Re: Blocking Gmail ads

Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > Since Airbus doesn't > have copyright on the code they modified (the original authors who > GPLed it still have that copyright, under the interpretation of > derived works), they can't claim copyright infringement. Still trying to figure out how this conclusion

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 03:12:44PM -0500, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > On 25/05/2008, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now as to whether misappropriating that source code is a crime is > > beyond my knowledge. debian-legal would probably know. > > I'm starting to think it is, beca

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 25/05/2008, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now as to whether misappropriating that source code is a crime is > beyond my knowledge. debian-legal would probably know. I'm starting to think it is, because you do not receive a license if you don't obtain the code by legal means. Which

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/25/08 14:41, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > On 24/05/2008, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Setting that aside, you bring up an interesting point. If I take GPLed >> > code, I modify it internally, and somehow it leaks outside

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 24/05/2008, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Setting that aside, you bring up an interesting point. If I take GPLed > > code, I modify it internally, and somehow it leaks outside, is the > > person who takes it infringing copyright or not? I say they're not, > > since the code

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > The person who "leaked" it is the one doing the distribution or > "conveying". They are guilty of misappropriating your code and of > violating the license agreement. I would think that if you took > reasonable steps to prvent such leaks that you would be blameless.

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/24/08 12:14, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 11:54:17AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 05/24/08 11:39, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: >>> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 05:09:50PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/15/08 17:01, Jordi Guti?

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 07:41:20AM -0500, Jordi Guti?rrez Hermoso wrote: > On 15/05/2008, Rich Healey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > How does this work with GPLv3? They changed it from "distribute" to > > > "convey". Is Airbus conveying the software to its customers or not? If > > > there is a

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 11:54:17AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/24/08 11:39, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 05:09:50PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 05/15/08 17:01, Jordi Guti?rrez Hermoso wrote: > >>> On 15/05/2008, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The soft

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/24/08 11:58, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 05:57:06PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> There must be a socio-linguistic gap here. >> >> In the US (and probably in Canada/UK/ANZ), there's an expression >> that after the revolut

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 05:57:06PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > There must be a socio-linguistic gap here. > > In the US (and probably in Canada/UK/ANZ), there's an expression > that after the revolution is won, the revolutionary leaders are > brought "out back" and shot. Since Canada has no his

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/24/08 11:39, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 05:09:50PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 05/15/08 17:01, Jordi Guti?rrez Hermoso wrote: >>> On 15/05/2008, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> How can the software be co

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/24/08 11:35, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 08:02:25PM -0400, Celejar wrote: >> On Thu, 15 May 2008 15:58:33 -0500 >> "Jordi Guti?rrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> You may believe so, but not everyone agrees. IAN

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 05:09:50PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/15/08 17:01, Jordi Guti?rrez Hermoso wrote: > > On 15/05/2008, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> How can the software be conveyed to me if I'm pushing buttons on a > >> seat-back screen that's connected to a server

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 08:02:25PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 15 May 2008 15:58:33 -0500 > "Jordi Guti?rrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You may believe so, but not everyone agrees. IANAL, but the > above referenced Madwifi page justifies the need for the binary, > closed source HA

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 09:25:56AM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: > On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 15:58 -0500, Jordi Guti?rrez Hermoso wrote: > My understanding is that the FCC (which I believe has no jurisdiction > over me, but that's another issue) regulations require the manufacturer > to keep the sourc

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

2008/5/16 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Windows would not have a more-stable competitor in the 'easy to use' >> space > > How exactly are we free software users benefitted by Windows having a > non-free competitor? > You "free software users" are benefited by Windows having a non

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/16/08 14:09, Dotan Cohen wrote: [snip] > you are permitted to practice it in a public setting. The government > won't wait until you kill someone to prevent you from doing something > dangerous. Sure they do. Happens all the time. - -- Ron Joh

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

2008/5/15 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Power to the users. If they break the laws, that's their problem. We > don't need paternalistic corporations doing the job of law-enforcement > agencies. Engineering does not work that way. Neither does medicine, nor driver's licenses for th

