Re: Debian News before 2022 have disappeared

2025-01-02 Thread Luna Jernberg
Forwarded this thread there now too Den tors 2 jan. 2025 kl 23:27 skrev Andy Smith : > > Hi, > > On Sun, Dec 08, 2024 at 04:54:53PM +0100, Jean-Claude Arbaut wrote: > > I just noticed some of my browser favorites pointing to Debian News ( > > http://www.debian.org/News/..

Re: Debian News before 2022 have disappeared

2025-01-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Dec 08, 2024 at 04:54:53PM +0100, Jean-Claude Arbaut wrote: > I just noticed some of my browser favorites pointing to Debian News ( > http://www.debian.org/News/...) are now dead. I seems all news before maybe > 2022 have disappeared, while there were not so long ago (a f

Re: Debian News before 2022 have disappeared

2024-12-08 Thread Will Mengarini
* Jean-Claude Arbaut [24-12/08=Su 16:54 +0100]: > I just noticed some of my browser favorites pointing to Debian News ( > http://www.debian.org/News/...) are now dead. I seems all news before maybe > 2022 have disappeared, while there were not so long ago (a few months > maybe?) ar

Debian News before 2022 have disappeared

2024-12-08 Thread Jean-Claude Arbaut
Hi, I just noticed some of my browser favorites pointing to Debian News ( http://www.debian.org/News/...) are now dead. I seems all news before maybe 2022 have disappeared, while there were not so long ago (a few months maybe?) archives going back to 1997. URLs like https://www.debian.org/News

Re: Interesting News.

2021-09-17 Thread Eric S Fraga
Thank you for posting this. Interesting article. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4.6 on Debian 11.0

Interesting News.

2021-09-09 Thread harryweaver
I thought this was interesting: https://prod-physicsworld-iop.content.pugpig.com/blog/2021/08/28/standing-on-the-shoulders-of-programmers/pugpig_index.html Cheers! Harry. -- Sent with Tutanota, the secure & ad-free mailbox.

[NEWS]: Ludovic Courtès

2021-04-07 Thread Katarina Rostova
https://gnu.support/richard-stallman/Ludovic-Court%C3%A8s-Guix-is-accusing-Stallman-of-Thoughtcrime-on-his-own-domain-GNU-org.html

Re: [Possibly fake news] [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd

2019-05-25 Thread Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (12019-05-25): > That means that to send SIGILL to pid 1 you most probably gotta be > root (systemd or not). And then, there are more classy ways to bring > your system down anyway. > > Folks, please double-check that stuff before reposting. I don't want > the Debian mailing list

Re: [Possibly fake news] [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd

2019-05-25 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-25, wrote: > > Folks, please double-check that stuff before reposting. I don't want > the Debian mailing list to become Fakebook or Twitter. > Or Der Spiegel. https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/01/der-spiegal-fabrication-scandal-global/579889/ -- “Decisions are

[Possibly fake news] [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd

2019-05-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 02:01:35PM -0700, Fred wrote: > Hello, > I subscribe to the Devuan Linux mailing list. This posting just > arrived and it appears quite important to Debian. [about sending SIGILL to systemd] This is most probably fake news. You have to have appropriate permi

Re: ot: of a sort, alternative news collection sources?

2018-12-17 Thread Ben Finney
Karen Lewellen writes: > If not, does anyone know of an alternative source that provides a > collection of news stories from various outlets in one place? Does collaboratively-edited publishing meet the need? Anyone can contribute, and articles are written collaboratively for a

Re: ot: of a sort, alternative news collection sources?

2018-12-17 Thread Dan Ritter
Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi all, > When Google made major changes to its google news platform, someone richly > and kindly created an alternative that kept the old google news format. > www.theoldgnews.com > Unfortunately word got back to google with their making more changes to

ot: of a sort, alternative news collection sources?

