Hello Robert Schaitberger,
Also auf meinen CDs/DVDs sind keine setup.exe Dateien vorhanden
Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:03:28 +0100, Robert Schaitberger wrote:
(please, avoid using html)
> i want to install Debian testing
>
> Load down the iso Image (testing and live CD)
>From what source?
> and burn a CD,
Did you check the md5 hash before and after burning?
> put it in my Windows PC.
On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 23:19:57 +
lejkt lejkt wrote:
>
> now with more than 20 GB on the partition mounted on /
>
> I made the same installation, but after 2 days of use, i expected the same
> problem, partition mounted on / become full and /etc/init.d/mysql: ERROR: The
> partition with /va
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 01:33, Rob Owens wrote:
> Don't forget about the *.desktop files that several desktop environments
> use to launch programs from their deskop. They can execute files
> without the "x" permission set. Although I think one of the major DE's
> fixed that security hole (but I
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 08:12:22AM +, Avi Greenbury wrote:
> abdelkader belahcene wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I am asking if there is a virus on my machine how to detect it.
>
> ClamAV[0] is the standard linux anti-virus scanner. For rootkit [1]
> detection/fixing, look at chkrootkit[2] and rkhunter[3]
On Tuesday 01 December 2009 03:37:23 pm Alex Samad wrote:
> Interestingly no one has mentioned selinux (or the suse equiv).
You mean harden_suse ? It works great, and is probably one of the easier to
use ones. And not only that, you can easily reverse it if something breaks
after you've done it
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 06:45:18AM -0500, Allen wrote:
> After all the help I've received on here I finally get to give some heh:
>
> On Tuesday 01 December 2009 02:54:47 am Juha Tuuna wrote:
> > abdelkader belahcene wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I am asking if there is a virus on my machine how to detec
After all the help I've received on here I finally get to give some heh:
On Tuesday 01 December 2009 02:54:47 am Juha Tuuna wrote:
> abdelkader belahcene wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I am asking if there is a virus on my machine how to detect it.
>
> Try scanning with Clamav
This is a good idea if you're w
abdelkader belahcene wrote:
> Hi,
> I am asking if there is a virus on my machine how to detect it.
ClamAV[0] is the standard linux anti-virus scanner. For rootkit [1]
detection/fixing, look at chkrootkit[2] and rkhunter[3].
> the command ps aux gives all running processes, all really all? or
>
abdelkader belahcene wrote:
> Hi,
> I am asking if there is a virus on my machine how to detect it.
Try scanning with Clamav
> the command ps aux gives all running processes, all really all? or it
> may be a hidden process running on background.
There might be a hidden process using rootkit te
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On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 12:46:11PM +0100, Mark M wrote:
| s. keeling schreef:
| >Incoming from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
| >
| >> e-mail Manager Notification **
| >>
| >>As a security precaution this mail was blocked and discarded since it
| >
| >Grrr. Can we pass
s. keeling schreef:
Incoming from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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As a security precaution this mail was blocked and discarded since it
Grrr. Can we pass a law that says all these virus checker programs
have to insert an X-Virus-Bot:
Hallo Joachim,
> when installing a Debian today from CDs all seemed well until we
> installed two additional packages using a mirror (zlib-dev and
> jpeg-something).
> We also updated the system using apt-get upgrade. Shortly after that
> the system started to have problems. We identified the s
email the debian ftpmaster. Find his email address on debian.org
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 12:28, Joachim Baumann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> when installing a Debian today from CDs all seemed well until we
> installed two additional packages using a mirror (zlib-dev and
> jpeg-something).
> We also updated t
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On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 11:27:52AM -0600, Jacob Anawalt wrote:
> So you're just keeping a list of problem IP's and accepting additional
> traffic from them, or do they have to use another IP address to mail the
> "Disinfected, thanks" email to?
I fo
Paul Johnson wrote:
[snip]
Tommorrow someone else will be assigned those same IPs and you'll be
blocking them even if they were never vulnerable to begin with.
If it's a problem, they email me, and I pull the IP.
So you're just keeping a list of problem IP's and accepting additional
traf
In linux.debian.user,
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 05:43:42AM -0400, Michael C. wrote:
> > You realize of course that probably 60-70% are dynamic IPs. For example:
> >
> > 212.216.176.206 212.216.176.221
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On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 11:19:56AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > You realize of course that probably 60-70% are dynamic IPs.
>
> And why exactly are people sending mail from dynamic IPs rather than
> using their ISP's smarthost or similar?
