Re: LVM RAID5 with missing disk?

2014-12-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Bob Proulx a écrit : > > Do you have any articles or blogs or postings you have written that > > would summarize raid alternatives? I would enjoy reading whatever you > > have written on the subject. Or if you recommended other references. > > There is no need to write a

Re: LVM RAID5 with missing disk?

2014-12-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Bob Proulx a écrit : > > Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> Bob Proulx a écrit : >>> I favor RAID6's extra redundancy for more safety but I >>> still use RAID1 too. >> RAID 1 can provide as much or more redundancy than RAID 6. >> RAID 1 on 3 disks provides as much redundancy as RAID 6. >> RAID 1 on 4 disks

Re: LVM RAID5 with missing disk?

2014-12-09 Thread Bob Proulx
Hello Pascal, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Bob Proulx a écrit : > > I favor RAID6's extra redundancy for more safety but I > > still use RAID1 too. > > RAID 1 can provide as much or more redundancy than RAID 6. > RAID 1 on 3 disks provides as much redundancy as RAID 6. > RAID 1 on 4 disks provides mo

Re: LVM RAID5 with missing disk?

2014-12-09 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Bob Proulx a écrit : > > I favor RAID6's extra redundancy for more safety but I > still use RAID1 too. RAID 1 can provide as much or more redundancy than RAID 6. RAID 1 on 3 disks provides as much redundancy as RAID 6. RAID 1 on 4 disks provides more redundancy than RAID 6 (but half the usable sp

Re: LVM RAID5 with missing disk?

2014-12-08 Thread Bob Proulx
Gary Dale wrote: > Mart van de Wege wrote: > > The problem is not that RAID5 does not provide resilience against a > > single disk failure. The problem is that with modern disk capacities, > > the chances of *another* disk failing while the array is rebuilding have &g

Re: LVM RAID5 with missing disk?

2014-12-07 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Gary Dale a écrit : > On 05/12/14 03:35 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> > You can think of the RAID algorithms as parity checks. A mirror is even > parity. This point of view is a bit twisted, but I can understand and won't argue. > While the disks are not physically assigned to be data or > pari

Re: LVM RAID5 with missing disk?

2014-12-05 Thread Gary Dale
On 05/12/14 03:35 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Hello, Some mistakes in what you wrote. Gary Dale a écrit : RAID 1 and RAID 5 are both immune to single disk failures in their most common configurations (1 or more data disks with 1 parity disk). RAID 10 is also immune to single disk failure but us

Re: LVM RAID5 with missing disk?

2014-12-05 Thread Ric Moore
On 12/05/2014 03:35 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Linux can use a special RAID 10 mode (mirror+stripe) with two or three disks. with 6 disks, RAID 6 will give you double the capacity of 4 disks or get you immunity to 3 disks failing. RAID 6 can survive 2 disk failures regarless of the number of

Re: LVM RAID5 with missing disk?

2014-12-05 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Hello, Some mistakes in what you wrote. Gary Dale a écrit : > > RAID 1 and RAID 5 are both immune to single disk > failures in their most common configurations (1 or more data disks with > 1 parity disk). RAID 10 is also immune to single disk failure but uses > half the disks for parity. RAID

Re: LVM RAID5 with missing disk?

2014-12-05 Thread Gary Dale
On 05/12/14 05:01 AM, Mart van de Wege wrote: Gary Dale writes: On 04/12/14 12:51 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 02:13:59PM +0100, mad wrote: Hi! I wanted to create a RAID5 with lvm. The basic setup is something like lvcreate --type raid5 -i 2 -L 1G -n my_lv my_vg which

Re: LVM RAID5 with missing disk?

2014-12-05 Thread Mart van de Wege
Gary Dale writes: > On 04/12/14 12:51 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 02:13:59PM +0100, mad wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> I wanted to create a RAID5 with lvm. The basic setup is something like >>> >>> lvcreate --type raid5 -i 2 -L

Re: LVM RAID5 with missing disk?

2014-12-04 Thread Gary Dale
On 04/12/14 12:51 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 02:13:59PM +0100, mad wrote: Hi! I wanted to create a RAID5 with lvm. The basic setup is something like lvcreate --type raid5 -i 2 -L 1G -n my_lv my_vg which would mean 3 physical drives would be used in this RAID5. But can I

Re: LVM RAID5 with missing disk?