2018-12-16 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi all, When Google made major changes to its google news platform, someone richly and kindly created an alternative that kept the old google news format. www.theoldgnews.com Unfortunately word got back to google with their making more changes to the point the developers behind this source

Good news: Upgrade to Stretch - a 10-year-old can do it

2017-06-22 Thread Eike Lantzsch
http://changelog.complete.org/archives/9797-first-experiences-with-stretch enjoy Eike

Re: Problem google-chrome Flash Player with http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news

2017-03-19 Thread cbannister
On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 03:05:13PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > On 01/14/2017 09:30 AM, solitone wrote: > >On Saturday, January 14, 2017 9:15:11 AM CET Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > >>and on mine not! Hey, come on! You've installed a 3rd party package and you're asking on this list why it doesn't wo

Re: Problem google-chrome Flash Player with http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news

2017-01-14 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
On 01/14/2017 09:30 AM, solitone wrote: On Saturday, January 14, 2017 9:15:11 AM CET Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: and on mine not! Are you on stretch as well? Davide Sid. Hugo

Re: Problem google-chrome Flash Player with http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news

2017-01-14 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
hrome. In the beginning Flash just displayed the video. Then it displayed the start symbol that you had to click in order for the video to start. Now it displays a puzzle piece with the message to right click the puzzle piece and then select "Run the plug-in". That works generally but it f

Re: Problem google-chrome Flash Player with http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news

2017-01-14 Thread Bob Weber
e > piece and then select "Run the plug-in". > > That works generally but it fails with NBC News pages. "Right-click to run > Adobe Flash Player" appears overlayed by a rotating circle segment. but > right-click never shows ythe option to run the plug-in. > > Can anyone verify this and what is to be done? > > Hugo > >

Re: Problem google-chrome Flash Player with http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news

2017-01-14 Thread Patrick Bartek
that you had to click in order for > the video to start. > > Now it displays a puzzle piece with the message to right click the > puzzle piece and then select "Run the plug-in". > > That works generally but it fails with NBC News pages. "Right-click > to ru

Re: Problem google-chrome Flash Player with http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news

2017-01-14 Thread solitone
On Saturday, January 14, 2017 9:15:11 AM CET Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > and on mine not! Are you on stretch as well? Davide

Re: Problem google-chrome Flash Player with http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news

2017-01-14 Thread Bob Weber
t displayed the start symbol that you had to click in order for the > video to start. > > Now it displays a puzzle piece with the message to right click the puzzle > piece and then select "Run the plug-in". > > That works generally but it fails with NBC News pages. "

Re: Problem google-chrome Flash Player with http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news

2017-01-14 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
On 01/13/2017 11:30 PM, solitone wrote: That's strange. On mine the video is displayed. solitone@alan:~$ apt-cache policy google-chrome-stable google-chrome-stable: Installed: 55.0.2883.87-1 Candidate: 55.0.2883.87-1 Version table: *** 55.0.2883.87-1 500 500 http://dl.google.com/l

Re: Problem google-chrome Flash Player with http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news

2017-01-13 Thread solitone
That's strange. On mine the video is displayed. solitone@alan:~$ apt-cache policy google-chrome-stable google-chrome-stable: Installed: 55.0.2883.87-1 Candidate: 55.0.2883.87-1 Version table: *** 55.0.2883.87-1 500 500 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable/main amd64 Package

Problem google-chrome Flash Player with http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news

2017-01-13 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
message to right click the puzzle piece and then select "Run the plug-in". That works generally but it fails with NBC News pages. "Right-click to run Adobe Flash Player" appears overlayed by a rotating circle segment. but right-click never shows ythe option to run the p

RE: pleasant news

2016-12-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi, I've just read the latest news and I was pleasantly surprised, please read it here <http://pol.robimlaw.com/dedf> Looking forward, Samuel Thibault From: personal [mailto:perso...@carus-verlag.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:13 PM To: phil...@sadleder.de Subject:

Good News

2016-08-06 Thread Mr.Friedrich Mayrhofer
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Re: Some Flash news

2016-06-05 Thread Sven Hartge
Stuart Longland wrote: > On 17/05/16 04:20, Erwan David wrote: >> Problem is not the browser. Problem is sites/Appliances which require >> it (eg. VMWare vcenter) > VMWare are allegedly getting rid of their Flash dependence. Well, kind of. A new HTML5-based web client for vSphere is in develop

