Re: [OT] RIP Netscape

2008-01-01 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:58:52 -0800 Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snipped discussion about Asimov's "The Feeling of Power"] > But at only 49 years old it is unlikely to be out of copyright! A lot > of the items on that site may be in the public domain, but an Asimov > short story is

Re: [OT] RIP Netscape

2007-12-31 Thread David Brodbeck
On Dec 31, 2007, at 1:10 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: We must be careful not to offend. Companies now spend untold time and money searching through languages of all sorts to be sure that a new product or merged company name is not offensive. If even one person^Wattorney finds it offensive^Wlucrati

Re: [OT] RIP Netscape

2007-12-31 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007 Dec 31 12:19 -0600]: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 12/31/07 12:06, David Brodbeck wrote: > > > > On Dec 29, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote: > >> As far as I'm concerned,

Re: [OT] RIP Netscape

2007-12-31 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/31/07 12:06, David Brodbeck wrote: > > On Dec 29, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote: >> As far as I'm concerned, 'Netscape' is a good name. I always wondered >> how names like 'Seamonkey',

Re: [OT] RIP Netscape

2007-12-31 Thread David Brodbeck
On Dec 29, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote: As far as I'm concerned, 'Netscape' is a good name. I always wondered how names like 'Seamonkey', 'Iceape' or 'Firefox' could ever make their way into a serious, corporate environment. Silly

Re: [OT] RIP Netscape

2007-12-31 Thread Marc Shapiro
Adrian Levi wrote: On 31/12/2007, Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Adrian Levi wrote: On 30/12/2007, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:52:54 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Man is the best computer we can put aboard a spa

Re: [OT] RIP Netscape

2007-12-31 Thread Dan H
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:52:54 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Man is the best computer we can put aboard a spacecraft ... and > the only one that can be mass produced with unskilled labor." > Wernher von Braun That quote is just sick. Remember who W.v.B. was, and his attitude towar

Re: [OT] RIP Netscape

2007-12-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sunday December 30 2007 12:57:26 Kelly Clowers wrote: [snip] > > Truly incompatible websites are few and far between. Of the few > "incompatible" websites I encounter, most are just forcing > incompatibility by looking at the user-agent string. There is > an extension called user-agent switcher

Re: [OT] RIP Netscape

2007-12-30 Thread Adrian Levi
On 31/12/2007, Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adrian Levi wrote: > > On 30/12/2007, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:52:54 -0600 > >> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> "Man is the best computer we can put aboard a spacecraft ... and

Re: [OT] RIP Netscape

2007-12-30 Thread Marc Shapiro
Adrian Levi wrote: On 30/12/2007, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:52:54 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Man is the best computer we can put aboard a spacecraft ... and the only one that can be mass produced with unskilled labor." Wernher von Brau

Re: [OT] RIP Netscape

2007-12-30 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Dec 30, 2007 10:19 AM, Mark Grieveson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 05:32:05 + (UTC) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Netscape Navigator 9.0.0.5 for Linux has just been released. > > > Works fine, looks good. > &

Re: [OT] RIP Netscape

2007-12-30 Thread Mark Grieveson
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 05:32:05 + (UTC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Netscape Navigator 9.0.0.5 for Linux has just been released. > > Works fine, looks good. > > Get it here: > > > > http://browser.netscape.com/downloads > > > > After unpacking, just

Re: [OT] RIP Netscape

2007-12-30 Thread Adrian Levi
On 30/12/2007, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:52:54 -0600 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Man is the best computer we can put aboard a spacecraft ... and > > the only one that can be mass produced with unskilled labor." > > Wernher von Braun > > Reminds

Re: [OT] RIP Netscape

2007-12-29 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:52:54 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Man is the best computer we can put aboard a spacecraft ... and > the only one that can be mass produced with unskilled labor." > Wernher von Braun Reminds me of Asimov's "The Feeling of Power": http://downlode.org/Etext

Re: [OT] RIP Netscape

2007-12-29 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Dec 29, 2007 3:18 PM, Sjoerd Hiemstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > my memory of Netscape is always kind of unpleasant. I remember > > > struggling to get it to work properly > > > > >

Re: [OT] RIP Netscape

2007-12-29 Thread Sjoerd Hiemstra
Ron Johnson wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > my memory of Netscape is always kind of unpleasant. I remember > > struggling to get it to work properly > > Netscape Navigator 9.0.0.5 for Linux has just been released. Works fine, looks good. G

