On Sat, 24 May 2014 15:20:01 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> There are uncountable illegal copies of Madonna's noise
> pollution, she still owns too much money, while other people die of
> hunger.
That's not Madonna's fault Ralf, that's just bad government. There's a lot of it
about. Where's Voltai
On 5/24/14, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 05/23/2014 03:33 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>> Please continue on d-community-offtopic.
> ...and, it's more fun there. :) Ric
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Ralf Mardorf grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-05-23 at 17:33 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>> Please continue on d-community-offtopic.
>
> True, but I have to clarify something, see below.
Then how about clarifying it on off-topic as requested, rather than
stirring it up over here? O
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 08:55 -0400, Jeff Bauer wrote:
> "intellectual piss"
Ok, it's not my native language and possibly it could be misinterpreted
in a way, as advertisings give things human features, e.g. the engine
oil that is able to think. However, even piss might be able to think
more sophist
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 08:55 -0400, Jeff Bauer wrote:
> lulz "intellectual piss"
>
> Try a different translator, Ralf.
I guess the context is good enough to understand, that I tried to say
"intellectual work" that is not more helpful than a bottle of piss would
be, when you want to barter this int
On 05/24/2014 08:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 14:07 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 13:58 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Being against DRM isn't clownery :(. I made a living from artwork many
snip
PS: A "pirate" copy, shared cracked software could be good prom
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 14:07 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 13:58 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > Being against DRM isn't clownery :(. I made a living from artwork many
> > times in my live, without the need of idiotic copy protections. If the
> > people who like your work don't l
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 13:58 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Being against DRM isn't clownery :(. I made a living from artwork many
> times in my live, without the need of idiotic copy protections. If the
> people who like your work don't like to pay you, consider for what
> people you're making your w
On Fri, 2014-05-23 at 17:33 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> Please continue on d-community-offtopic.
True, but I have to clarify something, see below.
> On 5/23/14, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 May 2014 22:31:18 -0400
> > Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> >
> >
> >> > ...
> >> Copyright violation
On 05/23/2014 03:33 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Please continue on d-community-offtopic.
...and, it's more fun there. :) Ric
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Please continue on d-community-offtopic.
Thanks
Zenaan
On 5/23/14, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 18 May 2014 22:31:18 -0400
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
>
>> > ...
>> Copyright violations are rampant on the web.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you for refraining from calling that piracy.
>> >>
>> >> OK, si
On Sun, 18 May 2014 22:31:18 -0400
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> > ...
> Copyright violations are rampant on the web.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for refraining from calling that piracy.
> >>
> >> OK, since you insist, I'll call it what it is - piracy.
> >
> > I didn't think you were _such_ a contrarian
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:13:35AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
..snip..
>
> Once again you can't discuss the facts to you make personal attacks.
I see no ad hom attack. As a matter of fact, the only one(s) I've seen
have been made by you, calling someone a socialist,
People, this off-topic thread has dragged on WAY too long. There's a
Debian off-topic mailing list, which exists specifically for that
purpose - to let Debian users discuss things that aren't directly
related to Debian.
PLEASE, for the love of $DEITY and to have some compassion for the
people who
On 5/19/2014 9:00 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/19/2014 8:33 AM, Richard Hector wrote:
On 20/05/14 00:23, Richard Hector wrote:
On 20/05/14 00:20, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
You cannot link to an image on my site. But you can provide a link to
that image. An im
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On 05/19/2014 08:42 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 5/19/2014 8:32 AM, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 05/18/2014 10:31 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> Yes, I understand the difference. The license I grant you to use
>>> my copyrighted material says what
On 20/05/14 00:49, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 5/19/2014 8:33 AM, Richard Hector wrote:
>> On 20/05/14 00:23, Richard Hector wrote:
>>> On 20/05/14 00:20, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
You cannot link to an image on my site. But you can provide a link to
that image. An important difference.
>>>
>>
On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 5/19/2014 8:33 AM, Richard Hector wrote:
>> On 20/05/14 00:23, Richard Hector wrote:
>>> On 20/05/14 00:20, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
You cannot link to an image on my site. But you can provide a link to
that image. An important difference.
>>>
>>> I co
On 5/19/2014 8:46 AM, Richard Hector wrote:
On 20/05/14 00:37, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Linking to an image on my site makes it look like the image is a part of
your site. If I own the copyright on that image, that is a violation of
the copyright.
