On Sat 29 Mar 2014 at 08:31:00 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 12:10:50AM +0000, Brian wrote: > > > > You might have been less surprised after reading the release notes: > > > > https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2014/20140319 > > OK Touche - Still not upgrading but doing a clean install. My > understanding was that Xfce4 was default on CDs, only because of space > limitations - this was a net install. As it was Xfce4 was a strange > looking beast, had a hard time finding anything to configure the > network. Thankfully I'm not new to the cli.
This is more recent: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/10/msg00496.html Gnome is offered as an alternative DE under Advanced Options. > My point is though - How could a new user to Debian (say from Windows) > been expected to know how to get WiFi going? Such a user would serve himself better by installing stable and then upgrading to Jessie rather than getting involved in helping to test an alpha version of d-i. Its inability to detect and load missing firmware would be an immediate showstopper if, unlike your device, his wireless device required firmware. > > You installed a DE so you should expect WiFi to be operative after the > > install if you used it during it. > > Exactly. I'll file a bug. I'm afraid my experience is the opposite to yours; WiFi works as it did during the install. During the install the network is set up by netcfg and wpasupplicant in /target/etc/network/interfaces. The Xfce4 task brings in network-manager and network-manager-gnome. At the very end (when d-i tells you to remove the installation medium) the /e/n/i lines are removed and NM takes over. This last bit does not happen if you install with a wired connection (the /e/n/i lines are retained) or do not have a DE (the lines in /e n/i are deleted, NM has not been installed so in this case WiFi afterwards is unavailable). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140329144127.gd3...@copernicus.demon.co.uk