Re: [OT] RIP Netscape

2007-12-29 Thread Ron Johnson
On Saturday December 29 2007 13:10:00 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 06:53:08AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,140903-c,netscape/article.h > >tml > > yeah, it's kinda sad, but at the same time, my memory of &g

Re: [OT] RIP Netscape

2007-12-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 06:53:08AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,140903-c,netscape/article.html yeah, it's kinda sad, but at the same time, my memory of Netscape is always kind of unpleasant. I remember struggling to get it to work properly and convinc

[OT] RIP Netscape

2007-12-29 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,140903-c,netscape/article.html Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Netscape Navigator 9.01b

2007-06-06 Thread Manon Metten
Hi Andrew, On 6/6/07, Andrew J. Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why are they still doing that in the age of Firefox? The newspaper where I've read this, states that Netscape is build upon Firefox, so maybe it has some extra features. Further it's closely integrated with AO

Re: Netscape Navigator 9.01b

2007-06-06 Thread Andrew J. Barr
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 18:17:58 + "Manon Metten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Netscape navigator 9.01b for GNU/Linux is available for download here: > > http://browser.netscape.com/ > > Greetings,

Netscape Navigator 9.01b

2007-06-06 Thread Manon Metten
Hi all, Netscape navigator 9.01b for GNU/Linux is available for download here: http://browser.netscape.com/ Greetings, Manon.

Konqueror and Netscape Email Site

2004-09-07 Thread Steven Feinstein
I can't log into the Netsacape email web site using Konqueror. I visited the Konqueror page and they have a FAQ stating that unchecking the setting that only allows cookies from the host server would solve the issue. This did not work for me, so I was wondering if anyone has had success and what

Re: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer

2004-07-26 Thread csj
On 26. July 2004 at 2:32PM -0400, "J F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For some unknown reason, everything works now. Netscape > prints. Konqueror prints. > > lp book.ps > lpq > lprm > lp book2.pdf > > All working! I selected lazerjet4 driver. I know

Re: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer

2004-07-26 Thread J F
For some unknown reason, everything works now. Netscape prints. Konqueror prints. lp book.ps lpq lprm lp book2.pdf All working! I selected lazerjet4 driver. I know it didn't used to work. Seems rebooting the computer might possibly have something to do with fixing it??? CUPS and setti

Re: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer

2004-07-25 Thread J F
L PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:15:15 +0800 Subject: Re: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer On 25. July 2004 at 3:11PM -0400,"J F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> I found some documentation at:> http://www.cups.o

Re: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer

2004-07-25 Thread csj
On 25. July 2004 at 3:11PM -0400, "J F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I found some documentation at: > http://www.cups.org/documentation.php It seems cups can print > postscript, even if your personal printer can't, but there are > not examples of how to set it up. The Debian cups packages should

Re: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer

2004-07-25 Thread J F
I found some documentation at: http://www.cups.org/documentation.php It seems cups can print postscript, even if your personal printer can't, but there are not examples of how to set it up. Still haven't gotten netscape to print, but got Konqueror to quit chopping off the top, sides,

Re: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer

2004-07-23 Thread J F
Konqueror prints fine, but netscape prints in postscript and I see just the text which composes the postscript being printed, not the rasterized image. I did find some documentation: http://www.cups.org/documentation.php Also found a tutorial. I'll post if I figure it out. Thanks. --- O

Re: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer

2004-07-23 Thread csj
On 22. July 2004 at 4:12PM -0400, "J F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Printing from Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of > Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer. But there are free software postscript emulators that will let you print as though you hav

Re: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer

2004-07-23 Thread Eric Brown
- Original Message - From: "J F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 1:12 PM Subject: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer > > Printing from Netscape seems

Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer

2004-07-22 Thread J F
Printing from Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer. Is there a way to set up 2 print spools? One called hpprinter and one called hpprinter-P? Both would be the same except hpprinter-P would go thru a postscript to raster convert

Re: Netscape

2004-04-18 Thread Katipo
Aurel wrote: I'm afraid you're not on the right mailing list,Sharon. Windows is really too complex us, I'm sorry A. smith8597 wrote: How do I know which version of Netscape Instant Messenger to use? I operate two computers. Windows xp, and windows 95. Shar

Re: Netscape

2004-04-18 Thread Aurel
I'm afraid you're not on the right mailing list,Sharon. Windows is really too complex us, I'm sorry A. smith8597 wrote: How do I know which version of Netscape Instant Messenger to use? I operate two computers. Windows xp, and windows 95.

