Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-11-10 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 02:29:38PM -0800, Tom wrote: > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 10:46:33PM +0100, Otto Wyss wrote: > > > On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:32:47 +0200, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > All in all, the built-in editor of Anjuta is exactly what I'm looking Tom > > > > > > Try Scite, you'll

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-11-09 Thread Tom
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 10:46:33PM +0100, Otto Wyss wrote: > > On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:32:47 +0200, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > All in all, the built-in editor of Anjuta is exactly what I'm looking Tom > > > > Try Scite, you'll love it. Anjuta's editor is based on it. > > > Sorry for bein

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-11-09 Thread Otto Wyss
> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:32:47 +0200, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > All in all, the built-in editor of Anjuta is exactly what I'm looking Tom > > Try Scite, you'll love it. Anjuta's editor is based on it. > Sorry for being late but have a look at wxGuide-Editor "http://wxguide.sourceforge.ne

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-27 Thread Alan Shutko
Robert Storey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > OK, you can change it in Emacs too, but not so easily or elegantly. Font > handling is something Xemacs is actually good at. I type in Chinese > sometimes, and the Chinese fonts look terrible in Emacs, but are quite > acceptable in Xemacs. Ok. I've nev

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-27 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 11:53:03AM +0800, Robert Storey wrote: > Now I have a question. Does anyone know why in text mode, M-< > (beginning-of-buffer) and M-> (end-of-buffer) don't work? They work fine > in text mode in some other distros, but not in Debian or Slackware. In > X, they always work in

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-26 Thread Robert Storey
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:01:43 -0600 Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Storey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > To be more specific, Xemacs has more beautiful fonts and lets you > > change default font size. > > I don't see why you can't change the default font size in > Emacs... you

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-26 Thread Alan Shutko
Robert Storey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > To be more specific, Xemacs has more beautiful fonts and lets you > change default font size. I don't see why you can't change the default font size in Emacs... you can change the default font, and with it the size. Is XEmacs using fontconfig these day

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-25 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 11:42:23AM +0800, Robert Storey wrote: > On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:24:11 -0400 > Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 04:22, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > > > > > > Not to start a flame war,

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-25 Thread Robert Storey
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:24:11 -0400 Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 04:22, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > > > > Not to start a flame war, but I don't think XEmacs is more > > > graphical than Emacs21 (Emacs20, yes, bu

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-25 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 10:22:38PM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 19:43, Tom wrote: > > > [Sunday 19 October 2003 19:09] John Hasler: > > > > > > > > To start with, it should be graphical, so vim, emacs and the like > > > > >

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-25 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 04:22, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > > Not to start a flame war, but I don't think XEmacs is more graphical > > than Emacs21 (Emacs20, yes, but not Emacs21). > > I don't think I have used emacs21 but I don't remeber, so I can't tell.

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-24 Thread Micha Feigin
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 04:22, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 19:43, Tom wrote: > > > [Sunday 19 October 2003 19:09] John Hasler: > > > > > > > > To start with, it should be graphical, so vim, emacs and the like > > > > > are no option

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-23 Thread Peter S Galbraith
csj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At Sun, 19 Oct 2003 14:24:37 -0400, > Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > > And CVS Emacs even uses GTK2... > > When will you package it? ;-) Jérôme Marant is planing on doing that soon. It's in alioth now. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subje

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-23 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 19:43, Tom wrote: > > [Sunday 19 October 2003 19:09] John Hasler: > > > > > > To start with, it should be graphical, so vim, emacs and the like > > > > are no option to me... > > > > > > What do you mean by graphical? Emacs has menu

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-20 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 19:43, Tom wrote: > [Sunday 19 October 2003 19:09] John Hasler: > > > > To start with, it should be graphical, so vim, emacs and the like > > > are no option to me... > > > > What do you mean by graphical? Emacs has menus, icons, cut&paste > > with the mouse, mouse control o

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-20 Thread csj
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:05:02 -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > [...] > And as in all open source projects, it's not necessarily the > same people working on Emacs than on the Hurd. You can't tell > Emacs developers to stop and work on something else instead. Unless The Hurd could be implemente

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Scott C. Linnenbringer
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:27:57 -0500, Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Scott C. Linnenbringer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'd say the emacs guys have run out of things to implement. > > Not really. There are a few branches working on longer-term things > already. Also, there are

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread csj
At Sun, 19 Oct 2003 14:24:37 -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > I understand the point about Emacs being as "graphical" as > > anything else in a certain way, but I can't believe *you* > > don't understand what I meant with "graphical". :-) > > I guess

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Scott C. Linnenbringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:33:39 -0400, Peter S Galbraith > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > True enough. But Emacs is _one_ application. You'd think they could > > do better in terms of frequency of release. > > Yeah, but it's a text editor. >

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Alan Shutko
"Scott C. Linnenbringer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd say the emacs guys have run out of things to implement. Not really. There are a few branches working on longer-term things already. Also, there are a number of things already implemented in CVS that haven't been released. Why? Well, t