2014-12-04 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 02:13:59PM +0100, mad wrote: > Hi! > > I wanted to create a RAID5 with lvm. The basic setup is something like > > lvcreate --type raid5 -i 2 -L 1G -n my_lv my_vg > > which would mean 3 physical drives would be used in this RAID5. But can > I s

LVM RAID5 with missing disk?

2014-12-04 Thread mad
Hi! I wanted to create a RAID5 with lvm. The basic setup is something like lvcreate --type raid5 -i 2 -L 1G -n my_lv my_vg which would mean 3 physical drives would be used in this RAID5. But can I specify that one drive is missing as it is possible with mdadm? TIA mad -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: RAID5 failure; possible to repair?

2012-04-18 Thread Ramon Hofer
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:03:04 +0200, Daniel Koch wrote: >- Zero all the superblocks on all the disks. (mdadm --zero-superblock >/dev/sd{b..d}) >- Recreate the array with the "--assume-clean" option. (mdadm >--create --verbose /dev/md0 --auto=yes --assume-clean --level=5 >--raid-

Re: RAID5 failure; possible to repair?

2012-04-18 Thread Daniel Koch
- Zero all the superblocks on all the disks. (mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sd{b..d}) - Recreate the array with the "--assume-clean" option. (mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --auto=yes --assume-clean --level=5 --raid-devices=3 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdd) - Mark it possibly dirty

RAID5 failure; possible to repair?

2012-04-18 Thread Ramon Hofer
Hi all I have a home server with a raid5. After switching to a new case my graphics card died and I replaced it with an old but very powerful card just to try things. Unfortunately the PSU wasn't strong enough and there were some crashes. I could fix the problems of the other disks but

growing md-raid5 with a larger disk then others are

2012-04-16 Thread Daniel Koch
Hey there, I want to grow my md-raid5 which has 4 Disks each 1,5TB. I have a disk here which is 2,0TB and i need to know if it is save to do that. I know if i am using a 2,0TB disk it would appear as 1,5TB. Anybody did that before ? Something have an eye on ? Thank you for your help

Re: Squeeze: Create LVM from 2x raid5 + 12x 2TB disks

2011-11-01 Thread Dan Ritter
On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 12:45:33PM +0100, Denny Schierz wrote: > With raid5 22TB, which seems to be better ... > > But, what is the best? > > To create only one big MD is something bad, I think. > > On FreeBSD I have with ZFS and 2 x raidz round about 21TB. > > an

Re: Squeeze: Create LVM from 2x raid5 + 12x 2TB disks

2011-11-01 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
you will have 20TB RAID 5 array or you can build 22TB RAID 5 array without a spare drive. md8 : active raid5 sdm1[6] sdn1[5](S) sdl1[3] sdk1[2] sdj1[1] sdi1[0] 7814051840 blocks super 1.2 level 5, 512k chunk, algorithm 2 [5/4] [_] [>] recovery = 4.1%

Squeeze: Create LVM from 2x raid5 + 12x 2TB disks

2011-11-01 Thread Denny Schierz
/ 2097152 bytes Disk identifier: 0x Only 8TB ... md8 : active raid5 sdm1[6] sdn1[5](S) sdl1[3] sdk1[2] sdj1[1] sdi1[0] 7814051840 blocks super 1.2 level 5, 512k chunk, algorithm 2 [5/4] [_] [>] recovery = 4.1% (80504380/1953512960) finish=330.3min speed=

Re: Cannot create raid5 with 4 disks corectly

2010-12-04 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello there, On Sat, Dec 04, 2010 at 01:56:36PM +0100, Reiner Buehl wrote: > I would like to create another RAID5 array consisting of 4 2TB > disks. When creating the array with > > /sbin/mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md5 --level=5 > --raid-devices=4 /dev/sdm1 /dev/sdn1 /dev