Netscape

2004-04-17 Thread smith8597
How do I know which version of Netscape Instant Messenger to use? I operate two computers. Windows xp, and windows 95.  Sharon Smith   

Re: Sarge is trying to remove Netscape

2004-03-30 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Tim Connors: > > I miss the old days when people cared about the size of their programs > and optimising things, instead of just using the "oh it's so cheap to Me too. :-P A lot of people should go read Bentley's "Programming Pearls" and find out what it's like to have 2k words of

Re: Sarge is trying to remove Netscape

2004-03-30 Thread Dale Amon
Colin: thanks for the info. I have the feeling that Netscape is not the only critical application that has been broken as I note (but have not yet read) a messages about compupic further down the page. Your answer that others have seen and fixed the problem is comforting... the last time this

Re: Sarge is trying to remove Netscape

2004-03-30 Thread Tim Connors
Mozilla family has many nice new features, > > > > it simply falls over and dies when attempting to print > > > > pages on many major news outlets. After Mozilla crashes > > > > or locks up cold, I start up Netscape and print there. > > > > > >

Re: Sarge is trying to remove Netscape

2004-03-29 Thread Pigeon
n attempting to print > > > pages on many major news outlets. After Mozilla crashes > > > or locks up cold, I start up Netscape and print there. > > > > Have you considered Konqueror? > > I think his goal is to have something that works *better* than Mozil

Re: Sarge is trying to remove Netscape

2004-03-29 Thread Leo Spalteholz
o print > > > pages on many major news outlets. After Mozilla crashes > > > or locks up cold, I start up Netscape and print there. > > > > Have you considered Konqueror? > > I think his goal is to have something that works *better* than Mozilla, > not worse.

Re: Sarge is trying to remove Netscape

2004-03-29 Thread Marc Wilson
rashes > > or locks up cold, I start up Netscape and print there. > > Have you considered Konqueror? I think his goal is to have something that works *better* than Mozilla, not worse. ^_^ Mozilla's printing support is legendary for the problems it causes. XPrint mig

Re: Sarge is trying to remove Netscape

2004-03-29 Thread Paul Johnson
Dale Amon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The latest round of updates seems to be trying to > remove my netscape browser, which is much unappreciated. > > While the Mozilla family has many nice new features, > it simply falls over and dies when attempting to print > pages on

Re: Sarge is trying to remove Netscape

2004-03-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 08:53:23AM -0500, Chris Metzler wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:39:15 +0100 > Dale Amon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The latest round of updates seems to be trying to > > remove my netscape browser, which is much unappreciated. > > Presumab

Re: Sarge is trying to remove Netscape

2004-03-29 Thread Chris Metzler
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:39:15 +0100 Dale Amon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The latest round of updates seems to be trying to > remove my netscape browser, which is much unappreciated. Presumably you mean Netscape 4.77. It depends on old X library packages whose functionality is

Sarge is trying to remove Netscape

2004-03-29 Thread Dale Amon
The latest round of updates seems to be trying to remove my netscape browser, which is much unappreciated. While the Mozilla family has many nice new features, it simply falls over and dies when attempting to print pages on many major news outlets. After Mozilla crashes or locks up cold, I start

Re: Netscape segmentation fault

2004-02-29 Thread Jacob Anawalt
Marie Regine SAPIR wrote: Hello, My bank is driving me crazy... I can't get their online banking > system with any of the browsers I regularly use (galeon, opera, > mozilla). They absolutely want Netscape 4.7 (or IE, but that's > not really an option). What bank is this? What&

Re: Netscape 4.7x, unstable and XFree4.3

2004-02-28 Thread Doug Holland
On Friday 27 February 2004 11:49 am, Vineet Kumar wrote: > * Andreas Bach Aaen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040227 05:32]: > > I need this old outdated version of Netscape, as my homebanking > > requires it. > > Hi Andreas, > > Sorry, this is another post which does not answer

Re: Netscape 4.7x, unstable and XFree4.3

2004-02-28 Thread Greg Madden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 27 February 2004 04:29 am, Andreas Bach Aaen wrote: > Hi, > > I have sucessfully used Netscape Navigator 4.7x from stable in my > othervise unstable installation. After upgrading unstable to XFree4.3 > it removed netscape

Re: Netscape 4.7x, unstable and XFree4.3

2004-02-27 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Andreas Bach Aaen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040227 05:32]: > I need this old outdated version of Netscape, as my homebanking > requires it. Hi Andreas, Sorry, this is another post which does not answer your question. But IMO, this is as good a reason as any to switch banks. I've done

