Re: FQDN via DHCP, then used in exim4

2013-05-19 Thread Klaus Doering
Thanks All, I fully accept that exim is as it is, and being an (instrumentation-)developer myself it's easy to see how we got here. As stated in my very first post, I did make it all work by using "proper" ;-) entries in /etc/hosts, hostname and mailname. This being my first email server instal

Re: FQDN via DHCP, then used in exim4

2013-05-19 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 5/19/2013 3:45 AM, Klaus Doering wrote: > Stan, > > Thank you for taking the time to explain your perspective. Maybe it is > the tone of your teachings that tickle me, maybe it's just that I'm no > big fan of sweeping statements a la "Don't do it, ever". As I described Many folks with long ex

Re: FQDN via DHCP, then used in exim4

2013-05-19 Thread Arun Khan
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Klaus Doering wrote: > > On 19/05/13 12:48, Arun Khan wrote: >> >> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Klaus Doering >> wrote: >>> >>> I agree that in a different setting, where there are many users, >>> hundreds of emails per minute and other mission-critical stuff

Re: FQDN via DHCP, then used in exim4

2013-05-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 19 mai 13, 13:51:01, Klaus Doering wrote: > > This email server is not directly connected to the 'net, it sits behind > a router. Thus, there is one external IP for which I've registered an "A" > record and an "MX" record on a public DNS server, and then there is an > internal IP server on

Re: FQDN via DHCP, then used in exim4

2013-05-19 Thread Klaus Doering
On 19/05/13 12:48, Arun Khan wrote: On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Klaus Doering wrote: I agree that in a different setting, where there are many users, hundreds of emails per minute and other mission-critical stuff is going on, one needs to design the infrastructure a lot more carefully.

Re: FQDN via DHCP, then used in exim4

2013-05-19 Thread Arun Khan
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Klaus Doering wrote: > > I agree that in a different setting, where there are many users, > hundreds of emails per minute and other mission-critical stuff is going > on, one needs to design the infrastructure a lot more carefully. > As a thumb rule, any system pro

Re: FQDN via DHCP, then used in exim4

2013-05-19 Thread Klaus Doering
Stan, Thank you for taking the time to explain your perspective. Maybe it is the tone of your teachings that tickle me, maybe it's just that I'm no big fan of sweeping statements a la "Don't do it, ever". As I described in my initial post, this thread concerns a small domestic setting. There is

Re: FQDN via DHCP, then used in exim4

2013-05-17 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 5/16/2013 2:17 PM, Klaus Doering wrote: > Stan, Thank you for the teaching. Indeed, there are many books I should > have read already, alas, there are a great many subjects about which > important books are written. So, I go along and learn when things don't > work as expected. Like now. > > Th

Re: FQDN via DHCP, then used in exim4

2013-05-16 Thread Klaus Doering
Joe, Yes, I've set the "A" and the "MX" record to the same FQDN, and that is also the HELO string. (at least now that I adjusted the entry in the hosts file.) Thanks, Klaus On 16/05/13 19:06, Joe wrote: Apart from any other issue, please note that the HELO string provided by your mailserver re

Re: FQDN via DHCP, then used in exim4

2013-05-16 Thread Klaus Doering
Stan, Thank you for the teaching. Indeed, there are many books I should have read already, alas, there are a great many subjects about which important books are written. So, I go along and learn when things don't work as expected. Like now. The story about using DHCP to assign fixed addresses doe

Re: FQDN via DHCP, then used in exim4

2013-05-16 Thread Joe
On Thu, 16 May 2013 09:02:57 +0100 Klaus Doering wrote: > > The RaspPi (running Raspbian, a version of Wheezy for the ARMHF > architecture) also acts as a mail server, talking > SMTP to the wider world using exim4. After I got an error message > from some strict server telling me > > 504 5.

