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Date: Friday, 19 March 1999 2:58
Subject: Re: I can't believe this
>On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, Richard Lyon wrote:
>
>> Logically it may be better to spend some money on an os which doesn't
require
>> specialist training to understand.
>
>Right.
On Thu, Mar 18, 1999 at 09:42:32AM -0800, fockface dickmeat wrote:
> Could you tell me how?
Run pppconfig from the pppconfig package.
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On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:42:32 PST, fockface dickmeat wrote:
>Could you tell me how?
pppconfig
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debianuser writes:
> Could you tell me how [to set up ppp]?
Run pppconfig as root to configure ppp. Use pon to bring up the connection
and poff to shut it down.
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Could you tell me how?
>From: Lawrence Walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: "debian-user@lists.debian.org"
>Subject: Re: I can't believe this
>Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:07:23 -0800 (PST)
>
>Well I have to say that s
On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, Richard Lyon wrote:
> Logically it may be better to spend some money on an os which doesn't require
> specialist training to understand.
Right. Which one might that be? (I've used dozens of OSes and I haven't
yet come across one like that.)
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Tommy Malloy wrote:
>
> In regard to debian's install being difficult for newbies, there seems a
DIFFICULT???
I find the install for Debian to be one of the easiest around. If it
boots, it will install! I have had more trouble installing M$ products
than I have had installing Debian.
> simpl
In regard to debian's install being difficult for newbies, there seems a
simple solution. At the beginning of the install process have a menu
that asks what competency level the user is. (beginner, intermediate,
advanced) Then have an install procedure suitable for that level.
Some menus could a
George Bonser wrote:
>
> On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote:
>
> > I don't see Deb spending a lot of time playing politics. I don't
> > see Deb developers spending a lot of time on other mailing lists
> > or newsgroups proselytizing Debian over other dists. For the most
> > part, we do
> I see a lot of squabbling on debian-devel and there is doubtless more
> unseen in debian-private about political issues from every conceivable
> angle.
Actually there is much less on debian-private.
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George Bonser wrote:
>
> On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Adam Linford - Prima House wrote:
>
> > The point I'm trying to make is that effort often returns
> > satisfaction and knowledge, which is why I'm here. Debian is more than just
> > software, it's politics.
> >
> > Adam
>
> WHich I personally s
> I'm now taking a course in Linux. It's the only way I can learn
> it. Dos, Windows, Assembler, AppleDos, etc are all self -intuitive. Linux
> is not.
Have you tried a good book like "Running LINUX" by Welsh and Kaufman
(O'Reilly)? It helped me a lot.
The linux HOWTOs are pretty good also.
On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have to admit, there were several times even *I*
> was ready to delete everything Linux on my PC - but my continual displeasure
> with everything MicroSoft kept me going.
Hear Hear I was the same.
Michael Beattie ([EMAIL
On Tuesday 9 March, Kieth Murphy wrote
>* I'm not sure the installation itself needs radical fixing.
>* Please preserve robustness.
>* Maybe we need to represent a clear alternative.
>* Maybe RedHat has its priorities wrong (flash over >functionality?).
I agree with these opinions, and moreover,
George Bonser wrote:
>
> On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Jesse Evans wrote:
>
> > I feel that most of the press coverage of Linux has been tainted by
> > the
> > commercial marketing efforts of certain distributions. If I were a writer
> > and
> > had no knowledge of the subject matter of my current
Folks,
My 2- cents:
I've come from a background of writing dataacq apps for DOS/Windows for
product manufacturing. Maybe that gives me a leg up to getting a Linux system
running, maybe it doesn't.
Still, I found that downloading a dozen or so floppies and installing
to a
On 03/08/99 at 10:21:55, eferen1 wrote concerning "Re: I can't believe this":
> it. Dos, Windows, Assembler, AppleDos, etc are all self -intuitive. Linux
> is not.
Absolutely not. Dos, Windows, etc. etc. are not self-intuitive. They
each assume certain proficiencies,
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On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 11:15:02 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Again, this article was written for the person who is new to Linux, and I
>agree - for the newbie - be afraid. It can be done, but it takes HOURS of
>work and HOURS of reading. Most new user
Well I have to say that setting up ppp in debian was the easyist, of all
the Linux distros and any other OS I have installed.
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On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 09:52:46 -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
>> I think these criticisms are overstated in many cases. Ever try to get
>> ppp running on Solaris? I have installed many distributions. The initial
>> install is only a portion of the problem. T
On Sun, 7 Mar 1999, Mark Wagnon wrote:
>I can't really find any criticisms that were mentioned that reading
>through the docs, or asking on this list wouldn't solve.
First off, I agree with you. However, people don't want to have to read
through the docs, or rather, "hunt" through the docs. Peop
On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, eferen1 wrote:
> with me. I'm now taking a course in Linux. It's the only way I can learn
> it. Dos, Windows, Assembler, AppleDos, etc are all self -intuitive. Linux
> is not.
I disagree with this. Linux is no less self-intuitive than DOS or
assembler (or any lang
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> | quarter of 1901 due to year 2000 problems.
>
This is really good! I will put
I read similar articles like this too. They are not really biased simply
because they promote Redhat's Linux. The Debian system is a collection of
high level puzzle pieces that an under-experienced user would have great
difficulty using.
On the other hand, you have Redhat and Caldera with their
In a message dated 3/7/99 10:45:21 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 ($38.95 direct) ...
> ...Windows users should steer clear of Debian.
I completely agree. Your forget, the targe of Windows is those people that
DON'T know an IRQ from an I/O address.
On Mon, Mar 08, 1999 at 00:22 -0500, Brian Clark wrote:
>
> "If you're trying Linux for the first time, Red Hat is the best choice."
