On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 03:10:21PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Wednesday 02 April 2014 19:31:59 Stephen Allen wrote:
> > Yes know about the CDs and the DVDs - I'm talking about what
> > happened during a net-install using the defaults. Geesus do really
> > expect a new user to jump through hoops?
On Wednesday 02 April 2014 19:31:59 Stephen Allen wrote:
> Yes know about the CDs and the DVDs - I'm talking about what
> happened during a net-install using the defaults. Geesus do really
> expect a new user to jump through hoops? You're mad if you do. LOL
Since you are so unhappy with Debian's p
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:33:12PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 02 apr 14, 14:36:53, Stephen Allen wrote:
> >
> > Surely the PopCon results should determine that, no?
>
> Not really, Gnome has been the default for a long time, so it will
> naturally have a much larger user base because
On Mi, 02 apr 14, 14:36:53, Stephen Allen wrote:
>
> Surely the PopCon results should determine that, no?
Not really, Gnome has been the default for a long time, so it will
naturally have a much larger user base because of that.
Kind regards,
Andrei
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On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:35:40AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Wednesday 02 April 2014 02:18:18 Stephen Allen wrote:
> > Lisi said:
> > > Newbies would be ill-advised to start off with Jessie, IMHO.
> > > Stable is a better place to start, especially if the putative
> > > newbie has no help.
> >
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 11:35:14AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 01 apr 14, 21:13:16, Stephen Allen wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 03:05:57PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > >
> > > Install report? Maybe I wasn't clear: from d-i's main menu it only takes
> > > a minor bit of exploring for a us
On Tue 01 Apr 2014 at 21:13:16 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 03:05:57PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> >
> > Install report? Maybe I wasn't clear: from d-i's main menu it only takes
> > a minor bit of exploring for a user to be prompted to install one of the
> > three alternative D
On Wednesday 02 April 2014 02:18:18 Stephen Allen wrote:
> Lisi said:
> > Newbies would be ill-advised to start off with Jessie, IMHO.
> > Stable is a better place to start, especially if the putative
> > newbie has no help.
>
> Disagree - most probably would want testing or SID. Stable is well
>
On Ma, 01 apr 14, 21:13:16, Stephen Allen wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 03:05:57PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> >
> > Install report? Maybe I wasn't clear: from d-i's main menu it only takes
> > a minor bit of exploring for a user to be prompted to install one of the
> > three alternative DEs. Surely
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 11:49:07PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Tuesday 01 April 2014 11:57:03 Stephen Allen wrote:
> > In my opinion no - expecting new users to Debian to read an install
> > report is problematic. Using the net-install I wasn't prompted for
> > what I wanted in terms of a Desktop
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 03:05:57PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Tue 01 Apr 2014 at 06:57:03 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
>
> > In my opinion no - expecting new users to Debian to read an install
> > report is problematic. Using the net-install I wasn't prompted for what I
> > wanted in terms of a Deskt
On Tuesday 01 April 2014 11:57:03 Stephen Allen wrote:
> In my opinion no - expecting new users to Debian to read an install
> report is problematic. Using the net-install I wasn't prompted for
> what I wanted in terms of a Desktop Environment. Xfce4 isn't what
> most users with modern hardware wou
On Tue 01 Apr 2014 at 06:57:03 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> In my opinion no - expecting new users to Debian to read an install
> report is problematic. Using the net-install I wasn't prompted for what I
> wanted in terms of a Desktop Environment. Xfce4 isn't what most
> users with modern hardwar
In my opinion no - expecting new users to Debian to read an install
report is problematic. Using the net-install I wasn't prompted for what I
wanted in terms of a Desktop Environment. Xfce4 isn't what most
users with modern hardware would want in my opinion - it's a Luddite DE.
But not having wir
On Mon 31 Mar 2014 at 18:47:05 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 02:56:09PM -0300, Bruno Schneider wrote:
> >
> > You probably just need some non free firmware.
> >
> > For instance, if your hardware is realtek, just install
> > firmware-realtek and it should work.
>
>
> No
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 02:56:09PM -0300, Bruno Schneider wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Stephen Allen wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 12:10:50AM +, Brian wrote:
> >> On Fri 28 Mar 2014 at 19:33:44 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> >> > Shouldn't the wifi have been configured? How in
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Stephen Allen wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 12:10:50AM +, Brian wrote:
>> On Fri 28 Mar 2014 at 19:33:44 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
>> > Shouldn't the wifi have been configured? How in the hell would have a
>> > newbie been expected to configure it manually?
On Sat 29 Mar 2014 at 08:31:00 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 12:10:50AM +, Brian wrote:
> >
> > You might have been less surprised after reading the release notes:
> >
> >https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2014/20140319
>
> OK Touche - Still not u
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 12:10:50AM +, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 28 Mar 2014 at 19:33:44 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
>
> > After the installation, my wifi wasn't configured (despite it being
> > configured during the net-install) and was very surprised to have Xfce
> > as +my default desktop enviro
On Fri 28 Mar 2014 at 19:33:44 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> After the installation, my wifi wasn't configured (despite it being
> configured during the net-install) and was very surprised to have XFce
> as +my default desktop environment. I had been expecting and wanting
> Gnome-Shell.
You might
On 28 March 2014 23:33, Stephen Allen wrote:
> After the installation, my wifi wasn't configured (despite it being
> configured during the net-install) and was very surprised to have XFce as
> +my default desktop environment. I had been expecting and wanting Gnome-Shell.
>
> Shouldn't the wifi ha
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