Re: Some Flash news

2016-06-04 Thread Stuart Longland
On 17/05/16 04:20, Erwan David wrote: > Problem is not the browser. Problem is sites/Appliances which require it > (eg. VMWare vcenter) VMWare are allegedly getting rid of their Flash dependence. -- Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL) I haven't lost my mind... ...it's backed up on a tape

Re: Some Flash news

2016-05-16 Thread Mike Castle
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > That's Shumway from Mozilla. Google's Swiffy fits into this domain as well. mrc

Re: Some Flash news

2016-05-16 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2016-05-16 at 17:01 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > When will someone provide a Flash implementation in Javascript That's Shumway from Mozilla.  -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Some Flash news

2016-05-16 Thread Stefan Monnier
> For those still using Flash and/or Chrome > http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2458329/googles-chrome-browser-will-switch-off-flash-content-by-default When will someone provide a Flash implementation in Javascript (probably by combining the existing Flash implementation with

Re: Some Flash news

2016-05-16 Thread Erwan David
Le 16/05/2016 à 20:00, Frank McCormick a écrit : > For those still using Flash and/or Chrome > > > http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2458329/googles-chrome-browser-will-switch-off-flash-content-by-default > > > > Problem is not the browser. Problem is sites/Applian

Some Flash news

2016-05-16 Thread Frank McCormick
For those still using Flash and/or Chrome http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2458329/googles-chrome-browser-will-switch-off-flash-content-by-default

Re: How well-maintained are NEWS and changelog files in deb packages?

2015-02-16 Thread Martin T
Don, thanks for explaining this! Martin On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Fri, 13 Feb 2015, Martin T wrote: >> apt-listchanges uses NEWS and changelog files in Debian packages. Are >> NEWS and changelog files always or at list usually updated, i.e. i

Re: How well-maintained are NEWS and changelog files in deb packages?

2015-02-13 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015, Martin T wrote: > apt-listchanges uses NEWS and changelog files in Debian packages. Are > NEWS and changelog files always or at list usually updated, i.e. is it > safe to trust those? changelog.Debian.gz files are updated on every new version which is present

How well-maintained are NEWS and changelog files in deb packages?

2015-02-13 Thread Martin T
Hi, apt-listchanges uses NEWS and changelog files in Debian packages. Are NEWS and changelog files always or at list usually updated, i.e. is it safe to trust those? thanks, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe"

Latest update was bad news for me!

2015-01-16 Thread Bruce Ward
I've got an ASRock motherboard with AMD AM3 CPU and "Giga PHY RTL8211CL" ethernet, running Wheezy. Had no joy getting the network port running (forcedeth module would kill the whole system as soon as tried to use or even unload it!), so I used an old (faithful) DEC Tulip card (de2104x module). And

Re: Opera (was Re: Good news on claws-mail)

2014-10-30 Thread Bret Busby
On 30/10/2014, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 05:56:25PM +0100, Siard wrote: >> I just installed the x86_64 version in my new PC (amd64) with 'dpkg -i'. >> After trying to 'apt-get install' the 3 gstreamer*-dependencies, >> I followed apt's advice to try 'apt-get -f install'

Opera (was Re: Good news on claws-mail)

2014-10-30 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 05:56:25PM +0100, Siard wrote: > I just installed the x86_64 version in my new PC (amd64) with 'dpkg -i'. > After trying to 'apt-get install' the 3 gstreamer*-dependencies, > I followed apt's advice to try 'apt-get -f install' (without packages) > and voilà: all dependen

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-29 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 30/10/14 07:52, Charlie wrote: > On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:56:25 +0100 Siard sent: > >> I followed apt's advice to try 'apt-get -f install' (without packages) >> and voilà: all dependencies were neatly solved. > > Thank you, I have to be honest, I was a bit wary about doing that, so > didn't try

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 30 oct 14, 07:52:37, Charlie wrote: > On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:56:25 +0100 Siard sent: > > > I followed apt's advice to try 'apt-get -f install' (without packages) > > and voilà: all dependencies were neatly solved. > > Thank you, I have to be honest, I was a bit wary about doing that, so >

