On 12/14/2010 08:21 AM, Claudius Hubig wrote:
godo wrote:
Strange, in Opera 10.63 I get the full URL in the address bar; and, if I
hover the mouse pointer over the link, I also get the full URL in the
status bar at the bottom of the screen.
Is there a change in Opera 11?
Yes, I have 11.0
godo wrote:
>
>> Strange, in Opera 10.63 I get the full URL in the address bar; and, if I
>> hover the mouse pointer over the link, I also get the full URL in the
>> status bar at the bottom of the screen.
>>
>> Is there a change in Opera 11?
>>
>>
>Yes, I have 11.0 beta:
>Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i
On 12/13/2010 11:34 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On 12/13/2010 03:46 PM, godo wrote:
Opera is ok except one future I really don't like and it will be in
Firefox4 also.
When I open goole.com, type debian and go to page 10 I will not see in
URL feeld
"http://www.google.hr/search?q=debian&hl=hr&prmd=
On 12/13/2010 03:46 PM, godo wrote:
> Opera is ok except one future I really don't like and it will be in
> Firefox4 also.
> When I open goole.com, type debian and go to page 10 I will not see in
> URL feeld
> "http://www.google.hr/search?q=debian&hl=hr&prmd=ivl&ei=MYQGTbmtD4iYOuGc6aYB&start=90&sa=
Strange, in Opera 10.63 I get the full URL in the address bar; and, if I
hover the mouse pointer over the link, I also get the full URL in the
status bar at the bottom of the screen.
Is there a change in Opera 11?
Yes, I have 11.0 beta:
Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) Presto/2.7.39 Versi
On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:46 +0100, godo wrote:
> Opera is ok except one future I really don't like and it will be in
> Firefox4 also.
> When I open goole.com, type debian and go to page 10 I will not see in
> URL feeld
> "http://www.google.hr/search?q=debian&hl=hr&prmd=ivl&ei=MYQGTbmtD4iYOuGc6a
Linux Desktop Enviroments need to stop trying to compete to impress
microsoft users and N00b's and stick to what Linux is all about,
clean, efficient, FAST! If people really feel they NEED desktop
widgets either make it add on software or make a third party desktop
environment based off the main
what about Opera.. just asking :)
Opera is ok except one future I really don't like and it will be in
Firefox4 also.
When I open goole.com, type debian and go to page 10 I will not see in
URL feeld
"http://www.google.hr/search?q=debian&hl=hr&prmd=ivl&ei=MYQGTbmtD4iYOuGc6aYB&start=90&sa=N";
On 12/08/2010 04:29 PM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> Opera is slower when loading the same tabs set, especially heavy flash
> content. On the good side it showed the best behaviour when it comes to
> java applet test (a secure bank login applet), but consumed crazy
> amounts of memory in this
08/12/2010 14:46, Paul Cartwright wrote:
>> On 12/08/2010 03:44 AM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
>> Overall chromium has a small edge, but not very noticeable here. I use
>> both happily anyway !
>>
> what about Opera.. just asking :)
>
>
Well, what about it then ? ;-)
I don't use Opera sinc
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On 12/08/2010 03:44 AM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
>> Overall chromium has a small edge, but not very noticeable here. I use
>> both happily anyway !
>>
> what about Opera.. just asking :)
>
>
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On 12/08/2010 03:44 AM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> Overall chromium has a small edge, but not very noticeable here. I use
> both happily anyway !
>
what about Opera.. just asking :)
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08/12/2010 06:46, Miles Bader wrote:
> Camaleón writes:
>> Mozilla products are memory/CPU hogs, yes. I hope newer versions can
>> correct that.
>
> I find that chromium actually seems to use _more_ memory for a given
> amount of content.
>
> However with chromium it's really easy to reduce the
Camaleón writes:
> Mozilla products are memory/CPU hogs, yes. I hope newer versions can
> correct that.
I find that chromium actually seems to use _more_ memory for a given
amount of content.
However with chromium it's really easy to reduce the usage by closing
tabs; with FF (etc) that doesn't
On 2010-11-23, Klistvud wrote:
> Dne, 23. 11. 2010 15:00:59 je Celejar napisal(a):
>
>> I use Privoxy - not as user friendly as the plugins, but it will work
>> across all your browsers, is much more powerful (IIUC), and has no
>> risk
>> of increasing browser bloat or instability, or becoming i
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:59:18 -0800
Kelly Clowers wrote:
...
