on Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 02:35:08PM -0500, Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> > Did you see that in announce? The next stable release is 13 cd's. That
> > just about prevents all people on 56kb modems (many in the so-called
> > "third" world) from downloading them and
Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The biggest difficulty I have with the postal service is living in a
> place with a shared letterbox.
Wait, you have a shared letterbox? Do you have roommates, or is this
an apartment building or something?
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Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "If you are about to post a whole bunch of leaflets through this door
> - STOP! The skip is round the corner to the left. Please save me the
> trouble."
I had similar results in putting a sign on the inside door of my
mailbox where the mailman would see it tha
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Multiply that by the number of complexes in
> any decent sized metro area and it comes out to at least a few
> truckloads of crap every day that people never even look at yet have
> to pay for the removal and storage/management of.
And if you live in an ol
Richard Hoskins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Your logic fails when you consider postage as a penalty. Postage is
> payment for a service. Pre-sorted bulk mail is cheaper to deliver
> than first class, and the postage reflects that. But you know that.
Commercial speech is not covered by the fi
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Am Dienstag, 16. März 2004 08:01 schrieb Paul Johnson:
> > in Example you need only to download one MTA, because of the conflicts. I
> > think you can save at least 2 CDs if you download only one of every
> > conflicting Package.
>
> And now you see e
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Am Montag, 15. März 2004 23:26 schrieb Number Six:
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 11:03:05PM +0100, Werner Mahr wrote:
> > in Example you need only to download one MTA, because of the conflicts. I
> > think you can save at least 2 CDs if you download only o
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 01:34:37PM -0500, David P James wrote:
> On March 16, 2004 13:04, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 11:16:25PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
>
> >
> > | Further more, why am I penalized with a higher postage rate for not
> > | spamming?
> >
> > I don't u
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 19:16:57 +
Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> The original mail contained the important condition "if you don't have
> a flatrate". As far as woody goes, I have a lot of packages installed,
> and there's several off each CD. That would have meant a lot of
> downloading
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 05:22:41PM -, Tim Gunning wrote:
> >
> > > How in God's name is it an obstacle? Who the hell needs all 13 CD's?
> > > Are you planning on installing every single binary package there is?
> >
> >
>
> whoot, is it actually possible to install everything,
>
> does suc
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 10:23:30AM +, Richard Kimber wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 00:31:48 +
> Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Judging from what friends say about the US' mail system and what I know
> > of other systems, the US' mail system is dreadful compared to that of
> >
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 10:30:26AM -0500, Chris Metzler wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 15:49:10 +0100
> Kai Grossjohann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Beretta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > How in God's name is it an obstacle? Who the hell needs all 13 CD's?
> > > Are you planning on inst
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 01:49, Kai Grossjohann wrote:
> Beretta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > How in God's name is it an obstacle? Who the hell needs all 13 CD's?
> > Are you planning on installing every single binary package there is?
>
> I don't know about you, but the idea of
>
> - buy CD 1 via
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 12:59, David wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 04:57:30AM +1100, bob parker wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 21:31, Beretta wrote:
> >
> > Yeah and who can tie up their phone line 24 hours. I did d/l a full iso
> > (Knoppix) on my dialup at 8/24 through the night only. It took a we
Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
The sender paid for the delivery. Unlike with email spam where the
sender steals the resources for delivery. Notice that, before you
implemented automatic throwing away of email, how you received vastly
more email spam than you did postal mail (ads and real mail). Pu
On 2004-03-16, Derrick 'dman' Hudson penned:
>
>
>| Further more, why am I penalized with a higher postage rate for not |
>spamming?
>
> I don't understand this statement.
>
Compare the "bulk" mailing rate to the cost of a stamp.
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Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> | Further more, why am I penalized with a higher postage rate for not
>> | spamming?
>>
>> I don't understand this statement.
>
> Why should I have to pay a higher rate just because I don't spew for
On March 16, 2004 13:04, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 11:16:25PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
>
> | Further more, why am I penalized with a higher postage rate for not
> | spamming?
>
> I don't understand this statement.
>
Bulk mail is typically charged at a lower rate tha
"Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> | Further more, why am I penalized with a higher postage rate for not
> | spamming?
>
> I don't understand this statement.
Why should I have to pay a higher rate just because I don't spew forth
several tons of postage?
