"Karsten M. Self" wrote:
> 
> Biggest browser beefs:
> 
>     - Stability.  Quit with the fucking crashing already.  Don't lose my
>       stuff (this includes state).  ***STABILITY IS NOT OPTIONAL***
> 
>     - Speed.  Render.  Quickly.  Load.  Quickly.  Stop.  Quickly.  Ties
>       strongly to lightweight code as well.
> 
>     - Standards compliant.  Support standards.  Don't promote
>       proprietarysms..
> 
>     - Dependencies.  Codependency sucks.
> 
>     - Bloat.  A browser.  Not a fucking kitchen sink, thank you very
>       much.
> 
>     - Privacy.  Allow me to control cookies, Java, Javascript.  Support
>       SSL.  Default mode should maximise privacy.  Don't do shit behind
>       my back.
> 
>     - Security.  Strong overlap with above.
> 
>     - Plugins.  Suck.  Third party apps should launch as same.  They
>       should *NOT* launch within my browser.  Flash sucks.  Period.
> 
>     - Unobtrusive.  Stay out of my face.  Do what I say.
> 
>     - Configurability.  Allow my to configure:  fonts, scaling steps,
>       colors, animation handling (none), proxies, cookie/java/javascript
>       handling (none, by default), preferred mail/news/telnet/ftp apps.
> 
<SNIP>
> --
> Karsten M. Self <kmself@ix.netcom.com>    http://kmself.home.netcom.com/
>  What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand?       There is no K5 cabal
>   http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/         http://www.kuro5hin.org
> 
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Whew! I thought I was the only one who had a hard time understanding why
a web browser, really a HTML --that's Hyper TEXT Markup Language, yes
kids, that means a way to make boring old text look kinda snazzy--
decides to consume well over 10MB just to get off the ground! More of us
need to scream about the above to Netscape et al. 

To your list I'd add:

        - Cache. It should work properly... if I've got a few MB set aside on
my HD, why redownload an entire page just 'cause I resized my window? 

        - Configurability/Privacy: Let's figure out a cleaner way to say I want
to save cookies for /. or similar sites and not for every other site
under the sun.

        - Cookies: Let me know if A site is offering cookies (if I so chose),
but don't stop the whole show with a damn dialog box a million times
just because the frickin site wants to give me the equivilent of a big
bag of Double-Stuff(tm) 

        - Banners. I hate when a simple little web page that should take 5
seconds to load over a modem connection takes over a minute on a T1...
just cause
ads1.joesannoyingdiscountbanneradshere.com/cgi-bin/ads1234/crappyscript.cgi?makelotsofmoney=123456789oopsbadform
doesn't happen to be responding at the moment.

        - Old OSes. My grandpa used to surf on a Macintosh Performa 675. Ever
try to get one of those surfing reliably with Netscape??? Why the hell
do we need over 500MHz and 64+MB RAM to surf the web and do email?


Gotta agree most with Stability and Standards. A single page of "bad"
HTML shouldn't sink all of H.M.S Netscape. That and "bad" HTML really
shouldn't exist. Yes, I was about to argue that that's really the
designer's fault, but browser-specific tags is what got us into this
mess.

--Rich


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ETN Systems Inc.         
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