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 18:02, Celejar wrote:
...
> > My policy, for stability and privacy, is to run two instances of FF.
> > My main one has no scripting allowed (NoScript with basically no
> > exceptions - perhaps I should just
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:22:49 +0100
Klistvud wrote:
> Dne, 23. 11. 2010 15:00:59 je Celejar napisal(a):
>
> > I use Privoxy - not as user friendly as the plugins, but it will work
> > across all your browsers, is much more powerful (IIUC), and has no
> > risk
> > of increasing browser bloat or
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 14:55, wrote:
>
> Example, Lxde doesn't have the bloat of KDE4, but is still running ontop
> of the same core enviroment of the KDE system native to the OS, (e.g.
> Lxde in squeeze has the same underlying and crappy menu and
> configuration systems at KDE4, trying to tweek
Dne, 23. 11. 2010 15:00:59 je Celejar napisal(a):
I use Privoxy - not as user friendly as the plugins, but it will work
across all your browsers, is much more powerful (IIUC), and has no
risk
of increasing browser bloat or instability, or becoming incompatible
with future browser versions.
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:29:31 +0800
Jason Heeris wrote:
> On 23 November 2010 19:13, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > So, how effective are ABP and Flashblock? I read once that the Chrome ABP
> > doesn't actually *block* ads from loading but simply prevents them from
> > being displayed.
>
> That was the
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 04:54:49 -0600
Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 11/21/2010 08:02 PM, Celejar wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> > My policy, for stability and privacy, is to run two instances of FF.
>
> Using this?
> $ iceweasel -no-remote -P secondprofilename
Exactly (with an & at the end ;)).
>From my .bashrc
On 2010-11-18 21:37:32 -0800, Dan Serban wrote:
> I now have chromium and claws at my beck and call. Man.. are they
> ever fast.
But Chromium (actually WebKit) is broken. For instance, it can't parse
http://www.vinc17.net/
I ported the upstream patch to Debian at the end of August[*], but
the
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 05:13:53 -0600
Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 11/18/2010 11:37 PM, Dan Serban wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> > I now have chromium and claws at my beck and call. Man.. are they
> > ever fast.
> >
>
> So, how effective are ABP and Flashblock? I read once that the
> Chrome ABP doesn't actua
On 11/23/2010 06:13 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Also, anyone with experience with these plugins (which *I* consider
> essential, though some may find heresy)?
>
> acroread
> Java
> MozPlugger
> OOo
> Flash 10.0r45
> Silverlight 3.0.4x
> VLC
are you talking about Firefox or Chromium?
On 23 November 2010 19:13, Ron Johnson wrote:
> So, how effective are ABP and Flashblock? I read once that the Chrome ABP
> doesn't actually *block* ads from loading but simply prevents them from
> being displayed.
That was the case some time ago, but according to the plugin site[1]
New in
On 11/18/2010 11:37 PM, Dan Serban wrote:
[snip]
I now have chromium and claws at my beck and call. Man.. are they
ever fast.
So, how effective are ABP and Flashblock? I read once that the
Chrome ABP doesn't actually *block* ads from loading but simply
prevents them from being displayed.
On 11/21/2010 08:02 PM, Celejar wrote:
[snip]
My policy, for stability and privacy, is to run two instances of FF.
Using this?
$ iceweasel -no-remote -P secondprofilename
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 23:21:23 + (UTC)
Camaleón wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:13:24 -0500, Celejar wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:03:44 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote:
> >
> >> Mozilla products are memory/CPU hogs, yes. I hope newer versions can
> >> correct that.
> >
> > I often wonder a
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:09:05 -0600
"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote:
> In <20101120185835.2915d9d3.cele...@gmail.com>, Celejar wrote:
> >On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:26:43 -0600
> >"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote:
> >> Much of the memory usage can be blamed on aggressive per-tab caching of
> >> webpages
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 00:35:37 +
Nuno Magalhães wrote:
...
> I use Iceweasel with ADP and NoScript and that's it. Sometimes i get
> in trouble with flash-sites and sometimes my cpu will spike 'cos of
> some tab, but i think it's the most all-round browser i have. I'll use
> 30 tabs max, and do
Below...