Re: Netscape 4.7x, unstable and XFree4.3

2004-02-27 Thread CW Harris
On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 02:29:02PM +0100, Andreas Bach Aaen wrote: > Hi, > > I have sucessfully used Netscape Navigator 4.7x from stable in my > othervise unstable installation. After upgrading unstable to XFree4.3 > it removed netscape as it couldn't provide the needed

Re: Netscape 4.7x, unstable and XFree4.3

2004-02-27 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 14:29, Andreas Bach Aaen wrote: > Hi, > > I have sucessfully used Netscape Navigator 4.7x from stable in my > othervise unstable installation. After upgrading unstable to XFree4.3 > it removed netscape as it couldn't provide the needed dependancies. &

Netscape 4.7x, unstable and XFree4.3

2004-02-27 Thread Andreas Bach Aaen
Hi, I have sucessfully used Netscape Navigator 4.7x from stable in my othervise unstable installation. After upgrading unstable to XFree4.3 it removed netscape as it couldn't provide the needed dependancies. Is there any way to solve this? I need this old outdated version of Netscape,

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-10 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 02:17:49AM +0200, Roberto Sanchez wrote: } --- Joerg Rossdeutscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: [...] } > When I fake my browserID with mozilla via Prefbar-extension, one of the } > lines above gives the faked ID, while the other one _always_ says } > "Mozilla". Tested j

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-10 Thread Roberto Sanchez
--- Joerg Rossdeutscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Am Mo, 2003-09-08 um 02.12 schrieb Roberto Sanchez: > > How else would they ID a browser? The site I have personally had problems > with > > (I've posted about it here a few times already) apparently identifies the > > browser with some rea

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-10 Thread Frank Gevaerts
ot;); > > > document.write(navigator.appVersion+""); > > > document.write(navigator.userAgent+""); > > > > > > > > > When I fake my browserID with mozilla via Prefbar-extension, one of the > > > lines above gives the faked ID, while the

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-10 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Jean-Michel besnard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030909 12:47]: > Hi, > > On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 09:00:28PM +0200, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Am So, 2003-09-07 um 23.44 schrieb Colin Watson: > > > On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 09:46:02PM +0200, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote:

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-10 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
tor.userAgent+""); > > > > > > When I fake my browserID with mozilla via Prefbar-extension, one of the > > lines above gives the faked ID, while the other one _always_ says > > "Mozilla". Tested just on a macintosh. > Netscape 4.x's code n

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-09 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 09:26:23 +0200, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 10:58:21AM +0200, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann > > wrote:> There are st

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-09 Thread Travis Crump
lt;br>"); When I fake my browserID with mozilla via Prefbar-extension, one of the lines above gives the faked ID, while the other one _always_ says "Mozilla". Tested just on a macintosh. Bye, Ratti Netscape 4.x's code name *is* Mozilla. That is where the name for Mozill

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 12:29:34PM -0700, Jean-Michel besnard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 09:00:28PM +0200, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: > > Am So, 2003-09-07 um 23.44 schrieb Colin Watson: > > > On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 09:46:02PM +0200, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: > > > > Am

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-09 Thread Kirk Strauser
useless "binary trash"? Am I wrong? That was the whole point: Netscape 4 has quite a few known vulnerabilities. It may very well be the case that a MITM could snoop a session from a Netscape 4 browser's broken SSL implementation. -- Kirk Strauser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 09:00:28PM +0200, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: > Am So, 2003-09-07 um 23.44 schrieb Colin Watson: > > On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 09:46:02PM +0200, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: > > > Am So, 2003-09-07 um 21.11 schrieb Mario Vukelic: > > > > You probably don't even get security fixe

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-09 Thread Jean-Michel besnard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi, On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 09:00:28PM +0200, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: > Hi, > > Am So, 2003-09-07 um 23.44 schrieb Colin Watson: > > On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 09:46:02PM +0200, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: > > > Am So, 2003-09-07 um 21.11 schrieb Mario Vukelic: > > > > You probably don't even get

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-09 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Am Mo, 2003-09-08 um 02.12 schrieb Roberto Sanchez: > How else would they ID a browser? The site I have personally had problems with > (I've posted about it here a few times already) apparently identifies the > browser with some really slick trick, since it goes out as hidden data in the > POST fo

