On Sat 29 Feb 2020 at 21:45:48 (-0500), John Kaufmann wrote:
> On 2020-02-29 20:20, David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 27 Feb 2020 at 17:13:26 (-0500), John Kaufmann wrote:
> > > On 2020-02-27 09:41, Lee wrote:
> > >
> > > [The free/non-free distinction] ... is well-explained, and in fuzzy
> > > prin
On Sb, 29 feb 20, 21:45:48, John Kaufmann wrote:
>
> I have to agree with that script: a Thinkpad without wifi could fairly
> be called a non-working system... which comes back to my two-part
> first question, about the philosophical/operational aspect of the
> "free" commitment:
> - Is it a c
On 2020-02-29 20:20, David Wright wrote:
On Thu 27 Feb 2020 at 17:13:26 (-0500), John Kaufmann wrote:
On 2020-02-27 09:41, Lee wrote:
[The free/non-free distinction] ... is well-explained, and in fuzzy principle I
like the explanation. In functional terms, it only became an issue for me when
On Thu 27 Feb 2020 at 17:13:26 (-0500), John Kaufmann wrote:
> On 2020-02-27 09:41, Lee wrote:
> > On 2/27/20, John Kaufmann wrote:
>
> > > ... I'm beginning to get a sense
> > > that debian.org has /way/ over-complicated the installation images.
> >
> > I think they don't do a good job of explai
On 2020-02-27 09:41, Lee wrote:
On 2/27/20, John Kaufmann wrote:
... I'm beginning to get a sense
that debian.org has /way/ over-complicated the installation images.
I think they don't do a good job of explaining things for newbies -
especially the implications of "free software only" (or wh
On 2020-02-27 03:46, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 27 feb 20, 02:03:56, John Kaufmann wrote:
Distribution directories:
[1]
cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/
[2]
cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmwa
On 2/27/20, John Kaufmann wrote:
> On 2020-02-26 22:49, Peter Ehlert wrote:
>> On 2/26/20 7:20 PM, Lee wrote:
>>> On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann wrote:
For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with:
(1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
(2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
and(3) f
On 2/27/20 12:46 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 27 feb 20, 02:03:56, John Kaufmann wrote:
On 2020-02-26 22:49, Peter Ehlert wrote:
On 2/26/20 7:20 PM, Lee wrote:
On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann wrote:
For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with:
(1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
(2) firmware
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 10:46:55 +0200
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> It might be a good idea to stop building the multiarch image in 2020.
> Most users should install amd64 anyway and those that *really* need
> i386 are likely able to find the correct image anyway.
On the other tentacle, some of us have
On Jo, 27 feb 20, 02:03:56, John Kaufmann wrote:
> On 2020-02-26 22:49, Peter Ehlert wrote:
> > On 2/26/20 7:20 PM, Lee wrote:
> > > On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann wrote:
> > > > For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with:
> > > > (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
> > > > (2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-ne
On 2020-02-26 23:34, Lee wrote:
On 2/26/20, Peter Ehlert wrote:
On 2/26/20 7:20 PM, Lee wrote:
On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann wrote:
For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with:
(1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
(2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
and (3) firmware-edu
On 2020-02-26 22:49, Peter Ehlert wrote:
On 2/26/20 7:20 PM, Lee wrote:
On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann wrote:
For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with:
(1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
(2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
and(3) firmware-edu-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso [just in case]
A. Dis
On 2020-02-26 22:20, Lee wrote:
On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann wrote:
For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with:
(1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
(2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
and (3) firmware-edu-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso [just in case]
A. Disk (1) begins without problem, th
On 2/26/20, Peter Ehlert wrote:
>
> On 2/26/20 7:20 PM, Lee wrote:
>> On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann wrote:
>>> For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with:
>>> (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
>>> (2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
>>> and (3) firmware-edu-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso [just in case]
On 2/26/20 7:20 PM, Lee wrote:
On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann wrote:
For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with:
(1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
(2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
and (3) firmware-edu-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso [just in case]
A. Disk (1) begins without problem, t
On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann wrote:
> For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with:
> (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
> (2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
> and (3) firmware-edu-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso [just in case]
>
> A. Disk (1) begins without problem, then stops for wifi firmware:
T
For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with:
(1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
(2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
and (3) firmware-edu-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso [just in case]
A. Disk (1) begins without problem, then stops for wifi firmware:
"Some of your hardware needs non-free
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