> If people really feel they NEED desktop
> widgets either make it add on software or make a third party desktop
> environment based off the main environment. The way it is now KDE and
> Gnome, the two biggest are competing for 'most bloat award' and the
> sleek fast environments like lxd
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 20:20:39 +
teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
> ...
> Linux Desktop Enviroments need to stop trying to compete to impress
> microsoft users and N00b's and stick to what Linux is all about,
> clean, efficient, FAST!
Why? Linux can (and does) do both... and quite well.
> I
On Du, 21 nov 10, 12:19:56, Matthias Andersson wrote:
> On 11/21/2010 09:56 AM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
> > claws-mail is fantastic, I would like to encourage others to give it a
> > try. Fast and powerful.
>
> I have installed claws-mail to try it out - now there's the question
> regarding exp
o all the real customization of the past is just plain gone...
STOP LETTING N00b's DEFINE OUR OS!
Okay, I'm done...
-Original Message-
From: Nuno Magalhães
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 18:42:01
To: debian-user
Subject: Re: Frustration made me do it.
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 1
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 11:56:49PM -0800, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
>
> claws-mail is fantastic, I would like to encourage others to give it a
> try. Fast and powerful.
>
>
> Brian
Since this thread has started I decided to give claws a go. From what I've
messed with so far it seems nice. I wo
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:45, Alan Chandler wrote:
>> My machine
>> is an older desktop with only 1 Gb of RAM
Have big applications like office suites, internet browsers and the
like added so many more features that a "mere" 1GB of RAM doesn't
suffice?! Isn't Web2.0's structure mostly text-based
2010/11/20 Nuno Magalhães :
>
>I've read nice stuff about dillo (which rendering engine?),
>but haven't tried it.
It uses it's own rendering engine, which is very limited
compared to the big 4 (modern Gecko, Webkit, Presto
and Trident).
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On 21/11/10 10:19, Matthias Andersson wrote:
On 11/21/2010 09:56 AM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
claws-mail is fantastic, I would like to encourage others to give it a
try. Fast and powerful.
I have installed claws-mail to try it out - now there's the question
regarding exporting the mail from
On 11/21/2010 09:56 AM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
> claws-mail is fantastic, I would like to encourage others to give it a
> try. Fast and powerful.
I have installed claws-mail to try it out - now there's the question
regarding exporting the mail from Thunderbird3 to claws. I've googled
about it
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:37:32 -0800
Dan Serban wrote:
> I now have chromium and claws at my beck and call. Man.. are they
> ever fast.
I assume you are referring to claws-mail ?
claws-mail is fantastic, I would like to encourage others to give it a
try. Fast and powerful.
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From: Sthu Deus
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:50:11
To:
Subject: Re: Frustration made me do it.
Dan Serban wrote:
> > I will spare you the minute details for my decision, but I assume
> > most of you experience the same frustrations I do. The increasing
>
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 00:09, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
wrote:
> There are other WebKit-based browsers besides Chromium out there and there are
> other Gecko-based browsers besides FireFox / IceWeasel out there. By
> experimenting you may find one that is less bad for you than FireFox.
Kazehakase
> > >I often wonder about this; IIRC, FF used to advertise itself as
> > >"lightweight". Does it still do that? Was it ever accurate?
> >
> > It was lighter that the Mozilla suite that it "replaced". It was similar
> > technology, but just a browser. It lacked the HTML editing abilities, the
In <20101120185835.2915d9d3.cele...@gmail.com>, Celejar wrote:
>On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:26:43 -0600
>"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote:
>> Much of the memory usage can be blamed on aggressive per-tab caching of
>> webpages and/or extensions or plugins. Still, I find FF to cause me more
>> problems th
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:26:43 -0600
"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote:
> In <20101119161324.2ed2f1a8.cele...@gmail.com>, Celejar wrote:
> >On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:03:44 + (UTC)
> >Camaleón wrote:
> >> On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:37:32 -0800, Dan Serban wrote:
> >> > After years of running the mozilla
Dan Serban wrote:
> > I will spare you the minute details for my decision, but I assume
> > most of you experience the same frustrations I do. The increasing
> > bloat, the never enough memory (16gb real, 32gb swap) being happily
> > claimed by a single tab and xul-runner eating it all.