Re: FQDN via DHCP, then used in exim4

2013-05-16 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 5/16/2013 3:02 AM, Klaus Doering wrote: ... > Sorry long post. Can anybody shine light on this, and maybe even know > how to make use of the DHCP provided > domain name in exim? First, using a DHCP server, in a consumer broadband router or otherwise, to assign -sticky static- addresses and hos

Re: FQDN vs. domain in /etc/hosts

2009-01-29 Thread Stefan Schmidt
So both addresses are unambiguous. For what reason now would I need a FQDN? Why wouldn't a domain name suffice? Typically, I see it that a domain refers to an entity, whereas a FQDN refers to a host or service within that entity. For your purposes the following sdhould be sufficient:

Re: FQDN vs. domain in /etc/hosts

2009-01-10 Thread mouss
Chris Davies a écrit : > Stefan Schmidt wrote: >> in my understanding the /etc/hosts file should contain an entry with the >> FQDN of the host. > >> 123.123.123.123 hostname.domain.tld hostname > > Yes, that's right. > > >> I would for simplicity prefer to use a domain name instead of a FQDN.

Re: FQDN vs. domain in /etc/hosts

2009-01-06 Thread James Youngman
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Stefan Schmidt wrote: > Hello, > > in my understanding the /etc/hosts file should contain an entry with the > FQDN of the host. > > 123.123.123.123 hostname.domain.tld hostname > > I would for simplicity prefer to use a domain name instead of a FQDN. > > 123.123.123

Re: FQDN vs. domain in /etc/hosts

2009-01-05 Thread Chris Davies
Stefan Schmidt wrote: > in my understanding the /etc/hosts file should contain an entry with the > FQDN of the host. > 123.123.123.123 hostname.domain.tld hostname Yes, that's right. > I would for simplicity prefer to use a domain name instead of a FQDN. > 123.123.123.123 domain.tld hostname

Re: FQDN vs. domain in /etc/hosts

2009-01-04 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Thanks for your feedback! So both addresses are unambiguous. For what reason now would I need a FQDN? Why wouldn't a domain name suffice? What happens when you want/need to add another machine ? I use the domain solely for private purposes and I will probably never need more than two or thre

Re: FQDN vs. domain in /etc/hosts

2009-01-04 Thread Richard A Nelson
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009, Stefan Schmidt wrote: Hello, Howdy in my understanding the /etc/hosts file should contain an entry with the FQDN of the host. 123.123.123.123 hostname.domain.tld hostname Yes, that is the proper format and order I would for simplicity prefer to use a domain name ins

Re: FQDN

2006-10-25 Thread George Borisov
Andrew Critchlow wrote: > Hi, I have not yet adjusted /etc/hosts ? Do I need to do this? What is > its purpose and why cant it bypass this to use resolv.conf? You need to edit the /etc/hosts file to set the name and domain for 127.0.0.1. You can not get these from a DNS server and this is the inf

Re: FQDN

2006-10-24 Thread Bob McGowan
Andrew Critchlow wrote: Hi, I have not yet adjusted /etc/hosts ? Do I need to do this? What is its purpose and why cant it bypass this to use resolv.conf? I have tried restarting etc many thanks Andrew, I've not followed the discussion up to this point. I apologize if this does

RE: FQDN

2006-10-20 Thread Andrew Critchlow
Hi, I have not yet adjusted /etc/hosts ? Do I need to do this? What is its purpose and why cant it bypass this to use resolv.conf?       I have tried restarting etc         many thanks

RE: FQDN name

2006-10-20 Thread David Christensen
Andrew Critchlow wrote: > I am trying to set the FQDN domain of my debian box, I have read that > to set the dns name in resolv.conf use: ... > It still shows up as: localdomain Have you also adjusted /etc/hostname and/or /etc/hosts? Have you tried restarting networking and/or rebooting? HTH,

Re: fqdn no more

2005-10-17 Thread Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, After I finished configuring apache2, I run /etc/init.d/apache2 restart and I got the following: "Forcing reload of webserver: Apache2 apache2: could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName" I have my webserver's ip

Re: FQDN hostname

2002-04-04 Thread Richard Cobbe
Lo, on Thursday, April 4, Alan Poulton did write: > I'm slowly isolating my problems with sendmail and variants. It seems > they're asking me for my Fully Qualified Domain Name. > > I've given the name of my box: hotstuff > > My ISP is telus.net, but they give me: bc.hsia.telus.net .. so I know

Re: FQDN hostname

2002-04-04 Thread Crispin Wellington
On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 08:09, Alan Poulton wrote: > I'm slowly isolating my problems with sendmail and variants. It seems > they're asking me for my Fully Qualified Domain Name. > > I've given the name of my box: hotstuff > > My ISP is telus.net, but they give me: bc.hsia.telus.net .. so I know my

Re: FQDN foobar

2002-03-01 Thread dman
On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 12:20:50PM +0100, Robert Waldner wrote: | | Hi! | | I have a problem with the way gethostname() and getdomainname (don't) | work on Debian. | | gethostname() returns the hostname, not qualified. It (or a similarly named function, I don't remember exactly) returns the

Re: FQDN?

