gives > the wi

Re: Zoom.

2021-04-21 Thread Richmond
pe...@easthope.ca writes: > Hi, > > Installed Zoom in Debian 10. > > Checked dependancies listed here. > https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204206269-Installing-or-updating-Zoom-on-Linux > > A right click on the video camera icon and release on "Join Meeting..." gives > the window in this s

Re: Zoom.

2021-04-21 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 11:22:46AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 08:01:02AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > Installed Zoom in Debian 10. > > [...] > > Ideas welcome. > > Instead of installing the Zoom package, try just using Zoom inside > a web browser. I've used it in

Re: Zoom.

2021-04-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 08:01:02AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Installed Zoom in Debian 10. > [...] > Ideas welcome. Instead of installing the Zoom package, try just using Zoom inside a web browser. I've used it inside Google Chrome without any problems. I can't vouch for how it will behave

Re: Zoom.

2020-10-22 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 06:08:23AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: From: Michael Stone Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 17:08:10 -0400 I'd strongly recommend switching to the amd64 distribution for a variety of reasons. Reasonable advice but for all other needs, the old machine serves well. I'd assu

Re: Zoom.

2020-10-22 Thread peter
From: Michael Stone Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 17:08:10 -0400 > I'd strongly recommend switching to the amd64 distribution for a variety of > reasons. Reasonable advice but for all other needs, the old machine serves well. A mobile data account includes an Android-Alcatel tablet. Zoom can be

Re: shells (was Re: Zoom.)

2020-10-20 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 20/10/2020 15:51, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Top posting intentionally as I don't think any (or much) context is required. so, hijacking a thread instead? :-) -- Tony van der Hoff| mailto:t...@vanderhoff.org Buckinghamshire, England |

Re: shells (was Re: Zoom.)

2020-10-20 Thread Nicolas George
rhkra...@gmail.com (12020-10-20): > Top posting intentionally as I don't think any (or much) context is required. Then you could just omit it. > I am always impressed with Greg's knowledge of the Bash shell (maybe all > shells), but, wow, Bash seems like a convoluted mess to keep track of all th

Re: shells (was Re: Zoom.)

2020-10-20 Thread rhkramer
Top posting intentionally as I don't think any (or much) context is required. I am always impressed with Greg's knowledge of the Bash shell (maybe all shells), but, wow, Bash seems like a convoluted mess to keep track of all the little details / gotchas. Is there a shell that is better in that

Re: Zoom.

2020-10-20 Thread Dan Ritter
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 06:36:15AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > I have this in my PS1 definition: > > > > \$(if [[ \$? == 0 ]]; then echo \"+\"; else echo \"-\"; fi)\ > > > > Which has the effect of telling me the rough exit status of the > > last command in my prompt. >

Re: Zoom.

2020-10-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 06:36:15AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > I have this in my PS1 definition: > > \$(if [[ \$? == 0 ]]; then echo \"+\"; else echo \"-\"; fi)\ > > Which has the effect of telling me the rough exit status of the > last command in my prompt. The weird backslashing tells me you'r

Re: Zoom.

2020-10-20 Thread Nicolas George
Dan Ritter (12020-10-20): > I have this in my PS1 definition: > > \$(if [[ \$? == 0 ]]; then echo \"+\"; else echo \"-\"; fi)\ > > Which has the effect of telling me the rough exit status of the > last command in my prompt. With zsh, I suggest "setopt pritexitvalue". Regards, -- Nicoals Ge

Re: Zoom.

2020-10-20 Thread Dan Ritter
John Crawley wrote: > On 20/10/2020 04:57, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > From: Bob McGowan > > Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 18:18:18 -0700 > > > As for exiting, so long as Zoom considers it a normal exit, it will > > > give an exit status of zero and you will simply see the next prompt. > > > That is as

Re: Zoom.

2020-10-20 Thread tomas
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 06:02:38PM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 11:16:01 -0400 > > I use and recommend Jitsi as a Free Software alternative. > > 1-1 connection or multi-party conference? Jitsi and BBB both support multi-party. You either set up

Re: Zoom.

2020-10-19 Thread John Crawley
On 20/10/2020 04:57, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: From: Bob McGowan Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 18:18:18 -0700 As for exiting, so long as Zoom considers it a normal exit, it will give an exit status of zero and you will simply see the next prompt. That is as expected. At least one earlier reply had ou

Re: Zoom.

2020-10-19 Thread peter
From: Stefan Monnier Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 11:16:01 -0400 > I use and recommend Jitsi as a Free Software alternative. 1-1 connection or multi-party conference? Thanks, ... P. -- Tel: +1 604 670 0140Bcc: peter at easthope. ca

Re: Zoom.

2020-10-19 Thread peter
From: Stefan Monnier Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 11:16:01 -0400 > I use and recommend Jitsi as a Free Software alternative. 1-1 connection or multi-party conference? Thanks, ... P. -- Tel: +1 604 670 0140Bcc: peter at easthope. ca

Re: Zoom.

2020-10-19 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 12:57:52PM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: Obvious factor: replies mention 64 bit machines. 32 b here. Anyone have Zoom running on a 32 b machine with Debian 10? Probably not many, if any. I'd strongly recommend switching to the amd64 distribution for a variety of rea

Re: Zoom.

2020-10-19 Thread peter
From: Bob McGowan Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 18:18:18 -0700 > I've seen the browser part only when I click on a link in an email > invite. I shouldn't have included the browser window. Not really pertinent. > As for exiting, so long as Zoom considers it a normal exit, it will > give an exit statu

Re: Zoom.

2020-10-19 Thread Stefan Monnier
>>> Isn't it funny that we consider ourselves "liberal democracies", but >>> when crossing our $COMPANY's doorstep, we leave our convictions at the >>> wardrobe? >> In an ideal world one could just refuse to do so and quit the job. > There are many other things one can do, Among them I forgot to m

Re: Zoom.

2020-10-19 Thread tomas
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 11:21:21AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> Isn't it funny that we consider ourselves "liberal democracies", but > >> when crossing our $COMPANY's doorstep, we leave our convictions at the > >> wardrobe? > > In an ideal world one could just refuse to do so and quit the job.

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