Cannot create raid5 with 4 disks corectly

2010-12-04 Thread Reiner Buehl
Hi all, on my Debian Lenny system (with latest updates), I have the following problem: I would like to create another RAID5 array consisting of 4 2TB disks. When creating the array with /sbin/mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md5 --level=5 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sdm1 /dev/sdn1 /dev/sdo1

Re: RAID5 on S5000PSL ServerBoard

2010-06-15 Thread Stan Hoeppner
cool name put forth on 6/15/2010 9:47 AM: > Mike Bird-2 wrote: >> >> Do you really want to use hardware RAID? Note that if your hardware RAID >> controller dies, you're going to need a compatible replacement or you'll >> lose all of your data. > utter bullshit. Is it true that not EVERY replace

Re: RAID5 on S5000PSL ServerBoard

2010-06-15 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 15 June 2010 09:47:11 cool name wrote: > Mike Bird-2 wrote: > > Do you really want to use hardware RAID? Note that if your hardware RAID > > controller dies, you're going to need a compatible replacement or you'll > > lose all of your data. > > utter bullshit. Is it true that not EVERY

Re: RAID5 on S5000PSL ServerBoard

2010-06-15 Thread cool name
ler will do the job but most out there will, RAID is standardized, you know only if you use proprietary RAID-version you'll be fucked up, anything else will be most likely fine. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/RAID5-on-S5000PSL-ServerBoard-tp11506551p288922

Re: debian on a raid5 (4TB) issues

2010-04-17 Thread Alexander Samad
Hi just picked up a 51645 adaptec - having some problems with the gui can't login and if I try and boot of the adaptec lun it crashed grub - magic failed. A On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:57:51 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > > Camaleón put forth on

Re: debian on a raid5 (4TB) issues

2010-04-17 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:57:51 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Camaleón put forth on 4/17/2010 3:12 AM: >> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:24:20 +0200, Israel Garcia wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> What PCIe RAID card are you using? >>> Adaptec AAC-RAID card inside

Re: debian on a raid5 (4TB) issues

2010-04-17 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Camaleón put forth on 4/17/2010 3:12 AM: > On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:24:20 +0200, Israel Garcia wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >>> What PCIe RAID card are you using? >> Adaptec AAC-RAID card inside a supermicro server. Which Apaptec model, specifically? Some of

Re: debian on a raid5 (4TB) issues

2010-04-17 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:24:20 +0200, Israel Garcia wrote: > On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> What PCIe RAID card are you using? > Adaptec AAC-RAID card inside a supermicro server. I wish you the best (similar setup here and bad experience with adaptec raid cards) :-( As

Re: debian on a raid5 (4TB) issues

2010-04-16 Thread Israel Garcia
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Israel Garcia put forth on 4/16/2010 11:11 AM: >> Hi, maybe OT but, I\m trying to install debian lenny on a raid5 with >> 4TB. OS sees one big sda with 4TB, I can particion /boot, / and swap >> but it only recognize

Re: debian on a raid5 (4TB) issues

2010-04-16 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Israel Garcia put forth on 4/16/2010 11:11 AM: > Hi, maybe OT but, I\m trying to install debian lenny on a raid5 with > 4TB. OS sees one big sda with 4TB, I can particion /boot, / and swap > but it only recognize 78GB instead the 4TB available. Is this because > the partition in boot

Re: debian on a raid5 (4TB) issues

2010-04-16 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 03:34:36 +1000, Tim Clewlow wrote: >> Hi, maybe OT but, I\m trying to install debian lenny on a raid5 with >> 4TB. OS sees one big sda with 4TB, I can particion /boot, / and swap >> but it only recognize 78GB instead the 4TB available. Is this because &

Re: debian on a raid5 (4TB) issues

2010-04-16 Thread Tim Clewlow
> Hi, maybe OT but, I\m trying to install debian lenny on a raid5 with > 4TB. OS sees one big sda with 4TB, I can particion /boot, / and swap > but it only recognize 78GB instead the 4TB available. Is this > because > the partition in booteable? Can I install debian OS on this hdd

debian on a raid5 (4TB) issues

2010-04-16 Thread Israel Garcia
Hi, maybe OT but, I\m trying to install debian lenny on a raid5 with 4TB. OS sees one big sda with 4TB, I can particion /boot, / and swap but it only recognize 78GB instead the 4TB available. Is this because the partition in booteable? Can I install debian OS on this hdd with these 3 partitions

