Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 20:14:03 -0700 "Michael M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Debian stable has a lot of value and serves many > important purposes, but being a showcase for a nice up-to-date Linux > desktop is not one of them. > > -- > Michael M. ++ Portland, OR ++ USA I do agree with that, b

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 20:39:55 -0700 L.V.Gandhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/14/06, Rick Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri April 14 2006 17:07, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > > > I use aliases for all apt jobs. I was thinking I was upgrading. But > > > actually doing dist-upgrade. > > > but f

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-15 Thread Edward C. Jones
I use a PC with a AMD Athlon64. 3500+ chip and Debian unstable, i386 port. At about 1800 ESt today, I used synaptic to update my system. Much of X is being upgraded. I got a error message about x11-common. So I tried to reinstall x11-common. I get the message E: x11-common: subprocess post-ins

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-14 Thread Bill Wohler
Žáček Kryštof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I agree, but only partially. Agree with what? Top posting makes it really hard to follow a discussion. > This proves lack of software quality testing in > the Debian release model. Sid isn't released. What part of unstable don't you understand? -- B

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-14 Thread L . V . Gandhi
On 4/14/06, Rick Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri April 14 2006 17:07, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > > I use aliases for all apt jobs. I was thinking I was upgrading. But > > actually doing dist-upgrade. > > but for me everything was ok except virtual terminals opening, which > > is no t happenin

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-14 Thread Michael M.
Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: Finally, to all those people, who keep referring unstable for newbies - situations like this should be kept in mind. raju I have not recommended Debian's stable branch to people new to Linux for a long time, and I don't think I ever would, except as a "just try i

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-14 Thread James Westby
On (14/04/06 22:24), Rick Friedman wrote: > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > From: Rick Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=7.0 tests=none autolearn=ham > version=3.1.1 > X-Spam-Level: > Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 22:24:01 -0400 >

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-14 Thread Rick Friedman
On Fri April 14 2006 17:07, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > I use aliases for all apt jobs. I was thinking I was upgrading. But > actually doing dist-upgrade. > but for me everything was ok except virtual terminals opening, which > is no t happening still, though I have the following in my laptop dell > i600m.

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-14 Thread David R. Litwin
Raju: > Finally, to all those people, who keep referring unstable for newbies - > situations like this should be kept in mind. Mark Crean: Don't worry. With the kind of  attitude on display among some of the regular Debian-fanciers who post here, I should imagine these "newbies" will beheading for

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-14 Thread Mark Crean
On Friday 14 April 2006 22:18, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: [snip] > Finally, to all those people, who keep referring unstable for newbies - > situations like this should be kept in mind. > > raju Don't worry. With the kind of attitude on display among some of the regular Debian-fanciers who post

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-14 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Thursday 13 April 2006 07:36, ?á?ek Kry?tof wrote: > I agree, but only partially. > > look - STABLE is too outdated for desktop, TESTING is often broken more > than unstable (mainly missing dependancies or completely missing apps (e.g. > K3b was absent from testing for many months!)). SID appear

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-14 Thread L . V . Gandhi
On 4/13/06, S. M. Ibrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry for this post. I tell him (L.V.Gandhi) to make dist-upgrade now, as i > found that, at the first upgrade you may not get xserver-xorg 7.1 . I tested > this on one of my pc. After that, when i make apt-get update and check the > cache po

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-14 Thread Wackojacko
L.V.Gandhi wrote: On 4/13/06, S. M. Ibrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry for this post. I tell him (L.V.Gandhi) to make dist-upgrade now, as i found that, at the first upgrade you may not get xserver-xorg 7.1 . I tested this on one of my pc. After that, when i make apt-get update and check

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-14 Thread L . V . Gandhi
On 4/13/06, S. M. Ibrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry for this post. I tell him (L.V.Gandhi) to make dist-upgrade now, as i > found that, at the first upgrade you may not get xserver-xorg 7.1 . I tested > this on one of my pc. After that, when i make apt-get update and check the > cache

