On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 09:41 +0100, Lisi wrote:
>
> On Sunday 14 October 2012 21:43:59 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Sun, 2012-10-14 at 21:36 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> > > su
> > > is enough.
> >
> > No, it should be
> >
> > su -
>
> lisi@Tux-II:~$ su
> Password:
> root@Tux-II:/home/lisi# whoami
> root
>
On Sunday 14 October 2012 21:43:59 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-10-14 at 21:36 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> > su
> > is enough.
>
> No, it should be
>
> su -
lisi@Tux-II:~$ su
Password:
root@Tux-II:/home/lisi# whoami
root
root@Tux-II:/home/lisi#
> > alt-F2
> > gksu gedit
>
> That's good
>
> gksu
Wally Lepore writes:
> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:12 AM, lee wrote:
>>
>> Do you really need LVM?
>
> I have partitioned drives n the past (using windows). Not a big deal.
> Easy enough for sure. LVM intrigued me and I wanted to learn. The
> logical volumes can be size adjusted (if need be) all w
Wally Lepore writes:
> For example, when I read helpful suggestions such as:
>
> Type this
>
> 1 | su root
> 2 | gedit
>
> I don't understand. What is the 1 and the 2 for? Do I have to type
> that in as well?
No, don't type the numbers, you'll probably be told "command not found"
:)
It's very m
Wally Lepore writes:
> I know I can go to the menu in terminal under.Terminal-->Reset and
> Clear and it will just give me a terminal window with a blinking
> cursor.
Yeah remember msods; IIRC there was the "clear" command to clear the
screen (or was that "cls"?). You can also type that in
Lisi writes:
> On Monday 15 October 2012 20:11:06 Wally Lepore wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Dom wrote:
>> > You might need to install the os-prober package first. Grub2 uses that to
>> > identify other OSes on your system.
>>
>> I haven't installed any pkgs. yet. But will consider
> http://wiki.debianforum.de/Google_Chrome
Sorry, this link is in German, I didn't notice it :D, ignore this
browser.
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On 20121016_164416, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 16:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 13:31 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> > > > > > Which browser?
> > > ^^
> > > > > I'm only using the browsers that installed with the debian netinst
> > > > > file
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 22:41 -0400, Joe Zien wrote:
debian squeeze does not use grub legacy.
I would suggest you try mepis 11 and install grub legacy in the MBR.
It would automatically create menu.lst in /boot/grub and add all
operating systems
in menu.lst.
It's no big deal
On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 16:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 13:31 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> > > > > Which browser?
> > ^^
> > > > I'm only using the browsers that installed with the debian netinst
> > > > file.
>
> > Wally, you have unfortunately not answered
On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 13:31 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> > > > Which browser?
> ^^
> > > I'm only using the browsers that installed with the debian netinst
> > > file.
> Wally, you have unfortunately not answered the question I asked. I have
> marked it above.
I suspect Iceweas
On Tuesday 16 October 2012 12:51:17 Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 02:44:19PM -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
> > >On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Lisi wrote:
> > >> On Sunday 14 October 2012 00:41:46 Wally Lepore wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Now I can finally join the ranks of Debian users
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 02:44:19PM -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
> >On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Lisi wrote:
> >> On Sunday 14 October 2012 00:41:46 Wally Lepore wrote:
> >>
> >> Now I can finally join the ranks of Debian users and ask operational
> >> questions, help others and start the real up
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 11:58:48PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 17:52 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
> > Also I was just trying to respond to everyone's reply.
>
> You don't need to do that.
+1 :)
Honestly, you don't need to, unless there is something pertinent to add.
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On Tuesday 16 October 2012 07:05:54 Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 09:36:28PM +0100, Lisi wrote:
> > Yes, and you don't need to say
> > su root.
> > Just
> > su
> > is enough.
>
> True, but then su on its own won't "source" root's environment, whereas
> "su -" will source root's e
On Tue 16 Oct 2012 at 05:38:58 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 00:09 +0100, Brian wrote:
> >ls -l /usr/bin/os-prober
> >
> > If you get no output, my first statement is incorrect.
>
>
> So if there's the output
> "ls: cannot access /usr/bin/os-prober: No such file or dire
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 09:36:28PM +0100, Lisi wrote:
> Yes, and you don't need to say
> su root.
> Just
> su
> is enough.
True, but then su on its own won't "source" root's environment, whereas
"su -" will source root's environment as though you'd actually logged in
as root. Try them both t
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 22:41 -0400, Joe Zien wrote:
> debian squeeze does not use grub legacy.
> I would suggest you try mepis 11 and install grub legacy in the MBR.
> It would automatically create menu.lst in /boot/grub and add all
> operating systems
> in menu.lst.