I only se
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On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 05:43:42AM -0400, Michael C. wrote:
> You realize of course that probably 60-70% are dynamic IPs. For example:
>
> 212.216.176.206 212.216.176.221 212.216.176.222 212.216.176.223
> 212.216.176.224 212.227.126.251
>
> Are probab
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 05:43:42AM -0400, Michael C. wrote:
> In linux.debian.user,
> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've started a virus infected hosts list that is net-lsearchable.
> > It's available at http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ and is updated when I get
> > more virus infected ema
In linux.debian.user,
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've started a virus infected hosts list that is net-lsearchable.
> It's available at http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ and is updated when I get
> more virus infected email or requests for removal. If I get a lot of
> interest, I might ma
please resend email not recd
>= Original Message From <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>Warning: This message has had one or more attachments removed
>Warning: (document_all.pif).
>Warning: Please read the "VirusWarning.txt" attachment(s) for more
information.
>
>See the attached file for details
S
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 09:02:21AM +0200, BUIRA Etienne wrote:
> >
> > As we use Debian, I don't think there is the need for any company to
> > protect us. As far as I know, linux is immune to any virus, and that's
> > the main reason why I don't want to install windows on my machine.
>
> WRONG
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:31:39 +0900,
Nick Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> * amg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030827 13:23]:
>
>
> > While browsing my inbox, which I only do every several days, I
> > notice messages from places such as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (this was
>
> Welcome ;-)
Thank you.
> We do not have a security company protecting us. As a few people have
> pointed out already, this is probably a case of a virus being sent
> with a faked From header, and over-zealous anti-virus software.
The question about the security company was a "what-if", I did
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:39:33PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(snip quote)
>
> As we use Debian, I don't think there is the need for any company to
> protect us. As far as I know, linux is immune to any virus, and that's
> the main reason why I don't want to install windows on my machine.
> ..something on the matter: ;-)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ jwhois winram.com
> [Querying whois.internic.net]
> [Redirected to whois.dotster.com]
> [Querying whois.dotster.com]
> [whois.dotster.com]
>
> The data contained in the WHOIS database, while
> believed by the company to be reliable, is pro
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:20:55AM -0400, amg wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Being relatively new to the whole mailing-list scene I have a question
> about the linux mailing-list scene actually (actually part of a mailing
> list in my windows days).
Welcome ;-)
> While browsing my inbox, which I only
> As we use Debian, I don't think there is the need for any
> company to protect us. As far as I know, linux is immune to
> any virus, and that's
> the main reason why I don't want to install windows on my machine.
> --
> Zeng Nan
>
If this is your main reason, why not use windows with antivi
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 00:20:55 -0400,
amg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello all,
>
> Being relatively new to the whole mailing-list scene I have a question
> about the linux mailing-list scene actually (actually part of a
> mailing list in my windows days).
>
> W
* amg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030827 13:23]:
> While browsing my inbox, which I only do every several days, I notice
> messages from places such as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (this was recently, I
> received (or it was sent?) it: 03.08.28).
>
> I am wondering what this is. Did someone send a virus/worm/wh
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:20:55AM -0400, amg wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Being relatively new to the whole mailing-list scene I have a question
> about the linux mailing-list scene actually (actually part of a mailing
> list in my windows days).
>
> While browsing my inbox, which I only do every se
this is my take:
joe user has a windows computer
he reads our list
he has the lists email address in his address book
he get the virus
it reads his address book
it sends the virus to everyone in his address book which includes email
that fakes the 'from' address (from the list)
the recipent of th
>From OED online.
[a. L. vrus slimy liquid, poison, offensive odour or taste. Hence also F.,
Sp., Pg. virus.
In Lanfranc's Cirurgie (c 1400) 77 the word, explained as 'a thin venomy
quitter', is merely taken over from the Latin text.]
1. Venom, such as is emitted by a poisonous animal. Als
On Thursday 21 August 2003 06:31, Pigeon wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 06:57:22PM +1200, cr wrote:
> > Is there a rash of viruses with spoofed origin lines all of a sudden?
> > I had *120* emails in my other email account today (not the one I use on
> > Debian), many of them were Re: Wicked Scre
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 06:57:22PM +1200, cr wrote:
> Is there a rash of viruses with spoofed origin lines all of a sudden?
> I had *120* emails in my other email account today (not the one I use on
> Debian), many of them were Re: Wicked Screensaver. I thought they were all
> spam but I gue
* Richard Kimber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030820 15:26]:
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 10:08:01 -0700
> Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Is there a rash of viruses with spoofed origin lines all of a sudden?
