>
> Thanks, it sounds promising. If i install win2k as the guest OS on vmware
> which is in turn installed on linux, is there a way to copy the whole win2k
> installation into vmware, or do i need to re-install everything again?
>
I reinstalled everything, which I didn't mind as I have it running
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 01:53:34PM +1100, Russell wrote:
> Rohan Nicholls wrote:
> >* Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030125 00:17]:
>
> >You are right there, and there is plex86, but I have not explored that
> >fully yet, but intend to.
I gave it a shot. Overall it's still quite slow, and d
on Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 08:12:31PM -0800, nate ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Russell said:
>
> > Thanks, it sounds promising. If i install win2k as the guest OS on vmware
> > which is in turn installed on linux, is there a way to copy the whole
> > win2k installation into vmware, or do i need to re
Russell said:
> Thanks, it sounds promising. If i install win2k as the guest OS on vmware
> which is in turn installed on linux, is there a way to copy the whole
> win2k installation into vmware, or do i need to re-install everything
> again?
you should reinstall everything again. VMWare has the
on Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 01:53:34PM +1100, Russell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Rohan Nicholls wrote:
<...>
> >This I have not tried, the company I work for, has the Office and Win2k
> >licenses so I have just used VMware and installed them. It is a very
> >sweet system, and allows me to deal wit
on Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 12:59:24AM +0100, Rohan Nicholls ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> * Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030125 00:17]:
> > on Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 12:54:46AM +1100, Russell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > Rohan Nicholls wrote:
> >
> > > >I have to say that I took over my win
Rohan Nicholls wrote:
* Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030125 00:17]:
on Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 12:54:46AM +1100, Russell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Rohan Nicholls wrote:
I have to say that I took over my windows partition, and now run
win2k in an emulator for the times I need to for wo
* Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030125 00:17]:
> on Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 12:54:46AM +1100, Russell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Rohan Nicholls wrote:
>
> > >I have to say that I took over my windows partition, and now run
> > >win2k in an emulator for the times I need to for work, and it
#include
* Karsten M. Self [Thu, Jan 23 2003, 03:05:20AM]:
> > over the last year or so the lack of home windows use has atrophied
> > those skills somewhat, epecially with XP stuff.
>
> Heh.
>
> I'm still embarassed by my ability to troubleshoot legacy MS Windows
> issues based on my GNU/Linux
on Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 12:54:46AM +1100, Russell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Rohan Nicholls wrote:
> >I have to say that I took over my windows partition, and now run
> >win2k in an emulator for the times I need to for work, and it runs as
> >fast, with a few trivial exceptions, in the emulator
Rohan Nicholls wrote:
* John & Peg Pickard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030121 05:06]:
In short, will I be able to do something productive with Debian LINUX? And then
I
will want to network it with our laptop running WinME, and a LinkSys Print
server,
and possibly a US Robotics broadband router (if I ca
* John & Peg Pickard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030121 05:06]:
> In short, will I be able to do something productive with Debian LINUX? And then
> I
> will want to network it with our laptop running WinME, and a LinkSys Print
> server,
> and possibly a US Robotics broadband router (if I can use the "back
on Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 09:26:37PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 02:51:46AM +, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > on Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 01:05:28PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins
> > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > > Should it be? I can understand a desire
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 06:46:47PM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote:
> Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 01:05:28PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 12:40:17PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> >
> > [ snip ]
> >
> >> > I think so many Debian-i
Brian Nelson writes:
> These days, I think the installer is minimalistic because it has to be
> ported to so many arches (11 for woody). It's significantly more
> difficult to write a fancy installer that also works on all the arches
> Debian supports.
That's one reason. Another is Debian's insi
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 02:51:46AM +, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 01:05:28PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> > Should it be? I can understand a desire to ease the installation
> > process. However, I for one feel it is tremendously benificial for
>
>I strongly suspect that at least some of the confusion is the result of
>the environment. Legacy MS Windows *doesn't* let you know what's going
>on, it *does* change arbitrarially between versions, and often a given
>system will change its behavior unexpectedly, for unknown reasons. But
>there
on Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 01:56:22PM +1100, John Griffiths ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> >I strongly suspect that at least some of the confusion is the result
> >of the environment. Legacy MS Windows *doesn't* let you know what's
> >going on, it *does* change arbitrarially between versions, and o
Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 01:05:28PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 12:40:17PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote:
>
> [ snip ]
>
>> > I think so many Debian-ites have not needed to install for such a long
>> > time that they've forgotte
on Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 01:05:28PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 12:40:17PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote:
>
> > My point was how Mandrake is focused on making everything as easy as
> > possible to install and use -- so it's possible for the "average
> >
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 01:05:28PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 12:40:17PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote:
[ snip ]
> > I think so many Debian-ites have not needed to install for such a long
> > time that they've forgotten what it is like. Perhaps that's why the
> > install
>
> I also tried installing Mandrake about a month ago to see what it was
> like and found one of the best installers I've ever seen. I now carry
> the 1st Mandrake install CD around with my laptop anytime I need an
> emergency boot disk for someone. (Primarily because of the partitioning
> tool.