It's no big deal to use anoth
On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 00:09 +0100, Brian wrote:
>ls -l /usr/bin/os-prober
>
> If you get no output, my first statement is incorrect.
So if there's the output
"ls: cannot access /usr/bin/os-prober: No such file or directory"
your statement is correct?
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Wally Lepore wrote:
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Joe Zien wrote:
Wally Lepore wrote:
Hi Debain Users,
I'm at the final stages of Installing NOT Ubuntu but Debian 'Squeeze'
on my dual-boot system. Windows is installed on the 1st hard drive
(/dev/sda) and Debian will be installed on the 2
On Mon 15 Oct 2012 at 17:17:42 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Lisi wrote:
> >
> > No, Wally. Not "if all else fails". As I understand it, you actually need
> > this package to do what you want to do. So grit your teeth and do it. As I
> > said, I am no expert on
On Mon 15 Oct 2012 at 14:59:21 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
> My system won't let me log in as root.
It will - you are just not talking to it nicely. And not acting on the
good advice given already.
Lisi has the advice to use CTRL-ALT-F1. This will take you to a virtual
terminal. Type "root" at th
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 17:52 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
> Also I was just trying to respond to everyone's reply.
You don't need to do that.
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We did confuse you with some explanations and I won't continue it.
Can you open a terminal emulation?
If so, let's continue step by step.
Once you're familiar with Linux, you can allow a user to execute
something in a safe way, that normally only can be executed by root. I
suspect that a defaul
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Lisi wrote:
>
>
> On Monday 15 October 2012 20:25:54 Wally Lepore wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Ralf Mardorf
>>
>> wrote:
>> > Don't run a X session as root, this is a security risk.
>> >
>> > Yes, using a terminal emulation is correct, but
>> >
>> >>
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Lisi wrote:
>
> PS It would really be much easier if you just replied to the list, rather than
> to the list and to all of us separately. It makes replying easier. It is
> also what the Debian list askes for in its code of practice.
Ok got it. I understand. Than
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 21:57 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> My husband says, why do I spend my time telling you again. My answer
> was that I get a lot of help myself. But his inferred suggestion is,
> I'm afraid, right. I can't keep telling you the same thing over
> again.
A video might be the best help.
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 15:22 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:12 AM, lee wrote:
>> > Wally Lepore writes:
>> >
>> >> I just realized something important. When I set my Debian drive (sdb)
>> >> for partitioning, I used t
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Lisi wrote:
> On Monday 15 October 2012 20:11:06 Wally Lepore wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Dom wrote:
>> > You might need to install the os-prober package first. Grub2 uses that to
>> > identify other OSes on your system.
>>
>> I haven't installed an
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 15:32 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
> Sounds good but how do I log into root?
Open a terminal emulation, use the menu to do it, you already found out
how to do this.
It will look similar to this:
[spinymouse@archlinux ~]$
Then type su - and push enter
[spinymouse@archlinux ~
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 15:25 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
> Ok Ralf, I will try your suggestions. As soon as I figure how to
> configure my system to log-in as root?
Don't configure your WM/DE to allow you to log in as root. You don't
need this. You only need to be root in a terminal sometimes.
I ma
On Monday 15 October 2012 20:25:54 Wally Lepore wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Ralf Mardorf
>
> wrote:
> > Don't run a X session as root, this is a security risk.
> >
> > Yes, using a terminal emulation is correct, but
> >
> >> 1 | su root
> >> 2 | gedit
> >
> > isn't ok.
> >
> > You
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 15:22 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:12 AM, lee wrote:
> > Wally Lepore writes:
> >
> >> I just realized something important. When I set my Debian drive (sdb)
> >> for partitioning, I used the 'Manual' setup and chose Logical Volume
> >> Manager (LVM)
On Monday 15 October 2012 20:11:06 Wally Lepore wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Dom wrote:
> > You might need to install the os-prober package first. Grub2 uses that to
> > identify other OSes on your system.
>
> I haven't installed any pkgs. yet. But will consider that if all else
> fai
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-10-14 at 13:39 -0700, Go Linux wrote:
>> --- On Sun, 10/14/12, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>
>> > From: Ralf Mardorf
>> > Subject: Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives
>> > To:
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-10-14 at 21:36 +0100, Lisi wrote:
>> su
>> is enough.
>
> No, it should be
>
> su -
>
>> alt-F2
>> gksu gedit
>
> That's good
>
> gksu app
>
> my recommendation
>
> su -c app
>
> isn't good.
