> > Wow! I said "bad things" about Ubuntu regarding this topic but, just
> > today, experienced the same kind of thing, with Debian Stretch, regarding
> > the vlc "uber Package". Seems it's replacing libvlccore8 with
> libvlccore9,
> > along with several other replacements! So Debian also uses t
On Sun 03 Jun 2018 at 20:05:39 (-0400), Kenneth Parker wrote:
> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 10:02 PM, Kenneth Parker wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >>
> >> >dist-upgrade
> >> >dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of
> >> upgrade, also intelligently
> >> >handles
On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 10:02 PM, Kenneth Parker wrote:
>
>
>>
>> >dist-upgrade
>> >dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of
>> upgrade, also intelligently
>> >handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages;
>> apt-get has a "smart"
>
On Saturday, May 26, 2018 02:08:59 PM Pétùr wrote:
> I don't use aptitude. I use only apt and apt-get but I believe apt is
> just a shortcut for apt-get. `apt update` is equivalent for me to
> `apt-get update` and `apt dist-upgrade` to `apt-get dist-upgrade`
> (correct me if I am wrong).
* [[ht
On Wed, 30 May 2018 18:53:54 +0100
Brian wrote:
> On Wed 30 May 2018 at 00:31:25 +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 29 May 2018 20:39:28 +0100 Brian said:
> >
> > > If a package is upgraded, surely a user would want any new
> > > packages to be installed if they are required to
On 2018-05-30, Brian wrote:
>
> I'm at a loss to understand the argument here. 'apt update/upgrade'
> also provides information that the user can act on. If a package on
> your system acquires a new dependency X, 'apt-get upgrade' will not
> upgrade it (is that really an upgrade? :) ) but apt upgr
On Wed 30 May 2018 at 10:37:32 -0400, John Cunningham wrote:
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 5:37 PM Brian wrote:
>
> > On Tue 29 May 2018 at 15:52:12 -0400, John Cunningham wrote:
> >
> > > Not necessarily. Sometimes the dependencies get out of hand, like when a
> > > big project adopts a small utili
On Wed 30 May 2018 at 00:31:25 +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2018 20:39:28 +0100 Brian said:
>
> > If a package is upgraded, surely a user would want any new packages
> > to be installed if they are required to satisfy dependencies. apt's
> > designed behaviour looks more se
On Wed 30 May 2018 at 08:59:31 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 08:39:28PM +0100, Brian wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > If a package is upgraded, surely a user would want any new packages
> > to be installed if they are required to satisfy dependencies. apt's
> > designed behaviou
On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 5:37 PM Brian wrote:
> On Tue 29 May 2018 at 15:52:12 -0400, John Cunningham wrote:
>
> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 3:39 PM Brian wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue 29 May 2018 at 21:57:31 +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, 29 May 2018 13:18:16 -0500 David Wright
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On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 08:39:28PM +0100, Brian wrote:
[...]
> If a package is upgraded, surely a user would want any new packages
> to be installed if they are required to satisfy dependencies. apt's
> designed behaviour looks more sensible than apt
On Wed 30 May 2018 at 00:31:25 (+0300), Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2018 20:39:28 +0100 Brian said:
>
> > If a package is upgraded, surely a user would want any new packages
> > to be installed if they are required to satisfy dependencies. apt's
> > designed behaviour looks more s
On Tue 29 May 2018 at 22:37:08 (+0100), Brian wrote:
> On Tue 29 May 2018 at 15:52:12 -0400, John Cunningham wrote:
>
> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 3:39 PM Brian wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue 29 May 2018 at 21:57:31 +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, 29 May 2018 13:18:16 -0500 Davi
On Tue 29 May 2018 at 15:52:12 -0400, John Cunningham wrote:
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 3:39 PM Brian wrote:
>
> > On Tue 29 May 2018 at 21:57:31 +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 29 May 2018 13:18:16 -0500 David Wright said:
> > > > On Tue 29 May 2018 at 18:38:40 (+0300), Abdu
On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 3:39 PM Brian wrote:
> On Tue 29 May 2018 at 21:57:31 +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 29 May 2018 13:18:16 -0500 David Wright said:
> > > On Tue 29 May 2018 at 18:38:40 (+0300), Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 29 May 2018 09:14:12 -0400 Greg Wo
On Tue 29 May 2018 at 21:57:31 +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2018 13:18:16 -0500 David Wright said:
> > On Tue 29 May 2018 at 18:38:40 (+0300), Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
> > > On Tue, 29 May 2018 09:14:12 -0400 Greg Wooledge said:
> > > > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 09:31:14PM
On Tue, 29 May 2018 13:18:16 -0500 David Wright said:
> On Tue 29 May 2018 at 18:38:40 (+0300), Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 May 2018 09:14:12 -0400 Greg Wooledge said:
> > > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 09:31:14PM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
> --✁
> > > > I never use apt
On Tue 29 May 2018 at 18:38:40 (+0300), Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2018 09:14:12 -0400 Greg Wooledge said:
>
> > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 09:31:14PM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
> > > apt or apt-get upgrade does upgrade in passive mode: It never install new
> > > packages, n
On Tue, 29 May 2018 09:14:12 -0400 Greg Wooledge said:
> On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 09:31:14PM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
> > apt or apt-get upgrade does upgrade in passive mode: It never install new
> > packages, never removes existing ones. Just upgrades existing ones as far as
> > possible
On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 09:31:14PM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
> apt or apt-get upgrade does upgrade in passive mode: It never install new
> packages, never removes existing ones. Just upgrades existing ones as far as
> possible.
