On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 10:40:02 +0100 wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 07:29:21PM -0600, David Wright wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Yes. And that's probably why google searches so often land on Arch
>> wiki pages=E2=80=94I assume that google is still ranking on the basis
>> of links to pages.
>
> Google? W
David Wright wrote:
> Yes. And that's probably why google searches so often land on Arch
> wiki pages—I assume that google is still ranking on the basis of
> links to pages.
Links to pages?! Clicks on links and profiling
On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 07:29:21PM -0600, David Wright wrote:
[...]
> Yes. And that's probably why google searches so often land on Arch
> wiki pages—I assume that google is still ranking on the basis of
> links to pages.
Google? What /is/ that google thing people keep talking about?
;-P
Xmas,
On Sat 19 Dec 2020 at 19:04:40 (+), Brian wrote:
> On Sat 19 Dec 2020 at 09:43:02 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 12:01:14AM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Also I find very helpful the ArchLinux Wiki if I want to know how things
> > > work in general
On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 05:03:40PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 11:32:33AM +, mick crane wrote:
> > I noticed that if you add yourself to sudo group in /etc/group you
> > have to logout and log back in for it to be noticed.
>
> If you don't want to log out of the shell yo
Hello,
On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 11:32:33AM +, mick crane wrote:
> I noticed that if you add yourself to sudo group in /etc/group you
> have to logout and log back in for it to be noticed.
If you don't want to log out of the shell you can do this:
$ exec sg sudo "newgrp $(id -ng)"
The "exec"
On 2020-12-19 20:04, David Wright wrote:
<...>
saying because I noticed that if you add yourself to sudo group in
/etc/group you have to logout and log back in for it to be noticed.
mick
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Brian wrote:
> In what way does it rock? It hasn't any focus on Debian. Examples
> welcome.
Not on Debian, but it explains programs, subsystems and configurations much
better. AFAIR it was discussed once here.
What I was reading there, because the info I found on debian was confusing,
outdated or
On Fri 18 Dec 2020 at 13:05:26 (-0500), Jerry Mellon wrote:
> I installed the Debian 10 64bit from the disks(16) that I purchased. No
> down load from outside involved.
> PS Not trying to cause a problem, just telling you what I had to todo.
I'm sure you're posting in good faith. The problem is t
On Sat 19 Dec 2020 at 09:43:02 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 12:01:14AM +0100, deloptes wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Also I find very helpful the ArchLinux Wiki if I want to know how things
> > work in general. They tend to have a bit better (sorry Debian) concept of
> > doc
On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 12:01:14AM +0100, deloptes wrote:
[...]
> Also I find very helpful the ArchLinux Wiki if I want to know how things
> work in general. They tend to have a bit better (sorry Debian) concept of
> documentation.
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Table_of_contents
As a st
Jerry Mellon wrote:
> I am the only user on my laptop, an ASUS gaming machine Core i7. I gave
> up on Windows 10 after one of the so called updates corrupted the system
> so bad I could even boot. So I switched to Linux and I am learning a
> lot, mostly from the Debian-user list.
It is good to le
Well all I can say is, it works.
The Disks I purchase were from https://ShopLinuxOnline.com/ . Received
16disk and did not have any problems with them. They were all marked
Debian 10.6 Buster 64 Bit(amd64) with the Debian Logo.
I am the only user on my laptop, an ASUS gaming machine Core i7.
On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 01:08:32PM -0500, Jerry Mellon wrote:
> Here is the sudoers contents.
>
>
> /etc/sudoers
>
> # User privilege specification
> root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
>
> # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command
> sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
I think there's a percent sign missin
On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 01:05:26PM -0500, Jerry Mellon wrote:
> I installed the Debian 10 64bit from the disks(16) that I purchased. No
> down load from outside involved.
> Jerry
>
> PS Not trying to cause a problem, just telling you what I had to todo.
Why should you? I think everyone welcomes
On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 01:05:26PM -0500, Jerry Mellon wrote:
> I installed the Debian 10 64bit from the disks(16) that I purchased. No
> down load from outside involved.
Now we get to wonder what you actually purchased, from whom.
On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 01:08:32PM -0500, Jerry Mellon wrote:
> H
Here is the sudoers contents.
/etc/sudoers
# User privilege specification
rootALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
# Allow members of group sudo to execute any command
sudoALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
I installed the Debian 10 64bit from the disks(16) that I purchased. No
down load from outside involved.
