Re: Not for me.

2013-03-07 Thread steef
Tom H schreef: On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 1:03 PM, steef wrote: i agree completely with your remarks. i did not mix up in this *discussion* (except only one short remark) when i came back from the gambia because i considered it as completely useless to *talk* to a guy who did not take the trouble

Re: OT: Windows, a command-line OS (Was: Re: Not for me.)

2013-03-07 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Lun 4 mars 2013 23:35, Alois Mahdal a écrit : >> Well, I might be wrong, I'm not an admin... but if one here >> knows how to remove, say, explorer.exe, I would be very happy to learn >> how to [...] > > Maybe a good start: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_shell_replacement I have alre

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-05 Thread Joe
On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 19:39:28 -0600 Yaro Kasear wrote: > > > I hate to rebreak it to you, but *MS-DOS* isn't around anymore. I > believe there are at least two DOS implementations still active. But > that wasn't my point. My point was even "modern" DOS implementations > are woefully obsolete an

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread João Luis Meloni Assirati
, not for me. This list is archived and new Debian users may read your postings and conclude that the GUI installer does not work or has lower quality. In fact, they may think that the whole Debian is low quality because your comments are all derogatory. After being able to install Debian with the

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Doug
On 03/04/2013 09:56 PM, Yaro Kasear wrote: On 03/04/2013 08:48 PM, Doug wrote: On 03/04/2013 09:07 PM, William Ivanski wrote: On 04-03-2013 22:39, Yaro Kasear wrote: When (U)EFI completely replaces BIOS THEN DOS will be completely dead. Right now it's just a horribly obsolete OS used by people

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Miles Fidelman
Yaro Kasear wrote: On 03/04/2013 08:48 PM, Doug wrote: Another program, which I used until I retired in 2002 was EEsof's Touchstone. An extremely expensive RF cad program, it worked with netlist inputs. I'm trying to understand what you're meaning on the Touchstone software... what featu

[OT] Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Miles Fidelman
Doug wrote: If you think that the modern graphical approach is so great, try taking pictures outdoors with one of those nice 2" x 3" LCD displays. Give me an eye-level viewfinder any day!) Oh yes! Miles -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there i

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 03/04/2013 08:48 PM, Doug wrote: On 03/04/2013 09:07 PM, William Ivanski wrote: On 04-03-2013 22:39, Yaro Kasear wrote: When (U)EFI completely replaces BIOS THEN DOS will be completely dead. Right now it's just a horribly obsolete OS used by people afraid of kernels or enterprises that refu

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Doug
On 03/04/2013 09:07 PM, William Ivanski wrote: On 04-03-2013 22:39, Yaro Kasear wrote: When (U)EFI completely replaces BIOS THEN DOS will be completely dead. Right now it's just a horribly obsolete OS used by people afraid of kernels or enterprises that refuse to upgrade some of their infrastr

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 03/04/2013 08:07 PM, William Ivanski wrote: On 04-03-2013 22:39, Yaro Kasear wrote: When (U)EFI completely replaces BIOS THEN DOS will be completely dead. Right now it's just a horribly obsolete OS used by people afraid of kernels or enterprises that refuse to upgrade some of their infrastr

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread William Ivanski
On 04-03-2013 22:39, Yaro Kasear wrote: When (U)EFI completely replaces BIOS THEN DOS will be completely dead. Right now it's just a horribly obsolete OS used by people afraid of kernels or enterprises that refuse to upgrade some of their infrastructure. It's also used by people who, many year

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 03/04/2013 03:26 PM, Joe wrote: On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:54:50 -0600 Yaro Kasear wrote: You can still run a very successful desktop system on Linux without installing Xorg server at any point. The only command line that hasn't modernized even a little bit is DOS. I hate to be the one to br

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Harvey Kelly
On 5 March 2013 00:53, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 10:59:18AM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: > > snip > >> I'd like to leave you with one reflection that may cause pause. If tomorrow >> Debian were to suddenly become twice as popular as it currently is

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 10:59:18AM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: snip > I'd like to leave you with one reflection that may cause pause. If tomorrow > Debian were to suddenly become twice as popular as it currently is, this list > would be flooded by people exactly like

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Joe
On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 12:07:30 +1300 Richard Hector wrote: > On 05/03/13 09:53, Mark Filipak wrote: > > > You snake. I replied to you privately and you published my reply in > > public. > > Agreed on this. Replying to a private email on a public list is bad > form. > > Yes, although this partic

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Joe
On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 22:59:33 +0100 "Morel Bérenger" wrote: > Le Lun 4 mars 2013 22:26, Joe a écrit : > > On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:54:50 -0600 > > Yaro Kasear wrote: > > Mark is wrong, Windows is also a command-line OS. > > Hum... for windows 9x (and Me, and 3.x) ok, since they are based on > MSDOS

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Richard Hector
On 05/03/13 09:53, Mark Filipak wrote: > You snake. I replied to you privately and you published my reply in public. Agreed on this. Replying to a private email on a public list is bad form. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscri

OT: Windows, a command-line OS (Was: Re: Not for me.)