I use FF
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 00:45, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> unfortunately s/wicd/network-manager/ :(
yuck
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On Vi, 19 nov 10, 22:21:59, Robert Blair Mason Jr. wrote:
> > >
> > I thought I was alone in this, I've also ditched Iceweasel. I've
> > found claws-mail to be just fine, and have recently dropped Gnome and
> > replaced it with xfce. Gnome has grown fat and sluggish
>
> sed s/xfce/lxde/
+1, and
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:04, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Vi, 19 nov 10, 05:49:13, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>>
>> Haven't switched to IMAP yet, still on Gmail at this point.
>
> And what's the problem? I use Gmail via IMAP just fine.
I use Gmail for the UI and the Search. Otherwise I would just run
P
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:20:21 -0500
john wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:26:52 +
> Michal wrote:
>
> > On 19/11/10 05:37, Dan Serban wrote:
> > > After years of running the mozilla suite (remember when you couldn't
> > > refresh a POST document in mozilla 0.6?) and begrudgingly moving to
> -
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:20:21 -0500 john shared
this with us all:
>I thought I was alone in this, I've also ditched Iceweasel. I've
>found claws-mail to be just fine,
I also thought this, have dumped Iceweasel, finally got fed up, and
have used claws-mail for quite a long time and like it very mu
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:26:52 +
Michal wrote:
> On 19/11/10 05:37, Dan Serban wrote:
> > After years of running the mozilla suite (remember when you couldn't
> > refresh a POST document in mozilla 0.6?) and begrudgingly moving to
--snipp> >
> > Just thought I'd make some noise and
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:46:11 +0200
Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Jo, 18 nov 10, 21:37:32, Dan Serban wrote:
> >
> > I now have chromium and claws at my beck and call. Man.. are they
> > ever fast.
>
> While I like claws mail, last time I looked at it it was lacking IMAP
> IDLE support.
It does
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:13:24 -0500, Celejar wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:03:44 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote:
>
>> Mozilla products are memory/CPU hogs, yes. I hope newer versions can
>> correct that.
>
> I often wonder about this; IIRC, FF used to advertise itself as
> "lightweight". Does it s
On 11/19/2010 04:23 PM, Petrus Validus wrote:
Mozilla products are memory/CPU hogs, yes. I hope newer versions can
correct that.
I often wonder about this; IIRC, FF used to advertise itself as
"lightweight". Does it still do that? Was it ever accurate?
Maybe at version 1.0...but it just s
In <20101119161324.2ed2f1a8.cele...@gmail.com>, Celejar wrote:
>On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:03:44 + (UTC)
>Camaleón wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:37:32 -0800, Dan Serban wrote:
>> > After years of running the mozilla suite (remember when you couldn't
>> > refresh a POST document in mozilla 0.6?)
> > Mozilla products are memory/CPU hogs, yes. I hope newer versions can
> > correct that.
>
> I often wonder about this; IIRC, FF used to advertise itself as
> "lightweight". Does it still do that? Was it ever accurate?
Maybe at version 1.0...but it just seems to become more and more bloated
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:03:44 + (UTC)
Camaleón wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:37:32 -0800, Dan Serban wrote:
>
> > After years of running the mozilla suite (remember when you couldn't
> > refresh a POST document in mozilla 0.6?) and begrudgingly moving to
> > Firefox, then falling in love wi
On Vi, 19 nov 10, 05:49:13, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>
> Haven't switched to IMAP yet, still on Gmail at this point.
And what's the problem? I use Gmail via IMAP just fine.
Regards,
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On Fri, November 19, 2010 11:26 am, Michal wrote:
> Funnily, on the Windows 7 boxes I have I chucked Firefox for IE9 64bit
> Betas. The speed increase I get is MASSIVE. Missing some addon's which
> annoys me, but it's better then the constant problems I see with Firefox
You should be comparing t
On 19/11/10 05:37, Dan Serban wrote:
After years of running the mozilla suite (remember when you couldn't
refresh a POST document in mozilla 0.6?) and begrudgingly moving to
Firefox, then falling in love with iceweasel. Today, sad as it is,
is when I feel that I must announce that I decided to:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:31:29 -0500, Carl Fink wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 08:03:44AM +, Camale?n wrote:
>
>> I have to stick with Icedove because is one of the two MUAs I know that
>> can handle html e-mails in Linux. The second is Evolution, but I think
>> is even slower than Icedove.
