Re: Browser preferences/options (was Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody))

2001-05-10 Thread Daniel Barclay
> From: "Karsten M. Self" > ... > Biggest browser beefs: > > - Stability. Quit with the fucking crashing already. Don't lose my > stuff (this includes state). ***STABILITY IS NOT OPTIONAL*** > > - Speed. Render. Quickly. Load. Quickly. Stop. Quickly. Ties > strongl

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-09 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:34:31AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > I've never used IE. Really? So how would you support your previous statement, > > I also would like to have a decent browser that doesn't attempt to > > copy IE. if you had no experience with it. How exactly would Mozilla be imita

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-08 Thread Ilya Martynov
HS> Or, in my experience, and I stand behind saying this, I'd like a HS> browser for linux that *works* as good as IE... I am *not* pro-MS HS> either. konqueror is very good. mozilla is good too if you have a lot of RAM :). Actually I thing both of them have better rendering engine then IE. --

Re: Browser preferences/options (was Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody))

2001-05-07 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:25:56PM -0500, Hall Stevenson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > * Karsten M. Self (kmself@ix.netcom.com) [010507 19:22]: > > > > > > If you're a gnome user, why not try galeon ?? It's site is here: > > > http://galeon.sourceforge.net/. I've used it in the past and it's > > >

Re: Browser preferences/options (was Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody))

2001-05-07 Thread Hall Stevenson
* Karsten M. Self (kmself@ix.netcom.com) [010507 19:22]: > > > > If you're a gnome user, why not try galeon ?? It's site is here: > > http://galeon.sourceforge.net/. I've used it in the past and it's > > quite nice... > > A GNOME environment is not required for galeon, though some gnome libs > ar

Re: Browser preferences/options (was Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody))

2001-05-07 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 06:16:19PM -0500, Rich Puhek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > "Karsten M. Self" wrote: > > > > Biggest browser beefs: > > > > - Stability. Quit with the fucking crashing already. Don't lose my > > stuff (this includes state). ***STABILITY IS NOT OPTIONAL*** > > >

Re: Browser preferences/options (was Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody))

2001-05-07 Thread Rich Puhek
"Karsten M. Self" wrote: > > Biggest browser beefs: > > - Stability. Quit with the fucking crashing already. Don't lose my > stuff (this includes state). ***STABILITY IS NOT OPTIONAL*** > > - Speed. Render. Quickly. Load. Quickly. Stop. Quickly. Ties > strongly to l

Browser preferences/options (was Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody))

2001-05-07 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 07:54:39AM -0400, Hall Stevenson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >> Note, however, if you're shifting to the dailies, that the 0.9x > >> series is rumored to be less stable than the 0.8x line. > > > > N > > > > /me sobs > > > > > > why don't they just throw away that

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Hall Stevenson
> > Or, in my experience, and I stand behind saying this, I'd like a > > browser for linux that *works* as good as IE... I am *not* pro-MS > > either. > > I've been running Opera 5.0b8 here and it works just fine. > Netscape crashed all the time, even under Windows. Mozilla > is getting close, but

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Hall Stevenson
> On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:36:53AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > I tried it. I found it neither more stable nor faster than Navigator > > (though with a 28.8 connection browser speed is not a problem > > anyway). > > I can't believe that. Opera loads about 5 times faster than Navigator > here, a

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Alex Suzuki
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:36:53AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > I tried it. I found it neither more stable nor faster than Navigator > (though with a 28.8 connection browser speed is not a problem anyway). I can't believe that. Opera loads about 5 times faster than Navigator here, and is very quic

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Dana J . Laude
On Mon, 07 May 2001 08:37:03 Hall Stevenson wrote: > > Hall writes: > > > If you're a gnome user, why not try galeon ?? > > > > Because it depends on _all_ of Mozilla? > > I don't know exactly how it works, but the original complaint had to > do with the XUL interface and the add-ons (mail, news,

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread John Hasler
Martin writes: > the i suggest trying opera. it's quite stable and very fast. I tried it. I found it neither more stable nor faster than Navigator (though with a 28.8 connection browser speed is not a problem anyway). -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread John Hasler
Hall Stevenson writes: > I don't know exactly how it works, but the original complaint had to do > with the XUL interface and the add-ons (mail, news, irc, etc). Galeon > doesn't have all this. A complaint I share. > It uses "gnome" for the interface and is only a web browser. But I still have

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Alex Suzuki
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 02:20:24PM +0200, Preben Randhol wrote: > Hall Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 07/05/2001 (14:02) : > > If you're a gnome user, why not try galeon ?? It's site is here: > > http://galeon.sourceforge.net/. I've used it in the past and it's > > quite nice... I am using

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Martin Würtele
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 07:51:16AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > I found it less stable than Netscape 4.75, which crashes several times a > day. > > I also would like to have a decent browser that doesn't attempt to copy IE. the i suggest trying opera. it's quite stable and very fast. well, it's no

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Hall Stevenson
> Hall writes: > > If you're a gnome user, why not try galeon ?? > > Because it depends on _all_ of Mozilla? I don't know exactly how it works, but the original complaint had to do with the XUL interface and the add-ons (mail, news, irc, etc). Galeon doesn't have all this. It uses "gnome" for the

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 07:54:39AM -0400, Hall Stevenson wrote: > > If you're a gnome user, why not try galeon ?? It's site is here: > http://galeon.sourceforge.net/. I've used it in the past and it's > quite nice... galeon indeed works very well. the problem is a mozilla bug is still a galeon b

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread John Hasler
Hall writes: > If you're a gnome user, why not try galeon ?? Because it depends on _all_ of Mozilla? > I've used it in the past and it's quite nice... I found it less stable than Netscape 4.75, which crashes several times a day. I also would like to have a decent browser that doesn't attempt to

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Preben Randhol
Hall Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 07/05/2001 (14:02) : > If you're a gnome user, why not try galeon ?? It's site is here: > http://galeon.sourceforge.net/. I've used it in the past and it's > quite nice... Do you know where one can get the Debian pacakges? The download link on that page

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Hall Stevenson
>> Note, however, if you're shifting to the dailies, that the 0.9x >> series is rumored to be less stable than the 0.8x line. > > N > > /me sobs > > > why don't they just throw away that entire XUL, irc, news, mail, > whatever-other-useless-cruft and concentrate on the rendering > engine,

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 10:15:03PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > Note, however, if you're shifting to the dailies, that the 0.9x series > is rumored to be less stable than the 0.8x line. N /me sobs why don't they just throw away that entire XUL, irc, news, mail, whatever-other-usel

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, May 06, 2001 at 09:00:57PM -0800, Ethan Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 06:03:10PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: > > Is there a way to get mozilla on woody to do strong encryption? The > > docs refer to the personal security manager, but the file no longer > > exis

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 06:03:10PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: > Is there a way to get mozilla on woody to do strong encryption? The > docs refer to the personal security manager, but the file no longer > exists. Mozilla's site says the security is now incorporated into the > nightly build. > > Si