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-09 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Hi, Am So, 2003-09-07 um 23.44 schrieb Colin Watson: > On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 09:46:02PM +0200, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: > > Am So, 2003-09-07 um 21.11 schrieb Mario Vukelic: > > > You probably don't even get security fixes fo NS 4 anymore! > > > > Uninteresting, since one would use NS4 only

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-09 Thread Moritz Moeller-Herrmann
Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 10:58:21AM +0200, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: >> There are still uses for NS4. I know of a proprietary java app, that >> works only with Java-1.1 and thus only with NS4 or IE. >> >> This is neede

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-08 Thread Roberto Sanchez
--- Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > > > > A lot of banks here in germany allow online banking for linux only > with > > > > > netscape 4. > > > > > > > > I've never seen one. > > > > > >

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ract as to why Debian should not package netscape anymore. manoj -- Kilroe hic erat! Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B4

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-08 Thread Greg Folkert
llow online banking for linux only with > > > > netscape 4. > > > > > > I've never seen one. > > > > Mine. :-) > > Mine too. Check out www.usalliance.org Then spoof the user-agent string. 'Tis child's play. -- greg, [EMAIL PROT

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-08 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 10:58:21AM +0200, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: > There are still uses for NS4. I know of a proprietary java app, that works > only with Java-1.1 and thus only with NS4 or IE. > > This is needed to access a law database at my

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-08 Thread Moritz Moeller-Herrmann
Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 01:09:46PM +0200, Alexander Mikhailian wrote: >> I recently upgraded to testing and found out that netscape 4 is missing >> in the list of packages. Where can I get a working version of netscape 4 >> for testing? > Nets

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Jerry Quinn
Joerg Rossdeutscher writes: > Am So, 2003-09-07 um 21.11 schrieb Mario Vukelic: > > On Son, 2003-09-07 at 21:05, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: > > > > > A lot of banks here in germany allow online banking for linux only with > > > netscape 4. > >

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Roberto Sanchez
> > > > > Try https://mypay.dfas.mil/ , where I access my payroll info. From > > > *nix it _only_ works in Netscape 4.x. I have gone around and around > > > for some time on this, but with Mozilla, Firebird, Epiphany, and > &

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Jose Mirles
o. From > > *nix it _only_ works in Netscape 4.x. I have gone around and around > > for some time on this, but with Mozilla, Firebird, Epiphany, and > > Galeon it IDs the browser as: > -snip

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Russell Shaw
Alexander Mikhailian wrote: I recently upgraded to testing and found out that netscape 4 is missing in the list of packages. Where can I get a working version of netscape 4 for testing? Netscape is based on mozilla, so install that instead. Mozilla has options to stop pop-up ads, but netscape has

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Roberto Sanchez
--- "Daniel B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > .. > > The number of websites that work in mozilla but fail in netscape 4 is > > about 10 to 1 ... > > Huh? > > The number of websites that work in Mozilla but fail in N

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Daniel B.
Bijan Soleymani wrote: > .. > The number of websites that work in mozilla but fail in netscape 4 is > about 10 to 1 ... Huh? The number of websites that work in Mozilla but fail in Netscape 4 is one measurement. What's the other one? (You need two things to be able to say the

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
?: > > > Try https://mypay.dfas.mil/ , where I access my payroll info. From > > *nix it_only_ works in Netscape 4.x. I have gone around and around > > for some time on this, but with Mozilla, Firebird, Epiphany, and > > Galeon it IDs the browser as: > > You want some p

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Roberto Sanchez
--- "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Some browsers (Konqueror, Opera) allow specifying an arbitrary > user-agent string, including several preconfigured strings to > impersonate other browsers. This works for the vast majority of > sites whose designers are stupi

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 11:47:31PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > IIRC lynx has rudimentary frames support. lynx-ssl supports SSL. lynx is sort of last resort. You want elinks or elinks-ssl. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :'

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 09:39:59PM +0200, Roberto Sanchez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > --- Bijan Soleymani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribi?: > Try https://mypay.dfas.mil/ , where I access my payroll info. From *nix it > _only_ works in Netscape 4.x. I have gone around and around f

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 01:09:46PM +0200, Alexander Mikhailian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I recently upgraded to testing and found out that netscape 4 is missing > in the list of packages. Where can I get a working version of netscape 4 > for testing? Noteing without repeating that NS