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation (there are two of us)

2009-04-30 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [2009.04.30.1925 +0200]: > Where can I read about that, before I freak out needlesly? :-) In the ANNOUNCE files and the upstream changelog, both of which are not included in the Debian package by result of some weird chain of events. Try http://git.de

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation (there are two of us)

2009-04-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [2009.04.30.1615 > +0200]: > > 1.0 superblocks are widely used. Please don't do that. Either > > implement support for both, or use mdadm (which knows both). > > > > This kind of stuff really should not be do

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation (there are two of us)

2009-04-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > He who codes, decides. Either put forth the effort to > design/write/review/test/apply the patch or don't be surprised if your > preferences are not highly weighted in the resulting code. Will lvm upstream take something that makes lvm align

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation (there are two of us)

2009-04-30 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20090430141527.gc28...@khazad-dum.debian.net>, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: >On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> In <20090429192819.gb1...@khazad-dum.debian.net>, Henrique de Moraes >> Holschuh wrote: >> >On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, martin f krafft wrote: >> >> One should thus

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation (there are two of us)

2009-04-30 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [2009.04.30.1615 +0200]: > 1.0 superblocks are widely used. Please don't do that. Either > implement support for both, or use mdadm (which knows both). > > This kind of stuff really should not be done halfway, it can > suprise someone into a dataloss sce

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation (there are two of us)

2009-04-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In <20090429192819.gb1...@khazad-dum.debian.net>, Henrique de Moraes > Holschuh wrote: > >On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, martin f krafft wrote: > >> also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [2009.04.29.1522 > +0200]: > >> > As always, you MUST forbid lvm

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation (there are two of us)

2009-04-29 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20090429192819.gb1...@khazad-dum.debian.net>, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: >On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, martin f krafft wrote: >> also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [2009.04.29.1522 +0200]: >> > As always, you MUST forbid lvm of ever touching md component >> > devices even if md is offli

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation (there are two of us)

2009-04-29 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [2009.04.29.1522 > +0200]: > > As always, you MUST forbid lvm of ever touching md component > > devices even if md is offline, and that includes whatever crap is > > inside initrds... > > One should thus fix LV

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation (there are two of us)

2009-04-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach martin f krafft [2009.04.29.1847 +0200]: > Absolutely. I've put Neil Brown, upstream mdadm on Bcc so he can > pitch in if this is something he'd implement or accept patches for. On second thought, there *is* the sysfs interface, but I don't think it exposes md-specific information unl

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation (there are two of us)

2009-04-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [2009.04.29.1808 +0200]: > I'm down with LVM running something like: > mdadm --has-superblock /dev/block/device > for devices that have a PV header and refusing to automatically treat them > as PVs if it returns success, as long as it doesn't affect md-on-LVM.

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation (there are two of us)

2009-04-29 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20090429141142.ga19...@piper.oerlikon.madduck.net>, martin f krafft wrote: >also sprach Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [2009.04.29.1557 +0200]: >> >One should thus fix LVM to be a bit more careful... >> >> LVM allows you to strictly limit what devices it scans for PV headers. > >That's not enough; L

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation (there are two of us)

2009-04-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [2009.04.29.1557 +0200]: > >One should thus fix LVM to be a bit more careful... > > LVM allows you to strictly limit what devices it scans for PV headers. That's not enough; LVM knows that md exists, and LVM-on-md is about 99.8% of the sane use-cases, so L

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation (there are two of us)

2009-04-29 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20090429134916.gb17...@piper.oerlikon.madduck.net>, martin f krafft wrote: >also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [2009.04.29.1522 +0200]: >> As always, you MUST forbid lvm of ever touching md component >> devices even if md is offline, and that includes whatever crap is >> inside initrds..