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-29 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:56:25 +0100 Siard sent: > I followed apt's advice to try 'apt-get -f install' (without packages) > and voilà: all dependencies were neatly solved. Thank you, I have to be honest, I was a bit wary about doing that, so didn't try it. Charlie -- Registered Linux User

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-29 Thread Siard
Charlie: > Charles Kroeger: > > I suggest you try Opera beta. It's the best browser I've used in a > > long time. > > > > Version:26.0.1656.8 - Opera is up to date > > Update stream: beta > > System: Debian GNU/Linux jessie/sid (x86_64; XFCE) > > > > http://deb.opera.com > > But dep

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-29 Thread berenger . morel
Le 29.10.2014 06:38, Charlie a écrit : On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 13:47:26 -0400 Charles Kroeger sent: It's very maintained on linux. I suggest you try Opera beta. It's the best browser I've used in a long time. Version:26.0.1656.8 - Opera is up to date Update stream: beta System: Debian

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-28 Thread Charlie
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 13:47:26 -0400 Charles Kroeger sent: > It's very maintained on linux. I suggest you try Opera beta. It's the > best browser I've used in a long time. > > Version: 26.0.1656.8 - Opera is up to date > Update stream:beta > System: Debian GNU/Linux jessie/sid (x

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-28 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 17:40:02 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > opera might be closed source and unmaintained on > linux, it's still my favorite. It's very maintained on linux. I suggest you try Opera beta. It's the best browser I've used in a long time. Version:26.0.1656.8 -

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-27 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 02:41:26PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > > Le 23.10.2014 20:40, lee a écrit : > >berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: > > > >>The only problem is bash, here: it is unable to handle > >>multi-instances, so the histories are lost more or less randomly when

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-27 Thread lee
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: >> Do you use tmux? > > No, I do not really see the interest of using it, I must admit it. One advantage is that you can detach from the session and even log out and come back later, and it also survives the X server going down. -- Again we must be afraid

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-24 Thread berenger . morel
Le 23.10.2014 20:40, lee a écrit : berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: The only problem is bash, here: it is unable to handle multi-instances, so the histories are lost more or less randomly when I close/spawn terminals and sessions. # append history rather than overwriting it shopt -s

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-23 Thread lee
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: > The only problem is bash, here: it is unable to handle > multi-instances, so the histories are lost more or less randomly when > I close/spawn terminals and sessions. # append history rather than overwriting it shopt -s histappend Do you use tmux? --

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-23 Thread berenger . morel
Le 20.10.2014 17:29, Steve Litt a écrit : On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 03:37:56 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: And, finally, I consider myself as a DE user. My DE is built by myself around a terminal-emulator, a tiling window manager, Which one? i3 I use Openbox, which of course is

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-23 Thread berenger . morel
Le 21.10.2014 23:37, Steve Litt a écrit : On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 00:58:27 +0200 lee wrote: berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: > But my opinion is that, it's the accumulation of tools using > different slow languages, which will kill the computer's resources > (shell, python2, python3, php,

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-21 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 00:58:27 +0200 lee wrote: > berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: > > > But my opinion is that, it's the accumulation of tools using > > different slow languages, which will kill the computer's resources > > (shell, python2, python3, php, perl, basic, whatever). > > Perl isn

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-21 Thread lee
Steve Litt writes: > On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:20:25 +0200 > lee wrote: > > >> Since you're re-inventing the wheel: >> >> // sxnotify.c > [...] >> >> # aptitude install libsx-dev > > Very, very nice! I'm glad you like it :) There's also 'xmessage', and it requires you to click on a button, whi

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-21 Thread lee
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: > But my opinion is that, it's the accumulation of tools using different > slow languages, which will kill the computer's resources (shell, > python2, python3, php, perl, basic, whatever). Perl isn't exactly slow, considering what it does. In any case, pick

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-20 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 21/10/14 05:42, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> The . Don't you think? > > This is off topic for -user. Please take it to private e-mail if you > must continue. > Agreed, and I regret it. My sincerest apologies to the list. Kind regards -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 20 oct 14, 11:29:09, Steve Litt wrote: > > An afficienado would argue with you that it's a DE only if the apps can > all interact. That's your definition, Wikipedia seems to disagree. > Me, I'd prefer all my apps mind their own business, but > hey, that's just me. How does that work with