>
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 03:26, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
wrote:
> On 19 Nov 2010, Dan Serban wrote:
>>
>> Just thought I'd make some noise and share, I feel so free. \o/
>
> Thanks for the heads up but you can, you know, just delete packages without
> having to inform anyone about it.
Where's the f
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 21:37, Dan Serban wrote:
> After years of running the mozilla suite (remember when you couldn't
> refresh a POST document in mozilla 0.6?) and begrudgingly moving to
> Firefox, then falling in love with iceweasel. Today, sad as it is,
> is when I feel that I must announce
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 08:03:44AM +, Camale?n wrote:
> I have to stick with Icedove because is one of the two MUAs I know that
> can handle html e-mails in Linux. The second is Evolution, but I think is
> even slower than Icedove.
Mutt works great.
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 11:25:11 + (UTC)
Camaleón wrote:
> Yep, but that only covers the third part of my "perverse"
> needings }:-)
We all have our guilty pleasures! ;)
> Besides, I still need forwarding "inline".
>
> Greetings,
>
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On 11/19/2010 03:03 AM, Camaleón wrote:
> Icedove 3.x has an option to tell do not index e-mails. Not sure how it
> goes because I'm still with 2.x branch.
edit-preferences-Advanced- uncheck Enable Global Search and indexer
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On Sex, 19 Nov 2010, Dan Serban wrote:
After years of running the mozilla suite (remember when you couldn't
refresh a POST document in mozilla 0.6?) and begrudgingly moving to
Firefox, then falling in love with iceweasel. Today, sad as it is,
is when I feel that I must announce that I decided to
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:10:53 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Vi, 19 nov 10, 11:05:53, Camaleón wrote:
>>
>> Damn! Yes, I need sending/resending/forwarding those fancy e-mails that
>> annoy some people >:-)
>
> Forwarding as attachment might work...
Yep, but that only covers the third part of
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:10:53 +0200
Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Vi, 19 nov 10, 11:05:53, Camaleón wrote:
> >
> > Damn! Yes, I need sending/resending/forwarding those fancy e-mails
> > that annoy some people >:-)
>
> Forwarding as attachment might work...
As far as I know, forwarding works fine,
On Vi, 19 nov 10, 11:05:53, Camaleón wrote:
>
> Damn! Yes, I need sending/resending/forwarding those fancy e-mails that
> annoy some people >:-)
Forwarding as attachment might work...
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:45:29 +, Angus Hedger wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:27:01 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote:
>
>> > And with the right plugins, from the repo, it does HTML email, and
>> > RSS like a champion. (and pgp of cause)
>>
>> Can you expand that information?
>
> It views well, but
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:27:01 + (UTC)
Camaleón wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:18:43 +, Angus Hedger wrote:
>
> > Claw mail is pretty dam fast, I havent bothered to learn the search
> > function very well yet, but meh.
> >
> > And with the right plugins, from the repo, it does HTML email
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:18:43 +, Angus Hedger wrote:
> Claw mail is pretty dam fast, I havent bothered to learn the search
> function very well yet, but meh.
>
> And with the right plugins, from the repo, it does HTML email, and RSS
> like a champion. (and pgp of cause)
Can you expand that in
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:37:32 -0800
Dan Serban wrote:
> After years of running the mozilla suite (remember when you couldn't
> refresh a POST document in mozilla 0.6?) and begrudgingly moving to
> Firefox, then falling in love with iceweasel. Today, sad as it is,
> is when I feel that I must anno
Dne, 19. 11. 2010 06:37:32 je Dan Serban napisal(a):
Icedove likes to make my computer behave like a 386 (downloading
and indexing millions of IMAP messages..
Erm ... isn't that what computing is all about? I mean, if you look
closer, some programmers think that their mission won't be accomp
On Jo, 18 nov 10, 21:37:32, Dan Serban wrote:
>
> I now have chromium and claws at my beck and call. Man.. are they
> ever fast.
While I like claws mail, last time I looked at it it was lacking IMAP
IDLE support.
I would be interested to switch away from iceweasel if there was
something like
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:37:32 -0800, Dan Serban wrote:
> After years of running the mozilla suite (remember when you couldn't
> refresh a POST document in mozilla 0.6?) and begrudgingly moving to
> Firefox, then falling in love with iceweasel. Today, sad as it is, is
> when I feel that I must anno
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