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation (there are two of us)

2009-04-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [2009.04.29.1522 +0200]: > As always, you MUST forbid lvm of ever touching md component > devices even if md is offline, and that includes whatever crap is > inside initrds... One should thus fix LVM to be a bit more careful... -- .''`. martin f. kraf

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation (there are two of us)

2009-04-29 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Alex Samad wrote: > > Learned my lesson though - no real reason to have root on lvm - it's now > > on 3-disk RAID 1. > > all ways thought this, KISS Exactly. I have servers with 4, sometimes 6-disk RAID1 root partitions, because of KISS: all disks in the raid set should be

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation (there are two of us)

2009-04-20 Thread Miles Fidelman
Alex Samad wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 08:03:38PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: I just got badly bit by this. I had root on lvm on md (RAID 1). After one of the component drives died, lvm came back up on top of the other component drive - during boot from initrd - making it impossible

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation (there are two of us)

2009-04-20 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 08:03:38PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Alex Samad wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 08:26:21PM +0100, Seri wrote: >> >>> Hoping somebody might be able to provide me with some pointers that >>> may just help me recover a lot of data, a home system with no backups >>> bu

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation (there are two of us)

2009-04-20 Thread Miles Fidelman
Alex Samad wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 08:26:21PM +0100, Seri wrote: Hoping somebody might be able to provide me with some pointers that may just help me recover a lot of data, a home system with no backups but a lot of photos, yes I know the admin rule, backup backup backup, but I ran out

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation (there are two of us)

2009-04-20 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 08:26:21PM +0100, Seri wrote: > Hoping somebody might be able to provide me with some pointers that > may just help me recover a lot of data, a home system with no backups > but a lot of photos, yes I know the admin rule, backup backup backup, > but I ran out of backup space

RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation (there are two of us)

2009-04-20 Thread Seri
md0 devices=/dev/sdb,/dev/sdc,/dev/sdd,/dev/sde) The next morning when I woke up mdadm had worked its magic and I had a bigger RAID5 set, I use whole drives so I don't partition them first, I'm hoping this isn't my first mistake. I also run LVM2 ontop of my RAID5 set so I then issued

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation

2009-01-18 Thread whollygoat
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:44:11 +1100, "Alex Samad" said: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 07:45:24PM -0800, whollyg...@letterboxes.org > wrote: > > > > I wonder if that would have helped with the larger drives. Too late:) > > The smaller drives shouldn't have been bad. All I did to them was fail > >

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation

2009-01-15 Thread Alex Samad
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 07:45:24PM -0800, whollyg...@letterboxes.org wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:07:37 +1100, "Alex Samad" > said: > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 07:46:08PM -0800, whollyg...@letterboxes.org > > wrote: > > > [snip] > > I wonder if that would have helped with the larger drives.

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation

2009-01-14 Thread whollygoat
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:07:37 +1100, "Alex Samad" said: > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 07:46:08PM -0800, whollyg...@letterboxes.org > wrote: > > > > On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:45:56 +, "John Robinson" > > said: > > > On 09/01/2009 02:41, whollyg...@letterboxes.org wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > But, t

Re: Alex Samad Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation

2009-01-12 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 07:46:08PM -0800, whollyg...@letterboxes.org wrote: > > On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:45:56 +, "John Robinson" > said: > > On 09/01/2009 02:41, whollyg...@letterboxes.org wrote: [snip] > > But, this has all become moot anyway. When I put the original, smaller > drives bac

Re: Alex Samad Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation

2009-01-12 Thread whollygoat
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:45:56 +, "John Robinson" said: > On 09/01/2009 02:41, whollyg...@letterboxes.org wrote: > > But anyway, I don't think that is going to matter. The issue I am > > trying to > > solve is how to de-activate the bitmap. It was suggested on the > > linux-raid > > list tha

Re: Alex Samad Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation

2009-01-09 Thread John Robinson
On 09/01/2009 02:41, whollyg...@letterboxes.org wrote: But anyway, I don't think that is going to matter. The issue I am trying to solve is how to de-activate the bitmap. It was suggested on the linux-raid list that my problem may have been caused by running the grow op on an active bitmap an

Re: Alex Samad Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation

2009-01-08 Thread whollygoat
t; > mdadm -S /dev/md/0 > > > > [snip] > > > > > Hope you can help, > > Hi > > I have grown raid5 arrays either by disk number or disk size, I have > only ever used --grow and never used the -z option > > I would re copy the info over fro