2013-03-04 Thread Alois Mahdal
On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 22:59:33 +0100 ""Morel Bérenger"" wrote: > Le Lun 4 mars 2013 22:26, Joe a écrit : > > On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:54:50 -0600 > > Yaro Kasear wrote: > > Mark is wrong, Windows is also a command-line OS. > > Hum... for windows 9x (and Me, and 3.x) ok, since they are > based on MSD

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Lun 4 mars 2013 22:26, Joe a écrit : > On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:54:50 -0600 > Yaro Kasear wrote: > Mark is wrong, Windows is also a command-line OS. Hum... for windows 9x (and Me, and 3.x) ok, since they are based on MSDOS, but for NT family, there is no way to run it without graphical layer. In

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 1:03 PM, steef wrote: > > i agree completely with your remarks. i did not mix up in this *discussion* > (except only one short remark) when i came back from the gambia because i > considered it as completely useless to *talk* to a guy who did not take the > trouble to read t

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Joe
On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:54:50 -0600 Yaro Kasear wrote: > > You can still run a very successful desktop system on Linux without > installing Xorg server at any point. The only command line that > hasn't modernized even a little bit is DOS. > I hate to be the one to break this to you, but DOS i

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/4 3:44 PM, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Em 04-03-2013 17:09, Mark Filipak escreveu: On 2013/3/4 2:35 PM, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: So you cannot reproduce the bug, right? I didn't try, João Luis. For you, I will. No, not for me. This list is archived and new D

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 03/04/2013 02:44 PM, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Em 04-03-2013 17:09, Mark Filipak escreveu: On 2013/3/4 2:35 PM, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: So you cannot reproduce the bug, right? I didn't try, João Luis. For you, I will. No, not for me. This list is archived and new D

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread João Luis Meloni Assirati
Em 04-03-2013 17:09, Mark Filipak escreveu: On 2013/3/4 2:35 PM, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: So you cannot reproduce the bug, right? I didn't try, João Luis. For you, I will. No, not for me. This list is archived and new Debian users may read your postings and conclude that th

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread João Luis Meloni Assirati
So you cannot reproduce the bug, right? Em 04-03-2013 12:59, Mark Filipak escreveu: Thank you all. I've learned a lot here. I did manage to get Debian installed, though it was through a side door that was opened by Debian Live. I'm grateful for that. I will continue to look for a Linux with wh

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread steef
Yaro Kasear schreef: On 03/04/2013 09:59 AM, Mark Filipak wrote: Thank you all. I've learned a lot here. I did manage to get Debian installed, though it was through a side door that was opened by Debian Live. I'm grateful for that. I will continue to look for a Linux with which I can live. In

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 03/04/2013 09:59 AM, Mark Filipak wrote: Thank you all. I've learned a lot here. I did manage to get Debian installed, though it was through a side door that was opened by Debian Live. I'm grateful for that. I will continue to look for a Linux with which I can live. In private messages wi

Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Mark Filipak
Thank you all. I've learned a lot here. I did manage to get Debian installed, though it was through a side door that was opened by Debian Live. I'm grateful for that. I will continue to look for a Linux with which I can live. In private messages with some list members I advocated for focus test

Re: Debian is not for me

2000-12-14 Thread Clayton Stapleton
Thanks for the warning about adding myself to the group disk. And have removed myself from disk. And then changed the group from disk to audio for /dev/hdd. I was already a user of audio. Sound is still playing fine. Clay On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, you wrote: > [quotations reordered] > > > > Then, make

Re: Debian is not for me

2000-12-14 Thread Wayne Topa
Subject: Debian is not for me Date: Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 08:38:19AM -0700 In reply to:Clayton Stapleton Quoting Clayton Stapleton([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Yes! Debian is not for me. It does not recognize my sound card even though > two other OS do (Win98 and SuSe6.4), that

Re: Debian is not for me

2000-12-14 Thread David Wright
[quotations reordered] > > Then, make sure you have added "yourself" (whoever "yourself" is that > > is trying to run an audio application) to the audio group. Quoting Clayton Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > But had to go to /dev/hdd and add myself to the user disk and now I can > listen

Re: sndconfig [was Re: Debian is not for me]

