Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 3:55 AM DdB wrote: > > Am 17.01.2023 um 07:14 schrieb Stanislav Vlasov: > > вт, 17 янв. 2023 г. в 11:01, David : > >> Looking on the internet it says the passwords are stored in /etc/passwd > >> and /etc/shadow > > > > In /etc/shadow only password's hashes, some data, one-

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread gene heskett
On 1/17/23 01:01, David wrote: Morning All, I have forgotten my password to a Debian PC using an SD stick as it's main drive. Looking on the internet it says the passwords are stored in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow The password string in /etc/shadow looks as if it's encoded, how can I read this

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread Joe
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 15:02:03 +0100 steve wrote: > Le 17-01-2023, à 08:07:02 -0500, Greg Wooledge a écrit : > > > > > >If you went in via a Live CD, and mounted the Debian root partition, > >the next step is to chroot into the Debian root partition. Then you > >can run "passwd root" in the chroo

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread DdB
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 thx everyone for sharing your point of view(s). I am enjoying that food-for-thought and reconsidering ... Am 17.01.2023 um 15:05 schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: >> chroot can be tricky for newcommers… > That's why passwd is nice to us and has the -R optio

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 03:30:32PM +0100, steve wrote: > Le 17-01-2023, à 15:05:37 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > > > > chroot can be tricky for newcommers… > > > > That's why passwd is nice to us and has the -R option :) > > Thanks Tomas, didn't know that option. Will go to bed a bit less

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread steve
Le 17-01-2023, à 15:05:37 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : chroot can be tricky for newcommers… That's why passwd is nice to us and has the -R option :) Thanks Tomas, didn't know that option. Will go to bed a bit less stupid tonight :-)

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 03:02:03PM +0100, steve wrote: > Le 17-01-2023, à 08:07:02 -0500, Greg Wooledge a écrit : > > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 01:53:33PM +0100, steve wrote: > > > Le 17-01-2023, à 07:19:04 -0500, Greg Wooledge a écrit : > > If you went in via a Live CD, and mounted the Debian ro

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread steve
Le 17-01-2023, à 08:07:02 -0500, Greg Wooledge a écrit : On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 01:53:33PM +0100, steve wrote: Le 17-01-2023, à 07:19:04 -0500, Greg Wooledge a écrit : > On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 09:36:03AM +0100, steve wrote: > > Easier would be to delete the second field in /etc/shadow for ro

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 01:53:33PM +0100, steve wrote: > Le 17-01-2023, à 07:19:04 -0500, Greg Wooledge a écrit : > > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 09:36:03AM +0100, steve wrote: > > > Easier would be to delete the second field in /etc/shadow for root, so > > > there > > > won't be anymore root passw

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 01:53:33PM +0100, steve wrote: > Le 17-01-2023, à 07:19:04 -0500, Greg Wooledge a écrit : > > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 09:36:03AM +0100, steve wrote: > > > Easier would be to delete the second field in /etc/shadow for root, so > > > there > > > won't be anymore root passw

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread steve
Le 17-01-2023, à 07:19:04 -0500, Greg Wooledge a écrit : On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 09:36:03AM +0100, steve wrote: Easier would be to delete the second field in /etc/shadow for root, so there won't be anymore root password (it's empty). You can then create one with the 'passwd' command. If you c

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 09:36:03AM +0100, steve wrote: > Easier would be to delete the second field in /etc/shadow for root, so there > won't be anymore root password (it's empty). You can then create one with the > 'passwd' command. If you can edit the /etc/shadow file, you're already root, which

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 07:38:28AM +0100, Toni Mas Soler wrote: > You don't need a live-usb/cd. > If your boot system is grub you only have to change command to exec=/bin/bash > > Once you are in your system you can change root password and others. For the record, the kernel parameter you wanted

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread Jude DaShiell
pass phrase length and complexity. At least 16 characters; Starts and ends with a letter, has two symbols, two numbers two upper-case two lower-case. Nothing found in dictionaries in pass phrase no keyboard walking, no recognizeable keyboard patterns may work for a few seconds. Jude "There ar

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 1:01 AM David wrote: > Morning All, > > I have forgotten my password to a Debian PC using an SD stick as it's > main drive. > > Looking on the internet it says the passwords are stored in /etc/passwd > and /etc/shadow > > The password string in /etc/shadow looks as if it's

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 09:51:46AM +0100, DdB wrote: [...] > Everyone (and their friend) seem to know, how to work around this, which > apparently is common debian knowledge (which is nice). > > But somehow, i feel there could be more caring about avoiding to teach > future hackers by accident.

