On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> wrote: > > However, at the moment Linux comes with one negative surprise after the > other. GNOME3, noveau, forcing people to install systemd dependencies, > while not using systemd (perhaps not Debian) etc.. Upstream is > disconnected from the user base.
It's unfortunate that we all conflate GNOME 3 and GNOME Shell - it's probably and understandably intentional on the part of GNOME - because, AIUI, GNOME 3 is a big improvement over GNOME 2 (except, for some, for the requirement of hardware acceleration or LLVM) and GNOME Shell is a disappointment for some/many because of the new UI (not me), for some/many because it shunts off basic functionality into extensions or the use of gconf/dconf/gsettings (definitely for me), and for some/many both. If it were possible to customize GNOME Shell with GUI tools installed by default, there'd be fewer users disappointed by the new UI. I've forgotten why I read some threads on arch-general after you posted in a July d-u thread, but, from what I remember, what you're calling systemd dependencies are "/etc" files proposed by the systemd developers to hold configuration information that used to be held in "/etc/rc.conf" and that the Arch initscripts/systemd maintainer has adopted (without invalidating the rc.conf settings since, for example, setting 'HOSTNAME=<hostname>" in rc.conf overrides setting "<hostname>" in "/etc/hostname"). Whether distributions adopt systemd or not, it's high time that there was some standardization across distributions, for a few things at least. I don't remember the entire list but having the hostname set in "/etc/hostname" (a Debianism by the way), the locale in "/etc/locale.conf", the keyboard map and font in "/etc/vconsole.conf", sysctl values in "/etc/sysctl.d/" (exists in squeeze and wheezy), and distribution information in "/etc/os-release" (exists in wheezy! OMG systemd's creeping into Debian!) is a good thing, irrespective of whether it supplants previous configuration options in "/etc/default/" or elsewhere (or "/etc/rc.conf" in Arch). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SzvAu7HVqYiGu4xU+Q_g4EbScuW9pVXU=j7eviesmp...@mail.gmail.com