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation

2009-01-08 Thread Alex Samad
which seems to disassemble > the array. Maybe this is because I've only tried it on the degraded > array this problem has left with. At any rate, after > > mdadm -S /dev/md/0 > [snip] > > Hope you can help, Hi I have grown raid5 arrays either by disk number or

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation

2009-01-07 Thread whollygoat
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:17:46 +1100, "Neil Brown" said: > On Monday January 5, jpis...@lucidpixels.com wrote: > > cc linux-raid > > > > On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, whollyg...@letterboxes.org wrote: > > > > > [snip] > > > The RAID reassembled fine at each boot as the drives > > > were replaced one by o

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation

2009-01-06 Thread whollygoat
;. I seems to me I couldn't do anything with the array until it was activated. Hmm, just noticed something else that seems weird. There seem to be 10 and 11 place holders (3 drives each) in the "Array Slot" field below which is respectively 4 and 5 more places than there are dri

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation

2009-01-05 Thread Neil Brown
On Monday January 5, jpis...@lucidpixels.com wrote: > cc linux-raid > > On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, whollyg...@letterboxes.org wrote: > > > I think growing my RAID array after replacing all the > > drives with bigger ones has somehow hosed the array. > > > > The system is Etch with a stock 2.6.18 kernel

Re: RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation

2009-01-05 Thread Justin Piszcz
cc linux-raid On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, whollyg...@letterboxes.org wrote: I think growing my RAID array after replacing all the drives with bigger ones has somehow hosed the array. The system is Etch with a stock 2.6.18 kernel and mdadm v. 2.5.6, running on an Athlon 1700 box. The array is 6 disk (5

RAID5 (mdadm) array hosed after grow operation

2009-01-05 Thread whollygoat
I think growing my RAID array after replacing all the drives with bigger ones has somehow hosed the array. The system is Etch with a stock 2.6.18 kernel and mdadm v. 2.5.6, running on an Athlon 1700 box. The array is 6 disk (5 active, one spare) RAID 5 that has been humming along quite nicely f

Re: mdadm raid5 giving me heartburn.....

2008-09-14 Thread Michael Habashy
rote: >> On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:39:47PM -0400, Michael Habashy wrote: >>> the current state of my system -- it is up and running but i do not >>> belive for long: >>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /proc/mdstat >>> Personalities : [raid1] [raid6]

Re: mdadm raid5 giving me heartburn.....

2008-09-14 Thread Michael Habashy
/mdstat >> Personalities : [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] >> md1 : active raid5 sda5[3](F) sdb5[4](F) sdd5[2] sdc5[1] >> 781417344 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [3/2] [_UU] >> >> md2 : active raid1 sda6[0] >> 9767424 blocks [2/1] [

Re: mdadm raid5 giving me heartburn.....

2008-09-14 Thread Alex Samad
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:39:47PM -0400, Michael Habashy wrote: > the current state of my system -- it is up and running but i do not > belive for long: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /proc/mdstat > Personalities : [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] > md1 : active raid5 sda5[3](F)

Re: RAID5 problem.

2008-06-23 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:30:32PM -0400, Matt Gracie wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Alex Samad wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 12:28:03PM -0400, Matt Gracie wrote: > > > >> [snip] [snip] > mogwai:~# uname -a > Linux mogwai 2.6.25-2-686 #1 SMP Tue May 27 15:38:35

Re: RAID5 problem.

2008-06-23 Thread Matt Gracie
failure. > >> sounds like you have done all the things I would have done. > >> can you post a cat /proc/mdstat mogwai:~# cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] md0 : active raid5 sdb1[0] sdc1[2] sda1[1] 732587712 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorith

Re: RAID5 problem.

2008-06-22 Thread Alex Samad
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 12:28:03PM -0400, Matt Gracie wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > [snip] > > The problem is that when I tried, using "mdadm /dev/md0 --add > /dev/sdd1", the rebuild would kick off and then fail after a short time, > marking all four drives as fault

RAID5 problem.

