Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-06-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:44:03PM -0700, David E. Fox wrote: >> On Fri, 12 May 2006 11:30:12 -0700 >> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> this is what maildir format is. A maildir is a directory with l

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-06-10 Thread hendrik
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:44:03PM -0700, David E. Fox wrote: > On Fri, 12 May 2006 11:30:12 -0700 > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > this is what maildir format is. A maildir is a directory with lots of > > text files in them. each text file is a single email with all its

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-06-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David E. Fox wrote: > On Fri, 12 May 2006 11:30:12 -0700 Andrew Sackville-West > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> this is what maildir format is. A maildir is a directory with >> lots of text files in them. each text file is a single email >> wit

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-06-09 Thread David E. Fox
On Fri, 12 May 2006 11:30:12 -0700 Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this is what maildir format is. A maildir is a directory with lots of > text files in them. each text file is a single email with all its info > intact. My setup (for a long time) (optional fetchmail), postfix

Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-21 Thread s. keeling
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > After reading how much you like T-bird, I installed it and tried > > it. However, it does not let me use sendmail as the outgoing > > email method. That's... unbelievable. > > Sure it can, it just uses the SMTP method of access. Want to

Re: [OT] Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 14:12 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 03:05:12PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 14:42 -0500, Grant Thomas wrote: > > > I'll bite: > > > I can't stand it when you guys hijack a thread like this. > > > And over something so sill

Re: [OT] Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 03:05:12PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 14:42 -0500, Grant Thomas wrote: > > I'll bite: > > I can't stand it when you guys hijack a thread like this. > > And over something so silly!! > > > > Everyone knows that CLI tools are dead. > > Windows has sooo

Re: [OT] Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-16 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 14:42:07 -0500, Grant Thomas wrote: > I'll bite: > I can't stand it when you guys hijack a thread like this. > And over something so silly!! > > Everyone knows that CLI tools are dead. > Windows has sooo much of the market share that *nix will die a slow > horrible death!!!

Re: [OT] Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 14:42 -0500, Grant Thomas wrote: > I'll bite: > I can't stand it when you guys hijack a thread like this. > And over something so silly!! > > Everyone knows that CLI tools are dead. > Windows has sooo much of the market share that *nix will die a slow > horrible death!!! Hav

Re: [OT] Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-16 Thread Grant Thomas
I'll bite: I can't stand it when you guys hijack a thread like this. And over something so silly!! Everyone knows that CLI tools are dead. Windows has sooo much of the market share that *nix will die a slow horrible death!!!

Re: [OT] Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-16 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 10:15:04 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:23:28AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > > Well, I use vim and I now type "i" in front of almost every word when I > > use other editors. Try to top that! > > > > (I have the nagging feeling that w

Re: [OT] Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:23:28AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > Well, I use vim and I now type "i" in front of almost every word when I > use other editors. Try to top that! > > (I have the nagging feeling that we are not doing this flamewar thing > correctly. Maybe we have to wait for a con

Re: [OT] Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:23:28AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 13:49:56 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 09:02:03PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 11:37:20 -0700, Christopher Nelson wrote: > > [...] > > > > >

Re: [OT] Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-15 Thread Marc Shapiro
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 13:49:56 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 09:02:03PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 11:37:20 -0700, Christopher Nelson wrote: [...] It's so won

[OT] Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-15 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 13:49:56 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 09:02:03PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 11:37:20 -0700, Christopher Nelson wrote: [...] > > >It's so wonderful to have your mail > > > tak

Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 09:02:03PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 11:37:20 -0700, Christopher Nelson wrote: > > On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 01:26:07PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > After reading how much you like T-bird, I installed it and tried > > >

Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-15 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 11:37:20 -0700, Christopher Nelson wrote: > On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 01:26:07PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > After reading how much you like T-bird, I installed it and tried > > > it. However, it does not let me use sendmail as the outgoing > > > ema

Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 11:37:20AM -0700, Christopher Nelson wrote: > On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 01:26:07PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > After reading how much you like T-bird, I installed it and tried > > > it. However, it does not let me use sendmail as the outgoing > > > e

Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-15 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 01:26:07PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > After reading how much you like T-bird, I installed it and tried > > it. However, it does not let me use sendmail as the outgoing > > email method. That's... unbelievable. > > Sure it can, it just uses the S

