Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On 30/07/24 at 16:54, 타토카 wrote: "Debian *does* use git snapshots and other pre-releases for some packages, but not for Firefox ESR." - What do you mean? The developers use /Version control systems/ ¹ to develop their software, Debian may take the source code directly from the the developmen

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 19:54:49 +0500, 타토카 wrote: > "Debian *does* use git snapshots and other pre-releases for some packages, > but not for Firefox ESR." - What do you mean? For example, the package xserver-xorg-video-intel in bookworm has version 2:2.99.917+git20210115-1

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

"Debian *does* use git snapshots and other pre-releases for some packages, but not for Firefox ESR." - What do you mean? On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 7:09 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 14:53:39 +0100, Joe wrote: > > As far as I > > know, Debian doesn't use beta versions of any sof

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 14:53:39 +0100, Joe wrote: > As far as I > know, Debian doesn't use beta versions of any software, even in > unstable, so Firefox itself in unstable is likely to be the same > Firefox downloaded by thousands of people using other distributions, > and is no more likely to fai

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

I have another one question, which is important for me. When using debian sid, how much probably, that problems can remove or move to anywhere some important data from my PC (passwords, photos, notes, etc.). I understand that some unstable packages in debian sid can break the system, but what about

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 20:26:00 +0500, 타토카 wrote: > If I want to use rescue mode for debian via netinst, will my pc have to > have an internet connection? Yea, it is a stupid question, but anyway. No, you do not need an internet connection to boot the netinst image. Not even to install from it (t

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

If I want to use rescue mode for debian via netinst, will my pc have to have an internet connection? Yea, it is a stupid question, but anyway. On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 7:11 PM Joe wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:50:48 +0500 > 타토카 wrote: > > > Yes, I think so, that would be a good idea to install

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

Yes, I think so, that would be a good idea to install debian sid on VM first. Debian installation image? Do you mean debian netinst? Or debian live's versions? On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 3:43 PM Joe wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:57:48 +0500 > 타토카 wrote: > > > Is it enough to have usb Debian live

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:57:48 +0500 타토카 wrote: > Is it enough to have usb Debian live (for example XFCE) and use > Debian Sid? I mean I don't have another one computer, if the main > computer will be "broken". > > It would certainly help, though better would be a hard/SSD drive with USB adaptor.

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On 29/07/2024 02:57, 타토카 wrote: Is it enough to have usb Debian live (for example XFCE) and use Debian Sid? I mean I don't have another one computer, if the main computer will be "broken". Since you are asking this question, likely it is not enough. If your hardware allows it then consider in

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

Is it enough to have usb Debian live (for example XFCE) and use Debian Sid? I mean I don't have another one computer, if the main computer will be "broken". On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 11:44 PM David Wright wrote: > On Tue 23 Jul 2024 at 09:44:02 (+), Michael Kjörling wrote: > > On 22 Jul 2024 2

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On Tue 23 Jul 2024 at 09:44:02 (+), Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 22 Jul 2024 21:20 -0500, from deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk (David Wright): > > The machine I'm typing on is running bullseye and was installed with > > linux-image-5.10.0-13-amd64. It's running linux-image-5.10.0-31-amd64 > > now, so

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On 7/23/24 09:45, 타토카 wrote: Does anyone here use Debian Sid for professional work and programming? I do. Are you happy with this? I am. I just want to know your opinions about this experience. I have several old kernels and respective initrds on my machine and I have another machine runn

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

> > > This particular one may originate from > > > I had forgotten that page even existed. It hasn't been touched in 16 years. -rw-r--r-- 1 greg greg 11031 Dec 12 2007 sidfaq.html At this point it should be considered a historical artifact rather than

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On 22 Jul 2024 21:20 -0500, from deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk (David Wright): > The machine I'm typing on is running bullseye and was installed with > linux-image-5.10.0-13-amd64. It's running linux-image-5.10.0-31-amd64 > now, so that's 22 different versions over 27 months, and a lot of work > put in

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

Does anyone here use Debian Sid for professional work and programming? Are you happy with this? I just want to know your opinions about this experience. On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 7:52 AM Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 23/07/2024 09:23, Max Nikulin wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 00:25:27 +0500, 타토카

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On 23/07/2024 09:23, Max Nikulin wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 00:25:27 +0500, 타토카 wrote: I have read on the official Debian website about sid (in russian version): "Maybe. There was one real case where PAM broke. PAM checks all users, so without PAM no one can login, even as a root. If you

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On 23/07/2024 02:30, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 00:25:27 +0500, 타토카 wrote: I have read on the official Debian website about sid (in russian version): "Maybe. There was one real case where PAM broke. PAM checks all users, so without PAM no one can login, even as a root. If you w

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On Mon 22 Jul 2024 at 18:10:24 (-0400), Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 5:41 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 01:38:07PM +0500, 타토카 wrote: > > > [...] > > > 4. As I know Debian Sid does not have some packages like Arch, why? They > > > have rolling releases? I mean

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 5:41 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 01:38:07PM +0500, 타토카 wrote: > > [...] > > 4. As I know Debian Sid does not have some packages like Arch, why? They > > have rolling releases? I mean packages, for example, hyprland. > > Debian sid is not a rolling relea

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

Hi, On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 01:38:07PM +0500, 타토카 wrote: > Hello, dear Debian Community! I just want to ask you a few questions: > 1. How is Debian Sid stable then Arch Linux, for example? How often does > Debian Sid crash and breaked? If you have to ask this question, you should not try to use D

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On 23 Jul 2024 01:27 +0500, from cybertat...@gmail.com (타토카): > I know what PAM is. I understand what the problem is described on the > website. But I think if I get Debian Sid Update and after that PAM will > crash, I just want to know what the solution can be for it. You have mentioned at least

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On Tue 23 Jul 2024 at 00:25:27 (+0500), 타토카 wrote: > I have read on the official Debian website about sid (in russian version): > "Maybe. There was one real case where PAM broke. PAM checks all users, so > without PAM no one can login, even as a root. If you work in a precarious > environment, you

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 21:38:23 +0100, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 01:27:49 +0500 > 타토카 wrote: > > > I know what PAM is. I understand what the problem is described on the > > website. But I think if I get Debian Sid Update and after that PAM > > will crash, I just want to know what the solu

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

I know what PAM is. I understand what the problem is described on the website. But I think if I get Debian Sid Update and after that PAM will crash, I just want to know what the solution can be for it. I am interested in Debian Sid. But I just want to Insure myself of problems, which happened in th

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 00:25:27 +0500, 타토카 wrote: > I have read on the official Debian website about sid (in russian version): > "Maybe. There was one real case where PAM broke. PAM checks all users, so > without PAM no one can login, even as a root. If you work in a precarious > environment, you

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

I have read on the official Debian website about sid (in russian version): "Maybe. There was one real case where PAM broke. PAM checks all users, so without PAM no one can login, even as a root. If you work in a precarious environment, you must be able to handle such situations.". I don't know how

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On 7/22/24 3:38 AM, 타토카 wrote: Hello, dear Debian Community! I just want to ask you a few questions: 1. How is Debian Sid stable then Arch Linux, for example? How often does Debian Sid crash and breaked? I can't speak about Arch; I mostly use Sid on all my workstations, but none of my serv

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

타토카 wrote: > Hello, dear Debian Community! I just want to ask you a few questions: > 1. How is Debian Sid stable then Arch Linux, for example? How often does > Debian Sid crash and breaked? this depends upon which packages are used frequently. > 2. I have seen on the Debian official site abou