Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-16 Thread David Wright
On Mon 16 May 2022 at 07:12:35 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 10:40:01PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > … both provide the same program, ●which are allegedly identical > > at the commandline but implemented completely differently,● so you … > > I don't think that's cor

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-16 Thread David Wright
On Mon 16 May 2022 at 01:30:56 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2022-05-13 23:31:44 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > Well, I've looked at these pages in the past, but never in any depth > > because pkg resolvconf has been a luxury (originally installed IIRC > > when I was playing with free vpns t

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 10:40:01PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > … both provide the same program, ●which are allegedly identical > at the commandline but implemented completely differently,● so you … I don't think that's correct. They have the same *name*, but they have entirely different invo

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-16 Thread Richmond
David Christensen writes: > On 5/15/22 06:53, Richmond wrote: >> David Christensen writes: >>> On 5/14/22 05:57, Richmond wrote: writes: > On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 10:50:46AM +0100, Richmond wrote: > >> Is there a debian package for this? : >> >> https://aur.archlinux.org/pa

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-15 Thread David Wright
On Fri 13 May 2022 at 20:49:27 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > Is it better now? Or are there still MORE things that should be obvious > and straightforward but are in fact traps set by the Debian developers > to make the lives of their users more difficult? I would certainly have benefited from

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-15 Thread David Christensen
On 5/15/22 06:53, Richmond wrote: David Christensen writes: On 5/14/22 05:57, Richmond wrote: writes: On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 10:50:46AM +0100, Richmond wrote: Is there a debian package for this? : https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xfce-polkit "A simple PolicyKit authentication agent f

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-15 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-05-13 23:31:44 -0500, David Wright wrote: > Well, I've looked at these pages in the past, but never in any depth > because pkg resolvconf has been a luxury (originally installed IIRC > when I was playing with free vpns to download the odd BBC programme). > It always worked with wicd running

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-15 Thread Richmond
David Christensen writes: > On 5/14/22 05:57, Richmond wrote: >> writes: >> >>> On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 10:50:46AM +0100, Richmond wrote: Richmond writes: > David Christensen writes: >>> >>> [...] >>> > I expect there is some component of xfce4 which is supposed to > pro

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-14 Thread David Christensen
On 5/14/22 05:57, Richmond wrote: writes: On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 10:50:46AM +0100, Richmond wrote: Richmond writes: David Christensen writes: [...] I expect there is some component of xfce4 which is supposed to prompt for the root password. Perhaps it is not installed. I don't know w

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-14 Thread Richmond
writes: > On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 10:50:46AM +0100, Richmond wrote: >> Richmond writes: >> >> > David Christensen writes: > > [...] > >> > I expect there is some component of xfce4 which is supposed to prompt >> > for the root password. Perhaps it is not installed. I don't know what >> > it is

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-14 Thread tomas
On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 10:50:46AM +0100, Richmond wrote: > Richmond writes: > > > David Christensen writes: [...] > > I expect there is some component of xfce4 which is supposed to prompt > > for the root password. Perhaps it is not installed. I don't know what > > it is called. > > Is there

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-14 Thread Richmond
Richmond writes: > David Christensen writes: > >> On 5/13/22 09:02, Richmond wrote: >>> David Christensen writes: On 5/12/22 07:17, Richmond wrote: > David Christensen writes: >> On 5/11/22 06:55, Richmond wrote: >>> I have a network manager applet on my xfce4 desktop. I am logg

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-13 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 05:27:30PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 03:39:39PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > But the next paragraph talks of the file "/etc/resolvconf.conf", > > which has nothing to do with the resolvconf /package/, but is the > > configuration file for the /o

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-13 Thread David Wright
On Fri 13 May 2022 at 20:49:27 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 05:27:30PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > If my BEST EFFORTS fall that far short, then whatever. Maybe instead > > of berating the wiki and the hard-working editors who TRIED OUR DAMNED > > BEST to figure

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-13 Thread David Wright
On Fri 13 May 2022 at 17:27:30 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 03:39:39PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > But the next paragraph talks of the file "/etc/resolvconf.conf", > > which has nothing to do with the resolvconf /package/, but is the > > configuration file for the /ope

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 05:27:30PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > If my BEST EFFORTS fall that far short, then whatever. Maybe instead > of berating the wiki and the hard-working editors who TRIED OUR DAMNED > BEST to figure this shit out and document it for the world, you could, > like, help ou

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-13 Thread David Christensen
On 5/13/22 12:02, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 11:53:23AM -0700, David Christensen wrote: On 5/13/22 09:02, Richmond wrote: stat /etc/resolv.conf shows that the file has been updated but its content doesn't change. My /etc/resolv.conf did not change after running Network Manag

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 03:39:39PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > But the next paragraph talks of the file "/etc/resolvconf.conf", > which has nothing to do with the resolvconf /package/, but is the > configuration file for the /openresolv/ package. What? WHAT?!? You know, I REALLY TRY. If my BES

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-13 Thread David Wright
On Fri 13 May 2022 at 15:02:35 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 11:53:23AM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > > On 5/13/22 09:02, Richmond wrote: > > > stat /etc/resolv.conf shows that the file has been updated but its > > > content doesn't change. > > > > My /etc/resolv.conf

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-13 Thread Richmond
David Christensen writes: > On 5/13/22 09:02, Richmond wrote: >> David Christensen writes: >>> On 5/12/22 07:17, Richmond wrote: David Christensen writes: > On 5/11/22 06:55, Richmond wrote: >> I have a network manager applet on my xfce4 desktop. I am logged in as a >> non root u

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 11:53:23AM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 5/13/22 09:02, Richmond wrote: > > stat /etc/resolv.conf shows that the file has been updated but its > > content doesn't change. > > My /etc/resolv.conf did not change after running Network Manager; it changed > after rebooti

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-13 Thread David Christensen
On 5/13/22 09:02, Richmond wrote: David Christensen writes: On 5/12/22 07:17, Richmond wrote: David Christensen writes: On 5/11/22 06:55, Richmond wrote: I have a network manager applet on my xfce4 desktop. I am logged in as a non root user, and I can select edit connections and change the IP

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-13 Thread Richmond
David Christensen writes: > On 5/12/22 07:17, Richmond wrote: >> David Christensen writes: >> >>> On 5/11/22 06:55, Richmond wrote: I have a network manager applet on my xfce4 desktop. I am logged in as a non root user, and I can select edit connections and change the IPv4 settin

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-12 Thread David Christensen
On 5/12/22 07:17, Richmond wrote: David Christensen writes: On 5/11/22 06:55, Richmond wrote: I have a network manager applet on my xfce4 desktop. I am logged in as a non root user, and I can select edit connections and change the IPv4 settings to DHCP address only and then put in a DNS, then

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-12 Thread Richmond
David Christensen writes: > On 5/11/22 06:55, Richmond wrote: >> I have a network manager applet on my xfce4 desktop. I am logged in as a >> non root user, and I can select edit connections and change the IPv4 >> settings to DHCP address only and then put in a DNS, then save. If I >> look at /etc

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-11 Thread David Christensen
On 5/11/22 06:55, Richmond wrote: I have a network manager applet on my xfce4 desktop. I am logged in as a non root user, and I can select edit connections and change the IPv4 settings to DHCP address only and then put in a DNS, then save. If I look at /etc/resolv.conf though nothing has changed.