Jerry
PS Not trying to cause a problem, just telling you what I had to todo.
to...@tuxteam.de wrote on 17-12-20 17:36:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 10:20:57AM -0600, David Wright wrote:
On Thu 17 Dec 2020 at 10:13:28 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 04:02:31PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 09:51:37AM -0500, Jerry Mellon wrote:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 10:20:57AM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 17 Dec 2020 at 10:13:28 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 04:02:31PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 09:51:37AM -0500, Jerry Mellon wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > When I installed
On Thu 17 Dec 2020 at 10:20:57 (-0600), I wrote:
> On Thu 17 Dec 2020 at 10:13:28 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 04:02:31PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 09:51:37AM -0500, Jerry Mellon wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > When I installed Debian 10 th
On Thu 17 Dec 2020 at 10:13:28 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 04:02:31PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 09:51:37AM -0500, Jerry Mellon wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > When I installed Debian 10 the %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL had a "#" in
> > > front of it. D
On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 04:02:31PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 09:51:37AM -0500, Jerry Mellon wrote:
> > Hi,
> > When I installed Debian 10 the %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL had a "#" in
> > front of it. Does the "%" have the same function as the "#"?
>
> No: "#" indicates a
On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 09:51:37AM -0500, Jerry Mellon wrote:
> Hi,
> When I installed Debian 10 the %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL had a "#" in
> front of it. Does the "%" have the same function as the "#"?
No: "#" indicates a comment, i.e. that line is commented out. You'd
have to remove the "#" (not t
Hi,
When I installed Debian 10 the %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL had a "#" in
front of it. Does the "%" have the same function as the "#"?
Jerry
I just finished installing Debain 10 on two VMs from the amd64 ISO
(debian-10.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso)
For both installs I used the graphical installer left all options at
defaults, Including the default desktop environment "Debian desktop
environment".
On the first install I left the root pas
On Wed, 2020-12-16 at 23:54 +, Brian wrote:
> On Wed 16 Dec 2020 at 16:00:08 -0600, David Wright wrote:
>
> > On Tue 15 Dec 2020 at 19:33:53 (+0100), john doe wrote:
> > > On 12/15/2020 6:34 PM, Tixy wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 11:36 +0100, john doe wrote:
> > > > > On 12/15/2020 10:1
On Wed 16 Dec 2020 at 16:00:08 -0600, David Wright wrote:
> On Tue 15 Dec 2020 at 19:33:53 (+0100), john doe wrote:
> > On 12/15/2020 6:34 PM, Tixy wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 11:36 +0100, john doe wrote:
> > > > On 12/15/2020 10:19 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> > > > > The Debian Installe
On Tue 15 Dec 2020 at 19:33:53 (+0100), john doe wrote:
> On 12/15/2020 6:34 PM, Tixy wrote:
> > On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 11:36 +0100, john doe wrote:
> > > On 12/15/2020 10:19 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > > > The Debian Installer will configure 'sudo' for the first user only if
> > > > you leave th
On Wed 16 Dec 2020 at 10:09:44 (+), Keith Bainbridge wrote:
> I was not offered to set a root passwd during the last 2 Buster installs I
> did. Admittedly, with mateDE and MAYBE that makes a difference. Who's going
> to try it to prove the point? It'll be several days before I can. Will d
On 12/16/20 2:09 AM, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
I was not offered to set a root passwd during the last 2 Buster
installs I did. Admittedly, with mateDE and MAYBE that makes a
difference. Who's going to try it to prove the point? It'll be several
days before I can. Will do if I don't see somebody
Keith Bainbridge wrote:
> I was not offered to set a root passwd during the last 2 Buster installs
> I did. Admittedly, with mateDE and MAYBE that makes a difference. Who's
> going to try it to prove the point? It'll be several days before I can.
> Will do if I don't see somebody beat me to it
I was not offered to set a root passwd during the last 2 Buster installs I
did. Admittedly, with mateDE and MAYBE that makes a difference. Who's going
to try it to prove the point? It'll be several days before I can. Will do if I
don't see somebody beat me to it.
Keith BAINBRIDGE
ke1thozgr
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 02:11:45PM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
> I smile at this discussion, having gone through this same thought-cycle so
> many times.