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread davenull
Hello On 2023-01-17 09:51, DdB wrote: Am 17.01.2023 um 07:14 schrieb Stanislav Vlasov: вт, 17 янв. 2023 г. в 11:01, David : Looking on the internet it says the passwords are stored in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow In /etc/shadow only password's hashes, some data, one-way calculated from pass

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread Bastien Durel
Le mardi 17 janvier 2023 à 09:51 +0100, DdB a écrit : > Am 17.01.2023 um 07:14 schrieb Stanislav Vlasov: > Everyone (and their friend) seem to know, how to work around this, > which > apparently is common debian knowledge (which is nice). > > But somehow, i feel there could be more caring about av

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread Joe
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 09:51:46 +0100 DdB wrote: > Am 17.01.2023 um 07:14 schrieb Stanislav Vlasov: > > вт, 17 янв. 2023 г. в 11:01, David : > >> Looking on the internet it says the passwords are stored in > >> /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow > > > > In /etc/shadow only password's hashes, some dat

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread David
On Tue, 2023-01-17 at 09:51 +0100, DdB wrote: > Am 17.01.2023 um 07:14 schrieb Stanislav Vlasov: > > вт, 17 янв. 2023 г. в 11:01, David : > > > Looking on the internet it says the passwords are stored in > > > /etc/passwd > > > and /etc/shadow > > > >  In /etc/shadow only password's hashes, some d

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread davenull
Hello On 2023-01-17 08:58, Tim Woodall wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2023, Stanislav Vlasov wrote: ??, 17 ???. 2023 ?. ? 11:01, David : I have forgotten my password to a Debian PC using an SD stick as it's main drive. Looking on the internet it says the passwords are stored in /etc/passwd and /e

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 17.01.2023 13:51, DdB wrote: Everyone (and their friend) seem to know, how to work around this, which apparently is common debian knowledge (which is nice). But somehow, i feel there could be more caring about avoiding to teach future hackers by accident. Is this kind of lesson appropriate fo

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread Tixy
On Tue, 2023-01-17 at 09:51 +0100, DdB wrote: > > But somehow, i feel there could be more caring about avoiding to teach > future hackers by accident. Is this kind of lesson appropriate for a > users list? Yes. It's a common occurrence, and trivial to deal with - if you have physical access to th

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread DdB
Am 17.01.2023 um 07:14 schrieb Stanislav Vlasov: > вт, 17 янв. 2023 г. в 11:01, David : >> Looking on the internet it says the passwords are stored in /etc/passwd >> and /etc/shadow > > In /etc/shadow only password's hashes, some data, one-way calculated > from password string. > >> The password

Re: Passwords

2023-01-17 Thread steve
Le 17-01-2023, à 07:58:40 +, Tim Woodall a écrit : One other thing you can do if you don't have a quick and easy way to boot is to manually replace the hash in /etc/shadow with one that you do know the password for. (This might be the case, for example, where the USB stick is for booting AR

Re: Passwords

2023-01-16 Thread Tim Woodall
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023, Stanislav Vlasov wrote: ??, 17 ???. 2023 ?. ? 11:01, David : I have forgotten my password to a Debian PC using an SD stick as it's main drive. Looking on the internet it says the passwords are stored in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow In /etc/shadow only password's hashes

Re: Passwords

2023-01-16 Thread Jude DaShiell
futureproofing could include encrypting passwords then logging those on paper in encrypted form. Just remember where you keep that log and remember your encryption for recovery if you forget your password again. Us totally blind people not only have braille as an encryption technique but other for

Re: Passwords

2023-01-16 Thread Toni Mas Soler
You don't need a live-usb/cd. If your boot system is grub you only have to change command to exec=/bin/bash Once you are in your system you can change root password and others. Toni Mas Missatge de Stanislav Vlasov del dia dt., 17 de gen. 2023 a les 7:15: > > вт, 17 янв. 2023 г. в 11:01, Davi

Re: Passwords

2023-01-16 Thread Stanislav Vlasov
вт, 17 янв. 2023 г. в 11:01, David : > I have forgotten my password to a Debian PC using an SD stick as it's > main drive. > Looking on the internet it says the passwords are stored in /etc/passwd > and /etc/shadow In /etc/shadow only password's hashes, some data, one-way calculated from passwo

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

2020-09-03 Thread Brian
On Wed 02 Sep 2020 at 18:31:43 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > While storage in a file fine for trivial passwords such as those for > social sites storing important ones on the computer is a bad idea, > encrypted or not. So is copying and pasting them. Storing passords on paper in the clear ok, but

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

2020-09-02 Thread John Hasler
While storage in a file fine for trivial passwords such as those for social sites storing important ones on the computer is a bad idea, encrypted or not. So is copying and pasting them. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

2020-09-02 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 08:38:41PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Wed 02 Sep 2020 at 11:34:27 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > > tomas writes: > > > When a passphrase is long (16) I keep a little scrap until it is > > > memorized. > > > > I just follow Bruce Schneier's advice and write all of my (random)

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

2020-09-02 Thread Brian
On Wed 02 Sep 2020 at 11:34:27 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > tomas writes: > > When a passphrase is long (16) I keep a little scrap until it is > > memorized. > > I just follow Bruce Schneier's advice and write all of my (random) > passwords down. I end up memorizing the ones I use most, though.