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:09:54 -0500, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Tom writes: > > To start with, it should be graphical, so vim, emacs and the like > > are no option to me... > > What do you mean by graphical? Emacs has menus, icons, cut&paste with > t

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Scott C. Linnenbringer
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:33:39 -0400, Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > True enough. But Emacs is _one_ application. You'd think they could > do better in terms of frequency of release. Yeah, but it's a text editor. EMACS has been being developed for over 20 years or something. It'

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Nicos Gollan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 19 October 2003 20:24, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > I guess I don't. Emacs _is_ graphical. And it has addons to do just > > about anything. > > Yeah, it's a nice OS, but it's desparately missing a good editor :-P > Further reference: http://ba

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 04:26:45PM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote: > > [about emacs] > > > (And yes, as someone else mentioned, the CVS version cab be built > > against GTK. Hopefully, there will be a release someday) > > One could say the same about Debian

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Scott C. Linnenbringer
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:34:55 -0400, Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 04:26:45PM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote: > > [about emacs] > > > (And yes, as someone else mentioned, the CVS version cab be built > > against GTK. Hopefully, there will be a release someday) >

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 04:26:45PM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote: [about emacs] > (And yes, as someone else mentioned, the CVS version cab be built > against GTK. Hopefully, there will be a release someday) One could say the same about Debian. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jab

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Alan Shutko
Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I understand the point about Emacs being as "graphical" as anything else > in a certain way, but I can't believe *you* don't understand what I > meant with "graphical". :-) If mouse control, menus, tool bars, images in buffers, and being built with a widget too

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 07:43:33PM +0200, Tom wrote: > [Sunday 19 October 2003 19:09] John Hasler: > > > > To start with, it should be graphical, so vim, emacs and the like > > > are no option to me... > > > > What do you mean by graphical? Emacs has menus, icons, cut&paste > > with the mouse, mo

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Sunday 19 October 2003 20:24, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > I guess I don't. Emacs _is_ graphical. And it has addons to do just > about anything. Yeah, it's a nice OS, but it's desparately missing a good editor :-P Further reference: http://bash.cx/?29888 Now, don't get me wrong, I used it for

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Roy Pluschke
On October 19, 2003 10:43 am, Tom wrote: > [Sunday 19 October 2003 19:09] John Hasler: > > > To start with, it should be graphical, so vim, emacs and the like > > > are no option to me... > > > > What do you mean by graphical? Emacs has menus, icons, cut&paste > > with the mouse, mouse control of

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Chris Anderson
On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 14:14, John Hasler wrote: > Chris Anderson writes: > > Build emacs with --with-gtk and it'll use GTK2 > > Interesting: I didn't know that. How does emacs-gtk differ from emacs-xaw All the menus / dialogs / scrollbars are GTK2. It looks and acts like a GTK2 application basic

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Sunday 19 October 2003 19:09] John Hasler: > > > > To start with, it should be graphical, so vim, emacs and the like > > > are no option to me... > > > > What do you mean by graphical? Emacs has menus, icons, cut&paste > > with the mouse, mouse control of the cu

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread John Hasler
Chris Anderson writes: > Build emacs with --with-gtk and it'll use GTK2 Interesting: I didn't know that. How does emacs-gtk differ from emacs-xaw? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "un

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > What is it that people mean by a "graphical" editor? Tom writes: > Well... Built with widgets? do you mean built with a particular widget set? Emacs uses Xaw. > I can't believe *you* don't understand what I meant with "graphical". Well, I don't. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Tom
[Sunday 19 October 2003 19:09] John Hasler: > > To start with, it should be graphical, so vim, emacs and the like > > are no option to me... > > What do you mean by graphical? Emacs has menus, icons, cut&paste > with the mouse, mouse control of the cursor, etc. What is it that > people mean by a

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Chris Anderson
On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 12:32, Tom wrote: > Hey, > > It is perhaps quite a futile question, but I can't seem to find an > editor I really like. > > To start with, it should be graphical, so vim, emacs and the like > are no option to me... You can run emacs in console or gui, depends on your prefe

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread John Hasler
Tom writes: > To start with, it should be graphical, so vim, emacs and the like are no > option to me... What do you mean by graphical? Emacs has menus, icons, cut&paste with the mouse, mouse control of the cursor, etc. What is it that people mean by a "graphical" editor? -- John Hasler [EMAIL

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Tomas Volka
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 12:09:54PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Tom writes: > > To start with, it should be graphical, so vim, emacs and the like are no > > option to me... > > What do you mean by graphical? Emacs has menus, icons, cut&paste with the > mouse, mouse control of the cursor, etc. Wha

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread John Smith
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:32:47 +0200, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All in all, the built-in editor of Anjuta is exactly what I'm looking Tom Try Scite, you'll love it. Anjuta's editor is based on it. Sincerely, Jan. Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- To U