Ok, I will apply when I log into 'root
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Go Linux wrote:
> --- On Sun, 10/14/12, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
>> From: Ralf Mardorf
>> Subject: Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives
>> To: "debian-user"
>> Date: Sunday, October 14, 2012, 3:24 PM
>
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Lisi wrote:
> On Sunday 14 October 2012 16:20:48 Wally Lepore wrote:
>> The link starts off by suggesting I log in as user and then enter the
>> following initial command.
>>
>> 1 | su root
>> 2 | gedit
>>
>> I went to Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal (I a
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> Don't run a X session as root, this is a security risk.
>
> Yes, using a terminal emulation is correct, but
>
>> 1 | su root
>> 2 | gedit
>
> isn't ok.
>
> You can, but you don't need to add "root", but if you'll launch GUI
> stuff like Gedit,
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:12 AM, lee wrote:
> Wally Lepore writes:
>
>> I just realized something important. When I set my Debian drive (sdb)
>> for partitioning, I used the 'Manual' setup and chose Logical Volume
>> Manager (LVM) non-encryption method.
>
> Do you really need LVM?
I have partiti
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Dom wrote:
>
> You might need to install the os-prober package first. Grub2 uses that to
> identify other OSes on your system.
I haven't installed any pkgs. yet. But will consider that if all else fails.
Thanks Dom
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On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Brian wrote:
>> On Sat 13 Oct 2012 at 18:49:14 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
>>
>> Debian Squeeze installed successfully !
>>
>> The dual-boot did not work but I can boot into either Win2k or Debian
>> simply by changing the boot order in the BIOS (hdd-0 or hdd-1).
>On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Lisi wrote:
>> On Sunday 14 October 2012 00:41:46 Wally Lepore wrote:
>>
>> Now I can finally join the ranks of Debian users and ask operational
>> questions, help others and start the real uphill climb in learning all
>> aspects of linux. A lot more reading and s
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Joe wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:49:14 -0400
> Wally Lepore wrote:
>
>>
>> I can still boot either OS (win2k or Debian) simply by changing the
>> boot order in BIOS. Not a big deal. Sure beats swapping drives in and
>> out of the computer. :)
>>
> Editing Win 2
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Sat 13 Oct 2012 at 12:15:25 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
>
>> I only have one shot to get this right or else I have to scrub the
>> install and start over.
>
> Please, no! No more installing from you. We are exhausted. :)
I know but its frustratin
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 4:14 AM, Joe wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 00:40:40 -0400
> Wally Lepore wrote:
>
>>
>> If I choose NO to the installer's question as to placing GRUB in the
>> MBR of the 1st drive. What are my choices as to where to install it? I
>> don't want to answer "NO" to the questio
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Neal Murphy wrote:
> On Saturday, October 13, 2012 12:40:40 AM Wally Lepore wrote:
>> Hi Debain Users,
>>
>> I'm at the final stages of Installing NOT Ubuntu but Debian 'Squeeze'
>> on my dual-boot system. Windows is installed on the 1st hard drive
>> (/dev/sda) a
Hi Lisi, Brian, Lee, Joe, Neal, Dom, and Ralf,
Your support is very much appreciated. I've read all postings and had
trouble keeping up with replying to all my questions that have been so
very supportive.
I would like to take pause for a moment and kindly update you all on
my situation.
I did in
On Sun, 2012-10-14 at 13:39 -0700, Go Linux wrote:
> --- On Sun, 10/14/12, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> > From: Ralf Mardorf
> > Subject: Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives
> > To: "debian-user"
> > Date: Sunday, October 14, 2012, 3:24 PM
&
On Sun, 2012-10-14 at 21:36 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> su
> is enough.
No, it should be
su -
> alt-F2
> gksu gedit
That's good
gksu app
my recommendation
su -c app
isn't good.
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--- On Sun, 10/14/12, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> From: Ralf Mardorf
> Subject: Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives
> To: "debian-user"
> Date: Sunday, October 14, 2012, 3:24 PM
>
> alternatively you can run one command
>
> su -c gedit
>
On Sunday 14 October 2012 16:20:48 Wally Lepore wrote:
> The link starts off by suggesting I log in as user and then enter the
> following initial command.
>
> 1 | su root
> 2 | gedit
>
> I went to Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal (I assume this is
> how to open a terminal) and w
Don't run a X session as root, this is a security risk.
Yes, using a terminal emulation is correct, but
> 1 | su root
> 2 | gedit
isn't ok.
You can, but you don't need to add "root", but if you'll launch GUI
stuff like Gedit, you often must use "su -".
So correct is
su -
gedit
usually in mai
> Brian wrote: on Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:36 AM
>> Wally wrote: on Sat 13 Oct 2012 at 18:49:14 -0400
>> I can still boot either OS (win2k or Debian) simply by changing the
>> boot order in BIOS. Not a big deal. Sure beats swapping drives in and
>> out of the computer. :)
> Login as root and run the
Wally Lepore writes:
> I just realized something important. When I set my Debian drive (sdb)
> for partitioning, I used the 'Manual' setup and chose Logical Volume
> Manager (LVM) non-encryption method.