>
> If I had to choose for the first time again, there is no doubt in my mind
> that I would go with Debian. Period.
As horrible as it sounds I think I would have
On Sun, Mar 07, 1999 at 09:43:11PM -0800, George Bonser wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Ben Collins wrote:
>
> > Aside from the obvious errors, I think we should note the criticisms,
> > they are actually quite true (they didn't beat around the bush when
> > mentioning them either).
>
> Ben,
>
> I thi
> Yeah, and a whole bunch of other people. Basicly the article's slant is
> be afraid of Debian, be very afraid.
I couldn't believe the way they portrayed Debian as a commercial product --
even the X days of support (that's your job George:-).
The one strong positive they noted -- the packa
On 1999-03-07 22:47, Mark Wagnon wrote:
> George Bonser wrote:
> I've tried most of the distributions. I started with slackware, dabbled
> with redhat, tried debian 1.3 but wasn't able to get past dselect back
> then, used suse for more that a year, and now I'm settled with debian.
Nothing beat
George Bonser wrote:
>
> I think these criticisms are overstated in many cases. Ever try to get
> ppp running on Solaris? I have installed many distributions. The initial
> install is only a portion of the problem. The rest comes in getting the
> system configured the way that you need it. That
On Sun, Mar 07, 1999 at 08:44:34PM -0800, George Bonser wrote:
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/features/opensource/390823.html
>
> zdnet did a review of Debian. Included are such comments as:
>
> Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 ($38.95 direct) ...
> ...Windows users should steer clear of Debian.
Aside from th
George Bonser said:
//http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/features/opensource/390823.html
//
//zdnet did a review of Debian. Included are such comments as:
//
//Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 ($38.95 direct) ...
//...Windows users should steer clear of Debian.
//
//...The company says it will include a new applicatio
On 07/06/98 at 09:47 PM, Mark Panzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>Mike Merten wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 06, 1998 at 09:51:52PM +0200, Shiraz Sayani wrote:
>> > I seem to have been receiving some spam which started after I asked
>> > a question on this list (note the new mung).
>>
>> As a matter of
>> Johann Spies wrote:
>> >I have also received the beanie-bag spam. I received the followin message
>> >last week and just want to know whether some of you did also receive it:
>>
>> I received a message with similar text which I forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> They said they were dealing
On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Shiraz Sayani wrote:
> Thomas Apel wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > Just for the record: I also got this beanie-baby-thing twice the last
> > month. But not from AOL. The first was from msn.com and the second from
> > fuse.net. But as "Somnolent" already said I'm not 100% sure i
On Tue, Jul 07, 1998 at 08:53:28AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> I have also received the beanie-bag spam. I received the followin message
> last week and just want to know whether some of you did also receive it:
>
> >Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 00:13:20 EDT
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To
Thomas Apel wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> Just for the record: I also got this beanie-baby-thing twice the last
> month. But not from AOL. The first was from msn.com and the second from
> fuse.net. But as "Somnolent" already said I'm not 100% sure if this is
> somehow related to this list.
>
Yep. It's pr
Johann Spies wrote:
>
> Hallo,
>
> I have also received the beanie-bag spam. I received the followin message
> last week and just want to know whether some of you did also receive it:
>
> >Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 00:13:20 EDT
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Please
Johann Spies wrote:
>
> Hallo,
>
> I have also received the beanie-bag spam. I received the followin message
> last week and just want to know whether some of you did also receive it:
>
> >Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 00:13:20 EDT
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Please
Johann Spies wrote:
>I have also received the beanie-bag spam. I received the followin message
>last week and just want to know whether some of you did also receive it:
I received a message with similar text which I forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
They said they were dealing with it.
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Hallo,
I have also received the beanie-bag spam. I received the followin message
last week and just want to know whether some of you did also receive it:
>Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 00:13:20 EDT
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Please Read
>Hello, my name is Andy. I know whe
On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Somnolent wrote:
: Mark Panzer wrote:
: >
: > > As a matter of fact, I too have received a few... one from some
: > > jerk on AOL advertising 'beanie-baby grab-bags' and one from...
: > > heck, can't remember which major news net, ZDNET maybe? (didn't save
: > > it) :(... ex
Mark Harrison wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> There is a debian policy. I cant remeber the details but it says
> something like "if you advertise then you agree to pay $1999 per
> advertismentand if you contact us we might discount this rate for
> relavent advertising". So, should someone send them t
Mark Panzer wrote:
>
> Mike Merten wrote:
> >
[snip]
>
> I also had the exact same spam mail (beanie bags and all) there should
> be a debian policy against using e-mail archives for spam-mail
> purposes. It really does get annoying recieving such mail.
>
> Mark Panzer
>
There is a debian pol
Mark Panzer wrote:
>
> > As a matter of fact, I too have received a few... one from some
> > jerk on AOL advertising 'beanie-baby grab-bags' and one from...
> > heck, can't remember which major news net, ZDNET maybe? (didn't save
> > it) :(... exclaiming all the 'neato' features of Windoze 98 ;/
Mike Merten wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 06, 1998 at 09:51:52PM +0200, Shiraz Sayani wrote:
> > I seem to have been receiving some spam which started after I asked
> > a question on this list (note the new mung).
> >
> > Has anyone else had the same? Am I being paranoid, or is it
> > possible some spamm
On Mon, Jul 06, 1998 at 09:51:52PM +0200, Shiraz Sayani wrote:
> I seem to have been receiving some spam which started after I asked
> a question on this list (note the new mung).
>
> Has anyone else had the same? Am I being paranoid, or is it
> possible some spammer is mining the archives of thes
I seem to have been receiving some spam which started after I asked
a question on this list (note the new mung).
Has anyone else had the same? Am I being paranoid, or is it
possible some spammer is mining the archives of these lists?
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