Re: Eliminating upgrade confusion

2005-06-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 06:01:51AM +, s. keeling wrote: > I kinda, sorta, almost, like the idea of forcing users to define their > chosen distribution (potato, woody, sarge, etch) in their > /etc/apt/apt.conf [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls -al /etc/apt/ total 20 drwxr-xr-x3 root root

Re: Eliminating upgrade confusion

2005-06-11 Thread Colin
Colin Ingram wrote: > Colin wrote: >> Nah, I can't buy this argument. When I look to see what entries I can >> put >> in my sources.list file, I actually take a web browser and look at the >> directory it comes from. In the "dists" directory, I can see that >> "testing" and "stable" are links to

Re: Eliminating upgrade confusion

2005-06-11 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 06:01:51AM +, s. keeling wrote: > > I kinda, sorta, almost, like the idea of forcing users to define their > chosen distribution (potato, woody, sarge, etch) in their > /etc/apt/apt.conf > Elsewhere on this list I saw a suggestion that I think is a good, more gentle w

Re: Eliminating upgrade confusion

2005-06-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 03:44:06AM +0200, David Jardine wrote: > On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 08:12:27PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > David Jardine wrote: > > > Somebody who was running stable didn't want woody to be replaced > > > by sarge without his being asked. Somebody running testing didn't > >

Re: Eliminating upgrade confusion

2005-06-10 Thread s. keeling
Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 01:57:56AM +0200, David Jardine wrote: > > The enormous confusion arising from the release of sarge seems > > to have arisen from the use of the words "stable" and "testing". > > I am not a Debian developer. I am a user. But I know e

Re: Eliminating upgrade confusion

2005-06-10 Thread s. keeling
Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > David Jardine wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 08:12:27PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > >>>Somebody who was running stable didn't want woody to be replaced > >>>by sarge without his being asked. Somebody running testing didn't > >>>want to move from sarge to etch autom

Re: Eliminating upgrade confusion

2005-06-10 Thread Colin Ingram
Colin wrote: whole picture. Nah, I can't buy this argument. When I look to see what entries I can put in my sources.list file, I actually take a web browser and look at the directory it comes from. In the "dists" directory, I can see that "testing" and "stable" are links to names like

Re: Eliminating upgrade confusion

2005-06-10 Thread Colin
David Jardine wrote: > On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 08:12:27PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: >>>Somebody who was running stable didn't want woody to be replaced >>>by sarge without his being asked. Somebody running testing didn't >>>want to move from sarge to etch automatically. (Sid seems to be >>>the on

Re: Eliminating upgrade confusion

2005-06-10 Thread Curt Howland
On Friday 10 June 2005 13:37, Guillaume TESSIER was heard to say: > Thanks Curt! You're very welcome. > I guess many users choose sarge testing cause woody was pretty > outdated. Yep. And they were warned, many times in many forums, that when Sarge went "stable" then "testing" would be a nightm

Re: Eliminating upgrade confusion

2005-06-10 Thread Guillaume TESSIER
Curt Howland wrote: Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It is a good way for a lot of people, but maybe not for newbies who think they can create a better way through the exercise of pure rhetoric without benefit of experience. Having been using Debian since 1995, I consider mys

Re: Eliminating upgrade confusion

2005-06-10 Thread Curt Howland
Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is a good way for a lot of people, but maybe not for > newbies who think they can create a better way through the exercise > of pure rhetoric without benefit of experience. Having been using Debian since 1995, I consider myself to have some benefit o

Re: Eliminating upgrade confusion

2005-06-10 Thread Guillaume TESSIER
Guillaume TESSIER wrote: David Jardine wrote: On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 08:12:27PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: David Jardine wrote: The enormous confusion arising from the release of sarge seems to have arisen from the use of the words "stable" and "testing". Not familiar with this enormous c

Re: Eliminating upgrade confusion

2005-06-09 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
David Jardine wrote: The enormous confusion arising from the release of sarge seems to have arisen from the use of the words "stable" and "testing". Somebody who was running stable didn't want woody to be replaced by sarge without his being asked. Somebody running testing didn't want to mov

Re: Eliminating upgrade confusion

2005-06-09 Thread Paul E Condon
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 01:57:56AM +0200, David Jardine wrote: > The enormous confusion arising from the release of sarge seems > to have arisen from the use of the words "stable" and "testing". > > Somebody who was running stable didn't want woody to be replaced > by sarge without his being ask

Re: Eliminating upgrade confusion

2005-06-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday June 9 2005 4:57 pm, David Jardine wrote: > The enormous confusion arising from the release of sarge seems > to have arisen from the use of the words "stable" and "testing". > > Somebody who was running stable didn't want woody to be replaced > by sarge without his being asked. Then "s

Re: Eliminating upgrade confusion

2005-06-09 Thread David Jardine
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 08:12:27PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > David Jardine wrote: > > The enormous confusion arising from the release of sarge seems > > to have arisen from the use of the words "stable" and "testing". > > Not familiar with this enormous confusion. Well, I've seen seen some of y

Re: Eliminating upgrade confusion

2005-06-09 Thread Joey Hess
David Jardine wrote: > The enormous confusion arising from the release of sarge seems > to have arisen from the use of the words "stable" and "testing". Not familiar with this enormous confusion. > Somebody who was running stable didn't want woody to be replaced > by sarge without his being ask

Re: Eliminating upgrade confusion

2005-06-09 Thread Marty
David Jardine wrote: Wouldn't things work more smoothly if "stable" and "testing" were not allowed in /etc/apt/sources.list or anywhere else except as purely informative descriptions? I think you mean the debian version as indicated in /etc/apt/apt.conf. (As somebody else already pointed out