Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-11 Thread Bijan Soleymani
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 07:39:23PM +, Stephen Patterson wrote: >> Other than the venerable emacs? Quanta, Bluefish, Mozilla Composer. > > If it doesn't pass the W3C's validator at http://validator.w3.org/, > it's not HTML. None of the ones you named

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-11 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Tuesday, 10 June 2003, 01:42 AM -0700): > On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 02:10:45AM -0400, lists1 wrote: > > It works heavily toward w3c standard compliant code (and if you look at the > > top 100 sites, I doubt 10% of them are 100% standards compliant, and i

RE: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-11 Thread matt
L PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:15 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Good Open Source Web Development software > > > On Tuesday 10 June 2003 11:42, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 02:10:45AM -0400, lists1 wrote: > > > It works

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-11 Thread Joerg Johannes
On Wednesday 11 June 2003 11:18, Paul Johnson wrote: > > C:\Windows\> reportbug > > The command "reportbug" is either misspelled or could not be found. > > Try emailing them. > Sorry, I should have included \begin{humor} and \end{humor} joerg -- Gib GATES keine Chance! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-11 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 09:43:05AM +0200, Joerg Johannes wrote: > C:\Windows\> reportbug > The command "reportbug" is either misspelled or could not be found. Try emailing them. - -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debi

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-11 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 10:00:06AM +0300, Aryan Ameri wrote: > On Wednesday 11 June 2003 08:11, Kevin Mark wrote: > > So contrary to popular belief, we should not design web pages to be > > IE compliant, since they do not meet OPEN standards. Is this > > surprising? > > Well, the problem is, the o

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-11 Thread Joerg Johannes
On Wednesday 11 June 2003 03:01, Paul Johnson wrote: > I've yet to see it do that, but if that's the case, that's IE's > problem, go file a bug report with Microsoft instead of coding to > thier stupidity. C:\Windows\> reportbug The command "reportbug" is either misspelled or could not be found.

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-11 Thread Aryan Ameri
On Tuesday 10 June 2003 19:18, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 06:15:13PM +0300, Aryan Ameri wrote: > > On Tuesday 10 June 2003 11:42, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 02:10:45AM -0400, lists1 wrote: > > > > It works heavily toward w3c standard compliant code (and

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-11 Thread Aryan Ameri
On Wednesday 11 June 2003 08:11, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > > To sum it up, yes, it is possible to easily design a fully W3C > > compliant web page, which IE is not able to handle correctly. Two > > years ago, I would have ignored this problem, arguing that many > > people are using NS. But, nowadays

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-10 Thread Kevin Mark
> To sum it up, yes, it is possible to easily design a fully W3C compliant > web page, which IE is not able to handle correctly. Two years ago, I > would have ignored this problem, arguing that many people are using NS. > But, nowadays, how can I convice myself to ignore 90% ? So contrary to p

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-10 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 06:15:13PM +0300, Aryan Ameri wrote: > I'm afraid this is not the case Paul. IE is not always able to render > fully compliant pages, in a decent way. I've yet to see it do that, but if that's the case, that's IE's problem, go

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-10 Thread Joe Lazaro
On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 02:10:45AM -0400, lists1 wrote: > On Monday 09 June 2003 14:03, Kevin Griffis wrote: > > I would like to eventually do all my web development on my Linux laptop and > > ditch FrontPage altogether. I am planning to build a site on a LAMP > > machine and was wondering what Op

Re: amaya was Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-10 Thread Bruce Sass
I don't know; a home built gtk-gl version also bombs, but a build against lesstif works fine. You could do: cd /usr/src ; apt-get source amaya modify the debian/rules file to say --without-g... then build a package ("debian/rules -b") sans gtk-gl. I've used "../configure --with-x --withou

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-10 Thread Emma Jane Hogbin
On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 06:15:13PM +0300, Aryan Ameri wrote: > On Tuesday 10 June 2003 11:42, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 02:10:45AM -0400, lists1 wrote: > > > It works heavily toward w3c standard compliant code (and if you > > > look at the top 100 sites, I doubt 10% of them ar

amaya was Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-10 Thread Emma Jane Hogbin
On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 01:42:07AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 02:10:45AM -0400, lists1 wrote: > > I read a while back that Amaya development/updating wasn't very > > rapid. > > It supports the current standard. People who make the complaint that > it doesn't get rapid de