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 13:45, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 11:40, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > I wonder -- are the people that start with Debian people who are new to Linux,
> > but used to Unix or sys admin/programming on other systems, or are they just
> > at the "user" (or just abov
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 12:40:17PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> I wonder -- are the people that start with Debian people who are new to Linux,
> but used to Unix or sys admin/programming on other systems, or are they just
> at the "user" (or just above) level?
Back when I started with Debian (Dec
Alex Malinovich wrote:
Other than that, I was an absolute newbie. I thought mounting was what
you did with a horse
And when I was a newbie I thought it was . . . oh, uh, never mind. . . .
(I gotta learn some social skills . . . .)
curt, uh, I mean, Kent
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Hal Vaughan wrote:
I also find that seem to be contradicting yourself here. Your point before
was that this was way above the original poster's head. Now you're saying
any literate computer user can install Debian.
And, remember, your original response was to tell him to go away. It wasn'
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 13:00, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 11:40, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > I wonder -- are the people that start with Debian people who are new
> to Linux,
> > but used to Unix or sys admin/programming on other systems, or are
> they just
> > at the "user" (or just
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 12:40:17PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> My point was how Mandrake is focused on making everything as easy as
> possible to install and use -- so it's possible for the "average Joe"
> to go to Best Buy, or any other store that sells Mandrake, buy a box,
> take it home, instal
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 11:40, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> I wonder -- are the people that start with Debian people who are new to Linux,
> but used to Unix or sys admin/programming on other systems, or are they just
> at the "user" (or just above) level?
I did my first ever install of a Linux distro 13
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 01:33 am, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 01:52:40AM -0500, Hal Vaughan
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Tuesday 21 January 2003 12:31 am, Kent West wrote:
> > > John & Peg Pickard wrote:
> >
> > I would STRONGLY recommend trying Mandrake. While I ha
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 11:14 am, you wrote:
> #include
>
> * Hal Vaughan [Tue, Jan 21 2003, 11:39:12AM]:
> > comments. You're right. Truth is truth, even if it may hurt. I guess I
> > hit a vein of truth and hurts. Maybe you haven't noticed, but you accuse
> > this person of only whinnin
#include
* Hal Vaughan [Tue, Jan 21 2003, 11:39:12AM]:
> comments. You're right. Truth is truth, even if it may hurt. I guess I hit
> a vein of truth and hurts. Maybe you haven't noticed, but you accuse this
> person of only whinning, while your response is nothing more than excuses of
> w
on Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 01:52:40AM -0500, Hal Vaughan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Tuesday 21 January 2003 12:31 am, Kent West wrote:
> > John & Peg Pickard wrote:
> I would STRONGLY recommend trying Mandrake. While I have not had any
> problems with Mandrake 9.0, I have heard of some people w
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 02:46 am, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> #include
>
> * Hal Vaughan [Tue, Jan 21 2003, 01:52:40AM]:
> > > Linux, being an OS by geeks for geeks, up until just recently, needs a
> > > geek to get it set up properly. Mandrake and others have made vast
> > > improvements, but it's n
On Monday 20 January 2003 10:54 pm, John & Peg Pickard wrote:
>
> In short, will I be able to do something productive with Debian LINUX? And
> then I will want to network it with our laptop running WinME, and a LinkSys
> Print server, and possibly a US Robotics broadband router (if I can use the
>
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:33:22 -0800 (PST)
"nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't believe your a good candidate for using debian on the
> desktop. Perhaps SuSE, Mandrake or Xandros, despite being more
> propritary(sp), they are a step in the right direction(towards more
> openness) compared to
#include
* Hal Vaughan [Tue, Jan 21 2003, 01:52:40AM]:
> > Linux, being an OS by geeks for geeks, up until just recently, needs a
> > geek to get it set up properly. Mandrake and others have made vast
> > improvements, but it's not automatic. If you expect it to be, you'll be
> > disappointed. Wa
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 12:31 am, Kent West wrote:
> John & Peg Pickard wrote:
> > As I didn't have time to keep playing with LINUX, I gave up.
>
> Linux, being an OS by geeks for geeks, up until just recently, needs a
> geek to get it set up properly. Mandrake and others have made vast
> improv
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Once upon a time nate wrote @ Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:33:22 -0800 (PST)
> John & Peg Pickard said:
>
> > In short, will I be able to do something productive with Debian LINUX? And
> > then I will want to network it with our laptop running WinME, and a
>
John & Peg Pickard said:
> In short, will I be able to do something productive with Debian LINUX? And
> then I will want to network it with our laptop running WinME, and a
I don't believe your a good candidate for using debian on the desktop.
Perhaps SuSE, Mandrake or Xandros, despite being more
John & Peg Pickard wrote:
In early '99 . . .
So problem #1 was LINUX wasn't smart enough to find a sound card if
it wasn't
on interrupt 5 (unless the user was smart enough to edit and recompile
the sound
module).
Problem #2 was stair stepping when I printed. After some e-mail
correspond
Hello John,
Although Debian is my favorite distribution for several years, and although
for me installation of debian is only a snap (me only), I would still
recommend going with another distribution to start with. here is my
recommendations:
1. have at least one day or one weekend devoted to i
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