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 20 oct 14, 18:46:11, Peter Nieman wrote: > On 20/10/14 13:53, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >On Du, 19 oct 14, 15:35:47, Peter Nieman wrote: > >>Anyway, evince *recommends* dbus-X11, but after removing dbus it no > >>longer worked. > > > >Could you please elaborate on "it no longer worked"? Do you

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-20 Thread Peter Nieman
On 20/10/14 13:53, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 19 oct 14, 15:35:47, Peter Nieman wrote: Anyway, evince *recommends* dbus-X11, but after removing dbus it no longer worked. Could you please elaborate on "it no longer worked"? Do you get any errors if you start it from a terminal? Yes, I got a

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-20 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/10/14 04:48, Peter Nieman wrote: > On 19/10/14 15:04, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> You hijacked the thread - and this is why that's considered bad form - >> it muddies the discussion. -8<--->8-- > > Yes, Dad. > > The consequences of your d

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-20 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 03:37:56 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > And, finally, I consider myself as a DE user. My DE is built by > myself around a terminal-emulator, a tiling window manager, Which one? I use Openbox, which of course isn't tiling. > and > several applications, Such

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 19 oct 14, 15:35:47, Peter Nieman wrote: > Anyway, evince *recommends* dbus-X11, but after removing dbus it no > longer worked. Could you please elaborate on "it no longer worked"? Do you get any errors if you start it from a terminal? Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQs

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-20 Thread berenger . morel
Le 19.10.2014 16:15, Steve Litt a écrit : On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:47:03 +0200 Peter Nieman wrote: By the way, I am a desktop user, using fvwm. But I don't want all my applications to "look and feel" the same, I don't want everything to interact with everything, and I want to control my comput

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-20 Thread berenger . morel
Le 19.10.2014 17:03, Steve Litt a écrit : Rapid Application Development, Army Surplus style, which of course makes me a pariah in the eyes of "real" programmers. Life's tough. Real programmers don't need RAD, they only use butterflies (1). About RAD and interpreted languages, I do not really

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-20 Thread berenger . morel
Le 18.10.2014 22:44, John Hasler a écrit : Steve Litt writes: The process, the questions it asked, and the automatic collection of my computer's configuration made submitting the bug trivial. *Every* project should have one of these. Unfortunately as soon as you mention email their ears clos

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-19 Thread Peter Nieman
On 19/10/14 15:04, Scott Ferguson wrote: You hijacked the thread - and this is why that's considered bad form - it muddies the discussion. Tangents deserve their own, appriately chosen Subject line, threads - then they get the attention they deserve instead of being passed over by reader on the b

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:20:25 +0200 lee wrote: > Since you're re-inventing the wheel: > > // sxnotify.c > // > // This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or > // modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as > // published by the Free Software Foundation, eith

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:47:03 +0200 Peter Nieman wrote: > By the way, I am a desktop user, using fvwm. But I don't want all my > applications to "look and feel" the same, I don't want everything to > interact with everything, and I want to control my computer instead > of being controlled by my

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/10/14 00:35, Peter Nieman wrote: > On 19/10/14 13:48, Brian wrote: >> On Sat 18 Oct 2014 at 17:29:58 +0200, Peter Nieman wrote: >> >>> On 18/10/14 13:49, Scott Ferguson wrote: Do you have an answer to your question? Wild guess - notifications? >>> >>> I don't know claws, but I

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-19 Thread Peter Nieman
On 19/10/14 13:48, Brian wrote: On Sat 18 Oct 2014 at 17:29:58 +0200, Peter Nieman wrote: On 18/10/14 13:49, Scott Ferguson wrote: Do you have an answer to your question? Wild guess - notifications? I don't know claws, but I know from Wheezy that many packages depend on dbus although dbus i

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-19 Thread lee
Steve Litt writes: > Those visual and audio hints are one of the few things that most > programs might need to write to. They need a predefined standard to > write to, and I guess dbus is the standard being used. If I were in > charge of standards, I might have used something simpler (like a fifo