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 01:40:30PM -0400, Brian McKee wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Apple doesn't give a rats ass about integrating with KDE, nor should > > they. They do, however, consider rich text editing a priority, and KDE > > isn't as

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Apple doesn't give a rats ass about integrating with KDE, nor should they. > They > do, however, consider rich text editing a priority, and KDE isn't as > concerned about that. This is the one statement I think could be

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 07:34:19AM -0500, Jordi Guti?rrez Hermoso wrote: > On 16/05/2008, Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > That they did it by taking it in-house instead of trying to convince > > the people who tied it to KDE that it should be more general is > > utterly irre

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 15/05/2008, Rich Healey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How does this work with GPLv3? They changed it from "distribute" to > > "convey". Is Airbus conveying the software to its customers or not? If > > there is a way to bring a USB dongle and get some of the software from > > the entertainme

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 16/05/2008, Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 09:44:50PM -0500, Jordi Guti?rrez Hermoso wrote: > > On 15/05/2008, Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Looks like Apple did terrible harm by devoting resources to improving > > > the function

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 09:44:50PM -0500, Jordi Guti?rrez Hermoso wrote: > On 15/05/2008, Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Looks like Apple did terrible harm by devoting resources to improving > > the functionality and releasing them to the world, eh? Oh, but it > > isn't gettin

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/15/08 23:05, Lee Glidewell wrote: > The stable one does, yes, but it's switching to WebKit. The epiphany-webkit > package has been in the Testing repository for some time now. > > It's very fast, but last time I used it, it had quite a few hicc

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

The stable one does, yes, but it's switching to WebKit. The epiphany-webkit package has been in the Testing repository for some time now. It's very fast, but last time I used it, it had quite a few hiccups when loading dynamic pages. On Thursday 15 May 2008 08:49:55 pm Ron Johnson wrote: > Epi

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/15/08 20:38, Gregory Seidman wrote: [snip] > repository. As a result, KHTML is used in exactly one environment > (Konqueror/KDE) and WebKit is used in all kinds of places (Safari, the Qt > library, Adobe AIR, Google's Android, GNOME's Epiphany, e

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > On 15/05/2008, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> On 05/15/08 12:41, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: >> > On 14/05/2008, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 15/05/2008, Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not KHTML? Actually, since WebKit is part of Qt > these days, KDE could just ditch KHTML and use WebKit instead. It's not so easy. Technical obstacles loom ahead: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3073 - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBS

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 15/05/2008, Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looks like Apple did terrible harm by devoting resources to improving the > functionality and releasing them to the world, eh? Oh, but it isn't getting > back to KHTML quickly, you say? That sometimes happens in a code fork. Well, the

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 06:53:26PM -0500, Jordi Guti?rrez Hermoso wrote: > On 15 May 2008 19:40:21 -0400, Luke S Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Jordi Guti?rrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > ... Apple taking code without > > > giving back in a usable way, or not giving back

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 15/05/2008, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > > They're > > playing nice today, and even Microsoft was once widely thought to be > > playing nice too, but there's no reason why they should keep doing so. > > > Er, what? When did that happen? Certai

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

"Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Are they really giving us access? I've seen screenshots of the printer > setup utility in Mac OS X, and although it looks vaguely like > Foomatic, I'm quite sure there's stuff in there that's not being > shared back thanks to the GPL exception

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 15/05/2008, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On 05/15/08 19:29, Luke S Crawford wrote: > [snip] > > > paid lots of money to write open-source software.Think of how much > > great software we'd get paid to write if VC started fu

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > They're > playing nice today, and even Microsoft was once widely thought to be > playing nice too, but there's no reason why they should keep doing so. Er, what? When did that happen? Certainly not in the past 20 or so years. -- Steve C. Lamb

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 15 May 2008 20:29:29 -0400, Luke S Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Also, the GPL exception in CUPS for Apple only, of which I have > > recently also complained. :-) [snip] > while still giving us > (open-source users) access to

