Re: Debian Installation experience

1997-07-09 Thread Dima
>>Brandon Mitchell wrote: ... >So you don't want your users (that is if you have any) to run perl >scripts? Well why didn't you say so: "chmod go-x /usr/bin/perl". This >won't break dpkg, and since the system is down during upgrades (on a >different kernel), there's no race condition. Or

Re: Debian Installation experience

1997-07-08 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Alexander Kjeldaas wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > * (Re)mounting is disabled. > > > * immutable-append-only are enforced by the kernel (i.e. you can't chmod > > > them away). > > Does this mean that you have to boot to a different kernel to do

Re: Debian Installation experience

1997-07-08 Thread Alexander Kjeldaas
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > * All filesystems are read-only. > Even /home? How are these people going to create any data if all filesystems > are read-only. Certainly, they have to have write access to some portion of > the system. Yes? If they do have write access anyw

Re: Debian Installation experience

1997-07-08 Thread Alexander Kjeldaas
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Alexander Kjeldaas wrote: > > > You are just plain wrong. Perl has syscall which makes it possible to do > > _anything_. You can't to _anything_ with sed. As for awk - I don't use > > it. > > I said "sh + sed + awk + cut + (all th

Re: Debian Installation experience

1997-07-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Alexander Kjeldaas wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: > > > On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Alexander Kjeldaas wrote: > > > > > Is it a goal for debian not to require perl? I don't think so - and > > > that is one of the things I don't like with debian. It seems that > > >

Re: Debian Installation experience

1997-07-08 Thread stick
> > On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: > > > On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Alexander Kjeldaas wrote: > > > > It's not possible to do that with ANY unix. If you give someone a login > > shell and a text editor, or even just an ftp-only login then they can > > create executables. > > Please tell me h

Re: Debian Installation experience

1997-07-08 Thread Alexander Kjeldaas
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Alexander Kjeldaas wrote: > > > > Is it a goal for debian not to require perl? I don't think so - and > > that is one of the things I don't like with debian. It seems that > > debian is infested with perlism. There are "smart" perl

Re: Debian Installation experience

1997-07-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Alexander Kjeldaas wrote: > Is it a goal for debian not to require perl? I don't think so - and > that is one of the things I don't like with debian. It seems that > debian is infested with perlism. There are "smart" perl-scripts doing > all sorts of things. perl is no less s

Re: Debian Installation experience

1997-07-06 Thread Jim Pick
> Hey don't get me wrong - I wasn't talking about debian as a whole, just > that IMO - the installation isn't as good as redhat's and that it should > be possible to do something about it. I bought a new hard drive, so I just installed Red Hat and FreeBSD here (no, I'm not switching). I was quit

Re: Debian Installation experience

1997-07-06 Thread Alexander Kjeldaas
On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Brandon Mitchell wrote: > > I installed using ftp. When deb-ftp gets packets it doesn't indicate where > > in the process it is. No estimated time is given - no "remaining packets" > > is given. > It would be a nice feature, but the debian programmers are currently busy > ov

Re: Debian Installation experience

1997-07-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallón
| I installed debian a few weeks ago and I noticed that when an installation | disk is corrupted you have to start the installation all over again. If I Well. Here's what I say to new users here: take seven disks, format them under DOS using a full format (not quick), copy the disks images using

Re: Debian Installation experience

1997-07-06 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Alexander Kjeldaas wrote: > > I installed debian a few weeks ago and I noticed that when an installation > disk is corrupted you have to start the installation all over again. If I > remember correctly there were 7 diskettes. Your memory is partially correct. Debian requires