Re: SA going downhill

2004-06-21 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 13:31, Tony Godshall wrote: > According to S.D.A., > > On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 08:18:53AM -0700 or thereabouts, Steve Lamb wrote: > > > S.D.A. wrote: > > > > I agree. I switched from SA several months ago, and am quite happy with the > > > > speed, accuracy of Spamprobe over S

Re: SA going downhill

2004-06-21 Thread Steve Lamb
Tony Godshall wrote: > So I switched to CRM114's mailfilter. > But given SA's framework-of-methods methodology perhaps a > better approach would have been to integrate the better > learning filter into SA. That is something they should have done in the first place. On the other hand one thin

Re: SA going downhill

2004-06-21 Thread Tony Godshall
According to S.D.A., > On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 08:18:53AM -0700 or thereabouts, Steve Lamb wrote: > > S.D.A. wrote: > > > I agree. I switched from SA several months ago, and am quite happy with the > > > speed, accuracy of Spamprobe over Spam Assassin. > > > > I think this thread has shown tha

Re: SA going downhill

2004-06-21 Thread Steve Lamb
Brian Nelson wrote: > The scoring in more recent versions of spamassassin is generated using a > genetic algorithm that finds the optimal success rate while keeping > false positives to a minimum. It's not something I'd mess with lightly, > unless you really know what you're doing. How does t

Re: SA going downhill

2004-06-21 Thread Brian Nelson
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > S.D.A. wrote: >> I agree. I switched from SA several months ago, and am quite happy with the >> speed, accuracy of Spamprobe over Spam Assassin. > > I think this thread has shown that many people have a gross misconception > on how SpamAssassin works an

Re: SA going downhill

2004-06-21 Thread S.D.A.
On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 08:18:53AM -0700 or thereabouts, Steve Lamb wrote: > S.D.A. wrote: > > I agree. I switched from SA several months ago, and am quite happy with the > > speed, accuracy of Spamprobe over Spam Assassin. > > I think this thread has shown that many people have a gross miscon

Re: SA going downhill

2004-06-21 Thread Steve Lamb
S.D.A. wrote: > I agree. I switched from SA several months ago, and am quite happy with the > speed, accuracy of Spamprobe over Spam Assassin. I think this thread has shown that many people have a gross misconception on how SpamAssassin works and how it is fundimentally different than the alte

Re: SA going downhill

2004-06-21 Thread S.D.A.
On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 08:50:46AM +0100 or thereabouts, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 16 Jun 2004, Antony wrote: > For many months now I've been using spamprobe, which I find better than > spamassassin. Easy to set up and not more than one or two false > negatives a day; no false positives at all

Re: SA going downhill

2004-06-21 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 16 Jun 2004, Antony wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm using spamassassin 2.63 in unstable. In the last month or two, much > more spam seems to get through. Here's an example: > > >From fetchmail Wed Jun 16 11:36:56 2004 > Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Received:

Re: SA going downhill

2004-06-18 Thread Justin Guerin
On Wednesday 16 June 2004 04:45, Antony wrote: > Hi all, >[ big snip] > > Is there anything that I can do about this? I know about training it, > but doesn't that need thousands of messages to work? > > A Yes, training spamassassin requires thousands of messages to work, both ham messages and sp

Re: SA going downhill [SCANNED]

2004-06-18 Thread David Thurman
On 6/18/04 7:22 AM, "Antony" wrote: Hi all, I'm using spamassassin 2.63 in unstable. In the last month or two, much more spam seems to get through. >>> [snip] >>> I was just thinking I would have to >>> learn how to use SA, and now you tell me that might not be muc

Re: SA going downhill

2004-06-18 Thread Tauber, Mathias Mailing
I took a look at this, very promising. I've just installed it, and if it works well, I'll create a Debian package. Install is easy enough, although a package is always nice. This would be great! Please keep us up2date here... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsub

Re: SA going downhill

2004-06-18 Thread Greg Norris
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 11:45:07AM +0100, Antony wrote: > I'm using spamassassin 2.63 in unstable. In the last month or two, much > more spam seems to get through. Here's an example: I don't know if it's feasible in your case, but have you considered the SA 3.0 prerelease package in experimental

Re: SA going downhill

2004-06-18 Thread Antony
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 01:00:21PM +0100, Siraj 'Sid' Rakhada wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 06:27:36 -0400, richard lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 16 June 2004 06:45, Antony wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'm using spamassassin 2.63 in unstable. In the last month or two, >

Re: SA going downhill

2004-06-18 Thread Siraj 'Sid' Rakhada
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 06:27:36 -0400, richard lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wednesday 16 June 2004 06:45, Antony wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'm using spamassassin 2.63 in unstable. In the last month or two, > > much > > > > more spam seems to get through. > [snip] > I was just thinking I

Re: SA going downhill

2004-06-18 Thread richard lyons
On Wednesday 16 June 2004 06:45, Antony wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm using spamassassin 2.63 in unstable. In the last month or two, > much > > more spam seems to get through. Yes, there has obviously been new advice going out from spam central. My primitive filtering system in kmail used to catch