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/15/08 19:29, Luke S Crawford wrote: [snip] > paid lots of money to write open-source software.Think of how much > great software we'd get paid to write if VC started funding startups > that wrote and sold dual-licensed GPL software on the "I

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

"Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Also, the GPL exception in CUPS for Apple only, of which I have > recently also complained. :-) This is what I was talking about with the 'gpl enables new business models' - apple let the main cups developers 'cash out' (thus encouraging o

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

"Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ... Apple taking code without > giving back in a usable way, or not giving back at all? see Darwin- Apple is giving away a bunch of it's OS-level advances. Like most companies, they don't want to give away their 'core technology' (which fo

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Thu, May 15, 2008 4:53 pm, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > How exactly are we free software users benefitted by Windows having a > non-free competitor? Lighter shades of grey are still lighter. -- Steve Lamb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Thu, 15 May 2008 15:58:33 -0500 "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > There's actually a very real example of this in Debian, modifications > of BMWs aside. The iwlwifi driver uses a firmware blob that Intel > claims is necessary in order to enforce FCC regulations. This i

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/15/08 18:53, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: [snip] > > How exactly are we free software users benefitted by Windows having a > non-free competitor? We as members of society benefit by the monopoly being prodded to improve. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 15 May 2008 19:40:21 -0400, Luke S Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > ... Apple taking code without > > > giving back in a usable way, or not giving back at all? > > > see Darwin- Apple is giving away a bunch of it's OS-level advanc

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Thu, 15 May 2008 10:07:39 -0700 "Paul Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 15 May 2008 02:50:48 am Magnus Therning wrote: > > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... > > > I'd be happy with a solution that either blocks all Gmail ads

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/15/08 17:19, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > On 15/05/2008, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> On 05/15/08 17:01, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: >> > On 15/05/2008, Ron Johnson <

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/15/08 17:37, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > On 15/05/2008, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, May 15, 2008 3:19 pm, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: >> > By the way, unlike you, I do not advocate murder of anyone. >> >> >> Neit

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 15/05/2008, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2008 3:19 pm, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > > By the way, unlike you, I do not advocate murder of anyone. > > > Neither did he. Unlike you, he grasps the concept of allegory. Getting incensed enough about something to

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Thu, May 15, 2008 3:19 pm, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > By the way, unlike you, I do not advocate murder of anyone. Neither did he. Unlike you, he grasps the concept of allegory. -- Steve Lamb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 15/05/2008, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On 05/15/08 17:01, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > > On 15/05/2008, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> How can the software be conveyed to me if I'm pushing buttons on a >

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/15/08 17:01, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > On 15/05/2008, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> How can the software be conveyed to me if I'm pushing buttons on a >> seat-back screen that's connected to a server in the stewardesses' >>

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 15/05/2008, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How can the software be conveyed to me if I'm pushing buttons on a > seat-back screen that's connected to a server in the stewardesses' > area. *Especially* since I don't own the seat Depends on what "convey" means, doesn't it? I thin

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 07:27:23AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 05/15/08 04:50, Magnus Therning wrote: > > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: [snip] > > I used

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 15:58 -0500, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > There's actually a very real example of this in Debian, modifications > of BMWs aside. The iwlwifi driver uses a firmware blob that Intel > claims is necessary in order to enforce FCC regulations. This is > ridiculous. First of al

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/15/08 16:01, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > On 15/05/2008, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> On 05/15/08 12:41, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: >> > On 14/05/2008, Michelle Konz

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 15/05/2008, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On 05/15/08 12:41, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > > On 14/05/2008, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > > > > >> OH, Airbus is using Linux too... So, do you want

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 15/05/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:2008/5/15 > Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On 14/05/2008, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> But you kbnow, that ANY modification in the Electronic or Software > >> will invalid the right to use the BMW pub