That appears to be still a subject of debate. My
On 5/19/2014 8:33 AM, Richard Hector wrote:
On 20/05/14 00:23, Richard Hector wrote:
On 20/05/14 00:20, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
You cannot link to an image on my site. But you can provide a link to
that image. An important difference.
I confess I don't see that difference.
Are you saying that
On 20/05/14 00:37, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> Linking to an image on my site makes it look like the image is a part of
> your site. If I own the copyright on that image, that is a violation of
> the copyright.
That appears to be still a subject of debate. My view: If I haven't
copied it, how can I be
On 5/19/2014 8:32 AM, The Wanderer wrote:
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On 05/18/2014 10:31 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/18/2014 10:21 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Actually, you have NO RIGHTS. You can do only what the content
creators s
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On 20/05/14 00:32, The Wanderer wrote:
> What is your basis for claiming this?
>
> As far as I can see, there is no basis in the law for the claim
> that copyright grants any control whatsoever over the end user's
> *use* of the copyrighted thing.
In
On 5/19/2014 8:23 AM, Richard Hector wrote:
On 20/05/14 00:20, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
You cannot link to an image on my site. But you can provide a link to
that image. An important difference.
I confess I don't see that difference.
Are you saying that the link must be visible and not clickabl
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On 05/18/2014 10:31 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 5/18/2014 10:21 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>
>> On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> Actually, you have NO RIGHTS. You can do only what the content
>>> creators say you can do.
>>
>> I'm guessin
On 5/19/2014 8:13 AM, Richard Hector wrote:
On 19/05/14 23:11, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
BTW I'd also like to see evidence for what law prevents linking to
someone else's work.
Who said anything about preventing linking? I never did.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/05/msg00931.html
F
On 20/05/14 00:23, Richard Hector wrote:
> On 20/05/14 00:20, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> You cannot link to an image on my site. But you can provide a link to
>> that image. An important difference.
>
> I confess I don't see that difference.
>
> Are you saying that the link must be visible and not
On 20/05/14 00:20, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> You cannot link to an image on my site. But you can provide a link to
> that image. An important difference.
I confess I don't see that difference.
Are you saying that the link must be visible and not clickable?
Again, I'd still like to see a reference
On 5/19/2014 8:09 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/18/2014 11:15 PM, Richard Hector wrote:
On 19/05/14 14:10, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
But if I catch you violating my copyright, I will have everything you
own.
I don't think the law goes quite that far ...
Maybe
On 19/05/14 23:11, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> BTW I'd also like to see evidence for what law prevents linking to
>> someone else's work.
>>
>
> Who said anything about preventing linking? I never did.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/05/msg00931.html
From: Jerry Stuckle
Date: Thu, 15 May
On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 5/18/2014 11:15 PM, Richard Hector wrote:
>> On 19/05/14 14:10, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> But if I catch you violating my copyright, I will have everything you
>>> own.
>>
>> I don't think the law goes quite that far ...
>
> Maybe not if you're Bill Gates or Wa
On 5/18/2014 11:58 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On 5/19/14, Richard Hector wrote:
On 19/05/14 15:28, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Oh Richard, bless you. Now you've taken away my excuse to pretend I
didn't really know what Jerry was saying and continue to mock his lack
of precision :)
I'm one of thos
On 5/19/2014 7:42 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/18/2014 11:15 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
...
endless pseudo-legal mumbo jumbo
The law.
Well that ought only be relevant to you if you had something
intellectual to actually
On 5/19/2014 7:40 AM, Joel Rees wrote:>> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:31
AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 5/18/2014 10:26 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>>>
>>> On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
I don't care. But if I catch you violating my copyright,
I will have everything you own.
>>>
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
> On 18/05/14 08:42 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>> So Gary, how do we handle this problem of lack of educated thinkers?
>> Cause that's the real problem as I see it.
>>
>> Regards
>> Zenaan
>
> That problem is not solvable, I'm afraid.
On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 5/18/2014 11:15 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>> On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> ...
>>
>> endless pseudo-legal mumbo jumbo
>
> The law.
Well that ought only be relevant to you if you had something
intellectual to actually protect. Like say a trademark, pat
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> [...] he's a bit of a time-bomb and carries an intense anger or
> something about him, [...]