> > >
> > > I had *120* emails in my other email account today (not the one I use
> > >
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 10:08:01 -0700
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is there a rash of viruses with spoofed origin lines all of a sudden?
> >
> > I had *120* emails in my other email account today (not the one I use
> > on Debian), many of them were Re: Wicked Screensaver. I thought
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 18:57:22 +1200
cr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a rash of viruses with spoofed origin lines all of a sudden?
> I had *120* emails in my other email account today (not the one I use on
> Debian), many of them were Re: Wicked Screensaver. I thought they were all
> sp
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 02:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Scanner: MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.0
>
> Problem description:
> Email data:
> MessageID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: Wicked screensaver
> Scanning part []
>
> Scanning pa
I have use uvscan for a wile and it works, rather haevy but do his job, you
could try f-prot dough it's much lighter and there is a free version on the
f-prot site.
Cheers,
rak
On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 01:47:58PM -0500, Vivek Kumar wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need to install some virus scanner on
you can try CLAMAV
http://clamav.elektrapro.com/
Ray
Vivek Kumar wrote:
Hi,
I need to install some virus scanner on my linux boxes. Can you help me
with the available products..
Thanks
Vkumar
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On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, Vivek Kumar wrote:
> I need to install some virus scanner on my linux boxes. Can you help me
> with the available products..
pick one-two-three from the list
http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail/AntiVirus
c ya
alvin
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Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-12-08 00:03:35 +]:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; I believe you have not send this file
> > intentionally. In this case please warn the personnes you could have
> > infected.
> Actually this e-mail is not originating from my domain but from
> "Received: from mai
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On Saturday 07 December 2002 11:00 pm, Olivier Esser wrote:
> The following message (which I have received from your address)
> contains a file which looks like a virus. I fear this kind of virus
> is automatically opened by (some version of) Outlook e
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 01:39:32AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> I keep a list of AV vendor email addresses handy which I forward all of
> such misdirected list mails to. Figuring that if enough people do this,
> the AV vendors will take pains that their customers set the products up
> right.
D
on Fri, Nov 22, 2002, Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 06:49:13PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> > Colin Watson writes:
> > > They are of no significance. Viruses frequently forge the source address
> > > of e-mails, and it's not uncommon for lists to be those forged a
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:03:38PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote:
> This list allows non-subscribers to post, right? Why is that?
In the spirit of being open to the community at large. I don't
particularly see a problem with this, I'm willing to take the good
with the bad.
Though people really ne
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 17:31:30 -0800
Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 01:16 AM 11/22/02 +, Colin Watson wrote:
> >On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:03:38PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote:
> >> This list allows non-subscribers to post, right? Why is that?
> >
> >If you've been around for a bit
Colin Watson writes:
> It doesn't help that Klez and kin typically forge the envelope sender,
> thus meaning that even correct systems end up appearing like incompetent
> bunglers.
I know that, and so should those who manage the virus scanners. That's why
I'm calling them bunglers for sending not
At 01:16 AM 11/22/02 +, Colin Watson wrote:
>On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:03:38PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote:
>> This list allows non-subscribers to post, right? Why is that?
>
>If you've been around for a bit, you'll have seen really quite frequent
>posts from people saying "I can't handle the
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:03:38PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote:
> This list allows non-subscribers to post, right? Why is that?
If you've been around for a bit, you'll have seen really quite frequent
posts from people saying "I can't handle the volume of this list, so I'm
not subscribed; please c
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 06:49:13PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> Colin Watson writes:
> > They are of no significance. Viruses frequently forge the source address
> > of e-mails, and it's not uncommon for lists to be those forged addresses.
>
> It's irritating that the incompetent bunglers that mana
At 06:49 PM 11/21/02 -0600, John Hasler wrote:
>Colin Watson writes:
>> They are of no significance. Viruses frequently forge the source address
>> of e-mails, and it's not uncommon for lists to be those forged addresses.
>
>It's irritating that the incompetent bunglers that manage these so-called
Colin Watson writes:
> They are of no significance. Viruses frequently forge the source address
> of e-mails, and it's not uncommon for lists to be those forged addresses.
It's irritating that the incompetent bunglers that manage these so-called
"virus scanners" allow them to send out these notice
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:15:55AM +, Pigeon wrote:
> Forgive me if this is a fik question, but are these virus warnings of
> any significance? They turn up every now and then, but I've never had
> the list make my virus scanner scream.