2002-02-25 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Gary Turner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020225 18:25]: > For whatever reason, I just can't wrap my mind around this for my setup. > > What I have is: > > Netgear gateway/router/firewall which also handles chat with ISP to > maintain connection negotiate dynamic IP (bessie) > > Workstations are etta,

Re: (fqdn) hostname resolution when using DHCP

1999-12-31 Thread John Hasler
Phil Brutsche writes: > Samba won't necessarily work if you don't have the hostname pointing to > the IP in /etc/hosts. Are you saying that samba will may not work if you have both lines, like this? 127.0.0.1 hasler.dhh hasler localhost 192.168.1.1 hasler.dhh h

Re: (fqdn) hostname resolution when using DHCP

1999-12-31 Thread aphro
On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, Salman Ahmed wrote: ssahme >Could this be a case of the DHCP server treating Windows clients ssahme >differently than non-Windows clients ? Majority of the DHCP clients at ssahme >our place are Windoze boxes. yes, if they are pointed at different DNS then anything is possible

Re: (fqdn) hostname resolution when using DHCP

1999-12-31 Thread Phil Brutsche
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... > Salman Ahmed writes: > > What should I add to this file so I can ping from the machine itself by > > giving its fqdn hostname ? > > 127.0.0.1 matrix. matrix localhost. > > With this line any process on the machine can reach the machine

Re: (fqdn) hostname resolution when using DHCP

1999-12-31 Thread John Hasler
Salman Ahmed writes: > But the second line in /etc/hosts will have to be updated/modified > whenever the DHCP lease for that IP address runs out. If you have a proper localhost line in /etc/hosts you don't actually need the IP of your interface in there at all. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J

Re: (fqdn) hostname resolution when using DHCP

1999-12-31 Thread John Hasler
Salman Ahmed writes: > What should I add to this file so I can ping from the machine itself by > giving its fqdn hostname ? 127.0.0.1 matrix. matrix localhost. With this line any process on the machine can reach the machine itself via the fqdn, the hostname, or just 'localhost'. Phil Brutsche wr

Re: (fqdn) hostname resolution when using DHCP

1999-12-31 Thread aphro
On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Salman Ahmed wrote: ssahme > ssahme >Whenever I try to ping this machine (from itself) by giving the ssahme >fqdn hostname, I get an error message like: ssahme > ssahme > unknown host matrix.domain.com ssahme > ssahme >nslookup on that fqdn hostname gives an error message sayi

Re: (fqdn) hostname resolution when using DHCP

1999-12-31 Thread hypnos
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Re: (fqdn) hostname resolution when using DHCP

1999-12-31 Thread Phil Brutsche
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... [...] > Some more questions: I seem to be getting the same IP address through > DHCP. That's the way it works - each time you reboot you get the same IP until the lease time runs out. > After the DNS config update, I can ping this machin

Re: (fqdn) hostname resolution when using DHCP

1999-12-31 Thread aphro
On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Salman Ahmed wrote: ssahme >I got one of the network admins to update their DNS config so that the ssahme >hostname of the machine is mapped to the machine's ethernet address. ok ssahme >Some more questions: I seem to be getting the same IP address through ssahme >DHCP. Afte

Re: (fqdn) hostname resolution when using DHCP

1999-12-30 Thread aphro
On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, Salman Ahmed wrote: ssahme >how this work ? Will this approach require the network sysadmins to ssahme >change their (internal) DNS configuration ? Our network admins know of ssahme >only one OS: Windoze, and generally don't know d*** about ssahme >Unix/Linux/*BSD, so I am a l

Re: (fqdn) hostname resolution when using DHCP

1999-12-29 Thread aphro
you could add a domain to a DNS in your local network so that works, or what is probably easier is look for the lmhosts file on the windows box (use find) it may be called lmhosts.sam or some shit, add the ip and the names there, it seems to be window's version of /etc/hosts. you may have to renam