Oh, he's not always a time-bomb.
Don't know what's got his back up today.
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Be careful where you see conspiracy.
Look first in you
> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Jerry Stuckle
> wrote:
> On 5/18/2014 10:26 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>>
>> On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't care. But if I catch you violating my copyright,
>>> I will have everything you own.
>>
>>
>> Jerry.
>>
>> You speak loudly.
>>
>> Ze
On 5/18/2014 11:15 PM, Richard Hector wrote:
On 19/05/14 14:10, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
But if I catch you violating my copyright, I will have everything you own.
I don't think the law goes quite that far ...
Maybe not if you're Bill Gates or Warren Buffet. But I can get a lot.
More than mos
On 5/19/2014 4:12 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 19 May 2014 03:50:38 Lee Winter wrote:
Note that the _statutory_ penalty for a purposeful violation of copyright
law is USD$150,000.00 plus fees and legal costs. Per violation.
***In the ***United States***. This is an international list.
On 19/05/14 20:07, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Monday 19 May 2014 04:15:06 Richard Hector wrote:
>> BTW I'd also like to see evidence for what law prevents linking to
>> someone else's work.
>
> Copyright law is not internationally agreed world-wide. It does not hold
> identically and equally in all
On 5/19/14, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Monday 19 May 2014 03:50:38 Lee Winter wrote:
>> Note that the _statutory_ penalty for a purposeful violation of copyright
>> law is USD$150,000.00 plus fees and legal costs. Per violation.
>
> ***In the ***United States***. This is an international list.
>
>>
On Monday 19 May 2014 03:50:38 Lee Winter wrote:
> Note that the _statutory_ penalty for a purposeful violation of copyright
> law is USD$150,000.00 plus fees and legal costs. Per violation.
***In the ***United States***. This is an international list.
> Are you really going to admit in this pu
On Monday 19 May 2014 04:15:06 Richard Hector wrote:
> BTW I'd also like to see evidence for what law prevents linking to
> someone else's work.
Copyright law is not internationally agreed world-wide. It does not hold
identically and equally in all countries. So it is not an absolute.
Lisi
-
On 5/19/14, Richard Hector wrote:
> On 19/05/14 15:28, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>> Oh Richard, bless you. Now you've taken away my excuse to pretend I
>> didn't really know what Jerry was saying and continue to mock his lack
>> of precision :)
>
> I'm one of those you mentioned that has trouble resi
On 19/05/14 15:28, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> Oh Richard, bless you. Now you've taken away my excuse to pretend I
> didn't really know what Jerry was saying and continue to mock his lack
> of precision :)
I'm one of those you mentioned that has trouble resisting reading every
email. Deliberate troll
On 5/19/14, Richard Hector wrote:
> On 19/05/14 14:10, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> But if I catch you violating my copyright, I will have everything you
>> own.
>
> I don't think the law goes quite that far ...
:)
I'm glad I drew him out that far, personally.
> BTW I'd also like to see evidence fo
On 19/05/14 15:15, Gary Dale wrote:
>> So Gary, how do we handle this problem of lack of educated thinkers?
>> Cause that's the real problem as I see it.
>>
>> Regards
>> Zenaan
> That problem is not solvable, I'm afraid. That's why people who do think
> about issues have a duty to speak up about t
On 5/19/14, Lee Winter wrote:
> On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> Those who (...whatever...) create content get to decide HOW THEY
>> DISTRIBUTE or otherwise SELL that content.
>>
>> No more. No less.
>
> Wrong.
>
>> Once it's on my computer, on in my brain, it's mine. I
On 19/05/14 14:10, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> But if I catch you violating my copyright, I will have everything you own.
I don't think the law goes quite that far ...
BTW I'd also like to see evidence for what law prevents linking to
someone else's work.
Overall, though, this argument seems fairly p
On 18/05/14 08:42 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On 5/15/14, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 15 mai 14, 00:27:08, Gary Dale wrote:
I disagree. Browser support for DRM makes it easier for people to provide
content that uses DRM. After all, if every browser supports it, why not
use it?
Debian is based
On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
...
endless pseudo-legal mumbo jumbo
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On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Those who (...whatever...) create content get to decide HOW THEY
> DISTRIBUTE or otherwise SELL that content.
>
> No more. No less.
