Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-15 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:22:04 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 03:58:55PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:32:10 +0200, maderios wrote: >> > This new Gimp's behaviour is not a bug but a (weird) developper's >> > choice >> >> Developer's choices can be changed

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-15 Thread maderios
On 08/15/2012 12:22 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 03:58:55PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:32:10 +0200, maderios wrote: This new Gimp's behaviour is not a bug but a (weird) developper's choice Developer's choices can be changed when enough people think the

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 03:58:55PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:32:10 +0200, maderios wrote: > > This new Gimp's behaviour is not a bug but a (weird) developper's choice > > Developer's choices can be changed when enough people think they're wrong > or simply badly put. That's

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-14 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 20:59:24 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 03:58:55PM +, Camaleón wrote: > >> Developer's choices can be changed when enough people think they're >> wrong or simply badly put. That's when you can open a "wishlist" bug >> report to politely ask for a rev

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-13 Thread Stephen Allen
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 03:58:55PM +, Camaleón wrote: > Developer's choices can be changed when enough people think they're wrong > or simply badly put. That's when you can open a "wishlist" bug report to > politely ask for a review of the default settings. OpenSource Development isn't a de

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-13 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Mon, 13 Aug 2012 21:04:15 +0200 Ralf Mardorf napísal: > Users are users, we have knowledge about our needs, but we can't keep > track with all random changes regarding to the infrastructure, the > basics, if those changes that hardcore forced. > > For good software like GIMP it's simp

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Tom, you answer is very smart, but it also contains how hard to understand it's for users like me. There are to much changes at the same time. I suspect that nearly no averaged user like me has the time to learn all this new stuff, that quick as perhaps needed. And I still have got doubts that Mr.

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-13 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > However, at the moment Linux comes with one negative surprise after the > other. GNOME3, noveau, forcing people to install systemd dependencies, > while not using systemd (perhaps not Debian) etc.. Upstream is > disconnected from the user ba

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-13 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:32:10 +0200, maderios wrote: > On 08/13/2012 04:18 PM, Camaleón wrote: >> On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 22:44:38 +0200, maderios wrote: >> It's annoying but you will get more results (if any) by reporting it to the right places. >>> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-13 Thread maderios
On 08/13/2012 04:18 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 22:44:38 +0200, maderios wrote: It's annoying but you will get more results (if any) by reporting it to the right places. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2012-August/date.html I meant GNOME's bugzilla where bugs are

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-13 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 22:44:38 +0200, maderios wrote: >> It's annoying but you will get more results (if any) by reporting it to >> the right places. >> >> > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2012-August/date.html I meant GNOME's bugzilla where bugs are triaged and fixed (well, someti

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread maderios
It's annoying but you will get more results (if any) by reporting it to the right places. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2012-August/date.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lis

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 02:19 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 08:30:55PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > For professional artists (music and drawing) Linux breaks the workflow > > Linux hasn't anything todo with this! GIMP is available for Windows as > well. I know, but in th

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:21:35 +0200, maderios wrote: > Hi > I posted this message on the Gimp user list gimp-user-l...@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2012-August/date.html https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2012-August/msg00061.html And you repost here beca

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 08:30:55PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > For professional artists (music and drawing) Linux breaks the workflow Linux hasn't anything todo with this! GIMP is available for Windows as well. http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/gimp-2.8-understanding-ui-changes -- "If y

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-08-12 at 01:40 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 4:35 PM, maderios wrote: > > On 08/11/2012 08:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> > >> The strange thing IMO is, that save and save as are completely the same > >> and we need to use export nowadays. > > > > "Save" and "save as

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-11 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 4:35 PM, maderios wrote: > On 08/11/2012 08:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> >> The strange thing IMO is, that save and save as are completely the same >> and we need to use export nowadays. > > "Save" and "save as" are different > > Save= save the same file (same name) after

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 22:35 +0200, maderios wrote: > On 08/11/2012 08:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > The strange thing IMO is, that save and save as are completely the same > > and we need to use export nowadays. > > > > > "Save" and "save as" are different They should be different, but they are

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-11 Thread maderios
On 08/11/2012 08:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: The strange thing IMO is, that save and save as are completely the same and we need to use export nowadays. "Save" and "save as" are different Save= save the same file (same name) after modifying this file Ex1: I open house.png, I change contrast,

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-11 Thread Gary Dale
On 11/08/12 02:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 20:21 +0200, maderios wrote: Hi I posted this message on the Gimp user list gimp-user-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2012-August/date.html Hi This message is addressed to developers. New Gimp-2.8 woul

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 20:21 +0200, maderios wrote: > Hi > I posted this message on the Gimp user list > gimp-user-l...@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2012-August/date.html > > Hi > This message is addressed to developers. > New Gimp-2.8 would be a good tool but it is u

Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-11 Thread maderios
Hi I posted this message on the Gimp user list gimp-user-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2012-August/date.html Hi This message is addressed to developers. New Gimp-2.8 would be a good tool but it is unusable for me. Example: I use, hundreds of times per hour, the