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-14 Thread Richard
Steve Lamb wrote: You were given many answers that work quite well. If you do not understand those answers might I suggest researching them instead of discarding them out of hand and stating the same question to the same set of individuals mere days later. There's the door. Your choice. *wave

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Richard wrote: > and the fact is, coming from a Window and Mac back ground, it would > appear, that I need some kind of support, > hence asking the questions (over and over and over ) for the sake of > protecting what is already running. Actually what you need is an understanding that in the u

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-13 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2006-05-13 at 22:17 -0400, Richard wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: > > >Richard wrote: > > [snip] > >Furthermore I think that you're not sure what you want. Look at what you > >asked for here. You don't want a database solution but you then say a > >database, SQL, would be ok. So do yo

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-13 Thread Richard
Steve Lamb wrote: Richard wrote: Thought I would re-explain myself I'm not sure why, people address both of your concerns adequately with several solutions all of which work just fine. Instead of reexplaining yourself take a moment to actually examine the solutions people have off

Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-13 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2006-05-13 at 15:46 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 16:35 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > > >>Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] > > Does localhost:25 not work for you? > > Besides, you must remember that the Mozilla suite and associated > products are

Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > After reading how much you like T-bird, I installed it and tried > it. However, it does not let me use sendmail as the outgoing > email method. That's... unbelievable. Sure it can, it just uses the SMTP method of access. Want to know what is unbelievable? mutt not bein

Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > After reading how much you like T-bird, I installed it and tried > it. However, it does not let me use sendmail as the outgoing > email method. That's... unbelievable. Sure it can, it just uses the SMTP method of access. Want to know what is unbelievable? mutt not bein

Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-13 Thread Glenn English
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > After reading how much you like T-bird, I installed it and tried > it. However, it does not let me use sendmail as the outgoing > email method. That's... unbelievable. SMTP server localhost *is* sendmail. Is here, anyway. - --

Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-13 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Ron Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 16:35 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > >>Ron Johnson wrote: >> >>>Even sub-folders? >> >>Not sure, never had a server that did subfolders so never really cared. >>OTOH I did care that I tried prior to Thunderbird seemed capable of storing >>sent mail on the

Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-13 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 16:35 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > Even sub-folders? > > Not sure, never had a server that did subfolders so never really cared. > OTOH I did care that I tried prior to Thunderbird seemed capable of storing > sent mail on the server. Seemed dumb to m

Re: Mail issues

2006-05-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi Richard, Am 2006-05-11 16:17:43, schrieb Richard: > Looking for a simple method of doing this: > Main reason for the changes, lost 255,000 email in a mbox format. > corrupted. > > First: > Don't want to store email into any kind of box > ie. Mbox You should use Maildir... > Want email to be

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-13 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2006-05-13 at 12:35 +1000, Arafangion wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: > > >Ron Johnson wrote: > > [snip] > > > I must mention that either because of the location of my INBOX folder, > or because of the volume of mail I Have, evolution also fails for me, > Debian Thunderbird is the only mail p

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Steve Lamb
Richard wrote: > Thought I would re-explain myself I'm not sure why, people address both of your concerns adequately with several solutions all of which work just fine. Instead of reexplaining yourself take a moment to actually examine the solutions people have offered to see if they fit your

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Arafangion
Steve Lamb wrote: >Ron Johnson wrote: > > >>Even sub-folders? >> >> > >Not sure, never had a server that did subfolders so never really cared. >OTOH I did care that I tried prior to Thunderbird seemed capable of storing >sent mail on the server. Seemed dumb to me to force local folders

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > Even sub-folders? Not sure, never had a server that did subfolders so never really cared. OTOH I did care that I tried prior to Thunderbird seemed capable of storing sent mail on the server. Seemed dumb to me to force local folders for sent mail, drafts and other such sto

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 15:38 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > Evolution, T-bird, Mutt, Sylpheed & Outlook, Web Mail are all IMAP- > > capable MUAs. I've read, though, that T-bird doesn't have good > > IMAP capabilities, though. > > Thunderbird has one of the best IMAP impleme

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > Evolution, T-bird, Mutt, Sylpheed & Outlook, Web Mail are all IMAP- > capable MUAs. I've read, though, that T-bird doesn't have good > IMAP capabilities, though. Thunderbird has one of the best IMAP implementations around. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who de

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 15:18 -0400, Richard wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > fetchmail/postfix/spamassassin/maildrop/courier-IMAP > > Ron, Thanks, > which one of these application would allow me to read and reply to emails? None. They are not MUAs (Mail User Agents). Evolution, T-bird, Mutt, S