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 11:16:25PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
| On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 10:38:18PM +0100, Osamu Aoki wrote:
| > Oh, BS. US is excellent in comparison to other countries for mail
| > system. :-)
|
| I can go for days at a time without spam in my email, why can't I do
| it with the
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Sent: 16 March 2004 17:33
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Next stable release: 13 CD's
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 05:22:41PM -, Tim Gunning wrote:
> whoot, is it actually possible to install everything,
Paul Johnson wrote:
Raise your hand if you didn't know about netinsts when you switched to
Debian and started after apt came out...
First install of Debian was off a 6 CD set which included Red Hat, Slack
and FreeBSD. I honestly can say that I didn't start net installs after apt
because afte
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 05:22:41PM -, Tim Gunning wrote:
> whoot, is it actually possible to install everything,
No. Many packages conflict.
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> > How in God's name is it an obstacle? Who the hell needs all 13 CD's?
> > Are you planning on installing every single binary package there is?
>
>
whoot, is it actually possible to install everything,
does such a command exist ?
+
bash-2.05b$ sudo apt-get install *
Password:
R
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 15:49:10 +0100
Kai Grossjohann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Beretta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > How in God's name is it an obstacle? Who the hell needs all 13 CD's?
> > Are you planning on installing every single binary package there is?
>
> I don't know about you, but
Beretta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> How in God's name is it an obstacle? Who the hell needs all 13 CD's?
> Are you planning on installing every single binary package there is?
I don't know about you, but the idea of
- buy CD 1 via mail order
- wait a week for it to arrive
- start Debian
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On Monday 15 March 2004 15:09, Olle Eriksson wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 20:33, John Hasler wrote:
> > monique writes:
> > > That sounds like a problem of inaccurate reporting.
> >
> > The usual kind.
> >
> > > It's simply not true that it requires
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:49:21 -0500
David P James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think everyone, everywhere, complains about the postal service since
> they're invariably worse than the private sector alternatives.
Not invariably. The private sector could not IMHO have provided a better
service
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 00:31:48 +
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Judging from what friends say about the US' mail system and what I know
> of other systems, the US' mail system is dreadful compared to that of
> many other first-world countries.
So, it's better than ours, then? :)
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On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 09:18:33AM +0100, steef wrote:
> on this list. my conclusion: all dedicated people with sometimes a
> macabre sense of humour. made me think again of my hippie-days, and,
> more important, some messages gave me a good laugh.
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Subject: Re: Next stable release: 13 CD's
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 09:18:02 +0100
From: steef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Organization: zeta
To: Derrick 'dman' Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
References: &
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 11:49:21PM -0500, David P James wrote:
> I'm with Osamu on this one - the US mail system is definitely faster
> than Canada's. So however bad the USPS is in comparison to the rest of
> the world Canada Post is worse. And frank
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 10:38:18PM +0100, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> Oh, BS. US is excellent in comparison to other countries for mail
> system. :-)
I can go for days at a time without spam in my email, why can't I do
it with the postal service? Further mo
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 11:03:05PM +0100, Werner Mahr wrote:
> Am Montag, 15. M?rz 2004 19:44 schrieb Paul Johnson:
> > On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 01:40:45PM +0100, Werner Mahr wrote:
> > > Am Montag, 15. M?rz 2004 11:27 schrieb Beretta:
> > > > Are you p
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On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 12:29:56AM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> If anything I think netinsts are going to be far better publicized and
> supported than they were in woody.
Raise your hand if you didn't know about netinsts when you switched to
Debian a
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 10:09:46PM +0100, Olle Eriksson wrote:
> BTW, AFAIK there is no "full install" today either?
No. There is no reason there should be a default package layout for
anything but a basic system. Having a couple dozen possible task
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 03:25:22 +0100, Uten Navn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>
>And that requier nice stable internett access, whiche excludes quite a lot
>of people.
>
>Best regards
>Uten
Then go to cheapbytes
( http://cart.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart/0070010985.html ) and pay the $18 for
the
On March 15, 2004 19:31, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 10:38:18PM +0100, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> >
> > Really, US does better than Canada for mail, I think. It may not
> > be the cheapest in the worlds but it is better than most other
> > countries. You use Canadian URL so I think you
Not speaking to anyone whose income is too low or currency too
devalued for this to be true, but: burning 13 CD's would cost me
under a dollar. (I buy them cheap in bulk, with rebates. I just got
100 for $1.60.)