> I claim this is motivation for the separation of a graphical client
> workstation, simpler and separate from the server, having ONLY a
> si
On Tue 15 Dec 2020 at 18:02:48 +, Gareth Evans wrote:
> It seems to me that Jerry may have mistakenly typed a user rather than root
> password at the su (not sudo) prompt at least once, but also used the correct
> (root) password at least once.
I love the way you have completely misinterpr
I smile at this discussion, having gone through this same thought-cycle so
many times.
I claim this is motivation for the separation of a graphical client
workstation, simpler and separate from the server, having ONLY a
single-user identity at a time. In other words, re-implementation of the
XWindo
On Tue 15 Dec 2020 at 19:33:53 +0100, john doe wrote:
> On 12/15/2020 6:34 PM, Tixy wrote:
> > On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 11:36 +0100, john doe wrote:
> > > On 12/15/2020 10:19 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > > > On Lu, 14 dec 20, 19:45:54, Jerry Mellon wrote:
> > > > > I finally got around to installing
Hi Greg,
Thanks. Apologies if I'm missing something, but I don't understand how this
situation could have arisen other than because of password errors somewhere or
other.
Jerry said:
> When I booted the system
> and try to do "apt-get update and apt-get upgrade" using "sudo" it would
> not le
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 06:39:29PM +, Gareth Evans wrote:
> Hi Greg,
>
> Thanks. Apologies if I'm missing something, but I don't understand how this
> situation could have arisen other than because of password errors somewhere
> or other.
>
> Jerry said:
>
> > When I booted the system
> >
[re-sending to list as I initially replied from a non-subscribed address]
Hi Greg,
Thanks. Apologies if I'm missing something, but I don't understand how this
situation could have arisen other than because of password errors somewhere or
other.
Jerry said:
> When I booted the system
> and tr
On 12/15/2020 6:34 PM, Tixy wrote:
On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 11:36 +0100, john doe wrote:
On 12/15/2020 10:19 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Lu, 14 dec 20, 19:45:54, Jerry Mellon wrote:
I finally got around to installing debian 10 on my 64bit system(thus
removing the i386version I had originally ins
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 06:02:48PM +, Gareth Evans wrote:
> It seems to me that Jerry may have mistakenly typed a user rather than root
> password at the su (not sudo) prompt at least once, but also used the correct
> (root) password at least once.
>
> How else could changes to /etc/sudoers
It seems to me that Jerry may have mistakenly typed a user rather than root
password at the su (not sudo) prompt at least once, but also used the correct
(root) password at least once.
How else could changes to /etc/sudoers (which I imagine is what is meant by
"the sudouse(r) file") have been
On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 11:36 +0100, john doe wrote:
> On 12/15/2020 10:19 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Lu, 14 dec 20, 19:45:54, Jerry Mellon wrote:
> > > I finally got around to installing debian 10 on my 64bit system(thus
> > > removing the i386version I had originally instaled). The install we
On Ma, 15 dec 20, 11:36:50, john doe wrote:
> On 12/15/2020 10:19 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > The Debian Installer will configure 'sudo' for the first user only if
> > you leave the root password blank. This is explained during the install.
>
> That doesn't look to be the case anymore, I ju
On 12/15/2020 10:19 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Lu, 14 dec 20, 19:45:54, Jerry Mellon wrote:
I finally got around to installing debian 10 on my 64bit system(thus
removing the i386version I had originally instaled). The install went
well and I asked for a seperate Home particion. When I booted t
On Lu, 14 dec 20, 19:45:54, Jerry Mellon wrote:
> I finally got around to installing debian 10 on my 64bit system(thus
> removing the i386version I had originally instaled). The install went
> well and I asked for a seperate Home particion. When I booted the system
> and try to do "apt-get update a
On 12/15/2020 1:45 AM, Jerry Mellon wrote:
I finally got around to installing debian 10 on my 64bit system(thus
removing the i386version I had originally instaled). The install went
well and I asked for a seperate Home particion. When I booted the system
and try to do "apt-get update and apt-get
I can not begin to explain sudo, I don't use it, but many do.
It's complicated, start reading here: https://wiki.debian.org/sudo/
On 12/14/20 4:45 PM, Jerry Mellon wrote:
I finally got around to installing debian 10 on my 64bit system(thus
removing the i386version I had originally instaled). The
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