Re: 2.5.50 on Woody

2002-12-18 Thread Matthias Hentges
Am Mit, 2002-12-18 um 11.02 schrieb arief_mulya: > Gary Turner wrote: > > > >> > > > > Sorry, not quite clear of your meant here. Gary wanted to point out that it is seen as "bad behaviour" to delete the "Someone wrote:" line (attribution-line). If you delete it in your reply, you make it very h

Re: 2.5.50 on Woody

2002-12-18 Thread arief_mulya
Dear Gary, Gary Turner wrote: Sorry, not quite clear of your meant here. Given all the dangers alluded to, my curiosity is giving me fits. Just why do you need/want the 2.5.x kernel? Why not the 2.4 or even the 2.2? If you said, I missed it (my bad). Simple, Just for fun. :-) Ac

Re: 2.5.50 on Woody

2002-12-18 Thread Gary Turner
arief_mulya wrote: > >> Development kernels *do* have bugs which can wipe out all of your data >> in a second...or trash your BIOS / HD / whatnot all-together. Thats why >> they are called "unstable". (yes i'm very serious) >> >> > >Thank you for your kind reminder, >Today I'm backing up my

Re: 2.5.50 on Woody

2002-12-18 Thread arief_mulya
Dear all, Good point IMO. But be damn sure not to have *anything* important on this PC. Development kernels *do* have bugs which can wipe out all of your data in a second...or trash your BIOS / HD / whatnot all-together. Thats why they are called "unstable". (yes i'm very serious) Thank yo

Re: 2.5.50 on Woody

2002-12-17 Thread Matthias Hentges
Am Mit, 2002-12-18 um 02.57 schrieb arief_mulya: > Dear, > > >>...if you would be ready, you would not ask this question. This is a simple > >>answer. You would now what to ask, that is a level of trouble resistancy and > >>problem solving strategies that you should bring with you when you start >

Re: 2.5.50 on Woody

2002-12-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 08:57:17AM +0700, arief_mulya wrote: > Dear, > >ACK > >Don't mess around with experimental stuff (Linux XP?) without knowing > >what you are doing. > > > >To find out what you need for your kernel check its documentation. > >Its that simple. > > Then, When will I know what

Re: 2.5.50 on Woody

2002-12-17 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 20:57, arief_mulya wrote: > Dear, > > >>...if you would be ready, you would not ask this question. This is a simple > >>answer. You would now what to ask, that is a level of trouble resistancy and > >>problem solving strategies that you should bring with you when you start >

Re: 2.5.50 on Woody

2002-12-17 Thread arief_mulya
Dear, ...if you would be ready, you would not ask this question. This is a simple answer. You would now what to ask, that is a level of trouble resistancy and problem solving strategies that you should bring with you when you start playing with experimental (but essential!) software. ACK Don't

Re: 2.5.50 on Woody

2002-12-17 Thread Matthias Hentges
Am Die, 2002-12-17 um 11.11 schrieb Eduard Bloch: > #include > arief_mulya wrote on Tue Dec 17, 2002 um 01:10:41PM: > > Thank you for kind explanation. > > Now, suppose me still wants to get into it. > > What will I need? > > > > I learn from previous posts, I'll need newest modutils. > > Then wh

Re: 2.5.50 on Woody

2002-12-17 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include arief_mulya wrote on Tue Dec 17, 2002 um 01:10:41PM: > Thank you for kind explanation. > Now, suppose me still wants to get into it. > What will I need? > > I learn from previous posts, I'll need newest modutils. > Then what else? I plan to stick on woody for a while, not ...if you wou

Re: 2.5.50 on Woody

2002-12-16 Thread arief_mulya
Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: 2.5 is really not for newbies at all. It is the development kernel (i.e. unfinished, often broken, constantly changing) that will eventually be released as Linux 2.6. For now, though, you almost definitely do not want it. Dear Noah, Thank you for kind explanation.

Re: 2.5.50 on Woody

2002-12-16 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 10:18:34AM +0700, arief_mulya wrote: > But can somebody tells a little fairytale about the new 2.5 > kernels? Structures, layouts, newbie-readable-changelog? 2.5 is really not for newbies at all. It is the development kernel (i.e. unfinished, often broken, constantly chan

Re: 2.5.50 on Woody

2002-12-16 Thread arief_mulya
Dear all, Colin Watson wrote: There've already been several responses to your first post. Please see the archives if you aren't subscribed. Oops, sorry. Didnt' notice that I've unsubscribe. Reading the archives.. done. (re)-Subscribing processing. Subscribing to lkml done. T

Re: 2.5.50 on Woody

2002-12-16 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 08:31:22AM +0700, arief_mulya wrote: > A happy dummy newby here, There've already been several responses to your first post. Please see the archives if you aren't subscribed. Regards, -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: 2.5.50 on Woody

2002-12-16 Thread Oki DZ
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 08:31:22AM +0700, arief_mulya wrote: > 6. This newbie gets lots of modules dependency error There was a post in this list said that modutils (even sid's) wouldn't work on 2.5.x; you have to recompile it first. BTW, if module loading was the problem, you can include everyth

Re: 2.5.50 on Woody

2002-12-16 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 08:31:22AM +0700, arief_mulya wrote: > Dear All, Welcome to debian. > A happy dummy newby here, > > 1. This newbie install woody. Good. > 2. This newbie download linux-2.5.50.tar.gz Wow, not too fast. Have you compiled 2.5 series? Other than geek bragging purpose, why

Re: 2.5.50 on Woody

2002-12-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 04:20:37PM +0700, arief_mulya wrote: > 2. This newbie download linux-2.5.50.tar.gz I don't think 'newbie' and '2.5.50' in same sentence is a good idea. It's still highly experimental and not for general use. > 4. This newbie get Install succeed but need manual hack It's a

Re: 2.5.50 on Woody

2002-12-16 Thread Frank Copeland
On 16 Dec 02 09:20:37 GMT, arief_mulya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. This newbie install woody. > 2. This newbie download linux-2.5.50.tar.gz Bleeding edge. Warning Will Robinson! > 3. This newbie untar it and compile it with make-kpkg > 4. This newbie get Install succeed but need manual hack

Re: 2.5.50 on Woody

2002-12-16 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 04:20:37PM +0700, arief_mulya wrote: > A happy dummy newby here, > > 1. This newbie install woody. > 2. This newbie download linux-2.5.50.tar.gz This newbie should use a stable kernel instead. :-) If you must use development kernels, then you must be prepared to debug pro