Do you really need LVM?
> Is this 'Review Partition Layout' screen (displayed for review bef
On 14/10/12 10:36, Brian wrote:
On Sat 13 Oct 2012 at 18:49:14 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
Debian Squeeze installed successfully !
The dual-boot did not work but I can boot into either Win2k or Debian
simply by changing the boot order in the BIOS (hdd-0 or hdd-1). When
I set Debian (hdd-1) as
On Sat 13 Oct 2012 at 18:49:14 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
> Debian Squeeze installed successfully !
>
> The dual-boot did not work but I can boot into either Win2k or Debian
> simply by changing the boot order in the BIOS (hdd-0 or hdd-1). When
> I set Debian (hdd-1) as 1st boot device I do rec
On Sunday 14 October 2012 00:41:46 Wally Lepore wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Brian wrote:
> ***SUCCESS
> ***SUCCESS
> Debian Squeeze installed successfully !
\0/ :-))
> The dual-boot did not work but I can boot into either Win2k or Debian
> simply by changin
On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:49:14 -0400
Wally Lepore wrote:
>
> I can still boot either OS (win2k or Debian) simply by changing the
> boot order in BIOS. Not a big deal. Sure beats swapping drives in and
> out of the computer. :)
>
Editing Win 2000 boot.ini:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/311578
Wally Lepore wrote:
Hi Debain Users,
I'm at the final stages of Installing NOT Ubuntu but Debian 'Squeeze'
on my dual-boot system. Windows is installed on the 1st hard drive
(/dev/sda) and Debian will be installed on the 2nd hard drive
(/dev/sdb).
The installer is asking me where I want Grub i
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Brian wrote:
>
> We await your announcement of 'success'.
>
> P.S. It is (hd1,1). You really do not want to do put GRUB there. It is
> not the same as /dev/sdb. Honest.
***SUCCESS
***SUCCESS
Debian Squeeze installed successfully !
The du
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Brian wrote:
>
> We await your announcement of 'success'.
>
> P.S. It is (hd1,1). You really do not want to do put GRUB there. It is
> not the same as /dev/sdb. Honest.
***SUCCESS
***SUCCESS
Debian Squeeze installed successfully !
The du
On Sat 13 Oct 2012 at 14:28:42 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
> In my case, if I tell the Debian installer to place the GRUB
> boot-loader into (hdd1,1) or /dev/sdb, will it place the GRUB
> boot-loader in the '/' (root partition) due to the fact that its
> listed FIRST in the 'Review Partition L
Wally wrote: (on Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 12:15 PM)
> I only have one shot at getting this correct. My 2nd hard drive (that
> contains Debian) is installed on /dev/sdb and the first partition on
> that drive is /boot .
I just realized something important. When I set my Debian drive (sdb)
for partition
On Sat 13 Oct 2012 at 12:15:25 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
> I only have one shot to get this right or else I have to scrub the
> install and start over.
Please, no! No more installing from you. We are exhausted. :)
> Here is what the new screen is asking:
>
> * BEGI
Wally wrote: (On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 12:15 PM)
> Should I simply type hd1,1 OR /dev/sdb in the above box and
> that should install GRUB to the first /boot partition on the 2nd
> drive?
To clarify, should I include the parenthesis ( ) as in (hd1,1) and
NOT hd1,1 ?
Thank you
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On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Brian wrote:
> On Sat 13 Oct 2012 at 00:40:40 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
>
>> If I choose NO to the installer's question as to placing GRUB in the
>> MBR of the 1st drive. What are my choices as to where to install it? I
>> don't want to answer "NO" to the question
On Sat 13 Oct 2012 at 00:40:40 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
> If I choose NO to the installer's question as to placing GRUB in the
> MBR of the 1st drive. What are my choices as to where to install it? I
> don't want to answer "NO" to the question only to advance the
> installer to a dead end. I hav
On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 00:40:40 -0400
Wally Lepore wrote:
>
> If I choose NO to the installer's question as to placing GRUB in the
> MBR of the 1st drive. What are my choices as to where to install it? I
> don't want to answer "NO" to the question only to advance the
> installer to a dead end. I ha
On Saturday, October 13, 2012 12:40:40 AM Wally Lepore wrote:
> Hi Debain Users,
>
> I'm at the final stages of Installing NOT Ubuntu but Debian 'Squeeze'
> on my dual-boot system. Windows is installed on the 1st hard drive
> (/dev/sda) and Debian will be installed on the 2nd hard drive
> (/dev/s
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