Get one person in your user group to download each of the CD's. Burn
them. Make cop
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 04:57:30AM +1100, bob parker wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 21:31, Beretta wrote:
> Yeah and who can tie up their phone line 24 hours. I did d/l a full iso
> (Knoppix) on my dialup at 8/24 through the night only. It took a week.
> And then it was out a bit or 3 and failed t
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 04:20:15PM -0500, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:
> ... I know I wouldn't have chosen Debian if I thought I had to download
> more than one CD ...
I downloaded six.
Floppy disk images.
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 10:38:18PM +0100, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 10:49:48AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > Hell, mail delivery in the US is slow, expensive and unreliable, how
> > are we to expect it to be somehow better in a third-world country?
>
> Oh, BS. US is excellent i
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 04:20:15PM -0500, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 10:09:46PM +0100, Olle Eriksson wrote:
> > So what is the alternative then? Should we skip packages just to keep
> > the number of CDs down?
>
> Is there already an option (in big, bold, blinking letters BE
Number Six wrote:
A user might not know which she wants, first installing the one and then
the other. It might be helpful to provide .jigdo's that partition the
archives into mutually non-conflicting subsets, so this hypothetical
user could start trying things sooner.
That's already a possi
On Monday 15 March 2004 1:33 pm, John Hasler wrote:
> What other distribution occupies X CDs but requires fewer than X to
> install?
Just off the top of my head mind: SuSE, RedHat, Mandrake and the various *BSD's
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 11:03:05PM +0100, Werner Mahr wrote:
> in Example you need only to download one MTA, because of the conflicts. I
> think you can save at least 2 CDs if you download only one of every
> conflicting Package.
A user might not know which she wants, first installing the one an
Osamu Aoki writes:
> Anyway, 13 disks are problem.
!3 disks are not a problem. The perception that 13 disks are necessary is
a problem.
> We need to have few key packages within 1 disk for installation and 1
> extra each for desktop environments.
Something like base system, standard, optional,
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Am Montag, 15. März 2004 19:44 schrieb Paul Johnson:
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 01:40:45PM +0100, Werner Mahr wrote:
> > Am Montag, 15. M?rz 2004 11:27 schrieb Beretta:
> > > Are you planning on installing every single binary package there is?
> >
> > T
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 10:49:48AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 01:24:01PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 11:50:57AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> > | Hi Debian!
> > |
> > | Did you see that in announce? The next stable release is 13 cd's.
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 10:09:46PM +0100, Olle Eriksson wrote:
> So what is the alternative then? Should we skip packages just to keep
> the number of CDs down?
Is there already an option (in big, bold, blinking letters BEFORE the
13 CD) named something to the effect of: "base install complete
the
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 09:13:26AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
| I hear everybody saying "But you don't need the 13 cd's". OK, I don't
| need the 13 CD's. But I have x CD's and have them registered with
| apt-cdrom. Now I want a package Y. Synaptic or whatever won't show it
| because it isn'
On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 20:33, John Hasler wrote:
> monique writes:
> > That sounds like a problem of inaccurate reporting.
>
> The usual kind.
>
> > It's simply not true that it requires 13 CDs.
>
> "The complete distribution occupies 13 CDs" will be turned into "Debian
> requires 13 CDs". Afte
I wrote:
> It will have to be effectively publicized somewhere other than the
> installation instructions. People who see Slashdot articles or
> reviews on Web sites that say "Debian/Sarge requires 13 CDs" aren't
> going to look farther.
monique writes:
> That sounds like a problem of inaccurate
On 2004-03-15, John Hasler penned:
> Chris Metzler writes:
>> Presumably, when there actually is a release, this fact will be
>> publicized -- like it was for Woody, which was 7 CDs but didn't
>> require them all either.
>
> It will have to be effectively publicized somewhere other than the
> insta
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 10:49:48AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
| On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 01:24:01PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
| > On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 11:50:57AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
| > | Hi Debian!
| > |
| > | Did you see that in announce? The next stable release is 13 cd's.
