Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-04 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"John" == John Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> Hmmm, just wrote a 1,600 article in emacs via ssh. John> I'm not using all the navigation aids very well yet but i John> can see where I'm going from here. Heh, hehI can just see you discovering emacsclient, and then

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread John Griffiths
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hmmm, just wrote a 1,600 article in emacs via ssh. I'm not using all the navigation aids very well yet but i can see where I'm going from here. I really liked the ispell interface. Thanks very much for all the suggestions. John John Griffiths wro

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread John Griffiths
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks to everyone who contributed. Emacs seems to have a very similar control structure to the ancient perfect writer on my fathers old kaypro, so i'll give it a shot as a happy return to my childhood. (BTW the tutorial sold it to me along with Nea

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 05:49:19PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 11:19:52 -0700 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) wrote: > > And best of all nano is free software while pico/pine fails the DFSG > > test. > > Wasn't that how nano came about? A free replacement for a non-free b

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 11:18:48AM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > Yes, I can tell. :( I even have a special vim macro to get rid of that > > damned emacs-style (SuperCite/PowerQuote) quoting, as it goes nuts once > > you're a few levels deep ... > > Note that I use emacs as wel

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread ronin2
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 11:19:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) wrote: > And best of all nano is free software while pico/pine fails the DFSG > test. Wasn't that how nano came about? A free replacement for a non-free but popular editor? Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] w

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Colin Watson wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 09:54:21PM -0600, Shyamal Prasad wrote: > > John> No, not a troll, I want to know if any of the editors are > > John> aimed at writers rather than coders, > > The quoting above, [...] were all done by emacs. > > Yes, I can tell. :( I even have

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Colin Watson wrote: > > Pico? > > I don't know of any good reason to use pico instead of the suggested > nano, unless you're using pine and are only using pico as the built-in > editor. As far as I know nano entirely supersedes pico in all other > respects. And best of all nano is free software w

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread Alan Shutko
John Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > what I'm after is a recommendation from others who might have used > something like this to write 5,000 word plus english language documents. Neal Stephenson uses Emacs: http://hobbes.ncsa.uiuc.edu/nealstephensonOS.html -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Colin" == Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Colin> On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 09:54:21PM -0600, Shyamal Prasad Colin> wrote: >> >> The quoting above, [...] were all done by emacs. Colin> Yes, I can tell. :( I even have a special vim macro to get Colin> rid of tha

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 11:49:45PM -0700, Glenn English wrote: > On Wed, 2003-04-02 at 19:23, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > > Honestly, I don't know that there is a good console "wordpad.exe" like editor. > > nano is probably the closest to what you are looking for, with emacs being a > > (much more compl

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 09:54:21PM -0600, Shyamal Prasad wrote: > "John" == John Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > John> Travis Crump wrote: > >> Is this a troll? I prefer vim, a good number of people prefer > >> emacs. Both will suit your needs. > >> > >> > >

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 02 Apr 2003, Joey Hess wrote: > John Griffiths wrote: > > what I'm after is a recommendation from others who might have used > > something like this to write 5,000 word plus english language documents. > > I've had no problems writing documents in that range with vim. Folding > becomes fairly u

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Glenn English
On Wed, 2003-04-02 at 19:23, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > Honestly, I don't know that there is a good console "wordpad.exe" like editor. > nano is probably the closest to what you are looking for, with emacs being a > (much more complex but featureful) second. Pico? -- Glenn English [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread John Griffiths
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Waters wrote: > > If you haven't already tried it, you might like fte/sfte. > > Michael > > cool, it looks feature rich, what do you like about it? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozi

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Michael Waters
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 12:02 +1000, Joyce, Matthew wrote: > I tried many editors, I found them all crap. > > What I wanted was a port of Edit which came with MSDos6. Alas there is non. > > I did try using RHIDE, a programming IDE, for a while, ok as a text editor. > > These days I just use Tou

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Joey Hess
John Griffiths wrote: > what I'm after is a recommendation from others who might have used > something like this to write 5,000 word plus english language documents. I've had no problems writing documents in that range with vim. Folding becomes fairly useful after a while, if it's all in one file.