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Colin Watson
't need to hack me. They own everything I have... :-) Whoa, sure it's interesting. Consider a man-in-the-middle SSL attack: now somebody else owns everything you have. This is a real example, although I don't know if Netscape 4 has such vulnerabilities. IE was reported as having such

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Colin Watson
ch does both. (Hit shift-F to render frames.) > > It is impossible to maintain. Only netscape the company has the source > > and can fix actual problems with the program. If they give up on the > > program it's dead. This is one of the problems with proprietary > > sof

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Roberto Sanchez
--- Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > I do *not* have this problem bringing up that URL under both: > >Konqueror v3.1.3 >Mozilla v1.4-3 > > Of course, I do not have a logon, so I cannot test main program > functionality; but, I successfully browsed to FAQ, About, Cont

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Michael D Schleif
e number of websites that work in mozilla but fail in netscape 4 is > > about 10 to 1 in my experience. I haven't really seen any pages that > > work in netscape 4 but not in mozilla, but even if there is such a > > thing, I doubt that people are coding for netscape 4 any mor

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Son, 2003-09-07 at 21:46, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: > Mine. :-) Hm, where I live in D there's no shortage of banks to choose from. I need only personal stuff though, and obviously don't know you needs :) May I ask which braindead bank this is, so I can avoid them? > Uninteresting, since one

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Andreas Janssen
ell, first I ask myself: Why would anyone use Netscape 4? >> >> For some people who are used to it and won't change >> For some badly coded enterprise websites... >> >> > Numbers have arrived at 7.1 and there is Mozilla as a free >> > alternative and t

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread John Hasler
Roberto writes: > I can see that, but I was under the impression that Netscape > Communications actually released all the source code under the NPL. Is > this wrong? Did they only release part of it? They released all of the parts that they wrote. Unfortunately, they used some pr

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Am So, 2003-09-07 um 21.11 schrieb Mario Vukelic: > On Son, 2003-09-07 at 21:05, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: > > > A lot of banks here in germany allow online banking for linux only with > > netscape 4. > > I've never seen one. Mine. :-) Gnucash would run also,

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Roberto Sanchez
--- Bijan Soleymani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > For some people who are used to it and won't change > > For some badly coded enterprise websites... > > The number of websites that work in mozilla but fail in netscape 4 is > about 10 to 1 in my experience.

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Son, 2003-09-07 at 21:05, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: > A lot of banks here in germany allow online banking for linux only with > netscape 4. I've never seen one. If it happened to me, I'd take my business elsewhere and made sure they know why. You probably don't even get

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Hi, Am So, 2003-09-07 um 19.34 schrieb Paul Johnson: > On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 01:09:46PM +0200, Alexander Mikhailian wrote: > > I recently upgraded to testing and found out that netscape 4 is missing > > in the list of packages. Where can I get a working version of netscape 4

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 02:41:46PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > The number of websites that work in mozilla but fail in netscape 4 is > about 10 to 1 in my experience. I haven't really seen any pages that > work in netscape 4 but

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 07:48:02PM +0200, Christophe Courtois wrote: > Le Dimanche 7 Septembre 2003 17:51, Stefan Waidele jun. a d?clam? : > > Well, first I ask myself: Why would anyone use Netscape 4? > > For some people who are used to it and won't change > For some

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 07:48:02PM +0200, Christophe Courtois wrote: > Le Dimanche 7 Septembre 2003 17:51, Stefan Waidele jun. a d?clam? : > > Since not even the company that made it supports yesterdays browser, > > why should the 'next generation' of Debian? > > I thought one of the points of op

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 19:48:02 +0200, Christophe Courtois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Le Dimanche 7 Septembre 2003 17:51, Stefan Waidele jun. a déclamé : > > Well, first I ask myself: Why would anyone use Netscape 4? > > For some pe

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 07:48:02PM +0200, Christophe Courtois wrote: > I thought one of the points of open source [Ok, it is not open source, > but free] was that a project was never dead, and that you upgrade when > YOU want. Netscape isn't open-source, and isn't free. It

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Christophe Courtois
Le Dimanche 7 Septembre 2003 17:51, Stefan Waidele jun. a déclamé : > Well, first I ask myself: Why would anyone use Netscape 4? For some people who are used to it and won't change For some badly coded enterprise websites... > Numbers have arrived at 7.1 and there is Mozill

Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?

2003-09-07 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 01:09:46PM +0200, Alexander Mikhailian wrote: > I recently upgraded to testing and found out that netscape 4 is missing > in the list of packages. Where can I get a working version of netscape 4 > for testing? Nets

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