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles - OT

2006-04-14 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 13 April 2006 12:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: > Am I the only one who has managed to upgrade Xorg without anything > breaking (did it earlier this morning)? :-o So far, yes. But thanks for sharing. Maybe the Maintainers have g

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-14 Thread Chris
ing in the Debian release model. In my > opinion the released Xorg 7 package belongs still to experimental. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Joey Hess [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:41 PM > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.or

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-13 Thread S. M. Ibrahim
On Friday 14 April 2006 08:21, Michael M. wrote: > S. M. Ibrahim wrote: > > On Thursday 13 April 2006 20:40, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > >> I also upgraded sid. > >> I didn't face any problem with x or kdm or keyboard > > > > You will face this if you make a dist-upgrade toady. > > Why? What changed today

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-13 Thread Paul Scott
Michael M. wrote: S. M. Ibrahim wrote: On Thursday 13 April 2006 20:40, L.V.Gandhi wrote: I also upgraded sid. I didn't face any problem with x or kdm or keyboard You will face this if you make a dist-upgrade toady. Why? What changed today? I upgraded yesterday to Xorg 7.0 without

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-13 Thread Katipo
David Purton wrote: On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 12:06:00PM +0200, Žáček Kryštof wrote: Well, this transition could have been prepared better - testing stuff in such state on human beings is not ethical. Well, it worked. Look at all the errors you found :) I can add to them though... x-c

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-13 Thread David Purton
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 02:50:23PM +0100, George Borisov wrote: > David Purton wrote: > > > > x-cursor-theme is no longer respected by xorg. You get the default X > > cursors no matter what. > > Quoted from a post earlier today: > > --- > > The easiest way to work around this seems to be creati

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-13 Thread Michael M.
S. M. Ibrahim wrote: On Thursday 13 April 2006 20:40, L.V.Gandhi wrote: I also upgraded sid. I didn't face any problem with x or kdm or keyboard You will face this if you make a dist-upgrade toady. Why? What changed today? I upgraded yesterday to Xorg 7.0 without a single thing

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-13 Thread Rick Friedman
On Thu April 13 2006 16:04, Wackojacko wrote: > You may want to take a look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, ans > /var/log/Xorg.log. You will probably see errors setting the kdb > parameters due to incorrect wording in xorg.conf. > > The relevant section of my xorg.conf is > > Option"XkbRul

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles - OT

2006-04-13 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:47:34 +0300 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:17:21 +0100 > George Borisov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Am I the only one who has managed to upgrade Xorg without anything > > breaking (did it earlier this morning)? :-o > > > > That said

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-13 Thread L . V . Gandhi
On 4/13/06, Wackojacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You may want to take a look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, ans > /var/log/Xorg.log. You will probably see errors setting the kdb > parameters due to incorrect wording in xorg.conf. > > The relevant section of my xorg.conf is > > Option "XkbRu

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-13 Thread Brad Sims
On Thursday 13 April 2006 6:36 am, Žáček Kryštof wrote: > look - STABLE is too outdated for desktop, TESTING is often broken more than > unstable (mainly missing dependancies or completely missing apps (e.g. K3b > was > absent from testing for many months!)). SID appears to be the best choice for

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-13 Thread Wackojacko
Rick Friedman wrote: On Thu April 13 2006 11:59, Michael Ott wrote: Hello! Some special keys do not work anymore = Cannot switch to virtual consoles with Alt-Ctrl-F1 Dead keys (ˇ) do not work anymore (e.g. for characters like Ž) Try this: setxkbmap -rules

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-13 Thread Rick Friedman
On Thu April 13 2006 11:59, Michael Ott wrote: > Hello! > > > Some special keys do not work anymore > > = > > Cannot switch to virtual consoles with Alt-Ctrl-F1 > > > > Dead keys (ˇ) do not work anymore (e.g. for characters like Ž) > > Try this: > setxkbmap -rule

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles - OT

2006-04-13 Thread Kim Christensen
> > That said, I don't use KDE... > > Nor do I -- Fvwm all the way! Ew, graphical user interfaces. (I just had to say that) -- Kim Christensen "This is your life, and it's ending one minute at a time" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? C