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread David Z Maze
Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've never looked at Emacs (actually I have, but the guide I was looking > at was rather poor). Is it easy to re-program control keys? Yes (albeit in Lisp); my .emacs file has, for example (global-set-key "\C-xf" 'fixup-whitespace) to change what ha

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread JS Bangs
> Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > > vim, emacs, pico, nano, ... these are all text editors. How you format > > your text is up to you. (This was written in vim.) > > > > Yep, OK. > > what I'm after is a recommendation from others who might have used > something like this to write 5,000 word plus e

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"John" == John Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> Travis Crump wrote: >> Is this a troll? I prefer vim, a good number of people prefer >> emacs. Both will suit your needs. >> >> John> No, not a troll, I want to know if any of the editors are John> aim

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread John Griffiths
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto Sanchez wrote: > vim also has some neat search features, syntax highlighting (if your >> > prose happens to be C, Lisp, or some other code), online help, and a >> > bunch of others. >> > >> >> Thanks for that, I should clarify that the languag

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread John Griffiths
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric G. Miller wrote: > IMHO, it is better to write in plain text, focusing on *content* first, > and worry about *presentation* much, much later. I've seen people waste > enormous amounts of time formatting draft word processor documents over > and o

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Wed, 2003-04-02 at 20:32, John Griffiths wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > > > > > vim also has some neat search features, syntax highlighting (if your > > prose happens to be C, Lisp, or some other code), online help, and a > > bunch of oth

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 02 April 2003 10:23 pm, Tom Massey wrote: > * John Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-04-03 13:09]: > > what I'm after is a recommendation from others who might have used > > something like this to write 5,000 word plus english language > > documents. > > I've written a couple of 50,0

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Roberto Sanchez
nchez wrote: > > > vim also has some neat search features, syntax highlighting (if your > prose happens to be C, Lisp, or some other code), online help, and a > bunch of others. > Thanks for that, I should clarify that the language I want to write in is english (ok, australian english - close) and

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread John Griffiths
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks very much. Tom Massey wrote: > * John Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-04-03 13:09]: > >>what I'm after is a recommendation from others who might have used >>something like this to write 5,000 word plus english language documents. > > > I'v

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Tom Massey
* John Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-04-03 13:09]: > what I'm after is a recommendation from others who might have used > something like this to write 5,000 word plus english language documents. I've written a couple of 50,000 word novels, a 10,000 word Honours thesis, and numerous short sto

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Mark Ferlatte
John Griffiths said on Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 11:32:37AM +1000: > > vim also has some neat search features, syntax highlighting (if your > > prose happens to be C, Lisp, or some other code), online help, and a > > bunch of others. > > > > Thanks for that, I should clarify that the language I want to

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread John Griffiths
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Travis Crump wrote: > > Is this a troll? I prefer vim, a good number of people prefer emacs. > Both will suit your needs. > > No, not a troll, I want to know if any of the editors are aimed at writers rather than coders, maybe they aren't, maybe the

RE: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Joyce, Matthew
Matt -- > -Original Message- > From: John Griffiths [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2003 11:51 AM > To: Roberto Sanchez; debian users > Subject: Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread John Griffiths
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > vim, emacs, pico, nano, ... these are all text editors. How you format > your text is up to you. (This was written in vim.) > Yep, OK. what I'm after is a recommendation from others who might have used something like

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread John Griffiths
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > > vim also has some neat search features, syntax highlighting (if your > prose happens to be C, Lisp, or some other code), online help, and a > bunch of others. > Thanks for that, I should clarify that the language I want to

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Travis Crump
John Griffiths wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 G'day all. Due to a somewhat complicated set of circumstances I'm looking for a decent non graphical shell based text editor to write prose with. - - basically i want to be able to ssh onto my server and write from a number of rem

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"John" == John Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> G'day all. Due to a somewhat complicated set of John> circumstances I'm looking for a decent non graphical shell John> based text editor to write prose with. John> basically i want to be able to ssh onto my server and

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Roberto Sanchez
- - basically i want to be able to ssh onto my server and write from a number of remote locations. I know Debian is blessed with a plethora of programs that can do this, what I'm after is a recommendation for something that feels good to write with. in a perfect world I'd like decent cut and paste

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- John Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Thursday, 03 April 2003, 10:58 AM +1000): > Due to a somewhat complicated set of circumstances I'm looking for a > decent non graphical shell based text editor to write prose with. > > - - basically i want to be able to ssh onto my server and write f