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-10 Thread Aryan Ameri
On Tuesday 10 June 2003 11:42, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 02:10:45AM -0400, lists1 wrote: > > It works heavily toward w3c standard compliant code (and if you > > look at the top 100 sites, I doubt 10% of them are 100% standards > > compliant, and if you have 100% standards compli

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-10 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 02:10:45AM -0400, lists1 wrote: > It works heavily toward w3c standard compliant code (and if you look at the > top 100 sites, I doubt 10% of them are 100% standards compliant, and if you > have 100% standards compliant, you'l

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-09 Thread lists1
On Monday 09 June 2003 14:03, Kevin Griffis wrote: > I would like to eventually do all my web development on my Linux laptop and > ditch FrontPage altogether. I am planning to build a site on a LAMP > machine and was wondering what Open Source web design tools are out there > for Debian. Does any

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-09 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 05:10:07PM -0400, Kevin Griffis wrote: > Thanks everyone for the suggestions. Bluefish looks intriguing. Has anyone > ever used Amaya? I would think that it should be solid coming from w3.org. Amaya works well. I use it whe

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-09 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 07:39:23PM +, Stephen Patterson wrote: > Other than the venerable emacs? Quanta, Bluefish, Mozilla Composer. If it doesn't pass the W3C's validator at http://validator.w3.org/, it's not HTML. None of the ones you named do.

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-09 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 03:33:14PM -0400, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > No, really. There aren't any real WYSIWYG-style web development tools > for linux, not free, anyways. Uhh, you must never bother looking at web standards when you're creating p

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-09 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 02:03:12PM -0400, Kevin Griffis wrote: > I would like to eventually do all my web development on my Linux laptop and > ditch FrontPage altogether. Amaya's the only one you need. Standards compliant, too, so instead of disgra

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-09 Thread Roberto Sanchez
--- Matthew Weier O'Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > -- Kevin Griffis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > (on Monday, 09 June 2003, 02:03 PM -0400): > > I would like to eventually do all my web development on my Linux laptop and > > ditch FrontPage altogether. I am planning to build a site on a LA

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-09 Thread Deryk Barker
Thus spake Clive Menzies ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On (09/06/03 14:03), Kevin Griffis wrote: > > I would like to eventually do all my web development on my Linux laptop and > > ditch FrontPage altogether. I am planning to build a site on a LAMP machine > > and was wondering what Open Source web desi

RE: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-09 Thread Kevin Griffis
age- > From: Clive Menzies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:01 PM > To: Kevin Griffis > Cc: Debian-User > Subject: Re: Good Open Source Web Development software > > > On (09/06/03 14:03), Kevin Griffis wrote: > > I would like to eventuall

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-09 Thread Clive Menzies
On (09/06/03 14:03), Kevin Griffis wrote: > I would like to eventually do all my web development on my Linux laptop and > ditch FrontPage altogether. I am planning to build a site on a LAMP machine > and was wondering what Open Source web design tools are out there for > Debian. Does anyone have

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-09 Thread Stephen Patterson
On Mon, 09 Jun 2003 20:20:13 +0200, Kevin Griffis wrote: > Greetings all, > > I would like to eventually do all my web development on my Linux laptop and > ditch FrontPage altogether. I am planning to build a site on a LAMP machine > and was wondering what Open Source web design tools are out the

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-09 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- Kevin Griffis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Monday, 09 June 2003, 02:03 PM -0400): > I would like to eventually do all my web development on my Linux laptop and > ditch FrontPage altogether. I am planning to build a site on a LAMP machine > and was wondering what Open Source web design tools ar

Re: Good Open Source Web Development software

2003-06-09 Thread Roberto Sanchez
--- Kevin Griffis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Greetings all, > > I would like to eventually do all my web development on my Linux laptop and > ditch FrontPage altogether. I am planning to build a site on a LAMP machine > and was wondering what Open Source web design tools are out there for