They are of no significance. Viruses frequently forge the
Pigeon writes:
> Forgive me if this is a fik question, but are these virus warnings of any
> significance?
No. They are receiving Klez viruses with the mailing-list address forged
in them and their buggy software is sending out those useless notices.
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Forgive me if this is a fik question, but are these virus warnings of
any significance? They turn up every now and then, but I've never had
the list make my virus scanner scream.
Pigeon
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I use RAV antivirus for *nix made by gecad software
seems to work well
http://www.gecadsoftware.com/page_rav_linuxmail.php
had to pay for it
but thats on the companies bill :)
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To: "debuser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednes
On Monday 14 October 2002 02:21, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> For example, lets
> say that for some reason an exploit is found and it will take a few
> hours or days to patch. Meanwhile, the signature of the exploit is
> already known. In one case it requires someone to write a patch to
> resolve t
On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:43:46 +0930 Tom Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I have not done the numbers, but a cost/benefit analysis would surely
> show that, if everyone installed virus checkers on their *nix boxen,
> the aggregate time taken scanning for viruses must be thousands of
> times the ag
On Sunday 13 October 2002 01:44 pm, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
[snip]
>
> So, what role does the definitions play for a well-patched and well
> maintained system, other than identifying that something is going on? Are
> there unpatchable, intrinsic design flaws that could be exploited by
> viruses? If
On 0, "Jamin W. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 10:22:08PM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:
>
> > Had my message consisted solely of "Nope." that would have been bad
> > advice. But, in fairness, I did mention that there are other steps to
> > take in order to secure a d
On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 10:44:47PM +0200, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> I have to admit that I've had a different view of the whole virus thing. I've
> used that view frequently when I rant about how bad windoze is, so if I'm
> totally off here, I would be nice to be told so by friends...:
>
> I me
On Saturday 12 October 2002 21:35, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 10:22:08PM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> > Had my message consisted solely of "Nope." that would have been bad
> > advice. But, in fairness, I did mention that there are other steps to
> > take in order to secure
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> A second question: I know debian has a command to search the system for finding
>keywords in packages,
> a kind of inventory. I thought it was part of the apt-get command, but can't find it
>there. Any idea.
apt-cache search keyword
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I did a virus scan with clamscan and then f-prot. Clamscan notified
> me of one virus: V801 in file /proc/kcore. Going to this file it is
> VERY large (in fact takes up the majority of my partition). I can't
> seem to rm or shred this file. f-prot called it a W32
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 03:13:07PM -0800, Bruce Burhans wrote:
| My Norton Anti-Virus program identified 2 viruses in the message
| from erich (check spelling- I dumped it in a hurry) @ debian.org
| The subject is a phrase that repeats over and over
| with no breaks
It's
But , for at least 2 months after the dual-boot installation ..
the E: and F: did show up.They did the vanishing act only
after my friend (who I said can be trusted) did his.
Thanks and Regards,
Shyam
Stan & Julie Rock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
> Personally I think its something else. Its se
Brian Nelson wrote:
>
>
> Besides, isn't this the debian-user mailing list, for discussions
> among debian users?
>
Hmmm, I'm right now using a mailer that is not running on Debian. Yet,
I am a Debian user. I'm not even a newbie. How can this be?
Open your mind to the possibilities...
Johann Spies wrote:
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 04:04:36PM -0600, DvB wrote:
> > God, I wish "YODA" would stop sending this crap :-(
>
> If you wish to address God about this issue, I don't think the list is
> the right place to do it.
>
That would be 'debian-devel'. ;-)
Hi Brian
, On 23-Nov-01, you wrote:
> So you're saying newbie questions are appropriate...
Of course they are, weren't you a newbie once? or were you born a genius? ;-P
> But no one wants to read newbie questions. So why are they
> appropriate if no one wants to read them?
So now you are the
* Brian Nelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> "nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Karsten M. Self said:
> > >
> > > If that's the one I think it was, it's the researcher at a major
> > > university who found himself frustrated at trying to get
> > > unsubscribed from debian-user, which he an
"nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Karsten M. Self said:
> >
> > If that's the one I think it was, it's the researcher at a major
> > university who found himself frustrated at trying to get
> > unsubscribed from debian-user, which he announced loudly and
> > widely. I don't think he'll do that
n't you mean:
response to message
- Original Message -
From: Karsten M. Self
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 1:54 AM
Subject: Re: ObElitist (was Re: Virus incident)
> entire message
God, that shit makes me violent. If I ever find the guy at MS who
thought
"nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> which reminds me..anyone seen ethan benson ? he used to
> participate a lot on debian-user..haven't seen any posts
> from him since ive started posting again.