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/15/08 14:33, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2008 11:24 am, Ron Johnson wrote: >> The source only needs to be available to parties that you distribute >> binaries to. > > Presuming the application is also licensed under the GPL and/or li

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Thu, May 15, 2008 11:24 am, Ron Johnson wrote: > The source only needs to be available to parties that you distribute > binaries to. Presuming the application is also licensed under the GPL and/or links to GPLed libs as opposed to LGPL libs. Just because it runs on Linux does not mean the

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/15/08 12:41, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > On 14/05/2008, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > >> OH, Airbus is using Linux too... So, do you want to have access to the >> sourcecode because you are traveling with an Airbu

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

2008/5/15 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 14/05/2008, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So you want to have access to the sourcecode od the boardcomputer of a >> BMW? > > That would be nice. I already bought the car, I should know how it > works, and I should be ab

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 14/05/2008, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So you want to have access to the sourcecode od the boardcomputer of a > BMW? That would be nice. I already bought the car, I should know how it works, and I should be able to take it to any mechanic (or coder) to get it fixed, not ju

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Thursday 15 May 2008 02:50:48 am Magnus Therning wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > I'm getting a little tired of Gmail serving me Matlab ads whenever I'm > > browsing the Octave mailing lists. That's quite obnoxious. It looks

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

2008/5/15 Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It is realy weird, WHY peoples want to have access to sourcecodes to > hardware they can not use access legaly. > I'm having a hard time wording this without sounding offensive, but here goes. It's usually the people who get all uptight about t

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

Am 2008-05-13 19:01:17, schrieb Steve Lamb: > Uhm, that is a gross oversimplification. You use software you have the > right to the source. If you *choose* to release software *to others* they > have right to the source. > > Hate to break it to you but I use FOSS all the time for my priv

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

Am 2008-05-13 21:38:04, schrieb Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso: > On 13/05/2008, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hate to break it to you but I use FOSS all the time for my private and > > personal use as well as my professional use. There is code I have that > will > > not ever be r

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/15/08 04:50, Magnus Therning wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > I'm getting a little tired of Gmail serving me Matlab ads whenever I'm > browsing

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks, this does seem to be a better method. Is there a way to avoid > restarting the computer after adding new entries to /etc/hosts? There is no need to reboot after that. At most, you should need to restart the affected

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

2008/5/15 Magnus Therning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I'm getting a little tired of Gmail serving me Matlab ads whenever I'm >> browsing the Octave mailing lists. That's quite obnoxious. It looks >> like it's tr

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm getting a little tired of Gmail serving me Matlab ads whenever I'm > browsing the Octave mailing lists. That's quite obnoxious. It looks > like it's tricky to block Google ads, since it looks like Google can

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/14/08 02:49, Mumia W.. wrote: [snip] > > Oh, and by the way, one of those "people" might be Google. Would we be > smiling if Google abandons its opensource efforts and throws its weight > behind proprietary software and Microsoft's TCPA? Nah.

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

Actually, with Summer of Code, I think that google contributes more to FOSS software than almost any other entity that I can name. Maybe their specific patches to the linux kernel they keep to themselves, but they more than make up for it in paying for developers to write code that will benefit lot

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 05/13/2008 09:01 PM, Steve Lamb wrote: [...] Hate to break it to you but I use FOSS all the time for my private and personal use as well as my professional use. There is code I have that will not ever be redistributed and as such you, nor anyone else, has right to that source because y

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

2008/5/14 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 13/05/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I now _miss_ the ads in gmail, as they are almost always >> relevant to what I'm reading. > > While Google got the relevance right of putting Matlab ads when I'm > reading the Octave

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 13/05/2008, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hate to break it to you but I use FOSS all the time for my private and > personal use as well as my professional use. There is code I have that will > not ever be redistributed and as such you, nor anyone else, has right to that > s

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/13/08 21:01, Steve Lamb wrote: [snip] > > They haven't released it for others to use. They're under no obligation > to share the source. That's not a loophole. That's freedom. If you don't think like I think people should think, you're E

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > > Well, the problem with software-as-service is that more and more > software is moving in that direction. Google, to mention the villain > du jour, Cute. > You take our free code, you have to give back free code. It seems > fair to me, but not to Google.