>
Wrong.
>
> Once it's on my computer, on in my brain, it's mine. I can do with it
> as I choose, and wit
On 5/18/2014 10:26 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
I don't care. But if I catch you violating my copyright,
I will have everything you own.
Jerry.
You speak loudly.
Zenaan
And truthfully. Ask your attorney.
Jerry
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On 5/18/2014 10:21 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/18/2014 8:54 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On 5/16/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/15/2014 12:16 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
On 15/05/14 04:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 15 mai 14, 00:27:08, Gary Dale wrote:
I d
On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> I don't care. But if I catch you violating my copyright,
> I will have everything you own.
Jerry.
You speak loudly.
Zenaan
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On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 5/18/2014 8:54 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>> On 5/16/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> On 5/15/2014 12:16 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
On 15/05/14 04:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 15 mai 14, 00:27:08, Gary Dale wrote:
>> I disagree. Browser support fo
On 5/18/2014 10:00 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On 5/16/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/15/2014 1:53 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
On 15/05/14 01:33 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/15/2014 12:16 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
On 15/05/14 04:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 15 mai 14, 00:27:08, Gary Dale wrote:
On 5/16/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 5/15/2014 1:53 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
>> On 15/05/14 01:33 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> On 5/15/2014 12:16 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
On 15/05/14 04:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 15 mai 14, 00:27:08, Gary Dale wrote:
>> I disagree. Browser support
On 5/18/2014 8:54 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On 5/16/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/15/2014 12:16 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
On 15/05/14 04:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 15 mai 14, 00:27:08, Gary Dale wrote:
I disagree. Browser support for DRM makes it easier for people to
provide
content tha
On 5/16/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 5/15/2014 12:16 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
>> On 15/05/14 04:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>>> On Jo, 15 mai 14, 00:27:08, Gary Dale wrote:
I disagree. Browser support for DRM makes it easier for people to
provide
content that uses DRM. After all, if e
On 5/15/14, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 15 mai 14, 00:27:08, Gary Dale wrote:
>> I disagree. Browser support for DRM makes it easier for people to provide
>> content that uses DRM. After all, if every browser supports it, why not
>> use it?
>>
>> Debian is based on freedom. Iceweasel exists bec
On 5/16/14, Gary Dale wrote:
> On 15/05/14 04:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>> On Jo, 15 mai 14, 00:27:08, Gary Dale wrote:
>>> To not remove digital restrictions support undermines a
>>> major strength of Debian. If people want DRM, they can always download
>>> Firefox but they should have a choic
>> Debian is based on freedom.
>
> Yes.
> Freedom to choose.
> Free will - have you heard of the concept? Or is that redundant in the
> new world where someone will tell me what to think and ensure laws and
> protests against bad weather and sharp corners on furniture?
Yes, pretty well redundant.
On Friday 16 May 2014 19:13:11 Brian wrote:
> The iplayer offerings can be viewed on all platforms. It uses Flash.
Now, yes. But not initially. And the BBC wasn't put off by the fact that
only one browser could read their content. It was put off by the large
volume of loud complaints from lic
On Fri 16 May 2014 at 10:49:50 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
> On 16/05/14 05:01 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >
> >BBC iPlayer did this for some while. But they had a problem. They were
> >refusing people access to content for which they had paid.
> >
> Not 100% familiar with the BBC situation, but I recal
On 16/05/14 05:01 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
Sent to list, where it ought to have gone in the first place. Sorry, Gary.
On Thursday 15 May 2014 20:59:22 Gary Dale wrote:
If only one browser supports DRM,
I'll think twice before doing it.
And having though twice you'll go ahead and use it.
BBC iPl
Sent to list, where it ought to have gone in the first place. Sorry, Gary.
On Thursday 15 May 2014 20:59:22 Gary Dale wrote:
> If only one browser supports DRM,
> I'll think twice before doing it.
And having though twice you'll go ahead and use it.