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 03:18:05PM -0400, Richard wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > >fetchmail/postfix/spamassassin/maildrop/courier-IMAP > > Ron, Thanks, > which one of these application would allow me to read and reply to emails? > none of those are mail clients (programs that read and reply to

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Richard
Ron Johnson wrote: fetchmail/postfix/spamassassin/maildrop/courier-IMAP Ron, Thanks, which one of these application would allow me to read and reply to emails? Rich -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 01:08:28PM -0400, Richard wrote: > Ron, > What components would I need to make this work for pop3 accounts ( no imap) pop3 accounts on which end? We've already suggested fetchmail for collecting mail FROM pop3 accounts and various solutions to put them into maildir format.

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 13:40 -0400, Richard wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > How many clients are we talking about? Just you, or a company > > full of people? > > Just me fetchmail/postfix/spamassassin/maildrop/courier-IMAP Works like a *champ*. My wife and I have been using it for two years w

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Richard
Ron Johnson wrote: How many clients are we talking about? Just you, or a company full of people? Just me for now... Rich -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 13:04 -0400, Richard wrote: > Rich Johnson wrote: > > > > > On May 12, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Richard wrote: > > > >> Thought I would re-explain myself > >> > >> Regarding Mail, > >> What I wanted to do, if possible, > >> is to have the mail fetch from pop3 accounts (several) (

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 13:08 -0400, Richard wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 11:58 -0400, Rich Johnson wrote: > > > > > On May 12, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Richard wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thought I would re-explain myself > > > > [snip] > > > Ron, > What components wo

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Rich Johnson
On May 12, 2006, at 12:53 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:What you're doing differently is that you're _keeping_ the messages   (255K of them) whereas I purge any mailboxes with >10K messages.  If   you choose to use Maildir, I'd advise that you configure your system   to limit the number of messages maintai

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Richard
Ron Johnson wrote: On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 11:58 -0400, Rich Johnson wrote: On May 12, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Richard wrote: Thought I would re-explain myself Regarding Mail, What I wanted to do, if possible, is to have the mail fetch from pop3 accounts (several) ( th

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Richard
Rich Johnson wrote: On May 12, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Richard wrote: Thought I would re-explain myself Regarding Mail, What I wanted to do, if possible, is to have the mail fetch from pop3 accounts (several) ( thousands ) avg 2800 per day and have spam filters applied and rules applied, and mo

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 11:58 -0400, Rich Johnson wrote: > On May 12, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Richard wrote: > > > Thought I would re-explain myself > > > > Regarding Mail, > > What I wanted to do, if possible, > > is to have the mail fetch from pop3 accounts (several) > > ( thousands ) avg 2800 per da

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Rich Johnson
On May 12, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Richard wrote: Thought I would re-explain myself Regarding Mail, What I wanted to do, if possible, is to have the mail fetch from pop3 accounts (several) ( thousands ) avg 2800 per day and have spam filters applied and rules applied, and move into folder, as p

Re: Mail issues

2006-05-12 Thread Stephen
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 02:48:20AM + or thereabouts, p wrote: > On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 04:17:43PM -0400, Richard wrote: > > Looking for a simple method of doing this: > > Main reason for the changes, lost 255,000 email in a mbox format. > > corrupted. > > > however, i just wanted to add tha

Re: Mail issues

2006-05-11 Thread p
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 04:17:43PM -0400, Richard wrote: > Looking for a simple method of doing this: > Main reason for the changes, lost 255,000 email in a mbox format. > corrupted. > // __deletia__ ...sorry for the loss and that i don't have a "substitute" recommendation. however, i just wan

Re: Mail issues

2006-05-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 04:17:43PM -0400, Richard wrote: > Looking for a simple method of doing this: > Main reason for the changes, lost 255,000 email in a mbox format. > corrupted. > > First: > Don't want to store email into any kind of box > ie. Mbox > > Want email to be retrieved from Pop3 ac

Re: Mail issues

2006-05-11 Thread Chris Lale
Richard wrote: Looking for a simple method of doing this: Main reason for the changes, lost 255,000 email in a mbox format. corrupted. First: Don't want to store email into any kind of box ie. Mbox Want email to be retrieved from Pop3 accounts, and (spam filter applied) and moved into folders,