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 09:25:18 -0600
Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So who knows how much more than 6 weeks if you use jigdo. I know, I
> don't need the 13 CD's, but read my qeury further down on how you find
> that what you want is on a CD that you didn't get and the reason I want
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 01:24:01PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 11:50:57AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> | Hi Debian!
> |
> | Did you see that in announce? The next stable release is 13 cd's. That
> | just about pre
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 09:25:18AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Right on. But this presumes that all you do is download at 5 mins/MB
> which you don't: the ISP goes down, while you are sleeping and the next
> morning you find out.
That's why you
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 01:40:45PM +0100, Werner Mahr wrote:
> Am Montag, 15. M?rz 2004 11:27 schrieb Beretta:
>
> > Are you planning on installing every single binary package there is?
>
> That don't work.
Well, that's what you end up doing if you
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 09:13:26 -0600
Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chris Metzler wrote:
>>
>> Well, it doesn't make much sense to me to put up a page with
>> installation instructions ("You only need Disk #1 to install the base
>> system...") for a release that doesn't exist and isn't
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 09:13:26AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> I hear everybody saying "But you don't need the 13 cd's". OK, I don't
> need the 13 CD's. But I have x CD's and have them registered with
> apt-cdrom. Now I want a package Y. Synaptic
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 08:32:56AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> Colin Watson writes:
> > No, it's not, because you very likely don't need them all. It's not as if
> > the installer requires registration of all 13 before it lets you do
> > anything else.
On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 11:50:57AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
| Hi Debian!
|
| Did you see that in announce? The next stable release is 13 cd's. That
| just about prevents all people on 56kb modems (many in the so-called
| "third" world) from downloading them and
| will I ever see the set i
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Am Montag, 15. März 2004 16:13 schrieb Hugo Vanwoerkom:
> I hear everybody saying "But you don't need the 13 cd's". OK, I don't
> need the 13 CD's. But I have x CD's and have them registered with
> apt-cdrom. Now I want a package Y. Synaptic or whatev
Beretta wrote:
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 02:00:19 +0100, Tom Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
But even if we are looking at a full 13 x 700 MB = 9100 MB at a
relatively slow 5 minutes per megabyte it would take you less than a
week to download the entire distribution.
What kinda math is that?
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 21:31, Beretta wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 02:00:19 +0100, Tom Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >But even if we are looking at a full 13 x 700 MB = 9100 MB at a
> >relatively slow 5 minutes per megabyte it would take you less than a
> >week to download the entire d
Chris Metzler wrote:
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 08:32:56 -0600
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Colin Watson writes:
No, it's not, because you very likely don't need them all. It's not as
if the installer requires registration of all 13 before it lets you do
anything else.
Most potential users don'
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 11:02:13AM +0100, steef wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
> >On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 05:01:31PM -0800, Number Six wrote:
> >>Are DVD images going to be available? I would think (hope) those would
> >>be given "preferred" status.
>
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 10:42:04AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> Colin Watson writes:
> > No, it's not, because you very likely don't need them all. It's not
> > as if the installer requires registration of all 13 before it lets
> > you do anything else.
>
> I wrote:
> > Most potential users don't k
Colin Watson writes:
> No, it's not, because you very likely don't need them all. It's not
> as if the installer requires registration of all 13 before it lets
> you do anything else.
I wrote:
> Most potential users don't know that.
Colin Watson writes:
> Sounds like a good reason to start tellin
Chris Metzler writes:
> Presumably, when there actually is a release, this fact will be
> publicized -- like it was for Woody, which was 7 CDs but didn't require
> them all either.
It will have to be effectively publicized somewhere other than the
installation instructions. People who see Slashdo
Colin Watson wrote:
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 11:02:13AM +0100, steef wrote:
i agree with vanwoerkom. 13 cd's is for the poorer part of the world a
major obstacle for the use of i.c. debian_linux
No, it's not, because you very likely don't need them all. It's not as
if the installer requires
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 08:32:56AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> Colin Watson writes:
> > No, it's not, because you very likely don't need them all. It's not
> > as if the installer requires registration of all 13 before it lets
> > you do anything else.
>
> Most potential users don't know that.
So
Paul Johnson wrote:
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On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 01:58:43PM -0500, Chris Metzler wrote:
If the packages are going to be roughly sorted through the CDs based
on popularity (as the notice suggested)
If you aren't already, this is why you should have popular
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 08:32:56 -0600
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Colin Watson writes:
> > No, it's not, because you very likely don't need them all. It's not as
> > if the installer requires registration of all 13 before it lets you do
> > anything else.