That's incorrect. One of the differences between apt and apt
On Sat 26 May 2018 at 15:45:02 (-0400), Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> On 5/26/18, Pétùr wrote:
> > Le 25/05/2018 à 21:33, Joe a écrit :
> >>> Le 19/05/2018 à 21:03, Hans a écrit :
> Isn't it today "apt update" and "apt full-upgrade"?
> >>> Thanks, I didn't know this new "full-upgrade" command.
>
On 5/26/18, Pétùr wrote:
> Le 25/05/2018 à 21:33, Joe a écrit :
>>> Le 19/05/2018 à 21:03, Hans a écrit :
Isn't it today "apt update" and "apt full-upgrade"?
>>> Thanks, I didn't know this new "full-upgrade" command.
>>>
>>> Is "apt full-upgrade" equivalent to "apt-get dist-upgrade" (or apt
>
On Sat, 26 May 2018 20:08:59 +0200 Pétùr said:
> I don't use aptitude. I use only apt and apt-get but I believe apt is
> just a shortcut for apt-get. `apt update` is equivalent for me to
> `apt-get update` and `apt dist-upgrade` to `apt-get dist-upgrade`
> (correct me if I am wrong).
>
> My ques
Le 25/05/2018 à 21:33, Joe a écrit :
>> Le 19/05/2018 à 21:03, Hans a écrit :
>>> Isn't it today "apt update" and "apt full-upgrade"?
>> Thanks, I didn't know this new "full-upgrade" command.
>>
>> Is "apt full-upgrade" equivalent to "apt-get dist-upgrade" (or apt
>> dist-upgrade)?
> More or les
On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Pétùr wrote:
>
>
> >dist-upgrade
> >dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of
> upgrade, also intelligently
> >handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages;
> apt-get has a "smart"
> >conf
On Fri, 25 May 2018 20:17:52 +0200
Pétùr wrote:
> Le 19/05/2018 à 21:03, Hans a écrit :
> > Isn't it today "apt update" and "apt full-upgrade"?
>
> Thanks, I didn't know this new "full-upgrade" command.
>
> Is "apt full-upgrade" equivalent to "apt-get dist-upgrade" (or apt
> dist-upgrade)?
>
Le 19/05/2018 à 21:03, Hans a écrit :
> Isn't it today "apt update" and "apt full-upgrade"?
Thanks, I didn't know this new "full-upgrade" command.
Is "apt full-upgrade" equivalent to "apt-get dist-upgrade" (or apt
dist-upgrade)?
According to the man pages (man apt and man apt-get), dist-upgrade
On Sat, 19 May 2018 21:27:42 +0300 Abdullah Ramazanoğlu said:
> On Sat, 19 May 2018 10:37:08 -0400 Matthew Dyer said:
>> root@matt-the-cat:/home/matthew# apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
>> Hit:1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security testing/updates InRelease
>> Hit:2 http://ftp.us.debi
Matthew Dyer wrote:
...
these things come to mind:
- perhaps you have automatic upgrades set up on
Gnome?
there should be some record in /var/log/apt or
/var/log/dpkg.log of what is being updated.
- if you have a fast enough connection it doesn't
hurt to make sure /var/lib/apt/lists files
Am Samstag, 19. Mai 2018, 20:26:25 CEST schrieb songbird:
Isn't it today "apt update" and "apt full-upgrade"?
It is also possible, to use "aptitude" (aptitude update && aptittude dist-
upgrade) but be warned: aptitude for upgrading from one release to another is
no good choice. However, aptitude
Matthew Dyer wrote:
> Mornning all,
>
>
> A few days ago I reported a problem whare the gnome testing system
> which I am now using to write this message. Here is the resault.
>
>
> I did a clean install of the system using the alfa testing image. I
> then edited the sources list and changed t
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