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

2020-09-02 Thread John Hasler
tomas writes: > When a passphrase is long (16) I keep a little scrap until it is > memorized. I just follow Bruce Schneier's advice and write all of my (random) passwords down. I end up memorizing the ones I use most, though. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

2020-09-02 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 09:20:18AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, September 02, 2020 03:34:30 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > The thing is... I didn't know I can easily memorize that until I > > tried! It's like getting up early without an alarm clock. If you > > trust yourself, it

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

2020-09-02 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, September 02, 2020 05:16:12 AM Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 01 sep 20, 19:39:53, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > That can be a good approach, but a modern approach seems to be tending > > towards multiple whole words, e.g. "book swimming Wednesday conduct" > > (all together as a passw

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

2020-09-02 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, September 02, 2020 03:34:30 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > The thing is... I didn't know I can easily memorize that until I > tried! It's like getting up early without an alarm clock. If you > trust yourself, it kind of magically works. Until you (and/or your brain reach a certain age

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

2020-09-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 01 sep 20, 19:39:53, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > That can be a good approach, but a modern approach seems to be tending > towards > multiple whole words, e.g. "book swimming Wednesday conduct" (all together as > a password. > > A password like this can be easier for a person to rememb

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

2020-09-02 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 11:30:44AM +1200, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > On 02/09/2020 06:42, Mike McClain wrote: > >On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 09:41:06PM +, Long Wind wrote: > > > >>my memory is poor, i can't remember many accounts and passwords > > The more experience you have the harder it is

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

2020-09-01 Thread Tom Dial
On 9/1/20 17:39, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, September 01, 2020 02:42:50 PM Mike McClain wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 09:41:06PM +, Long Wind wrote: >> >> >>> my memory is poor, i can't remember many accounts and passwords >> >> The more experience you have the harder i

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

2020-09-01 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, September 01, 2020 02:42:50 PM Mike McClain wrote: > On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 09:41:06PM +, Long Wind wrote: > > > > my memory is poor, i can't remember many accounts and passwords > > The more experience you have the harder it is to find the > memory you're searching for. Tha

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

2020-09-01 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 02/09/2020 06:42, Mike McClain wrote: On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 09:41:06PM +, Long Wind wrote: my memory is poor, i can't remember many accounts and passwords The more experience you have the harder it is to find the memory you're searching for. That's my story and I'm sticking to it

Re: passwords in my iceweasel

2008-09-02 Thread mess-mate
mess-mate wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 20:17:38 +0200, mess-mate wrote: Hi, i've changed from etch to lenny, so iceweasel become version 3.01. I'd like import my passwords from iceweasel/etch to iceweasel/lenny. Can't find a way to do it and copy .mozilla

Re: passwords in my iceweasel

2008-09-02 Thread mess-mate
Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 20:17:38 +0200, mess-mate wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> i've changed from etch to lenny, so iceweasel become version 3.01. >> >> I'd like import my passwords from iceweasel/etch to iceweasel/lenny. >> >> Can't find a way to do it and copy .mozilla/etch to

Re: passwords in my iceweasel

2008-09-01 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 20:17:38 +0200, mess-mate wrote: > Hi, > > i've changed from etch to lenny, so iceweasel become version 3.01. > > I'd like import my passwords from iceweasel/etch to iceweasel/lenny. > > Can't find a way to do it and copy .mozilla/etch to ./mozilla/lenny > isn't a solutio

Re: passwords

2006-11-09 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 13:48:11 -0500, Bob Schwartz wrote: > Hi, > > What passwords in the latest rev does one need to use to login if one did > not set login or user passwords at the time of install, please? There is always the superuser who can do anything on the system. The username for this

Re: Passwords, Shadow Password and Samba Passwords

2001-02-05 Thread Josep Llauradó Selvas
A few month ago I had the same problem, and a lot of people here solved all my doubts... there are the abstract of the 'Samba Passwords Amazing History': Situation: 1. Samba allows the use of PAM (aka shadow passwords if you configure it) and authentification through smbpasswd.