BBC iPlayer did this for some while. But they
On 16/05/14 05:59, Gary Dale wrote:
> On 15/05/14 02:31 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 5/15/2014 1:53 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
>>> On 15/05/14 01:33 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/15/2014 12:16 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
> On 15/05/14 04:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>> On Jo, 15 mai 14, 00:27:08,
On 15/05/14 02:31 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/15/2014 1:53 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
On 15/05/14 01:33 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/15/2014 12:16 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
On 15/05/14 04:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 15 mai 14, 00:27:08, Gary Dale wrote:
I disagree. Browser support for DRM ma
On 5/15/2014 1:53 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
On 15/05/14 01:33 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/15/2014 12:16 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
On 15/05/14 04:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 15 mai 14, 00:27:08, Gary Dale wrote:
I disagree. Browser support for DRM makes it easier for people to
provide
content
On 14May15:1830+0200, Francesco Ariis wrote:
> I guess this is going to be a debated topic. Having seen this [1], I do not
> think there is any way to implement meaningful (for the companies) CDMs
> without
> having them in non-free.
>
> [1]
> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/encr
On 16/05/14 03:46, Gary Dale wrote:
> On 15/05/14 01:33 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 16/05/14 02:13, Gary Dale wrote:
>>> On 15/05/14 12:51 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 15/05/14 14:27, Gary Dale wrote:
> On 14/05/14 11:23 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 15/05/14 13:09, Gary Dale wro
On 15/05/14 01:33 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/15/2014 12:16 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
On 15/05/14 04:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 15 mai 14, 00:27:08, Gary Dale wrote:
I disagree. Browser support for DRM makes it easier for people to
provide
content that uses DRM. After all, if every brows
On 15/05/14 01:33 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 16/05/14 02:13, Gary Dale wrote:
On 15/05/14 12:51 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 15/05/14 14:27, Gary Dale wrote:
On 14/05/14 11:23 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 15/05/14 13:09, Gary Dale wrote:
The FSF has just let everyone know that Mozilla and
On 16/05/14 02:13, Gary Dale wrote:
> On 15/05/14 12:51 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 15/05/14 14:27, Gary Dale wrote:
>>> On 14/05/14 11:23 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 15/05/14 13:09, Gary Dale wrote:
> The FSF has just let everyone know that Mozilla and Adobe
> have signed a deal
On 5/15/2014 12:16 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
On 15/05/14 04:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 15 mai 14, 00:27:08, Gary Dale wrote:
I disagree. Browser support for DRM makes it easier for people to
provide
content that uses DRM. After all, if every browser supports it, why
not use
it?
Debian is b
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:16:07PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
> I disagree again. The presence of DRM material is an affront to the
> open nature of the web. Mozilla's decision to cave in to the DRM
> crowd doesn't need to be echoed by Debian. DRM isn't a user's
> choice. It's the choice of the site o
On 15/05/14 04:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 15 mai 14, 00:27:08, Gary Dale wrote:
I disagree. Browser support for DRM makes it easier for people to provide
content that uses DRM. After all, if every browser supports it, why not use
it?
Debian is based on freedom. Iceweasel exists because
On 15/05/14 12:51 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 15/05/14 14:27, Gary Dale wrote:
On 14/05/14 11:23 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 15/05/14 13:09, Gary Dale wrote:
The FSF has just let everyone know that Mozilla and Adobe have signed a
deal to support DRM in Firefox.
So did Mozilla - in fact they
On Jo, 15 mai 14, 00:27:08, Gary Dale wrote:
>
> I disagree. Browser support for DRM makes it easier for people to provide
> content that uses DRM. After all, if every browser supports it, why not use
> it?
>
> Debian is based on freedom. Iceweasel exists because Firefox contained
> proprietary p
On 15/05/14 14:27, Gary Dale wrote:
> On 14/05/14 11:23 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 15/05/14 13:09, Gary Dale wrote:
>>> The FSF has just let everyone know that Mozilla and Adobe have signed a
>>> deal to support DRM in Firefox.
>> So did Mozilla - in fact they've been letting everyone know for
On 14/05/14 11:23 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 15/05/14 13:09, Gary Dale wrote:
The FSF has just let everyone know that Mozilla and Adobe have signed a
deal to support DRM in Firefox.
So did Mozilla - in fact they've been letting everyone know for the last
year. Hardly a secret.
I trust that
On 15/05/14 13:09, Gary Dale wrote:
> The FSF has just let everyone know that Mozilla and Adobe have signed a
> deal to support DRM in Firefox.
So did Mozilla - in fact they've been letting everyone know for the last
year. Hardly a secret.
> I trust that it will be removed in
> Iceweasel.
DRM s
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