2008-06-22 Thread Matt Gracie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 For quite a while now, I've been running a software RAID5 using external firewire disks on a Debian Unstable system. The exact architecture was four 250 GB disks on one firewire controller, for a total of 750 GB of usable space. Last night, w

Re: software raid5 array degrades from initrd

2008-05-04 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 12:59:52AM +0200, Dexter Filmore wrote: > Am Freitag, 2. Mai 2008 22:47:07 schrieb Alex Samad: > > On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 02:45:04PM +0200, Dexter Filmore wrote: > > > So here's the story: > > > > [snip] > > > > > another thing you can try is entering busybox during the in

Re: software raid5 array degrades from initrd

2008-05-04 Thread Dexter Filmore
Am Freitag, 2. Mai 2008 22:47:07 schrieb Alex Samad: > On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 02:45:04PM +0200, Dexter Filmore wrote: > > So here's the story: > > [snip] > > > Now: what's going on here? both onboard 3114 and pci 3114 controllers are > > handled by the same kernel module, so either initrd sees all

Re: software raid5 array degrades from initrd

2008-05-04 Thread Dexter Filmore
Am Sonntag, 4. Mai 2008 14:49:19 schrieb martin f krafft: > also sprach Dexter Filmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.05.03.1723 +0100]: > > initrd has its own log...? > > No, it just prints to the console. > > I suggest you add break=bottom to the kernel command line (and > remove the raid=noautodetect

Re: software raid5 array degrades from initrd

2008-05-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Dexter Filmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.05.03.1723 +0100]: > initrd has its own log...? No, it just prints to the console. I suggest you add break=bottom to the kernel command line (and remove the raid=noautodetect, which you don't need) and then reboot, inspect the console output an

Re: software raid5 array degrades from initrd

2008-05-02 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 02:45:04PM +0200, Dexter Filmore wrote: > So here's the story: [snip] > Now: what's going on here? both onboard 3114 and pci 3114 controllers are > handled by the same kernel module, so either initrd sees all or none. > Why would it not wanna see the 5th disk from initrd,

Re: software raid5 array degrades from initrd

2008-05-02 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Dexter Filmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.05.02.1345 +0100]: > Two resyncs later I decided to reconf mdadm to *not* start from > the initrd and not auto-assemble at boot time. I then assembled > the array manually and tadaa, all fine, array works and is synced. > > Now: what's going on

software raid5 array degrades from initrd

2008-05-02 Thread Dexter Filmore
So here's the story: Software raid5 on debian etch with 2.6.22 kernel from backports. Hardware: Asus K8N-E Deluxe, nForce3/250Gb chipset. Has: 2 sATA ports from the nF3 (sata_nv) 4 sATA ports from an onboard Silicon Image 3114 (sata_sil) 4 sATA ports from an PCI controller, Silicon Image

Re: Advice: Hardware vs. Software RAID5

2008-01-23 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-01-17 02:15:55, schrieb Scott Gifford: > Also, some hardware RAID systems require the system to be offline to > do a rebuild, which is less than ideal. Never had such Hardware-Raids... Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consult

RAID5 in three easy steps

2008-01-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You know, after reading all the howtos and such, I created a RAID 5 array with just three commands (after creating the partitions with fdisk) mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sda1 /dev/ sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 mkfs.ext3 /dev/md0 /usr/share/mdadm/mkconf > /etc/mdadm/mdadm.co

Re: Advice: Hardware vs. Software RAID5

2008-01-16 Thread Scott Gifford
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] > The motherboard I'm using is an intel d945gnt. It has an intel Martix > driver that will let me do RAID 5 in the bios. Then, linux should see > one big whopping device. That sounds like the easiest solution to me. > > Option two is to use linux software RAID.