2000-12-13 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 09:36:20AM +1100, John Griffiths wrote: > At 08:27 PM 12/13/2000 -0200, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: > > Try an apt-get source from woody. > > Pehaps can work. > > NOO > > download the .deb's seperately from debian.org and use dpkg > > eg: > > #

Fwd: Re: Debian is not for me

2000-12-13 Thread Clayton Stapleton
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: Debian is not for me Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:43:25 -0700 From: Clayton Stapleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for the help SOUND is now working. Looking at /proc/pci showed that es1371 was included so that running modprobe es13

Re: sndconfig [was Re: Debian is not for me]

2000-12-13 Thread John Griffiths
At 08:27 PM 12/13/2000 -0200, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: > Try an apt-get source from woody. > Pehaps can work. NOO download the .deb's seperately from debian.org and use dpkg eg: #dpkg -i sndconfig.deb it might have some dependencies but it'll tell you so keep

Re: sndconfig [was Re: Debian is not for me]

2000-12-13 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
Try an apt-get source from woody. Pehaps can work. On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 02:21:23PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: sndconfig [was Re: Debian is not for me] > Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000

Re: sndconfig [was Re: Debian is not for me]

2000-12-13 Thread mcclosk
|> 1 Compile sound into a new kernel |> 2 Get sndconfig and xplaymidi from the woody section of the debian.org. |> |> sndconfig is the same tool that you have on RHL. Does anyone know if sndconfig can be used on potato systems, or is there a library incompatibility? The download page doesn't sugg

Re: Debian is not for me

2000-12-13 Thread Nick Croft
1 Compile sound into a new kernel 2 Get sndconfig and xplaymidi from the woody section of the debian.org. sndconfig is the same tool that you have on RHL. Lotsa luck Nick

Re: Debian is not for me

2000-12-13 Thread Jon Pennington
Clayton Stapleton wrote: > > It is a Sound Blaster 16 PCI sound card. The system BIOS is set to recognize > PnP cards and is used by Win 98 and Suse 6.4 distro's so I do not want to > change it. The sound chip is a Ensoniq 1371, IRQ 11 and i/o=6800-683F. I > have read the PnP Howto and Alsa mini-H

Re: Debian is not for me

2000-12-13 Thread Rino Mardo
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 08:29:17AM -0800 or thereabouts, Nate Amsden wrote: > Clayton Stapleton wrote: > > > my mouse to work in Gnome with Icewm but then I have to go to a console > > to kill gpm so that it moves around in Gnome. So no thanks I will stick > > with distro's that have better instru

Re: Debian is not for me

2000-12-13 Thread D-Man
I think you should browse the archives now. I recall seeing a subject similar to "Re es1371 PROBLEM SOLVED" yesterday. -D On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:26:03 Clayton Stapleton wrote: | It is a Sound Blaster 16 PCI sound card. The system BIOS is set to recognize | PnP cards and is used by Win 98 and

Re: Debian is not for me

2000-12-13 Thread Clayton Stapleton
te: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:38:19 -0700 > > >Yes! Debian is not for me. It does not recognize my sound card even though > >two other OS do (Win98 and SuSe6.4), that are on this same computer. There > >is no clear cut instructions on how to make this possible. I have read the >

Re: Debian is not for me

2000-12-12 Thread Erik Steffl
Clayton Stapleton wrote: > > Yes! Debian is not for me. It does not recognize my sound card even though > two other OS do (Win98 and SuSe6.4), that are on this same computer. There > is no clear cut instructions on how to make this possible. I have read the > Sound Howto and that

Re: Debian is not for me

2000-12-12 Thread Ray Percival
What soundcard? -- Original Message -- From: Clayton Stapleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:38:19 -0700 >Yes! Debian is not for me. It does not recognize my sound card even though >two other OS d

Re: Debian is not for me

2000-12-12 Thread Nate Amsden
Clayton Stapleton wrote: > my mouse to work in Gnome with Icewm but then I have to go to a console > to kill gpm so that it moves around in Gnome. So no thanks I will stick > with distro's that have better instructions. > Clay Stapleton have fun, betting you'll be back :) ive run slackware, redh

Re: Debian is not for me

2000-12-12 Thread Denzil Kelly
--- Clayton Stapleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes! Debian is not for me. It does not recognize my > sound card even though > two other OS do (Win98 and SuSe6.4), that are on > this same computer. There > is no clear cut instructions on how to make this > possible.

Debian is not for me

2000-12-12 Thread Clayton Stapleton
Yes! Debian is not for me. It does not recognize my sound card even though two other OS do (Win98 and SuSe6.4), that are on this same computer. There is no clear cut instructions on how to make this possible. I have read the Sound Howto and that still leaves me guessing. Then there is the printer