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles - OT

2006-04-13 Thread Michael Marsh
On 4/13/06, George Borisov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am I the only one who has managed to upgrade Xorg without anything > breaking (did it earlier this morning)? :-o I haven't had any trouble, but then I haven't tried restarting X in the past several days. I have the appropriate symlink for /e

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles - OT

2006-04-13 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 04:17:21PM +0100, George Borisov wrote: > Am I the only one who has managed to upgrade Xorg without anything > breaking (did it earlier this morning)? :-o It upgraded swimmingly on my box. I'm not doing anything strange with my configuration, though. > That said, I don't

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-13 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 01:36:00PM +0200, ???ek Kry?tof wrote: > I agree, but only partially. > > look - STABLE is too outdated for desktop, TESTING is often broken more than > unstable (mainly missing dependancies or completely missing apps (e.g. K3b > was absent from testing for many months!))

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles - OT

2006-04-13 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:17:21 +0100 George Borisov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am I the only one who has managed to upgrade Xorg without anything > breaking (did it earlier this morning)? :-o > > That said, I don't use KDE... > > -- > George Borisov > > DXSolutions Ltd > > > Possibly. I don

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-13 Thread Michael Ott
Hello! > Some special keys do not work anymore > = > Cannot switch to virtual consoles with Alt-Ctrl-F1 > > Dead keys (ˇ) do not work anymore (e.g. for characters like Ž) Try this: setxkbmap -rules "xorg" -model "pc105" -layout "de" This worked for me. After t

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-13 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 13 Apr 2006, George Borisov wrote: > David Purton wrote: > > > > x-cursor-theme is no longer respected by xorg. You get the default X > > cursors no matter what. > > Quoted from a post earlier today: > > --- > > The easiest way to work around this seems to be creating a symlink in > ~/.icons

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles - OT

2006-04-13 Thread George Borisov
Am I the only one who has managed to upgrade Xorg without anything breaking (did it earlier this morning)? :-o That said, I don't use KDE... -- George Borisov DXSolutions Ltd signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-13 Thread Kenward Vaughan
sage- > > From: Joey Hess [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:41 PM > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Subject: Re: Xorg upgrade troubles > > > > ?á?ek Kry?tof wrote: > > > Well, this transition could have been pre

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-13 Thread S. M. Ibrahim
On Thursday 13 April 2006 20:40, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > I also upgraded sid. > I didn't face any problem with x or kdm or keyboard > You will face this if you make a dist-upgrade toady. -- S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) HomePage: http://lavluda.tripod.com Blog: http://lavluda.blogspot.com Cute Picture: http:

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-13 Thread L . V . Gandhi
I also upgraded sid. I didn't face any problem with x or kdm or keyboard On 4/13/06, Žáček Kryštof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > X did not start > == > The symbolic link /etc/X11/X was wrongly set to /bin/true > Should be set to /usr/bin/X11/Xorg for me it was lvgdell600m:/etc/X11# ls -l /

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-13 Thread George Borisov
David Purton wrote: > > x-cursor-theme is no longer respected by xorg. You get the default X > cursors no matter what. Quoted from a post earlier today: --- The easiest way to work around this seems to be creating a symlink in ~/.icons of your regular user: $ mkdir ~/.icons # if it does not ex

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-13 Thread David Purton
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 12:06:00PM +0200, Žáček Kryštof wrote: > Well, this transition could have been prepared better - testing stuff > in such state on human beings is not ethical. Well, it worked. Look at all the errors you found :) I can add to them though... x-cursor-theme is no longer resp

RE: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-13 Thread Žáček Kryštof
the released Xorg 7 package belongs still to experimental. > -Original Message- > From: Joey Hess [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:41 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Xorg upgrade troubles > > Žáček Kryštof wrote: >

Re: Xorg upgrade troubles

2006-04-13 Thread Joey Hess
Žáček Kryštof wrote: > Well, this transition could have been prepared better - testing stuff > in such state on human beings is not ethical. People running unstable are expected and required to be able to do the following: * Deal with minor breakages. * Report bug reports when things break.