He's been on debian-devel recently, packing some heat...
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nate wrote:
> which reminds me..anyone seen ethan benson ? he used to
> participate a lot on debian-user..haven't seen any posts
> from him since ive started posting again.
He shows up on debian-security now and again.
Craig
Karsten M. Self said:
>
> If that's the one I think it was, it's the researcher at a major
> university who found himself frustrated at trying to get
> unsubscribed from debian-user, which he announced loudly and
> widely. I don't think he'll do that again. Note that I posted
> both on list and o
on Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 10:19:11PM -0800, nate ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Gary Turner said:
> > On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:07:22 -0800, you wrote:
> >
> >>
> >
> > Karsten, you obviously have too much time on your hands. For which
> > I am eternally grateful.
>
>
> karsten isn't entirely innocent
nate said:
> Gary Turner said:
>> On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:07:22 -0800, you wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>> Karsten, you obviously have too much time on your hands. For
>> which I am eternally grateful.
>
>
> karsten isn't entirely innocent himself..i remember pretty
> clearly he was quite involved in a flame
Gary Turner said:
> On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:07:22 -0800, you wrote:
>
>>
>
> Karsten, you obviously have too much time on your hands. For which
> I am eternally grateful.
karsten isn't entirely innocent himself..i remember pretty
clearly he was quite involved in a flame war about a year
or maybe
On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:07:22 -0800, you wrote:
>
Karsten, you obviously have too much time on your hands. For which I am
eternally grateful.
gt
Yes I fear I am living beyond my mental means--Nash
on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 03:30:24PM -0800, ben ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> in light of recent responses relative to exclusionary notions, vis-a-vis
> the elitism of debian, i would like to draw attention to the primary
> reason of my own personal choice of debian. i choose debian because i
> believ
On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 08:36:21PM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote:
> But no one wants to read newbie questions. So why are they
> appropriate if no one wants to read them?
Why wouldn't you want to read newbie question? How are the newbies going
to learn to if they can't ask someone with more knowledge
On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 09:12:19PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> There are a number of skills which help in tackling this stuff. Basic
> intelligence and a willingness to learn help a lot. I try not to be
> unintentionally rude, or intentionally rude without a reason. But an
> ability to take
Karsten M. Self wrote:
Here's my line, usually given offlist:
Post your request in an open, coeherent, and legible manner. That
(That would be "coherent", right?)
means grammar, spelling, using that pesky shift key (but not the one
labled SHIFT LOCK), and attending to issues lik
On Friday 23 November 2001 04:37, Gary Turner wrote:
> I use Agent Forte on an M$ machine. My Linux box is not online yet
> because I don't yet have a second NIC, nor do I understand IP masking
> or a lot of other things. I have asked questions recently in this
> forum. They were, I believe, 'de
On Friday 23 November 2001 04:36, Brian Nelson wrote:
> Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Yes, and newbies are also users, so their questions are appropriate in
> > this forum.
>
> So you're saying newbie questions are appropriate...
Very much so!
> But no one wants to read newbie
Brian Nelson wrote:
>
[snip]
> Although I'm almost done trolling, I just have to comment on this:
[snip]
Now that it is clear to all what you are...
*plonk*
Linda
--
Linda J Laubenheimer
UNIX Geek, Bibliophile and Iconoclast
http://www.modusvarious.net/ -
Brian Nelson wrote:
> Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Brian Nelson wrote:
> >
> > > Debian isn't about holding newbies' hands.
> >
> > What do you want them to use, Red Hat? Heaven forbid.
> >
> > > There isn't a mailing list dedicated to newbies
> > > installing debian. The info
on Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 09:37:59AM +1100, John Griffiths ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> >My point wasn't that people who use a .*Microsoft email client are
> >"lesser beings" because they can't make Debian work; I mean that they
> >most likely aren't trying hard enough. Debian isn't about holding
>
I am a newbie to Debian. One of the things I look forward to is
receiving intelligent
polite answers to my stupid newbie questions. I have experienced
newbie-only lists on other
distributions. They are depressing.
Thanks to all you experienced Debian users who are welcoming and
helpful.
Paul
ai
Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Robert L. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Hmm, when did this become an elitist, better than you mailing list? Is this
> > debian-users or debian-I-am-God-worship-me?
>
> Is this debian-user, or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian's always
> been eliti
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