>
> Most potential users don't
Colin Watson writes:
> No, it's not, because you very likely don't need them all. It's not as if
> the installer requires registration of all 13 before it lets you do
> anything else.
Most potential users don't know that.
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Am Montag, 15. März 2004 11:27 schrieb Beretta:
> Are you planning on installing every single binary package there is?
That don't work.
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 11:02:13AM +0100, steef wrote:
> i agree with vanwoerkom. 13 cd's is for the poorer part of the world a
> major obstacle for the use of i.c. debian_linux
No, it's not, because you very likely don't need them all. It's not as
if the installer requires registration of all 13
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 02:00:19 +0100, Tom Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>But even if we are looking at a full 13 x 700 MB = 9100 MB at a
>relatively slow 5 minutes per megabyte it would take you less than a
>week to download the entire distribution.
>
What kinda math is that?
5 mins pe
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 11:00:28 +0100, steef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>i agree with vanwoerkom. 13 cd's is for the poorer part of the world a
>major obstacle for the use of i.c. debian_linux
>
>cheers,
>
>steef
How in God's name is it an obstacle? Who the hell needs all 13 CD's? Are you
planni
Paul Johnson wrote:
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On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 05:01:31PM -0800, Number Six wrote:
Are DVD images going to be available? I would think (hope) those would
be given "preferred" status.
You can make your own DVDs with jigdo already. jigdo is the p
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On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 05:01:31PM -0800, Number Six wrote:
> Are DVD images going to be available? I would think (hope) those would
> be given "preferred" status.
You can make your own DVDs with jigdo already. jigdo is the preferred
method for mak
> On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 11:50:57AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> > Did you see that in announce? The next stable release is 13 cd's. That
> > just about prevents all people on 56kb modems (many in the so-called
> > "third" world) from downloading them and will I ever see the set if I
> > "or
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Hi Debian!
Did you see that in announce? The next stable release is 13 cd's. That
just about prevents all people on 56kb modems (many in the so-called
"third" world) from downloading them and will I ever see the set if I
"order" them in Mexico by mail?
Hugo.
I have to
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On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 07:46:32PM -0500, Tom Allison wrote:
> >So what? RTFM and you would know that in the vast majority of cases
> >you only need the first CD and a network connection. Yeah, installing
> >over a modem sucks rocks, but I've done it
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 11:50:57AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Did you see that in announce? The next stable release is 13 cd's. That
just about prevents all people on 56kb modems (many in the so-called
"third" world) from downloading them and will I ever see the set if I
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On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 01:58:43PM -0500, Chris Metzler wrote:
> If the packages are going to be roughly sorted through the CDs based
> on popularity (as the notice suggested)
If you aren't already, this is why you should have popularity-contest
insta
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On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 11:50:57AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Did you see that in announce? The next stable release is 13 cd's. That
> just about prevents all people on 56kb modems (many in the so-called
> "third" world) from downloading them an
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Hi Debian!
Did you see that in announce? The next stable release is 13 cd's. That
just about prevents all people on 56kb modems (many in the so-called
"third" world) from downloading them and will I ever see the set if I
"order" them in Mexico by mail?
Hugo.
The "thir
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Did you see that in announce? The next stable release is 13 cd's. That
> just about prevents all people on 56kb modems (many in the so-called
> "third" world) from downloading them and will I ever see the set if I
> "order" them in Mexico by mail?
The next stable releas
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 11:50:57 -0600
Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Debian!
>
> Did you see that in announce? The next stable release is 13 cd's. That
> just about prevents all people on 56kb modems (many in the so-called
> "third" world) from downloading them
Those 13 CDs will
On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 11:50:57AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Hi Debian!
>
> Did you see that in announce? The next stable release is 13 cd's. That
> just about prevents all people on 56kb modems (many in the so-called
> "third" world) from downloading them and will I ever see the set if I
Hi Debian!
Did you see that in announce? The next stable release is 13 cd's. That
just about prevents all people on 56kb modems (many in the so-called
"third" world) from downloading them and will I ever see the set if I
"order" them in Mexico by mail?
Hugo.
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