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Tue, 13 May 2008 17:59:37 -0500 "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > Any recommendation for a quality webmail service that uses free > software? I don't mind paying for the service, but I feel rather more > comfortable if I know that they use free software, maybe even Deb

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 13/05/2008, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I use several Lavabit free accounts, and I'm quite happy with them. So why are you sending from a Gmail account? > The intellectual property stuff doesn't really seem so bad: > > > > Intellectual Property > > You acknowledge that

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Tue, 13 May 2008 17:59:37 -0500 "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > Actually I didn't... It looks like an option, but now I'm flirting > right now with the idea of using Lavabit, which looks like a nice > alternative, and I'd be quite happy to pay for a quality webmail >

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

2008/5/14 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm getting a little tired of Gmail serving me Matlab ads whenever I'm > browsing the Octave mailing lists. That's quite obnoxious. It looks > like it's tricky to block Google ads, since it looks like Google can > detect when you're using Adb

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 13/05/2008, Allan Wind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adblock Plus: Element Hiding Helper Excellent! I didn't know about this latter one. Even though I think I still want to move away from Gmail, it's nice to know that there are further tools to help fight the anti-ad battles. - Jordi G. H.

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 2008-05-13T17:03:27-0500, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > I'm getting a little tired of Gmail serving me Matlab ads whenever I'm > browsing the Octave mailing lists. That's quite obnoxious. It looks > like it's tricky to block Google ads, since it looks like Google can > detect when you're usin

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Tue, May 13, 2008 3:59 pm, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > Any recommendation for a quality webmail service that uses free > software? I don't mind paying for the service, but I feel rather more > comfortable if I know that they use free software, maybe even Debian. > :-) If not, I think I may

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 13/05/2008, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Usenet isn't gone. I think that Debian must be one of the last organisations that still uses Usenet. The Wesnoth, Octave, Maxima and VTK mailing lists don't have Usenet alternatives as far as I can see. Sage uses Google groups. :-( - Jordi G

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

Jordi writes: > Can anyone suggest a fix? You want a free service from an advertising agency without advertising? Right. > I'm beginning to miss Usenet. Usenet isn't gone. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL P

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On 13/05/2008, Nicolas George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le quintidi 25 floréal, an CCXVI, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso a écrit : Floréal? :-) > > I'm getting a little tired of Gmail serving me Matlab ads whenever I'm > > browsing the Octave mailing lists. > > > > Can anyone suggest a fix? > > >

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 05:03:27PM -0500, Jordi Guti?rrez Hermoso wrote: > I'm getting a little tired of Gmail serving me Matlab ads whenever I'm > browsing the Octave mailing lists. That's quite obnoxious. It looks > like it's tricky to block Google ads, since it looks like Google can > detect whe

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

On Tuesday 13 May 2008 03:03:27 pm Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > Can anyone suggest a fix? I only use Gmail for mailing lists nowadays, > and have moved my personal email to a server in an undisclosed > location in a remote island... ;-) Why not use that for mailing lists as well? It's not li

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

"Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > I'd be happy with a solution that either blocks all Gmail ads or a > better method to browse the 14 mailing lists I'm currently subscribed > to, many of them high-volume. I'm beginning to miss Usenet. > > - Jordi G. H. > You can u

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/13/08 17:03, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > I'm getting a little tired of Gmail serving me Matlab ads whenever I'm > browsing the Octave mailing lists. That's quite obnoxious. It looks > like it's tricky to block Google ads, since it looks like

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

Le quintidi 25 floréal, an CCXVI, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso a écrit : > I'm getting a little tired of Gmail serving me Matlab ads whenever I'm > browsing the Octave mailing lists. That's quite obnoxious. It looks > like it's tricky to block Google ads, since it looks like Google can > detect when you