Re: Advice: Hardware vs. Software RAID5

2008-01-16 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 09:28:30AM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote: > On Jan 15, 2008, at 6:14 PM, Gregory Seidman wrote: > >On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 03:40:15PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>On Jan 15, 9:10 am, Gregory Seidman >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>I have an existing setup that uses fo

Re: Advice: Hardware vs. Software RAID5

2008-01-16 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jan 15, 2008, at 6:14 PM, Gregory Seidman wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 03:40:15PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 15, 9:10 am, Gregory Seidman wrote: anything that kills your motherboard (short circuit in the memory, CPU overheating, etc.) also takes out your RAID controller. T

Re: Advice: Hardware vs. Software RAID5

2008-01-15 Thread Alex Samad
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:14:26PM -0500, Gregory Seidman wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 03:40:15PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Jan 15, 9:10 am, Gregory Seidman > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > anything that > > > kills your motherboard (short circuit in the memory, CPU overheating,

Re: Advice: Hardware vs. Software RAID5

2008-01-15 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 03:40:15PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Jan 15, 9:10 am, Gregory Seidman [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > anything that > > kills your motherboard (short circuit in the memory, CPU overheating, etc.) > > also takes out your RAID controller. To be able to access your d

Re: Advice: Hardware vs. Software RAID5

2008-01-15 Thread tofu . oni
On Jan 15, 9:10 am, Gregory Seidman wrote: > anything that > kills your motherboard (short circuit in the memory, CPU overheating, etc.) > also takes out your RAID controller. To be able to access your data you'll > need the same RAID controller doh! I hadn't thought of that. Thanks. Software

Re: Advice: Hardware vs. Software RAID5

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 06:24:52AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm looking for general advice/tips/admonitions of doom. I'm getting > ready to build a file server and I want to have some data redundancy. > I've ordered four 350G SATA drives and I plan to put them into some > kind of RAID 5 c

Re: Advice: Hardware vs. Software RAID5

2008-01-15 Thread Gregory Seidman
re failure out of the equation. Anyway, that's my justification for using software RAID. Incidentally, you might consider RAID10 instead of RAID5, depending on how much disk space you are willing to trade for reliability. RAID5 with four 350GB disks gives you 1050GB of space and the abi

Advice: Hardware vs. Software RAID5

2008-01-15 Thread tofu . oni
I'm looking for general advice/tips/admonitions of doom. I'm getting ready to build a file server and I want to have some data redundancy. I've ordered four 350G SATA drives and I plan to put them into some kind of RAID 5 configuration. The boot disk will be a separate IDE drive. The motherboard

Re: Migrating raid5 to raid 1

2007-10-15 Thread Alex Samad
id1. > ^^ do you mean two? yep > > > > I could remove one of the 200G drive - run the raid5 in degraded mode and > > create a raid1 in degraded mode. > > > > I also use lvm2, so moving most of it should be easy ? > > > > I don't have any media t

Re: Migrating raid5 to raid 1

2007-10-15 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 01:43:42PM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: > > I have a system with 3 x 200G setup as a raid 5 config, I have just purchased > to 750g drives with the thought of using raid1. ^^ do you mean two? > > I could remove one of the 200G drive - run the raid5 in de

Migrating raid5 to raid 1

2007-10-14 Thread Alex Samad
Hi I have a system with 3 x 200G setup as a raid 5 config, I have just purchased to 750g drives with the thought of using raid1. I could remove one of the 200G drive - run the raid5 in degraded mode and create a raid1 in degraded mode. I also use lvm2, so moving most of it should be easy ? I

Re: Mdadm won't rebuild a RAID5

2007-08-20 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.08.21.0003 +0200]: >Any suggestions or warnings from others so I can make sure this doens't >happen again are appreciated. Remember, the two drives I've already >removed that mdadm had said were bad have tested out as fine. I suspect >

Re: Mdadm won't rebuild a RAID5

2007-08-20 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 20 August 2007, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.08.20.2114 +0200]: > > It did on the first failure. Then another failed and I turned the > > machine off. When I got 2 more drives, I put them in and it > > rebuilt the array using 3 of the drives

Re: Mdadm won't rebuild a RAID5

2007-08-20 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.08.20.2114 +0200]: > It did on the first failure. Then another failed and I turned the > machine off. When I got 2 more drives, I put them in and it rebuilt > the array using 3 of the drives with one as a spare. Then when it > failed this time

Re: Mdadm won't rebuild a RAID5

2007-08-20 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 20 August 2007, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.08.20.2022 +0200]: > > In this case, I had 4 drives, so if one failed, then the spare > > should have been added but that hadn't happened. > > I thought your original email said it did resync the s

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