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-19 Thread lee
Mark Carroll writes: > Peter Nieman writes: > >> As mentioned already in another posting, I think the best, if not the >> only solution for Debian would be to split the whole thing in two, one >> for desktop environment users and one for users who do not want a >> desktop environment. Package

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-19 Thread Mark Carroll
Peter Nieman writes: > As mentioned already in another posting, I think the best, if not the > only solution for Debian would be to split the whole thing in two, one > for desktop environment users and one for users who do not want a > desktop environment. Packages that only work in a desktop

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-19 Thread Brian
On Sat 18 Oct 2014 at 17:29:58 +0200, Peter Nieman wrote: > On 18/10/14 13:49, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >Do you have an answer to your question? > > > >Wild guess - notifications? > > I don't know claws, but I know from Wheezy that many packages depend > on dbus although dbus isn't necessary for d

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-19 Thread Peter Nieman
On 18/10/14 19:36, Marko Ranđelović wrote: Great, but that's Gentoo way, we should have made a Gentuish Debian, i.e. port certain portage features into APT, such as easily control build flgas. But then it's needed to keep record of not which packages a package depends on, but which parts of which

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-18 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 19/10/14 02:29, Peter Nieman wrote: > On 18/10/14 13:49, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 18/10/14 23:28, Peter Nieman wrote: >>> On 17/10/14 20:25, Brian wrote: Why it needs to be compiled without dbus is also unknown. >>> >>> You're asking the wrong question. The question you should ask >>>

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-18 Thread John Hasler
Steve Litt writes: > The process, the questions it asked, and the automatic collection of > my computer's configuration made submitting the bug trivial. *Every* > project should have one of these. Unfortunately as soon as you mention email their ears close up. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-18 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:30:27 +0100 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > > Le 18.10.2014 16:14, Brian a écrit : > > Which once again raises the main question; what does systemd have > > to do > > with this? The original post gives an unexplained solution to a > > non-existent problem. > > Db

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-18 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 19:19:26 +0200 Sven Hartge wrote: > berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > > I guess that claws uses (lib)dbus to notify dbus-compliant > > softwares that there is a new mail. > > Also claws might get a signal from (for example) network-manager if > there is a connection

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-18 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:16:04 +0100 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Le 18.10.2014 16:29, Peter Nieman a écrit : > > As far as I am concerned, I don't have the time right now to learn > > the officially accepted procedures of filing bug reports in Debian > > Just run bugreport (or is it repo

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-18 Thread Rusi Mody
On Saturday, October 18, 2014 10:10:02 PM UTC+5:30, berenge...@neutralite.org wrote: > Le 18.10.2014 16:14, Brian a écrit : > > Which once again raises the main question; what does systemd have to > > do > > with this? The original post gives an unexplained solution to a > > non-existent problem.

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-18 Thread Marko Ranđelović
Great, but that's Gentoo way, we should have made a Gentuish Debian, i.e. port certain portage features into APT, such as easily control build flgas. But then it's needed to keep record of not which packages a package depends on, but which parts of which packages a package depends on, though I'm no

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-18 Thread Sven Hartge
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > I guess that claws uses (lib)dbus to notify dbus-compliant softwares > that there is a new mail. Also claws might get a signal from (for example) network-manager if there is a connection available to toggle its offline/online mode to avoid unnecessary trie

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-18 Thread berenger . morel
Le 18.10.2014 16:14, Brian a écrit : Which once again raises the main question; what does systemd have to do with this? The original post gives an unexplained solution to a non-existent problem. Dbus is (a crap, but not only) a tool to allow applications to share informations with other app

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-18 Thread Martin Read
On 18/10/14 16:29, Peter Nieman wrote: And I don't understand "TIA", unless it's Spanish. "Thanks In Advance" Well, I thought there was a strong relationship between systemd and dbus. Various parts of the systemd suite, including the systemd init daemon, use dbus to present its control int

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-18 Thread berenger . morel
Le 18.10.2014 16:29, Peter Nieman a écrit : As far as I am concerned, I don't have the time right now to learn the officially accepted procedures of filing bug reports in Debian Just run bugreport (or is it reportbug? I don't have a Debian currently, but I'm trying to fix that :p) . It'll ask