Re: Passwords longer than 8 chars

2000-08-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 01:48:04AM +0200, Moritz Schulte wrote: > On Sat, Aug 12, 2000 at 07:05:36PM -0300, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira > wrote: > > > I want to setup a Debian server and abilitate passwords wih more than 8 > > chars. Where I have to setup this? > > Potato asks yo

Re: Passwords longer than 8 chars

2000-08-12 Thread Moritz Schulte
On Sat, Aug 12, 2000 at 07:05:36PM -0300, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: > I want to setup a Debian server and abilitate passwords wih more than 8 > chars. Where I have to setup this? Potato asks you during the installation, wether you want to enable passwords, longer tha

Re: passwords broken

2000-06-09 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 03:20:59PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 04:23:17PM -0400, Brian Stults wrote: > > Please, please help me. > > > > Sometime, overnight my work computer seized up. When I got to work, I > > had a blank screen and nothing would change it. So I stopped

Re: passwords broken

2000-06-09 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 04:23:17PM -0400, Brian Stults wrote: > Please, please help me. > > Sometime, overnight my work computer seized up. When I got to work, I > had a blank screen and nothing would change it. So I stopped and > started the computer, and when it came back up I got the usual fs

Re: passwords in .fetchmailrc

1999-05-31 Thread Carl Mummert
The danger in putting your password in .fetchmailrc: it is an obvious place to look. Suppose that I were a cracker, and that I were eager to find a way to compromise your account. (Note the subjunctive here). Say that I find a way to have your computer send me the contents of any file (this i

Re: passwords at Debian's FTP site

1998-07-22 Thread Alexander
Hi... Try it on your own server and find out. ;) Alex On Mon, 20 Jul 1998, Damon Muller wrote: > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 01:35:43 -0700 (PDT) > From: Damon Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: passwords at Debian's FTP site > R

Re: passwords at Debian's FTP site

1998-07-21 Thread Alexander
Hi... Thanks for the tip. *snicker* Alex On Sun, 19 Jul 1998, George Bonser wrote: > Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 01:10:08 -0700 (PDT) > From: George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: Martin Bialasinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Debian Userslis

Re: passwords at Debian's FTP site

1998-07-21 Thread Alexander
Hi... User: anonymous Password: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (this is standard anonymous ftp; if this is not what you mean disregard this) Alex On Sat, 18 Jul 1998, Dave Jones wrote: > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 15:53:22 -0500 > From: Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Debian User List > Subject: password

Re: passwords at Debian's FTP site

1998-07-20 Thread Damon Muller
On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 10:05:28 +0100 (BST) (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anonymous ftp (i.e. you respond "anonymous" when asked for user name) DOES > typically ask for a password, but entering any syntactically correct email > address at this point is usually sufficient (though some sit

Re: passwords at Debian's FTP site

1998-07-19 Thread Mike Merten
On Sun, Jul 19, 1998 at 01:10:08AM -0700, George Bonser wrote: > > He might not have his FTP client (e.g. Netscape) configured. I know I > leave mine unconfigured to prevent people from putting ftp:// links in > their page and snagging my email address by linking to a 2x2 transparent > gif or som

Re: passwords at Debian's FTP site

1998-07-19 Thread Ted Harding
On 19-Jul-98 Martin Bialasinski wrote: > >>> "DJ" == Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > DJ> I was going to download the latest > DJ> libc5 and netstd packages from debian's ftp site and it asks for a > username > DJ> and password when I try to save the files. > > You log in as anonymous

Re: passwords at Debian's FTP site

1998-07-19 Thread Martin Bialasinski
>> "DJ" == Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DJ> I was going to download the latest DJ> libc5 and netstd packages from debian's ftp site and it asks for a username DJ> and password when I try to save the files. You log in as anonymous to ftp.debian.org and issue a get command. You are then

Re: passwords

1998-03-16 Thread David Wright
On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, David B Wilson wrote: > When I boot into Debian 1.3, it eventually prompts me for a password > without ever having asked me for a login name. If I don't respond, > it keeps prompting me. > > Also, when I initially installed, when I logged in as root, it > prompted me for a n

Re: passwords, shadows, and other business

1997-11-07 Thread Ritchard Shadian
On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Oliver Elphick wrote: > >What I'd like to know is, might I be able to use the old working passwd > >and shadow files instead? What files does Linux need to perform any > >password authentication, and how does it do it? I re-added all the users > >that were in the p

Re: passwords, shadows, and other business

1997-11-06 Thread Oliver Elphick
Ritchard Shadian wrote: >I was recently compelled to reinstall the base system on my machine. >... >I restored the old /etc directory and ftp-ed it back to my machine. I >started searching for files that had been changed. I manually overwrote >some of them with the old files (files such