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-18 Thread Peter Nieman
On 18/10/14 13:49, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 18/10/14 23:28, Peter Nieman wrote: On 17/10/14 20:25, Brian wrote: Why it needs to be compiled without dbus is also unknown. You're asking the wrong question. The question you should ask yourself is: if claws-mail works perfectly well without dbus,

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-18 Thread Brian
On Sun 19 Oct 2014 at 00:05:08 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 19/10/14 00:29, Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:24:16 +0100 > > Brian wrote: > > > >> On Sat 18 Oct 2014 at 14:28:26 +0200, Peter Nieman wrote: > >> > >>> On 17/10/14 20:25, Brian wrote: > Why > it ne

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-18 Thread John Hasler
Reco writes: > This page tells otherwise: > https://packages.debian.org/jessie/claws-mail > OK, it's 'libdbus-1-3', not 'dbus' dependency, but libdbus-1-3 > recommends dbus. Then it isn't a dependency. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-use

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-18 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 19/10/14 00:29, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:24:16 +0100 > Brian wrote: > >> On Sat 18 Oct 2014 at 14:28:26 +0200, Peter Nieman wrote: >> >>> On 17/10/14 20:25, Brian wrote: Why it needs to be compiled without dbus is also unknown. >>> >>> You're asking the wrong qu

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-18 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:24:16 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Sat 18 Oct 2014 at 14:28:26 +0200, Peter Nieman wrote: > > > On 17/10/14 20:25, Brian wrote: > > >Why > > >it needs to be compiled without dbus is also unknown. > > > > You're asking the wrong question. The question you should ask > > y

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-18 Thread Brian
On Sat 18 Oct 2014 at 14:28:26 +0200, Peter Nieman wrote: > On 17/10/14 20:25, Brian wrote: > >Why > >it needs to be compiled without dbus is also unknown. > > You're asking the wrong question. The question you should ask > yourself is: if claws-mail works perfectly well without dbus, then > why

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-18 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 18/10/14 23:28, Peter Nieman wrote: > On 17/10/14 20:25, Brian wrote: >> Why >> it needs to be compiled without dbus is also unknown. > > You're asking the wrong question. The question you should ask yourself > is: if claws-mail works perfectly well without dbus, then why does > Debian ship a v

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-18 Thread Peter Nieman
On 17/10/14 20:25, Brian wrote: Why it needs to be compiled without dbus is also unknown. You're asking the wrong question. The question you should ask yourself is: if claws-mail works perfectly well without dbus, then why does Debian ship a version that depends on it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-17 Thread Brian
On Fri 17 Oct 2014 at 13:11:23 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > For those of you using Claws-Mail, you can keep it systemd-free into > the foreseeable future by disabling dbus, like this: > > ./configure --disable-dbus > > I've compiled Claws_Mail from source on Debian. It's fairly easy to do, > it ca

Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-17 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, For those of you using Claws-Mail, you can keep it systemd-free into the foreseeable future by disabling dbus, like this: ./configure --disable-dbus I've compiled Claws_Mail from source on Debian. It's fairly easy to do, it can exist in tandem with the existing Claws-Mail (obviously rena

Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-08-12 at 14:00 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: > I understand that most people don't like to adapt to new things and get > set in their ways -- but if we all did that, no progress would ever be > made. Yesno. I still use the same forks and knives as I used in my childhood, but in my child

Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-12 Thread Stephen Allen
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 06:09:19AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 23:58 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: > > So please lets stop the misinformation. > > GNOME3 eats much more resources. GNOME3 breaks every sane workflow for > artist. Of course it does, as I stated, Again, on an old

Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-12 Thread Pete Orrall
>> So please lets stop the misinformation. > > Indeed. Let's hear about peoples' actual experiences. I've used Wheezy both on my Toshiba Tecra A8 and in a VM on a previous workstation. I was not impressed at all with Gnome3's requirement for graphic acceleration to just run the desktop. My lapto

Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-08-12 at 08:18 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Joe wrote: > > On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 23:58:54 -0400 > > Stephen Allen wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 09:55:13AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > >>> > >>> GNOME 3 is quite different from the GNOME 2 series, and has ma

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